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Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY OF SEYCHELLES Thursday 9th March 2020 The Assembly met at 9am National Anthem Moment of Reflection Mr Speaker is the Chair MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Bonzour tou Manm e bonzour nou lodyans ankor enn fwa.

Mon annan plezir, lir en mesaz Larenn Elizabeth, Sef Commonwealth lo lokazyon Commonwealth Day ki ti yer.

E ki i en tradisyon dan Lasanble ki nou pas mesaz.


sorti kot Mesaz son Majesté i lir konmsa; “Over the coming week, as we celebrate the friendship, spirit of unity and achievements of the Commonwealth, we will have an opportunity to reflect on a time like no other.

Whilst experiences of the last year have been different across the Commonwealth, stirring examples of courage, commitment selfless dedication to duty have been every demonstrated Commonwealth nation and territory.
Notably by those and in working on the frontline, who have been delivering healthcare and other public services in their communities.

We have also encouragement remarkable developing vaccines and treatments.

advances taken from in new The testing times experienced by so many, have led to a deeper appreciation of the mutual support and spiritual sustenance we enjoy by being connected to others.
The need to maintain greater physical distance, or to live and work in isolation, has for many people across the Commonwealth, been an unusual experience.

largely In our everyday lives, we have had to become more accustomed to connecting and communicating via innovative technology, which has been new to some of us.
With conversations and communal gatherings, including meetings, Commonwealth enabling online, conducted people to stay in touch with friends, family, colleagues and counterparts, who they have not been able to meet in person.

Increasingly, we have to found enjoy such communication, as it that offers an immediacy ourselves able pg.

1 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 boundaries or transcends division, helping any sense of distance to disappear.
We have all continued to appreciate the support, breadth of experiences and knowledge that working together brings, and I hope we shall maintain this renewed sense of closeness and community.

Looking forward, relationships with others across the Commonwealth will remain important, as we strive to deliver a common future, that is sustainable and more secure, so that and neighborhoods in which we live, located, they are wherever become healthier and happier places for us all”.

End of message.

Mersi.


nations the E bann felisitasyon madanm pour lorganizasyon pour zot Lazournen Madanm.

Mersi.

aktivite, bann MINISTRY OF AFFAIRS INTERNAL (OFFICE THE MINISTER OF THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS) OF MR SPEAKER Prezan nou a pas dan Staz Lasanble, pou nou repran lo Appropriation Bill.

E avek sa nou ava envit, nou ava envit delegasyon Ministry Of Internal Affairs.

Bonzour tou bann zofisye.


Nou annan plezir pou annan avek nou Mr Errol Fonseka, Minis pou Internal Affairs, Mr Damien Thesee ankor Sekreter Prensipal pou Finans.

Madanm Tamatave Astride Deputy dan Conptroller Departman Internal Affairs.

General E osi nou annan pour sa peryod Colonel George Adeline Director Regional for Coordination and Operation Centre e madam Tassiana Labrosse Senior Accountant.

Avek sa, nou pe al pran Bill Ministry of Internal Affairs.
Ki lo paz 260 ziska 265 pou en Bidze R12milon 25mil.

E mon ava fer envit Minis pou lentrodiksyon son Bidze.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Mr Speaker e bonzour Mr Speaker.

Mr Honorable Leader of the Opposition.

Honorable the Government Leader of Business.

Tou Manm, Onorab e tou dimoun a lekout.

E zis avan, mon le konmanse le pran sa lokasyon pou wish to bann ladies en happy belated Woman’s Day!

E remersi zot pou zot bon travay ki zot pe fer dan nou pei.

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2 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Mr Speaker zis pou komanse mon a donn en pti pe background lo nou Bidze.

i Minister oparavan ti son Bidze ti mars ansanm ek DM, ek Designated Minister.

Internal Affairs E la lefe ki Minister Internal Affairs in vin li tousel, in ganny, son son Bidze secretariat in ganny batir si oule lo en legzanp from the Employment.

Minister Employment ki ti sa template ki'n ganny servi pou fer sa present secretariat, ki mon pe travay avek la.
Of Nou Bidze i osi enkli Bidze pou bann Regional Centre.

The Regional Centres savedir, i Secretariat Minister Internal Affairs.

I The Regional Centre, Regional Coordinating Centre, the NISCC, e osi REFLECS ki vin anba mon Bidze.

An total nou Bidze pou sa lannen i 12milyon 25.23 e dan ‘wages and sa Bidze nou salaries’ i 6milyon 788.68mil e nou ‘goods and services’ i zis 5milyon 236.56mil Zis pou donn en pti breakdown lo enn de pwen.
Nou ava komans lo nou ‘goods and services.’ Si zot get lo ‘office expenses,’ zot pou vwar en decease dan sa Bidze.

Me parey mon'n eksplik zot pli boner, sa decrease i relatif ek Minister DM ek Bidze, Bidze lannen pase, Bidze Designated Minister.

So sa i pa en decrease.

decrease Minister Internal Affairs.

I baze template lo sa Minister Designated Minister.

legzanp, sa DM, Sa decrease osi i lefe ki nou Minister i, i en pti pe pli pti la.

Nou’n redwir osi dan nou kou elektrisite, par 394mil.
E lot item ki of interest pou zot, nou ‘transportation and travel’ cost, i en increase of 63,789.

E sa i enkli lefe ki nou annan osi en rediksyon an konparab, an konparezon avan – me 136mil e en pe savings osi ki nou ti annan dan nou bann ‘vehicle cost.’ Sa savings ki ou war, nou ti annan dan vehicle cost i baze lo the previous year as well.

hire dan Nou annan sa annan ‘transportation and travel cost’ nou charges increase, e sa zis en provizyon zis an ka i annan okenn breakdown ki nou bezwen.
E sa, sa provizyon in ganny fer a R50mil.

Si lo ‘maintenance’ nou pou war en increase of 93,290.

Sa en provizyon ki'n fer dan Bidze, pou maintenance pou bann bodies.

regional maritime desann nou pg.

3 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Savedir i ase osi REFLECS ek NISCC.

E sa depans, sa increase i pou, i pou bann normal repairs, maintenance, motor vehicles, furniture si zot bezwen, IT equipment e maintenance dan IT osi.
Ler nou desann dan ‘other uses of goods and services’ ou pou war en increase of 155,589.

Sa en, osi en increase akoz nou pe konpar li ek sa previous Ministry ki sa Bidze in ganny fer against.

Ladan i annan security enforcement of 102 and increase by 102thousand pou security the Minister and other for allowance pour, by with an increase pour 60mil entitlement pou security ki lapolis i provide.

capital outlays’, en decrease of 48,121, sa i ariv lo en pou rediksyon Secretariat Minister.
annan ‘minor 5mil Dan nou E osi baze lo en rediksyon de 43mil, akoz nou pa ti ganny sa dan Bidze pour provizyon pou recruit ;fer new recruitment dan bann Regional nou Maritime Bodies.

Mr Speaker, sa zis en brief overview lo nou Bidze pou Minister of Internal Affairs.

E avek sa mon a les bann Manm Onorab poz zot kestyon.

Mr Speaker, mersi pou sa.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Minis.

En pti koreksyon, premye item ki nou pe pran i Office of the Minister of the Internal Affairs.

PS, koriz mwan.

I korek sa en?


Se sa ki lo paz 260 ziska 265 pou en Bidze R12milyon e 25mil.

E alor, e i annan lezot item ki lo ki fer par, dan Bidze Ministry of Internal Affairs.

Alor PS silvouple ou a gid nou, ki nou reste lo sa head pou sa peryod e si i annan lot kestyon ki monte ou a diriz bann Manm pou rezerve pou la.

Ok, nou a komans ek kestyon bann Manm.

En pti moman mon a zis pran enn de non silvouple.

Gard anler silvouple kote isi please.

Wi, wi sa de avan mon'n gannyen.


Kote laba mon pe soz, ok. lanmen Wi ok, mon annan Onorab Labonte, Cosgrow, Uranie, Vidot, Mondon, Henrie William, Gabriel, Ghislain, Loze, Gill ek Pillay la pou le moman.

Ok sa bann ki mon'n pran note.

Mon'n lir li dan lord ki mon'n ekrir, pa neseserman dan lord ki mon pou apel zot.

Ok. Tre byen.

Nou a pare pou komans avek Onorab Cosgrow.

Mersi.

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4 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Chairman, HON WALLACE COSGROW Mersi Mr Chairman.
Bonzour bonzour Mr Minister.

Bonzour tou bann lezot zofisye ki la.

Bonzour tou Manm Onorab e tou Manm piblik ki pe ekoute.

i Minis mon kestyon comme swivan;- I annan sa bann regional bodies la ki annan en ta acronyms.

RCOC, REFLECS 3, NISCC.

Eski ou kapab eksplik Lasanble e piblik an zeneral, en pti pe ki fonksyon sa bann lorganizasyon i fer?

Mon, petet pa neseserman al dan detay, fonksyon sa bann me ki lorganizasyon i fer?
Eski zot pe osi ganny i Bidze finansman avek bann lorganizasyon enternasyonal?

Kote sa feature?

Si wi kote sa i feature dan Bidze?

E konbyen apepre staff nou pe koze, akoz mon war, dan challenges avek ou bann strategic priorities zot pe koz lo Mon more watchstanders.

bann sa krwar lorganizasyon.

So, en pti pe Minis dan sa laliny.

Mersi bokou.

dan MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Minis wi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab Cosgrow.

En bon kestyon ki ou pe demande.


Akoz sa ponnyen diferan groupings la par ler i anmenn konfizyon.

E i pran en pti pe letan osi pou konpran mannyer zot marse.

REFLECS 3, i historically i ti sa premye coordination group ki Angle ti siport nou dan letan piratri.

E sa ti ganny, sanmenm sa devlopman ki nou’n ganny sa building laba.

E sa bann lasistans ki nou ti gannyen e osi bann led ki nou ti gannyen mannyer nou pou bezwen prosecute piratri ek tou sa bann sityasyon, ki ti egziste avan.
La lefe ki piratri in tonm en pe, sa REFLECS 3 i son manda under UNODP ki nou ganny UNODP support.

In vin plis lo maritime safety and security.

Me i annan en training element ladan, ki zot run bann courses osi.

Pa zis pou, pou Sesel, me pou bann interested parties dan larezyon.

Sa bann, dan nou bann rezyon.

E en bon benefis ek sa i funding pa i pa dan mon Bidze.

Me selman funding i la through UNODC ki petet Minister Finans i kapab eksplike e enkli zot annan en budget ki zot hold ladan.
E nou kapab tap in sa budget tanzantan, menm pou fer serten loperasyon ki nou pg.

5 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 bezwen fer.

So, i annan en pe lavantaz pou Sesel la E dezyenmman, the NISCC i sa body ki coordinate, (ki pa coordinate), ki pas lenformasyon ki nou gannyen ki share ek tou bann lezot entities, menm isi Sesel osi.

Dan nou bann lezot intelligence section i sa, sa body ki share sa bann lenformasyon.
Bann menas ki nou dekouver pa zis in terms of narcotics, be fishing dan nou osi rezyon.

bann sa Tou lenformasyon i ganny anmase e shared through NISCC.

ilegal Colonel Adeline, i a donn ou en pti pe pli bon résumé.

Li i ansarz nou Regional Coordinating Centre.

Me sa i Coordinating Centre coordinate lezot regional bodies, e i annan i en, i en organizasyon ki konpri lezot Nasyon osi dan larezyon.

ek bann li, E pou lenstan sa director i en Seselwa ki happened to be Colonel Adeline.
E mon ti a kontan zis pas ek Colonel Adeline reinforce enn de sa bann detay lo la.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

petet ou kapab MR SPEAKER Mersi Minis.

Yes, Colonel ou le azoute.

COLONEL GEORGE ADELINE Mersi Mr Speaker.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

Leader Lopozisyon.

Leader of Government Business lezot Manm Onorab.

Monsieur, mesdames, lapres e tou bann dimoun ki pe ekoute, en gran I tre bonzour a zot tou.
enportan pou mwan avan ler mon mon konmans, deliberasyon pou mwan eksplik zot pli a profon sa kestyon ki'n ganny demande.

Mon pou bezwen remersi Bondye ki'n aport la sazes a nou tou, ce matin la pou nou rasanble, pou nou kapab delibre, fer deliberasyon lo en keksoz ki trez enportan.

Nou dir “Thank you Jesus”.

Donk mon pou ranforsi sa ki Minister in dir.

Pou mwan donn bann Manm Onorab en bon apersi lo sa trwa sant.

Minister in anmenn en bon insight lo la.

Me tout fason mon a ranforsi en pe.


In byen eksplik zot.

An tou ka i annan trwa sant dan sa domenn ki anba en sel twa me selman lobzektif sakenn i annan pou li.

Premyerman nou'n koz lo REFLECS, annan i dezyenmman NISCC, apre trwazyenmman mon pou koz li RCOC.

REFLECS Minister in byen eksplike.

E son funding li menm lo nivo li, i ganny en pe pg.

6 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 administratif par Gouvernman Seselwa.
E pou son bann depans operasyonnel, si i annan bann capacity building ki pe vin ganny fer Sesel, i ganny peye 100poursan par UNODC.

UNODC i siport capacity building dan larezyon an term, pour ranforsi kapasite bann teknisyen i kapab lo nivo Lalwa i kapab lo nivo, bann dimoun ki al fer lentervansyon lo bann trafik ilegal an mer.

E parwa ou pou vwar osi bann etranze i ganny envite isi Sesel.

Letan lokazyon ti permet pou zot osi vin partisip dan sa bann training.
Sa Se pou se la, ki dir li en sant rezyonal akoz i pa fer training zis pou Seselwa, me i fer training lo nivo rezyonal.

Ki parfwa ou pou vwar bann partisipan i etranze, i melanze.

i enn domenn ki REFLECS 3 i antreprann.

E zot pe antreprann en travay osi pou zot kapab vin en Sant Lekselans dan larezyon.

Ki va, ki ava atir lezot Nasyon pou vin train Sesel e ki sa bann larzan ki bann Nasyon i servi isi Sesel i a reste dan nou lekonomi.
Ensi ki parey UNODC pe kontribye, sa bann larzan i reste dan lekonomi Sesel.

Me parfwa zot pou vwar kekfwa, UNODC ganny en pti retar pou li ranbours sa larzan ki nou depanse, e i annan en pti pe difikilte la.

Me selman zot komikman i la a lafen dizour.

Sak lannen zot regle tou bann kont ki zot in dwa Gouvernman Sesel.

Sa i enn.

Dezyenmman mon pou tous lo NISCC.


NISCC li menm i ganny konsevwar dan en sans pou kapab anmenn tou bann avek konsernen lazans maritime security dan larezyon, o nivo Sesel ansanm anba en sel twa, pou nou kapab achieve en goal ki vreman komen antre nou tou.

I annan plizyer lazans ki’n komet zot lekor pou kapab etablir sa NISCC.

NISCC i annan trwa rol zeneral.

Mon pe koz lo non Direkter NISCC la, donk i annan trwa rol zeneral ki sipoze fer.
I annan en komikman enternasyonal ki i bezwen etablir en coastal radio station, sa en en lobligasyon anba IMO.

komikman i Ki sa ki bann pei Code share, i bezwen annan en coastal radio station pou li kapab kominik avek bann bato ki traverse dan larezyon.

Ou konnen i annan plizyer milye bato ki travers larezyon.

Ki pas atraver nou teritwar, pg.

7 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 toulezour, e i enportan nou kapab kominik avek zot.
Kominikasyon lo nivo dizon sityasyon meteo, si i annan en danze abor, si i bezwen fer evakyasyon.

Tou sa bann keksoz i ganny kominike avek, en koz, sa.

Avek en bato ki pe pas, avek en pei kotyer, ki pli pros avek li.

Ki ou sipoze kapab kaptir sa bann lenformasyon an ka i annan en detres abor.

E sa i enn.
E sa i enn.

E malerezman kekfwa nou'n koz sa dan plizyer repriz isi dan Lasanble konsernan pou nou kapab etablir sa radyo, lo nivo Nasyonal, pou nou kapab kominike e servi lemonn ki pe servi delo sale dan larezyon.

Me nou pa'n kapab met tou bann bout ansanm, pou ganny sa finansman neseser.

Pou kapab aste sa radyo.

Tout fason nou pou bezwen kontinyen, ki sak bann antite ki form parti sa, mon kapab nonm zot.
I annan SMSA, ki form parti NISCC, i annan lapolis, i annan SPDF, i annan SCAA, Maritime Safety Authority, i annan Por i annan SFA.

Tousala in vin ansanm pou nou kapab fer sir poudir maritime security, i ganny fer.

E i ganny kordinen dan nou teritwar ki konsernen.

E nou annan de teritwar.

Nou annan teritwar aeryen e apre nou annan teritwar maritim.

Ki enportan ki nou annan kontrol lo la.

Sa i enn travay NISCC.


Son dezyenm travay se etablir i JRCC - Joint Rescue Coordinating Centre pou kapab sov bann dimoun an mer, kan i neseser.

E i sipoze annan dan sak pei sa osi i en lobligasyon.

Pou sak pei annan sa sant.

Me si ou napa sa radyo ki mon pe dir ki mannyer ou pou kapab koze, avek ouswa anmas sinyal detres.

Se pou sa rezon ki i enportan ki nou ganny sa radyo, pou nou kapab fer sa dezyenm latas.

Pou nou kapab kordin en loperasyon search and rescue an mer kan i neseser.
tou bann Si ariv en major oil spill an mer, ki mannyer nou pou koze?

Avek lazans ki konsernen sa osi JRCC pou zwe en rol ladan, pou sa sant, sa landrwa ki pou kordin tousala, i apel en JRCC.

i annan, E trwazyenm fonksyon ki se pou NISCC anmas plizoumwen lenformasyon, fuse li e partaz avek bann dimoun ki neseser.

MR SPEAKER Eskiz mwan en moman Colonel, panel silvouple.

Mon a remind zot, bezwen al en pe pli vit avek pg.


8 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 bann kestyon pou reponn li en pe pli direk.

Sansan nou pou run out of time.

Mersi.

Wi Colonel.

COLONEL GEORGE ADELINE Wi.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

Trwazyenmman i annan RCOC.

RCOC i en, en departman pa en departman, en lorganizasyon ki met ansanm tou bann Nasyon dan larezyon.

I annan 7 Nasyon ki form parti i annan bann pei la CEO, apre i annan Kenya, i annan Djibouti ki form parti.
E i kouver tou bann EEZ, tou bann pei pou nou kapab fer maritime security ladan.

E prezan Sesel li in pare pou li host sa sant isi Sesel.

E i annan bann lobligasyon se in pour se la ki Minister anmenn sa Bidze, pou lo administratif.

mannyer E administratif i pa sifi, ki mannyer loperasyon i ganny finanse.

ki son Lo nivo RCOC, finansman i ganny finanse par Linyon Eropeen, ki met akote i annan €3.5milyon pou partaz ant tou sa bann pei ki mon’n mansyonnen la.

E Sesel in ganny son porsyon i €650mil.


Sa i pou operational cost ki pa form parti sa Bidze ki la.

Pou osi annan en lensidan ki arive lo nivo, nou vwar lo en lanpler rezyonal, nou kapab otorize pou deblok sa larzan pou al fer sa bann loperasyon dan benefis, nou pei Manm.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Colonel.

Onorab Arissol ou ti le fer en pwen a se moman la.

Wi.

HON SANDY ARISSOL Yes, Mr Speaker.


Bonzour mon ti anvi zis ganny en pti pwen klarifikasyon, parske mon’n tann Minis koz lo NISCC e mon tann ankor NISCC.

Mon anvi demande eski NISCC son Bidze i pe vin anba sa ki la, oubyen i pou vin en antite apar?

Mon ti a kontan konnen akoz mwan mon annan kestyon lo NISCC.

Mon ti ava kontan ganny klarifikasyon silvouple, mon pa'n lev mon lanmen.

sa MR SPEAKER Eski la i le moman pou konsider Bidze NISCC?

Minis, wi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mr Speaker.


Sa NISCC i ladan, i dan tou maritime borders.

In ganny separe la ou pou vwar li.

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9 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 En moman.

PS wi.

PS DAMIEN THESEE Mersi Mr Chair.

Bonzour.

Si nou get lo paz 260 PPB statements.

Nou pou vwar sa budget summary ki nou apel Office of The Internal Affairs Minister i annan li de progranm.

Premye progranm P1 is ‘Minister’s support services.’ Savedir Minister’s Secretariat.
Apre P2 is the Regional Bodies.

Maritime Security Savedir tou le trwa sa bann lazans la, ki zot in fer RCOC, REFLECS 3 avek NISCC i tonm dan P2.

Ok, Mersi.

MR SPEAKER I tonm anba sa item la?

Mersi ok. Wi, ok mon ava azout ou non.

Mersi, nou a kontinyen avek Onorab Labonte.

Mr HON ANDY LABONTE Bonzour Chairman.

Bonzour Minister.

Bonzour PS avek delegasyon.

Bon, mon’n annan zis en pti leklersisman.


I baze lo ‘major achievement avek ou current challenges.’ Premye bullet dan ou i dir ‘major achievement’ ‘‘Regional Centre for Operational Coordination full operational capability with the nine recruitment watchstanders and achieve of international liaison officers for the signatory members state.
‘‘ Apre kot ou ‘current challenges’ ou dir ‘‘need to recruit watchstanders to have an run operation on 24/7 operation basis.’’ overage team to Petet si ou kapab eksplik sa en pe, akoz anler ou'n dir en keksoz apre kot son challenge mon vwar en lot keksoz.

Petet ou kapab eksplik sa pou mwan?

Petet mwan ki pa pe byen konpran li.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Panel, wi lekel pou reponn?

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Onorab, mersi pou sa kestyon.

An tou le ka sa bann ki nou ti demande nou pa'n gannyen.
So lenstan nou basically, pou annan zis set.

E nou bezwen apepre nef.

Menm lot alokasyon pour, sa i zis pou nou Regional Centre be pou lo NISCC, osi watchstanders an se moman.

i annan en i very thin So nou pa'n gannyen Bidze pour watchstanders.

Nou bezwen obviously travay ek sa ki nou annan pou lenstan.

MR SPEAKER Wi Onorab.

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10 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 HON ANDY LABONTE En pti pwen klarifikasyon Minister.

Dir mwan me sa sant i annan sitan kantite letan sa.
Ou le dir mwan pou tou sa peryod letan zot pa ankor kapab fer li operational ou kwa?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Minis.

So MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Wi, it is operational.

Me the son maksimonm, optimum number of dimoun i pa la.

Selman i still pe marse.

E i annan lezot fonksyon osi ki Sa bann sant ki parey nou'n eksplike i fer.

totally in operational, the optimum number pou ganny ou bann shift.

So ariv basically, sityasyon ki dimoun i bezwen double shift en pti gin.
So this is the situation, i pa unoperational, it’s very operational.

selman i pa i E la pour sa detrwa semenn, nou pe osi regard lezot groupman ki avan mon krwar ki'n arive nou pa'n tro maximize son benefit.

In la, in dormant en pti gin, be i en annan en kantite louvraz ki pou lenstan nou pe travay lo la.

Pou redonn li son valer ki i bezwen.

So mon petet mon dakor ek ou ki , i annan en moman ki i pa ti tro as active as it could have been.
I ti en pti pe, la me selman i ti enn pti pe dekale ansanm, as oppose pou getting sa, sa diferan bodies pou travay lo son … Apre servi bann synergies parmi sa, trwa bodies la.

Zot ti en pti pe, sakenn pou li.

La nou pe met li en pti pe pli ansanm.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Terminen Onorab Labonte.

Silvouple.

pti HON ANDY LABONTE Dernyen klarifikasyon Minister.
Kot ou ‘’strategic priorities’ mon vwar ou'n met ‘’achieve operational capability, ‘ki vedir dan sa Bidze i annan finansman ki'n ganny mete pou fer sa sant vin fully operational?

Mersi.

full MR SPEAKER Minis wi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Sorry ou'n demann mwan si.

Redemann mwan sa kestyon ankor en kou?

HON ANDY LABONTE Minister, dan ‘strategic priorities’ mon’n vwar Yes, pg.

11 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 ou'n met achieve full operational capability.
I vedir dan sa Bidze aktyel i annan finansman ki'n ganny mete pou fer sa sant vin fully operational?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Thank you.

Me selman si ou get sa, sa ‘strategic priorities ‘i pou 2021 ziske 2023.

So it's being spread.

Ok i pa pou sa i pou lannen only.

I pou, 2003. ziske planifikasyon Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Uranie.

HON ROCKY URANIE ek Mersi Mr Chair.

Bonzour Minis ou delegasyon.

Bonzour tou koleg Onorab.

Bonzour tou Digwa a lekout.


Enn mon kestyon Onorab Labonte in pran, akoz mon osi en annan mon pe klarifikasyon la.

Me Mr lo Speaker, eski Minis ti kapab eksplik mwan e dimoun an deor ki bann watchstanders?

savedir sa ti E ki kriter ki ganny servi pour selekte zot sa bann watchstanders?

E apre mon vwar dan programme 2 pli presizeman sub- bann programme kot Prezidan pe dir fer koupe.

Nou vwar anba 2.1,2.3,2.4 kot bann other allowances i annan landrwa kot i gran logmantasyon.
annan bann I annan menm landrwa kot i annan plis ki, en demi milyon logmantasyon.

Eski Minis i kapab eksplik nou en pti pe, lo la?

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Minis.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab.

Mon a reponn ou criteria.

Criteria pou bann watchstanders, i mon kapab fer ou annan son lalis.

Son job description konmsi i quite long.

E sa mon kapab fer.

Mon’n lot, ou dezyenm Akoz, mank ou kestyon apre sa.

silvouple ou kapab repete?

MR SPEAKER I lo allowances, Minis.


Increase dan Korek, Onorab?

allowances.

HON ROCKY URANIE I le mon redemann sa kestyon lo ‘other allowances.’ Ok, lo programme 2, pli presizeman bann sub-programme 2.1,2.3,2.4 kot nou vwar dan ‘other allowances,’ i annan bann logmantasyon e menm i pg.

12 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 annan ki plis ki en demi milyon logmantasyon.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Wi, PS Thesee i a pran adrese pou le moman.

PS DAMIEN THESEE Mersi Mr Chair.


En sey klarifikasyon mon pe konpran sa 2.1,2.3,2.4 ou kapab refer lo paz please?

HON ROCKY URANIE I lo sa breakdown pour sak sa bann programme la.

Lo latab Office of The Internal Affairs Minister programme 1.

Apre i annan programme 2 kot.

Governance Management and Administration.

Si mon MR SPEAKER Onorab Lemiel oule …?

Wi PS?

redwir par 592.

So i pou annan bann landrwa ki ou pou annan bann reallocation ki ou pe get sa I annan serten line reallocation ki'n ganny fer.
item.

Solman an zeneral napa logmantasyon dan Bidze an zeneral.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Uranie nou kapab move on?

Ou’n ok, ou a regarde?

Si ou bezwen re eklersi ou a kapab apre.

Onorab Mondon.

HON TERENCE MONDON Mersi Mr Chairman.

Bonzour Minis avek ou delegasyon.

Mon kestyon zisteman i la lo sa bann detay ki'n nou'n gannyen separe.

La nou pe koz sa bann sub-programme 22,23,24 pou sa bann antite ki zot in koz lo la pli boner.

PS DAMIEN THESEE Mersi Mr Chair.


An zeneral napa logmantasyon dan Bidze Internal Affairs Minister.

Si nou get Bidze 2020 ti 15.7milyon, pou 2021 Bidze in redwir pou vin 12milyon.

The bulk of reduction 3milyon.

I dan saler.

akoz parey Minis in eksplike, most staff ki ti dan DM portfolyo in bouze.

I pa anba Minister of Internal Affairs konmela.

‘goods dan and services’ an zeneral, Bidze in E I annan, malgre lo, ler nou pe get bann basic salary.

Parey zot, si nou pou pran parey pou sub-programme 22.
Son basic salary ok i reste parey.

Me selman son ‘other allowance’, i sorti 17mil pou vin 163mil.

Ki reprezant en gran zot other logmantasyon allowances.

lo E sa reflekte dan, lot sa de lezot antite sub-programme 23 ‘other avek 24, kot zot pg.

13 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 allowances’ in mont dan en fason tre signifikan.

Si nou ti kapab ganny en leksplikasyon, akoz sa gran logmantasyon?

Apre ki kantite dimoun ki pe travay anba sa bann antite separeman?
lot kestyon se Sa i mon premye kestyon e mon i transpor.

Si ou konsernan kapab dir nou, ki kantite transpor ki a dispozisyon sa bann antite?

Akoz mon osi vwar ki annan en provizyon pour hired vehicles.

Si ou kapab eksplik mwan akoz sa provizyon in ganny fer?

E kantite transpor zot annan anba, pou sak sa bann antite pou zot loperasyon?

Mersi Mr Chair.

fer MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab, pou ou kestyon.

Lo kestyon transpor zot annan trwa transpor laba.


E napa gran, gran, gran, gran sort of, louvraz ki ou bezwen bouz dimoun apard from picking sa bann staff pou bann shift, ki akoz sa sant i travay 24 lo 24.

So, this is mainly the issue of the transport.

Lo allowances, zis en moman, mon anvi get en pti kou ki bor, ki egzakteman laliny ou pe gete ki paz ou pe dir mwan?

MR SPEAKER Wi Onorab.

HON TERENCE MONDON Yes, Mr Chairman.

Par egzanp letan nou pe get sa, sa paz kot i donn tou bann detay.
Anba zot sub-programme parey zot pou pran programme 22.

Zot other allowance i sorti 17mil, pou vin 163mil.

Ler ou pou pran sub-programme 23.

Zot other allowances i sorti 38mil pou vin 600mil.

E sub-programme 24 zot other allowances i sorti 60mil, pou vin 315mil.

Aprezan mon ti anvi konnen, akoz sa gran logmantasyon dan allowances?

E konbyen travayer pe travay kot sa bann, sak antite?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Lekel ki pou reponn, panel?

Madanm Labrosse.

Mersi wi.


ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASSIANA LABROSSE Bonzour, mersi Mr Chair.

Mersi Onorab pou ou kestyon.

Ou pe.

Bonzour tou dimoun.

Ou pe koz lo pour programme 4 ou?

Ou pe dir in monte?

Allowance in monte akoz i annan, nou pey i annan allowance, saler pg.

14 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Mr Bibi ki nou pey li i annan en allowance ki nou bezwen pey li.

Tou le mwan i tonm anba i son basic pay.


I ganny peye i anba kot kordgard, kot travay.Be son en allowance, inducement allowance avek en transportation allowance ki nou bezwen pey li tou le mwan.

prezan i annan MR SPEAKER Wi, panel i annan repons pou son lezot kestyon.

ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASSIANA LABROSSE Lot kestyon ki allowance ki ou dir in monte?

2.2, li osi son allowance in monte kot NISCC.

I annan Colonel Benoiton ki nou bezwen pey li son allowance, apre si ou gete allowance in monte.
Akoz avan nou'n zis re klasifye li.

Akoz avan sa larzan la i ti tonm anba en lot allowance, ki ler nou ti bezwen pey zot la.

sa tir Nou'n bezwen fer virement pou larzan anba allowance, anba sa lot Code.

Nou bezwen, met li anba son Code respektif.

Si ou gete an realite la, mon pa pe vwar li in monte, Akoz si ou get dan bann lezot allowance la, in desann zis nou'n re klasifye li.

MR SPEAKER Ok. Onorab Mondon ou …?

HON TERENCE MONDON Mr Chairman.

Mersi pou ou pasyans.


Be selman pou mwan i still, i pa tro kler.

Petet zis kapab dir mwan ler ou pe koz mwan Mr Benoiton prezan, dir mwan petet konbyen sa dimoun laba pe gannyen son saler avek son basic ki for provizyon?

Sanmenm sa mon ti mon anvi konnen konbyen dimoun ki pe travay anba sa antite?

Ler mon pou kapab, mezir li avek sa kantite allowance ki zot pe fer provizyon pou mwan ganny en nide konbyen, bann dimoun pe gannyen laba?

Petet si ou ti kapab al en pti pe pou eklersi mwan.

Mersi.
Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi, eski panel i annan repons?

Madanm Labrosse, wi.

ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASSIANA LABROSSE Mersi pou ou kestyon.

Mon napa sa lenformasyon la avek mwan.

Ki kantite dimoun ki annan anba sa, anba NISCC, ki zot saler.

Apre ki bann allowance.

Me selman mon kapab provide ou apre pli tar.

Mersi.

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15 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel zot annan okenn keksoz pou azoute?

Non, oubyen nou a move on?

Fini, ok. Nou ava al kot Onorab Gabriel.


HON CONRAD GABRIEL Mersi Mr Speaker, Mr Chair.

Bonzour panel, bonzour tou dimoun a lekout.

Premyerman, Minister, ti a kontan konnen mon konbyen zofisye larme, ki ganny segonde dan sa bann sant espesyalman NISCC?

Apre ou a donn nou zot post title, si i posib?

Dezyenmman, UNODC i fund bann training normalman, eski Minis i kapab dir nou fer i ganny kalite depans pandan sa bann training?

E konbyen i kout nou pei an zeneral par an, pou fer sa bann training?
MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel lekel pou reponn?

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab, NISCC i annan Lieutenant Colonel Benoiton ki la.

E se tou dimoun sorti dan larme, ki mon konnen.

MR SPEAKER So, enn wi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Ok mon fek ganny dir i annan kat subordinates to Benoiton ki also military.

Just a moment mon ava clarify zot ran en pti kou?

MR SPEAKER Colonel Adeline, i kapab reponn si i annan plis lenformasyon.

COLONEL GEORGE ADELINE I annan Mersi Mr Chair.

Lieutenant Colonel Benoiton.


Apre bann subordinates, i annan Kaporal ziskan Mazor.

Mersi Mr Chair.

annan i MR SPEAKER Tre byen.

I annan son lot kestyon lo training par UNODC.

MR SPEAKER Yes, Mr Speaker lot ou lot kestyon lo training by UNODC.

Tou peyman ki nou fer lo locally nou ganny training refunded.

So, napa okenn kou lo Gouvernman Sesel.

UNODC i refund ou, tou bann, tou bann training cost.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER E byen mersi.

Onorab Henrie.

HON GERVAIS HENRIE Mersi Mr Chair.

Bonzour tou dimoun.
Bonzour tou dimoun.

Mr Chair mon plito pg.

16 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 annan en komanter e si panel i le response, mon ti ava apresye.

Akoz Internal Affairs letan mon pe get li la dan sa budget document ki nou'n ganny Konmsi with.

provided ofisyelman, prezan ki Internal Affairs i egziste as a Ministry.

in Akoz avan, parey Minis eksplike.

I ti anba Designated Minister Secretariat e i pa ti en antite statik ki ti la.
So aprezan mon komanter i se ki, mon ti ava apresye zot manda si i ganny redefinir pou li vreman reflekte.

Akoz la mon vwar i annan en, en over emphasis over maritime security.

Maybe mwan ki pe mal konpran.

Me mon osi vwar poudir kestyon public security, pou zesyon bann zafer dirzans dan pei, DRDM mon pa konnen kote i tonbe.

Civil Status, Imigrasyon, konmsi dan zot manda.


Mon krwar for the next budget, i bezwen reflekte ki ou koman sa Secretariat ou annan en lizye lo ki pe pase dan tou sa bann antite pou asire parey ou'n dir nou, ki person pa travay operate in silos.

Ouswa E koman en pei nou annan kontrol, lo sa bann.

Lo tou sa bann antite pou asir effectiveness e pou anmenn sa sanzman, sanzman reel ki nou bann dimoun in elekte pour, in vote pou fer arive.

Sa i mon premye komanter.


zot Dezyenmman dan ‘current challenges’ mon vwar, pwen 2 i met zot annan, zot napa ase dedicated space pou training avek akomodasyon.

Mon sizesyon nou en pti pei, annou regarde kote nou kapab get lezot resours.

Par egzanp letan nou pe koz Coast Guard.

Be si nou annan en keksoz spesifik.

Eski Coast Guard pa kapab ed nou.

Ouswa laba Pointe Larue kot zot ti pe al met bann dimoun COVID.

Pa kapab ganny servi?


Konmsi how do we tap into existing infrastructure, ki nou pa bezwen fer depans imedya?

Sa i mon de komanter.

Mersi Mr Chair.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Minis.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Mr Speaker.

Mersi Onorab.

Wi, historically parey ou'n, mon'n eksplike boner natirelman DM son Secretariat ti ase gran.

E basically bann louvraz Internal Affairs ti ganny absorb dan tousala.

La pour mannyer i pg.


17 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Internal Affairs ete secretariat li tousel.

i en Me kanmenm ou'n dir ki i paret nou pe koz bokou lo maritime enforcement.

Akoz nou'n komans ek regional bodies.

Ozordi ou pou vwar mwan, nou annan Imigrasyon pou koz lo la.

Ziske demen osi, by the way ou pou vwar ziske demen osi.

So nou annan Imigrasyon, nou annan Lapolis, nou annan SFRSA, nou annan DRDM, nou annan Prison.

Tousala i vin anba Internal Affairs.


Coastguard by the way i pa vin anba Internal Affairs.

Coastguard i, form part of the sort of defence ki although parey sa regional bodies la.Nou annan en ponnyen, en kantite korperasyon ek Coast Guard.

So nou travay ansanm.

Me mon dakor ek ou lo sa sityasyon.

Par ler mannyer keksoz in arive.

Dimoun i tant pou, mon bezwen sa ver, mon demann sa ver.

Me selman i annan en, en lot keksoz en lot lanmok la o bor mwan mon ti kapab servi.
So, demande i fasil, me pou war bann, ki mannyer ou kapab fer keksoz avan zis demande?

Mon krwar par ler in lacking.

Alor mon pe anmenn en ponnyen synergies, dan sa ban zafer.

Mon konpran sa.

E louvraz i mars pli byen si ou servi en fasilite ki la ki en lot dimoun pe maintain, run ou zis ou ale e servi li pou sa moman ki ou bezwen.

So ok in ganny demande avan, be nou bezwen revwar tou sa bann zafer.

So mon konpran ki ou pe dir e en keksoz ki mwan, ki konsern mwan en kantite.
Ki nou maximize, nou synergies kit keksoz efektiv, mars li byen.

E focus lo louvraz.

La parey zot pou vwar nou bann budget in ganny koupe.

Me i pa tro trakas mwan, kontrer pa zanmen Manm Onorab demann mwan pou si mon anvi plis budget, akoz sa lannen la, nou bezwen pou maximize tou fason ki nou kapab panse fer keksoz marse, mannyer i ete.

keksoz fer Get the basics right, annou travay koumsa.

Apre zour nou’n met sa an plas dan sis mwan, set mwan nou annan en review.
E hopefully lot lannen osi la nou kapab konnen vreman sa area nou pa kapab compromise.

La nou kapab focus nou bann efforts, budgetary efforts lo bann areas ki nou bezwen.

So mersi pou sa.

Be i anliny ek ou nide ki nou pe travay.

Mersi.

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18 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MR SPEAKER Mersi Minis.

Onorab Ghislain.

HON CHANTAL GHISLAIN Bonzour Minis.

Bonzour tou Manm.

Mon kestyon i dan menm laliny avek pou Onorab Uranie avek Onorab Mondon.
Minis ler mon pe regard anba Regional Fusion Law Enforcement Centre Safety at Sea, mon vwar dan zot saler in desann konsiderableman.

Sorti 332milyon pou ariv 143mil.

Prezan still i annan sa allowances ki'n monte.

Par egzanp kantmenm zot ti pe eksplik nou poudir, mon ankor still en pe konfize lo zafer sa allowance ki'n monte partou.

Sel allowance ki'n desann mon pe vwar, bann allowances ki anba PSC.
Eski sa ki zot pe sey dir nou poudir in desann, prezan in melanz tou ansanm in fer sa bann larestan monte?

Akoz si sa, sa bann allowances PSC eski i pa sipoze annan son laliny pou li menm dan Bidze?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab.

Ok, sa reduction.

reduction ki ou'n Pli gro mansyonnen la.

I basically sa thirteenth-month salary ki’n, ki’n, ki pa la, la.
Lo sa bann allowance ki ou'n mansyonnen mon pe get sa note la, it's more or less reallocation into their respective budget line.

Re-aranzman.

Si, me selman, ah PS?

Zis mon pe get sa re-alokasyon dan respective budget line.

Se tou Onorab.

MR SPEAKER Madanm Labrosse ou annan keksoz pou azoute?

Mon war ou pe fer siny.

ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASSIANA LABROSSE Bonzour.

Mon pa konnen si mon pe ganny en konpran ou kestyon.

Ou pe dir akoz i annan bann ki ou war ou'n desann, i annan in monte?
Prezan ou pe rode akoz dan PSC ou dir allowance ler ou pe get dan, ou pe dir kot reflect ou.

MR SPEAKER Wi Onorab Ghislain.

Klarifye.

HON CHANTAL GHISLAIN Mr Chair madanm taler in eksplik nou in dir, in dir poudir, si nou regarde bann allowances lezot landrwa in desann.

In desann akoz zot in re-aliny li, sanmenm sa ki ou war sa bann pg.

19 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 larestan in monte allowances.’ in ‘other Be nou pa vwar ladan oli sa bann ‘other allowances’ ki'n desann.
Sel allowances ki'n desann.

I sa enn la, sa bann anba PSC allowances.

Sa wi in desann.

Eski i pe dir nou poudir la ki’n in merge ‘other sa bann allowance desann ki'n, ansanm avek allowances’ ki fer li monte?

in, sa Me si sa, dan tou sa bann Bidze, tou bann allowances PSC i sipoze annan son laliny Bidze pou li menm.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel in pare please.

ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASSIANA LABROSSE Wi Onorab.

Anba ‘other allowances ‘la ou pe dir i annan ti 60mil 2020, apre in vin 315mil pou 2021.
Ou pe dir i logmantasyon annan 256mil.

Sa 256mil la, akoz nou annan parey mon'n eksplike taler i annan en msye ki nou pey allowance.

en Bidze lannen pase pa'n ase.

Si ou gete i 60mil.

Prezan i annan ankor lezot dimoun ki ganny inducement allowance ki nou peye anba other allowances.

Larzan pa'n ase.

In pey dan group i ti peye montre en deficit.

Prezan sa lannen nou'n zis reallocate li anba son respective budget line, enkli apre nou'n ogmant li according to cost, ki nou bezwen peye.

Mersi.
Mersi.

Mon pa konnen si mon'n kapab klersi ou pwen?

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Nou a, nou a move on.

Wi.

Ok, nou kapab pase Onorab William.

HON WAVEN WILLIAM Mersi Mr Chairman, bonzour lekout.

tou dimoun ki a Bonzour Minis, Colonel avek PS.

Mr Chairman, premyerman mon ti a kontan dir ki mon siport sa pwen ki Onorab Henrie in leve.
E dezyenmman, mon pe sey konpran en pti pe, the lo kote stratezi, mon pe vwar ki zot dir ki anba ‘major achievements’ zot ariv – (en enstan), wi lo ‘major achievements.’ Premye bullet point zot dir ‘’Regional Centre for Operation Coordination full capability with operational recruitment 9 watchstanders.’’ achieved of Be prezan pli ba anba ‘strategic priorities’ zot dir ki zot in fini achieve full capability.

E dan en lot bor, ou vwar poudir zot pe al recruit ankor two watchstanders.

So mon pe pg.
So mon pe pg.

20 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 mwan lekor, demann egzakteman konbyen dimoun zot pou bezwen akoz zot in fini dir poudir zot in fini achieve the target.

So, zot pe dir ki ou a krwar zot pa ankor achieve zot target.

Epi ler mon pe regard anba zot bann performance measures, mon vwar ankor poudir sa bann figures i pa add- up.

Par egzanp si ou i pou dir mwan poudir be an 2019 ti annan 354 ka nou’n respond 350.
Ou pe prozekte 900, me solman ou response i pou zis, mwens sa prozeksyon ki ou pe donnen.

lanmwatye ki So mon anvi sey konpran en pti egzakteman ki zot pe dir nou.

Akoz ki arive koman parey mon dir nou, nou pe fer oversight.

Nou pe vey vwar bann target ki zot pe donn nou e an menm tan mon vwar poudir sak prezantasyon Bidze ou a krwar i preski menm zafer menm.

So, mon ti a kontan ganny e leksplikasyon egzakteman.

Ki vreman zot pe donn nou, an term lenformasyon pa presi.
MR SPEAKER Ok. Nou al les Minis adrese.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab pou sa kestyon.

Sa ‘major achievements’ mon pe gete la, i ‘’major achievements’ for 2019 to 20 ki zot in raporte.

Nou ki'n arive, ek Regional Centre, mon krwar historically ler in ganny setup i, in al partou, partou pou rod dimoun pou vin travay ladan.
E menm, mon ti a pe koz ek DPA, zot still bezwen reconfigure en pti pli aprofondir bann pos ki ladan.Because i annan en kantite bann pos ki'n ganny borrowed, seconded from lezot bodies dan parey dan DRDM eksetera, eksetera.

So, i still en moman ki ler ou pe koz lo bann performance indicators, mwan osi mon annan en problenm lo sa bann La performance parey parfwa, ki mannyer nou mezir performance.

indicators.

I bezwen baze lo en rezilta, en outcome ki, ki ou'n travay ou pe travay lo la.
Me pa neseserman, parey mon pe get number of distress cases, pou mwan sa i pa en ou pa performance, kontrole sa.

akoz I aparan devan ou, i pa montre ki ou pe travay byen, si i annan bokou, si i annan pti gin.

Mon ti pli kontan vwar bann indicators, ganny mete ladan ki nou pou fer lot lannen, pg.

21 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 ki montre ki petet ou'n respond pou tou.

Petet ou annan en time measure ki anliny ek sa poudir ki ou'n respond but in a certain time.
Sa i ava vin performance.

So, mon dakor ek ou i annan serten keksoz ki mon osi mon pa tro happy avek, lo bann performance indicators, ki pa neseserman donn sa outcome ki ou anvi, ki ou pe rode.

So sa i bann keksoz ki nou bezwen travay lo la.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Wi, Onorab.

Klarifye wi.

HON WAVEN WILLIAM Mersi Mr Chairman pou ou pasyans.

Minister par lefe ki Prezidan li menm li, i pe met lanfaz lo li ‘made in Seychelles’ brand.
E letan mon pe regard sa, sa bann bodies ensidswit la, nou pe plizoumwen pe ganny bann lekipman ki ou a krwar in ganny fer deor, in fabrike in amenn isi Sesel.

Me mon pou demann ou si ou ava kapab zwenn avek en group ki apel Wonderweiss.

The beauty about them se ki zot, zot pe devlop en app ki ou kapab met lo en bwe.

E lo en mobile phone ou information time ganny real enkrwayab.
So, mon pe demann mwan lekor konmsi ki mannyer ou Minister i a kapab fasilit zot, akoz zot bann zenn ki anvi kontribye dan pei.

E lo kote nivo maritime security mon krwar sa ki zot pe anvi, zot proze pou vreman ed ou Minister en kantite.

So mon a demann ou, non sa garson se Mr Hendry e apre sesyon mon kapab donn ou tou lenformasyon lo li.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Wi, Minis ou le respond vitman lo la.

Si ou aksepte sa sizesyon.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA La i bon.

Ok definitivman.


We’re open to any ideas, so we’ll look into that.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Loze.

HON JOHAN LOZE Mersi Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker mon kestyon pou Minis se.

Tradisyonnelman nou asosye Internal Affairs avek lord, lape sekirite, e pli enportan ankor.

La prezervasyon lavi Seselwa, e tou bann viziter dan nou pei.

Ozordi sa ki mon pe vwar se bokou lanfaz pe ganny mete lo Regional Maritime Bodies.

Put aside the fact ki in and of itself pg.


22 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 se sound oxymoronic ki Regional Maritime Bodies i anba Internal Affairs.

Put that aside.

Sa ki mon anvi konnen avek Minis se Minister eski ou, ou annan ase larzan dan ou Minister pou ou formulate Policies, ki pou permet ou servi sa bann Regional Maritime Bodies dan ou core mandate, ki prezervasyon lavi e mentenans lord ek lape Sesel?
Si ou pou kapab fer li, si ou annan Bidze pou ou fer li, e si ou annan dimoun pou kapab fer li pou sort of fold-in zot fonksyon within your core mandate?

Akoz la mannyer nou pe ale la mon pa pe vwar.

In fact, ou a krwar kelken in pran en keksoz ki ti napa en landrwa in met anba ou Minister.

fransman And finally Minister kote i ti ete avan li bann Regional Maritime Bodies?

Thank you, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Minis.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab Loze.

Kote i ti ete avan?
Kote i ti ete avan?

I ti lanmenm.

Me mon krwar i ti anba DM.

Direkteman anba DM avan.

Mon dakor ek ou, ki law enforcement, i ki Minister of Internal Affairs, i vreman annan sa manda lo la.

lo Me, sa, sa bout enforcement la parey mon’n dir earlier i gran.

Ozordi nou pe koz lo RCOC, nou pe koz lo maritime bodies.

Me sa i zis en pti bout sa.

Parey mon’n eksplike taler diferan responsabilite ki vin anba Minis.
E an tou leka, ler ou pe koz preservation of bodies, i annan en lot item byen serye ki mon pa le tro koz lo la, akoz la nou pe koz lo regional bodies, be trafficking persons is en gro problenm osi, ki pe arive Sesel, e serten responsabilite osi lo la.

annan nou So, wi Internal Affairs i tou, bann law enforcement responsibilities.

E pou nou kapab fer sa nou bezwen annan lentelizans, e tousala i bezwen okouran ki nou kapab respond, apre obviously fer nou bann aksyon neseser.
lenformasyon So mon totalman dakor ek ou, ki sa i predominately law enforcement.

Me maritime bodies i donn nou intelligence towards the law enforcement.

So kantmenm ou krwar petet i pa tonm tro anba, i tonbe anba ou kestyon lenformasyon ki i kapab donn nou.

Mon hope mon’n reponn ou kestyon Onorab.

Mersi.

li.

Lo pg.

23 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MR SPEAKER Wi Onorab Loze, si oule klarifye.

HON JOHAN LOZE Minister mon ti anvi konnen.

Eski ou annan ase larzan?


Eski ou annan ase Bidze, ou anba ou Minister pou anmenn the correct Policy formulation ki pou permet ou Minister, pran whatever ou gannyen avek sa bann maritime bodies pou fer li vin real time, actionable on the ground ki bann leres bodies anba ou portfolyo i kapab servi?

I kapab poz lanmen lo la e servi, aksyonnen lo la e anmenn en rezilta ki a benefisye dan e mentenans lord, lape e sekirite pou lanasyon Seselwa.

Sete sa esansyelman.


Mwan mon anvi konnen, si ou annan ase ase mwayen?

Ou resours pou permet ou tradwir sa ki sa bann Maritime Regional Bodies pe anmennen, pou ou servi ater on the ground.

Thank you, Mr Speaker.

prezervasyon annan lavi MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Minis.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab Loze.

Resours in terms of, si ou pe koz resours.

Larzan mon krwar nou annan ase larzan si nou servi li byen.
Pa zis larzan dan nou Bidze, larzan lo sa amount ki la, ki sa €650mil ki permet nou fer bann legzersis at no cost.

Larzan ki nou gannyen ek UNODC osi pou fer bann training ki la.

Nou bezwen really en pti pe pli efektiv.

Mwan mon krwar parfwa nou pa'n servi sa bann larzan ase, so lo kestyon larzan pou train, pou run sa Centre, nou annan ase pou sa bann gro, gro bout enportan.
Me selman nou annan en defisit lo Bidze Minister Internal Affairs, lo par egzanp bann pozisyon pou watchstanders nou pa'n ganny Bidze pou sa.

So, lo sa bout nou napa ase.

Me selman nou annan ase louvraz la ki sa pa, pa pou met nou an retar pou travay akoz nou pe met keksoz an plas la.

So, pou sa ziske mid-term si oule nou annan ase louvraz pou nou focus lo la.

Oubyen nou pa bezwen larzan pou sa nou kapab travay sa ki nou bezwen travay.
Akoz i annan en kantite coordination ki nou bezwen met ansanm dan Regional Centre.

Mon hope mon’n reponn ou kestyon byen.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Minis.

Onorab Arissol Sandy.

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24 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 HON SANDY ARISSOL Mersi Mr Speaker.

Bonzour avek Minis delegasyon.

tou Manm.

Tou Bonzour dimoun a lekout.

Mr Speaker, mon ti a kontan retourn ankor lo sa pwen ‘allowance.’ Lo pwen kantite dimoun ki travay, en legzanp.
Annou pran li byen kot NISCC, mon ti a kontan demann madam parey Onorab Mondon in demande, Onorab Ghislain in demande, konbyen dimoun nou annan kot NISCC ki travay?

Ki i sivilyen, ki i segonde mon ti a kontan ganny sa larepons avan mon demann lezot mon kestyon?

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Madam Labrosse.

Ou pare pou pran sa?

COLONEL GEORGE ADELINE Mersi Mr Chair.

An repons kestyon konbyen dimoun ki travay kot NISCC.
Parey taler nou’n dir i annan senk Manm SPDF, apre i annan en sekreter ki asiste direkter pou lemoman.

Sa bann staff ki'n ganny allocate avek NISCC.

Mersi Mr Chair.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Arissol.

HON SANDY ARISSOL Mersi Mr Speaker.

Mersi chef pou larepons.

Savedir senk SPDF avek en sivilyen.

Prezan mon retourn lo kestyon ki ti ganny demande ankor taler.

Mon ti a kontan konnen.

Konbyen allowance, sa bann dimoun pe gannyen an relasyon ek bann kestyon ki'n ganny demande taler?
Mon ti a kontan ganny sa lenformasyon, parske souvan fwa sa bann lenformasyon nou pa ganny donnen koman en Lasanble Nasyonal.

E zis ale nou koumsanmenm e nou pa konnen ki pe pase laba.

Mon ti a kontan konnen, konbyen bann dimoun i gannyen kot NISCC, bann allowance zot in koz lo la?

Mon premye kestyon, rod touzour.

Mon dezyenm kestyon mon ti a kontan demande lo NISCC se, dan lepase lekel ki'n odit NISCC, lekel ki'n odit li?

Mon dezyenm kestyon.


Eski bann fonksyon ki zot pe fer, eski i pa duplicate en pe bann lezot fonksyon ki lezot bann lazans ki tonm anba zisteman, Minis pou Internal Affairs i fer?

Eki raporte par egzanp, e ki zot fer sa rapor?

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25 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 NISCC e ki i raporte?

Mon pe koz lo NISCC parske kestyon in ganny demande lo la, be selman i annan lezot.

E ki NISCC i raporte?

Eski i annan bann rapor la fizik ki koman nou, nou Lasanble vini tyeke, gete?
kapab Mon ti a kontan ganny sa bann lenformasyon.

Be selman mon bout pli lenformasyon mon le lo allowance.

Mersi bokou.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel.

ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASSIANA LABROSSE Mersi Onorab pou ou kestyon.

Parey mon’n dir taler, mon pa'n anmenn sa bann lenformasyon avek mwan.

Mon ava fer ou konnen konbyen allowance, zot saler, payroll.

Akoz mon pa'n anmenn payroll ek mwan.

Mon a fer ou gannyen apre.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Ok.

Lo lezot kestyon Onorab NISCC.


Lekel MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Onorab Arissol ok.

Lo ou kestyon audit.

Yes, in fact tou bann diferan departman anba mwan.

Mon’n vin ek en lentansyon fer audit.

E mon ti byen kontan ki mon konnen ki Minister Finans in fini fer sa pou mwan.

Dan Imigrasyon, dan Prizon partou zot pe fer audit.

So, tousala i la, e lo ou lot kestyon i avek ki si zot fer rapor?

Nou annan rapor, rapor sorti NISCC.

Mon kapab donn ou en kopi, ki pa ek mwan la.


Selman ma fer ou ganny en kopi.

So rapor i la, e zot raport ek Minister of Internal Affairs pou enstan.

Pa pou enstan, pou toultan la.

Avan i ti Minister, Designated Minister, i Minister Internal Affairs.

Mersi.

la MR SPEAKER Good mersi.

Onorab Gill.

HON CHURCHILL GILL Mersi Mr Chair.

Bonzour Minis ek ou delegasyon.

Mon kestyon i an relasyon avek sa progranm 3. for Operation.

Mr Adeline in dir nou poudir nou ganny €650mil.


Regional Centre Lo en sonm 3000 ekek ou a koriz mwan, si mon pa'n ganny ou byen.

3milyon ekek, me selman sa Centre i baze kot nou.

Eski ou kapab donn nou en nide, vi ki i baze kot nou i savedir main kordinasyon ganny fer par nou.

Akoz ki nou, nou ganny zis 650mil ladan dan pg.

26 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 sa sonm ki annan available?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel.

Kolonel wi.

COLONEL GEORGE ADELINE Mersi Mr Chair.


Pasyant ek mwan en pti pe mon a donn ou en leksplikasyon.

Sa larzan ki'n ganny met akote la.

Mon i annan ti dir €2.3milyon ki Linyon Eropeen in met akote pou partaz ant tou bann Pei Manm.

I annan set pei Manm, tou bann pei la COI.

Apre lo Grande-Terre, kontinan Afriken i annan Djibouti avek Kenya.

Ki mannyer sa larzan in ganny partaze?

I annan en pledge ki ganny fer.

Sak Nasyon ou bezwen pledge assets, dapre ou assets ki ou'n pledge, ou ganny ou porsyon.
E dapre kalkilasyon ki nou'n fer levalyasyon ki nou fer, Sesel dapre assets ki'n pledge an relasyon avek sa sonm global, in ganny son porsyon ki sa sonm ki ou'n mansyonnen.

Tou lezot pei osi i annan pei ki pa'n pledge bokou asset.

In ganny bokou mwens, bokou mwens.

I annan pei ki annan pli gro asset ki Sesel, in ganny plis i ganny ki Sesel.

Koumsa distribye.

I pa ganny distribye dan tou fason ekitribye ki en dimoun i ganny parey.

Me dapre asset ki'n pledge ou siny en Kontra.


E la ou ganny en porsyon i met dan ou Labank Santral, ki nou kapab debloke letan ou al fer ou loperasyon lo nivo rezyonal.

Sa sant Sesel li menm li, li, Sesel i parey tou lezot Manm i annan son, son pouvwar parey tou lezot Manm.

Malgre sa sant i Sesel i pa pou Sesel.

Sa sant i pou larezyon e in i annan en Lakor ganny, Rezyonal ki tou bann pei in sinyen pou zot dakor, pou zot etablir sa sant.
Sesel osi in form parti sa Lakor e li osi se pou se la ki i annan son porsyon.

Malgre sa sant i Sesel, i annan en Host Country Agreement, ki Sesel in sinyen pou li kapab, pou sa sant kapab ganny etablir dan Sesel Me dan sa Host Country Agreement Sesel i in permet sa sant pou li ganny formen, ki’n donn li son iminite avek son bann benefis diplomatik, parey tou bann Misyon lezot Diplomatik i gannyen aletranze.
Se pou s la ki Sesel i pou benefisye parey tou lezot pei i benefisye dan sa sonm an demann ki zot pou fer avek nou.

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27 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Ouswa bann lensidan ki kapab arive dan lavenir.

In deza, Sesel in deza komans tap-in.

Nou'n komans servi, a detrwa, de repriz, in komans tap-in.

E nou'n fer loperasyon ki konsern rezyonal e zot in ganny refund pour loperasyon ki zot al fer lo nivo lanpler rezyonal.

Mersi Mr Chair.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Colonel.

Wi, ok Onorab Vidot.


HON AUDREY VIDOT Mersi Mr Chair.

Mr Chair lo.

Bonzour bann dimoun Roche Caiman e tou dimoun ki a lekout e panel.

Minis lo paz 260 in donn detay klerman manda Internal Affairs Sesel.

ki stratezi Eski ou kapab donn nou detay, kwa ki nouvo plan Gouvernman nef, pou anplifye ansyen lo Gouvernman ti’n etablir pour ki zot delivre manda ki zot annan?
E sa se donn direksyon stratezik e sirvey bann lezot Minister e departman e lazans, pou asire ki lefikasite dan zot bann servis i ganny delivre?

E ki Seselwa i kapab vwar e krwar sa portre, sanzman reel atraver ou Mr Chair, ki Onorab Henrie pe penn, bomaten.

Dezyenm Minis, mon’n apresye ou komanter ki ou'n fer lo size human trafficking.

Akoz i annan Seselwa la deor ki pe viv dan serten lensertitid.

Ki zot kapab ganny kidnap, ganny lo en avyon e ganny met disparet.
San bezwen mansyonn, san petet zot manm fanmir konnen kot zot ete.

Alors eski i kapab senpleman, panel senpleman donn lasirans, nou Lasanble ki sa Bidze ki pe demann nou pou vot lo la, pa pou ganny servi pou siport okenn Minister ou departman ou lazans ou Gouvernman ki zis deport dimoun, san respekte Lalwa e Konstitisyon Sesel?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Minis.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Mr Speaker e mersi Onorab Vidot.

Nou pe koz lo, lo Regional Centre, ou premye kestyon lo plan ki nou annan.
I vre, mannyer, mon’n vwar Regional Centre parey mon’n dir eksplike boner.

I sa diferan bout.

Tousala i enportan e tousala ti egziste avan.

I la, i ti la.

E lekipman in la tou zafer i korek.

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28 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Me zis problenm ti dekalaz ki mannyer zot fonksyonn an relasyon avek tousala.

Sa kot sa pli gran problenm ti annan.

redwir Alor ou annan en sistenm an plas, me son efikasite i son ganny kordinasyon i pa'n ganny byen met ansanm.
E sa i really plan ki mon oule fer.

Be la mon pe koz zis lo Regional Centre.

si Ou mansyonn TIP.

TIP en keksoz byen enportan.

Me lo kestyon deport dimoun mon a kouver sa ler mon vin.

Mon krwar apre sa mon pou vin, mon pou vin ek Imigrasyon nou a koz lo la pli tar.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Mersi Minis.

Onorab Pillay.

HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY Mersi, mersi Mr Chairman.

Bonzour Minis e bonzour tou dimoun a lekout.

Mr Chairman Bidze Departman Entern i en Bidze ase enportan.
I pa en Bidze ki konsern zis bann Regional Maritime Centres.

E i annan en rol enportan from en pou sa Minister pwennvi Polisi, from en pwennvi resers.

Ki i en bidze ki neseser ki koman en Lasanble nou pran li from sa perspektiv.

E mon krwar si ou Seselwa, e ou en patriyot e ou krwar dan ou pei, en Bidze ki loportinite pou annan donn bann profesyonnel ki pe regard lord, lapes, sekirite.

I neseser e sa i en keksoz ki nou tou nou bezwen gete.

Me selman, i annan serten konfizyon ki'n ganny kree la.
Par egzanp, Minister Finans eski zot kapab eksplik nou akoz zot in in tir Regional Maritime Centres koman en line head dan Bidze.

Zot enkli li dan Bidze Minis e pe fer Minis fer en kantite gymnastic, pou li kapab eksplik sa sityasyon.

Lo tou Kan si i ti’n vin klerman avek son head li menm.

Nou ti ava annan son breakdown konplet.

bann allowances parey Onorab Arissol pe demande, lo tou bann lezot depans parey bann lezot Onorab pe demande.

Sa i mon premye kestyon, klarifye avek nou petet mon ki mal?
Dezyenmman mon'n fer mon resers avan nou vin dan Lasanble, e mon’n come across plizyer materials ki montre bann meetings ki'n ganny fer ant Sesel ek bann lezot pei.

E dan laliny ki Minis ti pe lenformasyon dir, Lasanble.

An 2013 at its height piracy ti kout Gouvernman pou pg.

29 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Kenya $60milyon, Gouvernman Sesel around $10milyon.
almost ti E nou kapab konpran avek sityasyon ekonomik ki mannyer pe ale avek COVID-19, si Somali i deside retourn dan sa aktivite, i pou kout nou bokou plis akoz exchange rate dolar ek roupi ozordi i bokou pli o. E lenpak ki sa pou annan lo nou lekonomi i riske bokou pli prononse.

Dan sa konteks Minis.

Onorab Loze in demann ou kestyon ase pertinan.

Akoz an relasyon avek sa bann sant, ti osi annan par egzanp bann Referral Forensic Regional Centres ki ti sipoze ganny setup.
And an relasyon ek ballistic, an relasyon avek to provide ek lenformasyon pou Law and Order.

lentelizans Eski ou Minister pe regard dan striktirasyon Polisi ki neseser pou fer sa?

E eski anba Bidze, mon pa ti a kontan krwar Minis ki ou'n bezwen fer sa gymnastic pou met bann Regional Maritime Centres anba ou Bidze.

Pou swell ou Bidze en pti pe plis pou kapab ganny en resours adisyonnel, pou ou kapab fer serten aktivite.

Petet mon mal ou ava koriz mwan mon Minis si sa i leka.
E mon dernyen pwen Mr Chairman, nou konnen poudir Minister Finans in deza fer en kantite travay vizavi anti-money laundering.

E bann lezot keksoz ki FATF i demande.

Ki osi form par rol travay Internal Affairs akoz ou'n vwar Minis ou'n komans ganny pouvwar pou menm demann dir bann labank, pa donn larzan an relasyon ek bann finansman terorizm.

Sa ki mon ti a kontan demann ou Minis.

Spesifikman lo la.

Nou konnen Madagascar osi i annan en, i sipoze annan en lot konponan sa sant.
Eski bann sipor ki nou pe gannyen, ki nou pe gannyen, i parey pou sa bann lezot pei, mon konnen ou'n eksplike?

E eski konponan lokal ki nou, nou pe mete i parey ki sa bann lezot pei pe mete dan bann sant ki kot zot?

Eski nou, nou pe met plis konponan lokal, oubyen eski zot ki pe met plis konponan lokal?

Mersi Mr Chairman.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Minis.

Sorry mon krwar premye kestyon ti ganny adrese pou PS, lo akoz ou'n sanz Regional Centres kot i paret dan Bidze?
PS i a pran sa, apre Minis a pran leres.

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30 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 PS DAMIEN THESEE Mersi Mr Chair.

Premyerman se bann Minister zot menm avek DPA ki responsab pou striktir.

Nou, nou zis fund the structures parey nou ganny donnen.

Me selman parey nou ti vwar lannen pase osi.

Bann Regional Centres ti deza anba Minis Dezinyen so, i napa nanryen diferan ki'n sanze.

Me parkont nou'n fer son progranm separe, ou vwar sanmenm i apel li Office of the Internal Affairs Minister.
annan de diferan progranm.

I En progranm enn ki pou Minister Secretariat apre son dezyenm progranm i donn detay sa trwa, akoz dan sa regional bodies i annan trwa bodies.

Sanmenm sa ki fer li konplike avek trwa, trwa heads.

I pa vreman en striktir en antite, me i en fonksyon ki'n ganny groupe ansanm.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Ok. Oule klarifye?

Wi.

HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY Mersi Mr Chairman.

Mr Chairman mwan.

Mon go according to Lalwa, ki devan mwan.


Tou sa kestyon ki'n monte depi lot kote latab, ziska sa kote ti ti pou pli fasil reponn si sa madanm en breakdown Bidze pour Regional Centres parey nou'n annan 2019/2020.

annan 2021 nou'n pran sa nou'n insert li dan Bidze Internal Affairs.

Mon konpran ki i pe fer in toultan la li.

Me selman i ti annan son line head ki fer li pli fasil pou nou sa lenformasyon, e demann sa bann kestyon spesifik.
retrieve kapab Si nou oule konnen konbyen allowance sa endividi pe gannyen.

Nou vwar dan allowance, konbyen i ete nou kapab demann nou nominal roll, konpran?

Mon kestyon pou zot se akoz Minis pa ti ganny advise ki sa, ki sa konplikasyon ki sa in kree in fer ki Manm pa, lo tou lede kote latab, in bezwen raise kestyon regarding allowance ki menm zofisye ki'n vin la in ganny difikilte pou reponn?

Sa i mon pwen.

Mersi Mr Chairman.

MR SPEAKER PS, wi.

PS DAMIEN THESEE Mersi Mr Chair.


Mr Chair ordinerman nou pa donn detay allowance dan Bidze.

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31 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Akoz nominal roll avek ou payroll pa pou dan san bann dokiman.

Nou annan tou sa bann progranm ki'n ganny mete dan Bidze sa bann sub- programmes.

E parey nou'n dir, si i anvi detay payroll nou kapab rod payroll avek tou sa bann allowance pou donnen dan break.

Mersi MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Minis, ou ava adres lezot kestyon silvouple.


Oubyen lot panel, mon pa konnen.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Mr Speaker.

E in fact PS in fer en pwen ki mon ti anvi fer resorti.

I depan ki detay ou bezwen, akoz nou pe get Bidze me selman bann supporting documents.

Do we go as far as anmenn pay slips?

Printout pay slips.

You know, so nou bezwen konnen.

Me tou sa bann lenformasyon i la, e zot annan access pou sa si zot bezwen.

Nou pou donn zot.
Nou pou donn zot.

Me selman nou pa kapab anmenn bann lenformasyon ek nou ozordi.

Me zot kestyon i relevant e nou apresye sa.

E so ek sa nou pou kapab provide sa pou zot.

tou sa Onorab Pillay in fer, in koz lo anti-money laundering.

Mon pa tro ganny en konpran ki mannyer, ki pwen ki ou ti a pe sey fer ek nou bann Regional Centre.

enforcement Kantmenm dan tou laspe i annan law overlaps.

Ok, nou konnen i annan overlaps, me mon pa tro sezi ki ou ti anvi konnen lo anti- money laundering.
Petet ou ti kapab eksplik mwan ankor en pti pe.

Mon ti kapab reponn sa kestyon.

Mersi MR SPEAKER Onorab Pillay ou a rephrase en pti kou vitman?

HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY Mersi Mr Chairman.

Mr Chairman si nou swiv, si nou swiv prezantasyon ki ti ganny fer avek Ministerial Group an relasyon avek ki apel The Djibouti Declaration on Maritime Safety and Security.

Ok?

Ki ti fer ok?
Ok?

Ki ti fer ok?

Apard bann ganny e striktirel konponan operasyonnel konsern lentelizans pou asir maritime security, ki osi, ti annan en konponan pou fer tracing larzan ki come out of sa bann aktivite.

fer, pou ki E prezan tou bann Gouvernman ti ganny en rol pou fer.

Me Sesel ti deza, mon'n, mon'n sa ki mon’n dir se ki Sesel ti deza avanse par pg.

32 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 travay ki Minister Finans ti pe fer.

Me ki prezan ou Minister pou bezwen osi follow-up lo la.
E sa ki mon ti pe demande, se ki eski ou'n ganny Bidze pou fer sa?

Rezon mon’n dir ou sa, se akoz ler mon’n get Bidze de lannen presedan, Bidze bann Regional Bodies i R9milyon.

Ki fer ki sa mon kalkil i byen.

ou pou Actual Departman Internal Affairs, proper pou annan son Polisi ambit i zis R6milyon apepre.

budget So kestyon ki mon ti pe demande se R6milyon ler ou bezwen tir tou sa larzan pou donn Regional Bodies.
Eski ou annan sa larzan pou ou delivre lo sa ambit ki ou annan koman Department of Internal Affairs?

That was my question, Mr Chairman.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Minis.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Yeah mon pli konpran ou la.

Ok wi akoz ou konnen akoz sa bann komite sa bann High Level Committee ki nou annan lo, lo maritime safety and all that, i en diferan konponan lazans Lapolis, FCIU, FIU tousala.
lo counter terrorism, diferan, So zot, zot annan zot bann respective, respective budget pou fer sa bann louvraz.

E en kantite mon rol dan sa dan bann bout i pa tonm anba mon Bidze direkteman.

Me anba plis mon gidans.

So, based on that, bann item ki zot pou bezwen pran, pou tonm anba zot Bidze.

So mon napa en Bidze separe pou sa.

E mon pa vwar sa nesesite pou enstan.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Wi, Onorab.

HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY Mersi Mr Chairman.

Mersi pour, pour ou endilzans.


Dernyen kestyon ki mon annan pou Minis se.

Eski alors anba ou Bidze vi ki ou pa pe vwar nesesite pou annan Bidze adisyonnel?

Eski anba ou Bidze la, nou pou annan okenn redundancies fer, dan ou ki pe ganny Departman Internal Affairs, an relasyon avek fonksyon ki ou departman pe fer?

E si i annan Mr Speaker atraver nou ti’n deza fer request ek DPA pou nou ganny tou bann dimoun ki lo bann public sector contracts.

Ki mon pa ankor gannyen.


Nou ti’n osi demande tou bann dimoun ki sipoze pe go pg.

33 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 through process redundancies, ki nou osi pa ankor gannyen.

lo So nou ti a kontan ki ganny adisyonnelman nou lenformasyon sa bann allowances ki bann Manm pe demann kestyon lo la, from sa departman ki ava anvoy, kot koman Chairman FPAC nou ava a, mon ava distribye.

E Onorab Arissol i osi en Manm FPAC, Onorab Mondon i Vice-Chair FPAC.

E bann lenformasyon nou gannyen.


Mon enplore ki nou gannyen.

pou an Me relasyon ek redundancies Minister, eski ou annan redundancies dan ou departman?

Mersi Mr Chairman.

MR SPEAKER Minis, redundancies.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Yeah.

Thank you.

Mersi Onorab Pillay.

Wi an tou le ka.

Si ou konpar, you know mon, sa Secretariat ki dan building kot la Third Floor mon Independence House ti pou DM sa.

ete So, mon, mwan mon Secretariat i vreman meg so mon napa en konsiltan, ki li i ti annan.
Mon pou perdi mon, en PS ki pa tonbe anba mwan pou mwan, akoz sa PS ti anba DM.

Mon annan osi serten demann ki mon ti demande pou en public relations person, en legal person pou bann analiz ki mon bezwen fer.

Mon pa’n gannyen dan sa Bidze.

Me kantmenm mon pa'n ganny tousala, mon pe annan ase louvraz pou mwan kontinyen san sa pour en lot, en lot moman.

E mon pe hope ki dan sa review ki pe vini, mon a kapab ganny enn de sa bann post.

Me la i vre mon Minister i meg me pou lenstan, mon pe naz zaviron la.
Ok?

Divan in tonm en pti gin mon pou naz zaviron.

Mon pa pou complain lo divan so, i en pti pe meg.

Me selman louvraz i la mon kapab fer li.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Avek sa mon’n ariv a la lot.

A lalis entervenan.

Onorab Cosgrow mon’n, mon annan en lalis la mon’n fermen.

Lekel sa?

lafen mon HON WALLACE COSGROW Mon ti annan en pti kestyon baze lo repons Minis.

Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Ale mon a permet ou.

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34 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 HON WALLACE COSGROW Enn pti kestyon Mr Speaker.

En pti kestyon.

MR SPEAKER Wi.

HON WALLACE COSGROW Mersi Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker Minis in dir ki son, i annan en kantite fer.Me travay pou solman i napa ase dimoun.

Ti annan en PS anba Biro DM.

Akoz ou pa rope li in akoz mon konnen sa PS i well au fait avek en kantite sa bann louvraz ki ti pe ganny fer.

Sirtou sa bann Regional Bodies.


En sizesyon pou Minis Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Minis ou a pran sa koman en sizesyon.

E mon krwar nou kapab prosed pou vote.

Onorab Henrie mon ti a kontan termin la, kantmenm in.

In mansyonn ou non, mon konnen, me.

Ok, selman i pa en kestyon pou antre ladan.

Ale.

HON GERVAIS HENRIE Mr Speaker akoz i annan de pwen ki'n leve dan nou deba ki’n kree en konfizyon parmi piblik.

E lefe ki panel i ankor la zot ti ava, de pti presizyon vitman.
Premyerman letan nou koz secondment, e nou'n koz bann zofisye militer par egzanp.

Ki piblik i anvi konnen, eski letan i koumsa, en zofisye lame i sorti dan militer i vin dan enn sa bann regional bodies.

Ki sa i vedir?

Eski i ganny en saler?

Avek sa regional bodies, ouswa i kontinyen ganny peye ek larme, i ganny peye ek regional bodies plus other allowances?

Sa i premye clarité.

Eski i ganny en saler, ouswa plis ki de?


E dezyenmman eski depi i annan en Oktob 2020, Seselwa ki'n ganny met lo en avyon - en Seselwa in ganny met lo en avyon e deporte dan Sesel?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mon krwar sa enn dezyenm.

Minis.

Minis in deza adrese sa.

Minis ou a kontan, adres sa de pwen vitman silvouple?

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Wi Onorab.

Mersi pou kestyon.

Wi secondment i sa landrwa kot i sorti, i kontinyen pey son saler.
Si i annan okenn lezot allowances ki vin ek sa louvraz, la zot a gannyen parey dan pg.

35 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 (ARSI) osi ki annan Colonel Adeline i run.

Zot ganny en allowance lo sa bann Lagreman baze Rezyonal ki zot annan.

Sa i pa allowance sorti dan nou Bidze.

So, zot benefis lo la.

2020 ki'n arive?

Sa kestyon silvouple.

MR SPEAKER Lo size.

Pardon.

Lo size Imigrasyon.

Mon krwar Minis in dir poudir i pou pran sa anba Departman Imigrasyon.

Alor annou tenir li la.


Silvouple.

Mersi.

Avek sa nou a pran vot lo Bidze, pou sa head.

Office of the Minister of Internal Affairs lo paz 260 pou 265.

Pou en Bidze R12milyon25mil.

Bann ki an faver lev lanmen silvouple?

Okenn ki kont?

Napa, mersi.

Bon Bidze pou Office of the Minister for Internal Affairs paz 260 ziska 265.

Pou en total R12milyon 25mil i ganny 31 vot pour 0 kont e 0 abstain.

Alor Bidze in ganny aprouve, pou sa head.

Nou pou pran en poz la pou le moman.


E mon konpran nou poudir orevwar Colonel Adeline, e madanm Labrosse, e mersi pou zot partisipasyon.

Ler nou retournen, mon ti a kontan nou kapab fer en pe pli vit.

E pou sa mon ti a sizere ki bann Manm i prepar zot kestyon, pou zot vin direkteman a pwen.

Zot kestyon oubyen zot komanter si zot annan.

Komanter i devret reste kourt, al direkteman lo la.

E mon ti a kontan envit panel ki zot al direkteman lo repons.

Dan en fason pli, pli vit.


Mon a dir zot mersi bokou.

Nou a poz e nou a repran 11er en kar.

(BREAK) DEPARTMENT IMMIGRATION STATUS OF CIVIL & MR SPEAKER Nou pe pran Bidze departman.

Department of Immigration & Civil Status.

E mon annan plezir pou welcome Mr Alain Volcere Sekreter Prensipal.

Dan sa departman Mr Michel Elizabeth Chief Immigration Officer.

E madanm Lina Bodombo-James, Financial Controller.

Avek sa.
Avek sa.

Wi, Bidze Department of Immigration & Civil Status i lo paz 290 ziska 296, pou en total R64milyon 809mil.

Avek sa mon ava envit Minis fer son lentrodiksyon.

pg.

36 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Mr Speaker e tou Manm Onorab.

Mr Speaker zis en pour overview Departman Imigrasyon & Civil Status.

budget lo Alokasyon pou sa lannen i R64milyon 808, 865mil ki en logmantasyon de 45poursan o konparezon ek Bidze lot lannen.
45poursan ki form apepre R20milyon an plis.

Ladan, pou ‘wages and salaries,’ i annan 29milyon.2, services’ ‘goods and 35milyon.5, sa ki R64milyon.8 sonm pou nou Bidze an total.

form requirement e Mr Speaker, anba ‘goods and services.’ Mon anvi fer enn de pti komanter, anba ‘’office expenses,’ nou annan en increase de R33,153mil e sa increase i baze lo electricity e actual ogmantasyon de reallocations of funds.

‘Transportasyon and travel cost’, nou annan en increase R33,600.
Basically, pou bann, pou bann vizit ki nou antisipe.

Pa neseserman an deor me Praslin, La Digue eksetera e pou bann staff laba osi fer zot vwayaz.

enn Dan ‘maintenance and repairs’.

Nou annan en increase de R32mil, 32.021 sa pou maintenance of vehicles.

E lezot kou maintenance nou bann transpor.

Nou annan en lot increase dan ‘materials and supplies’ par 38,500 e dan ‘other use and goods and services’, nou annan en decrease de 1.5milyon.

en annan dan nou Nou pti bann decrease allowances ki 697mil.
Nou annan en rent decrease, dan nou office rent.

De, 222mil ki en rediksyon ki'n ganny mete dan tou Bidze Gouvernman lo sa bann rent ki nou fer.

Ki nou fer pour bann lofis ek lezot keksoz ki nou rent ek bann manm piblik.

25poursan ‘Minor capital outlays’, nou annan en increase 24.

- 24.6milyon.

E sa an tou le ka i ti aparan dan Bidze lannen pase ki pa'n ganny servi, i pou nou proze biometric passport ki nou pe travay serye lo la.

E nou sipoze konplet sa, sa lannen.

E sa pou en zouti enportan.


Akoz i pou donn nou osi en moman, ki nou pou kapab revi passport ki'n ganny, ki'n ganny allocate a diferan dimoun oparavan.

E nou kapab revwar egzakteman, lekel sa bann dimoun ki annan passport Seselwa.

So sa pou en bon lokazyon pou nou kapab fer sa.

pg.

37 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Internal Affairs, Mr Speaker, menm ler mon ti a pe prezant Bidze pou Minister in mont en sityasyon lo bann zafer (PI) la.
Zis mon anvi fer en pti, enn pti komanter lo la.

Premyerman ‘Prohibited Immigrants’ pa aplike pou Seselwa.

Seselwa si i fer en keksoz mal, Lakour ki deal avek li.

Nou, nou en Nasyon ki parey zot pou vwar ozordi nou pe kreve ki touris i re-antre Sesel.

Nou pe rod tou fason pou touris kapab revin Sesel pou nou komans nou industry.

E sanmenm sa progranm Gouvernman pou vaccinate, e la mon kontan sa bann desann ki nou desann lo bann regular cases, anyway sa pa en ka pou ozordi.
nou Me zis mon pe fer lanfaz lenportans Tourism Industry.

Alor nou, nou en Nasyon ki dan nou disan nou kontan welcome dimoun se nou.

Me ler ou welcome en boug se ou osi, ou pou donn li en lasyet manze, ou pou fer li asiz lo en latab.

I annan serten respe i bezwen respe ler i se ou.

E dan sa bann sityasyon, ki nou war dimoun vin isi pou ki rezon zot pe vin isi.

E parfwa zot menm ganny en sans ganny en resident permit ouswa en dependent permit, ouswa ki permi ki zot kapab reste pli lontan ki zis en GOP.
Ki annan serten kriter, i enportan ki zot konport zot lekor, dapre ki nou ekspekte isi Sesel.

E si i annan okenn sityasyon ki an deor, ki nou ekspekte.

E parey dan nou (PI) sityasyon i dir.

Sa dimoun, sa i dimoun son prezans inimical.

Savedir i pa, i pa byen, i pa dan nou lentere Sesel e la nou order en PI.

isi E i mon responsabilite osi pou fer sir, ki PI i ganny fer, ler i devret ganny fer.

Akoz si mon pa fer sa osi, mon get de kote mon les pase.

Nou pe sali zimaz nou pei.


So, sa bann desizyon pa ganny fer zis koumsa.

Nou pe, lo nou pe dimoun.

Alor nou bezwen get byen ki nou fer.

fer en desizyon Me selman an menm tan, ler desizyon in bezwen ganny fer, i pou ganny fer e nou pou fer li e nou pou kontinyen fer li.

Si i neseser.

Mon ti a kontan zis fer en pti statement lo la.

Avek sa Mr Speaker, mon ti a kontan, mon ti a kontan, mon pare pou nou move through the budget, e reponn zot kestyon kot nou kapab reponn.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER pg.


38 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Mersi.

Lo mon lalis, mon a repas lo mon lalis zis pou zot verifye.

Mon annan Onorab Pillay, Lemiel, Aglae, Vidot, Cosgrow, Uranie, Ghislain, Loze, Esparon, Woodcock, Naidu, Roucou, Andre, Labrosse, Monthy, Romain, Philip, Arissol Samynadin, William, Arissol Sandy.

Labonte, Mon'n mank enn.

Onorab Hoareau, mon'n mank Onorab Gill ok. Mersi bokou.

Ale mon azout sa de.

Mersi, nou a komans.


Ok, les mwan komans laba avek Onorab Esparon.

mon HON REGINA ESPARON Mersi Mr Chairman.

Mr Chairman, premye ti a kontan kestyon mon demann avek, avek Minis.

Si dan sa Bidze i annan alokasyon pou nouvo lekipman pou fer, pou fer ID card?

Akoz mon pe demann zot sa kestyon Minis.

Parski mon konnen ti annan en sizesyon dan lepase pou kapab disteng ID card ki en dimoun ki lo GOP i gannyen, ek en dimoun ki en Seselwa.
Parske an se moman, en ID card ki en dimoun ki lo GOP i annan i parey avek sa enn ki en citizen Seselwa i annan.

Eski i annan alokasyon dan sa Bidze, pou kapab fer sa bann nouvo kart idantite pou bann, bann ki lo GOP?

E dezyenmman Minis, ler mon pe regard anba ou ‘current challenges’, ou met ‘’existing of underperforming technological system which is slow.’’ Epi letan mon pe get dan ou bann detay, mon vwar anba minor capital, capital outlay.
I annan IT acquisition equipment, me selman ou, ou annan ou acquisition of high tech equipment.

of Eski sa alokasyon ki la i annan R24mil, i pou R24milyon i larzan ki'n ganny allocate, pour kapab sa challenges ki ou'n dir ou bann lekipman i dousman.

overcome Epi dernyen klarifikasyon, mon ti kontan konnen bann dimoun ki lo GOP, ler zot pe fer en kart idantite, eski i annan en kou ki atase avek?

Si wi konbyen zot pe peye pour en kart idantite bann dimoun ki lo GOP?
Parski Seselwa ki perdi son kart idantite i pey R150 e mon ti a kontan konnen sa bann ki lo GOP konbyen i peye?

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Minis, panel.

Lekel ki pou komanse?

PS pou komanse.

Wi.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE pg.

39 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Mersi Mr Chairman.

Mersi bonzour tou dimoun.

Bonzour tou dimoun ki a lekout.

Bonzour bann Onorab.

Bon an sa ki konsern ID card, sa i dan nou proze letan fer revizyon Lalwa nou pe Imigrasyon.
Nou fer, dan Lalwa i annan provizyon pou bann cards, savedir pou annan, GOP cards e lezot card pou bann permits.

Savedir pou napa bann fer permi papye, sa provizyon dan nou Lalwa.

i pou E sa i pou enkli osi national identity card, pou tou enkli bann non- dimoun Seselwa ki pe viv isi.

MR SPEAKER Kontinyen.

Wi i annan kestyon lo si etranze, lo GOP i pey ID card?

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Wi.

Annefe, wi son kou se R300.

MR SPEAKER Wi, ok. Apre kestyon lo IT equipment, lekel ki pou reponn Minis oubyen PS?
PS ALAIN VOLCERE Zis ou kapab remind mwan en pti pe ki, sorry pou … MR SPEAKER Ou a remind li Onorab, please.

Mikro mon krwar.

HON REGINA ESPARON Mersi Mr Chair.

Mr Chair enn bann current challenges, ou'n dir poudir i annan, ou bann lekipman i slow.

E mon vwar i annan en alokasyon 24milyon pour high tech equipment.

Eski sa, larzan ki, sa 24milyon i pou aste nouvo lekipman pou kapab overcome ou bann, ou challenges ki ou annan?

Ek ou bann lekipman ki dousman.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

PS.


PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mersi, mersi Onorab.

An sa ki konsern, sa bann lo ‘current challenges ‘sa premye pwen.

Nou'n, nou pe viv ek en bann sityasyon bann processing recording systems sometimes i let nou down en pe.

kot nou nou e I en pe slow e nou bezwen tanzantan ganny lasistans pou nou kapab travay, pour met li azour.

Zisteman nou’n ganny Bidze pou nou kapab recruit sa ki nou apel system analyst.

I ava ede, fer prepar plan e ki mannyer nou pou go about pg.
40 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 pou nou deal avek sa bann, avek sa challenge.

Non, alokasyon sa 24.6milyon sa i annan pou fer, tou avek the biometric passport project, ki parey Minis in fer resorti, sa i en proze ki, nou pe ale full speed ahead, nou’n gannyen serten delay ki nou, nou admet.

E si tou keksoz i mars comme il faut, according to plan, by lafen lannen sa proze i bezwen kapab ariv lo son lipye.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Andre.

HON CLIFFORD ANDRE Mersi, Mr Chair.


Mr Chair, mon premye kestyon i lo latab 2.

Letan nou get latab 2.

Minis nou vwar i dir nou i annan bann receipt ki Gouvernman i fer, transfer to Consolidated Fund.

I annan Civil Status ID, fee.

marriage, Ensidswit e mon pa vwar GOP.

Mon ti a kontan ganny klarifikasyon akoz napa GOP oubyen si i annan GOP i bezwen i pe ganny kasyet deryer en lot head, akoz li osi i anmenn en reveni dan pei.

Sa premye.
Sa premye.

Immigration fee, Eski ou Minister i fer en lot investigation oubyen zis i donn en GOP lo en sertifika ki lanplwa in donnen?

Akoz i annan bokou issue an referans avek sa ki arive.

lo Epi latab 5 mon dernyen sa, lo latab 5, lo latab 5 Mr Speaker, i met.

Sorry, table 8.

Table 8 - pa table 5, table 8.

I dir ki, mon pe zis fer sir mon ganny li byen Mr Speaker.
Ok, table 8, katriyenm pwen lo dernyen kot i met ‘’border controls, surveillance and processing.’’ Katriyenm pwen i dir percentage of cases being prosecuted is 1 percent.

Ki kalite case, akoz border control.

I annan diferan keksoz ki involve ladan.

Konmsi ki kalite case e akoz zis 1poursan.

Eski 1 poursan dan sa ki ou’n atrape.

Akoz i en pti pe konfizan la pou nou gete.

If it’s 1 percent of 100 percent of what you’ve caught, ki ou pe anmenn Ankour, be savedir nou annan en gro problenm.
Mon ti a kontan en pti leksplikasyon lo Akoz Bidze pe ganny la.

donnen pou sa.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Panel.

Dezyenm Minis se ki, ankor referans avek GOP, letan en dimoun i fer laplikasyon GOP i definitivman pou en travay.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi, Onorab.

Ou premye kestyon, wi lo receipts GOP i pg.

41 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Ministry tonm anba Immigration fees.

So, i enkli ladan.

Apre ou’n demann nou si nou fer due diligence lo GOPs.
Pou en serten degre wi.

Mannyer GOP i marse imigrasyon, GOPs i ganny kontrole konmela totalman par Ministry of Employment.

Ler of Employment in zistifye ki en dimoun en lakonpannyen i kapab annan en GOP, dan sa moman ki nou take over pou sa process, pou sa prosesis.

E i annan serten due diligence pou les clearance dan zot pei lorizin, ki sa bann dimoun i bezwen annan.

I annan medical, i annan tout sort kalite test station ki nou bezwen fer zot fer.

Zot kontra eksetera, eksetera.


kapab, i So, i annan due diligence ki ganny fer, me at the same time nou kontinyen sirvey dimoun lo GOP.

Akoz ou konnen ki mon pe remarke la, en dimoun i vin isi pou li travay.

Sa i son bi, mon oule travay, mon ganny peye.

Me ler i ariv dan pei i komans vwar lezot loportinite pou li fer plis ki zis sa travay ki in vin la pou li fer.

Parler i al marye, isi laba.

Apre bann lezot zafer.

So, i en keksoz konsernan e nou, nou annan osi sistenm profiling.
Nou bezwen profile dimoun ki annan tandans pou fer serten keksoz.

So toultan nou pe kit en lizye lo dimoun lo GOP.

E nou bezwen fer sa akoz sitasyon ler ou annan en gran group dimoun dan ou pei ki ou pa tro konnen zot byen, ou pe depann lo en lot dimoun, nou bezwen keep an eye lo sa sityasyon.

Lo kestyon border control, PS ou kapab reponn sa kestyon silvouple.

MR SPEAKER PS wi.

Lo poursantaz cases prosecuted.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mersi Mr Chair.

Mon krwar sa i poursantaz ki nou pe targete.


I en target ki inikman ki nou pe aim for.

MR SPEAKER Kekfwa ou ti a kapab eklersi si sa 1 poursan i en 1 poursan of what.

Mon krwar sa son kestyon.

PS, donn en repons silvouple.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mon pa tro konpran sa kestyon.

MR SPEAKER Rephrase please, yes.

HON CLIFFORD ANDRE Avek rephrasing sa kestyon PS.

Si ou atrap 100 dimoun lo pg.

42 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 border ou prosekit zis enn, akoz i annan zis 1 poursan.
Savedir 1 dan 100.

Eski i pa fer en sans.

I apel en gaspiyaz larzan.

Mr Chair, apre mon ti annan zis en klarifikasyon ankor pou mwan demann Minis.

Mon a fer en sel la koman mon annan micro.

MR SPEAKER Please, wi.

HON CLIFFORD ANDRE Minister, ou’n dir ki poudir GOP i tonm dan Immigration fees.

I enkli dan Immigration fees.

I enkli kwa?

What percentage of what it includes oubyen fees se Immigration GOP.

Konpran, se sa ki mon ti pe demande mwan.

Mon’n vwar Immigration fees.

Mersi.


avek MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel, i annan 2 pwen la.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mersi, Mr Chair.

Mersi Onorab.

Sa Immigration fees la, GOP i tonm.

It’s the whole of GOP fees.

Par egzanp ler ou pe gete nou pe ganny pou maryaz, ou pe ganny pou lagrikiltir, bann ki marye ek Seselwa.

Bann dimoun ki marye ek Seselwa ordinerman zot ganny en 50 percent discount lo zot GOP fees.

Sports osi zot annan zot Polisi.

Apre First, second, third players.


Ok, apre pou FSA, offshore i annan zot, i annan de ka ki zot pey en special fee R10,000.

Religion, education zot pa pey preski naryen.

Apre i annan bann Dependent endorsement.

endorsement, savedir ler ou pe - i annan en dimoun ki pe anmenn son bann dependent isi, i met lo sa permi travay.

fee i konpri bann duplication.

Si en dimoun i oule en permi ki in perdi son permi, i oule en lot duplication.

Ou annan student permit anba la apre ou annan visitors extension.
Visitors extension i bann dimoun ki’n.

parey zot konnen, 3 mwan ou reste pou naryen, apre 3 mwan.

Sak 3 mwan en dimoun i pey R5000 pou fer son extension.

Mersi.

Immigration MR SPEAKER Ok, mersi.

Wi, lo size 1 percent Minis ou’n par?

Wi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Yes, Mr Speaker.

Mon ti a kontan reponn an zeneral lo indicators.

performance Bomaten mon ti dir zot mon osi mon pa tro happy mannyer bann performance indicators in ganny fer.

Because i pa donn pou sa outcome ki ou anvi.


Si ou kalkil intercepted fortified pg.

43 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 documents pe vini, ou napa en kontrol lo la e ou kapab ganny zero pou en lannen.

So, i pa en performance sa.

Persons paying admitted in the country.

Again i conditional tousala.

So, i, ou pa kapab met en performance indicator lo en keksoz ki ou devret napa en kontrol lo la, ki pa ou lenerzi ki’n kree sa sityasyon.
la, So, tou sa bann sityasyon, whether you are proceeding a case or not.

I depan lo sa case.

So, sa bann performance indicators pa zis dan ki nou pe gete lo enn de bann departman ki anba mwan, ki mon krwar nou pou bezwen re vwar ladan.

Fer li pli anliny ek dimoun ki pou produce plis.

E i bezwen en keksoz, nou travay for, ou performance indicators i montre ki sa pe increase ouswa dan sa fason.

Me mannyer nou swazir li i bezwen ganny revwar.

Mersi.
Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Onorab mon ti a sizere ki si panel napa en repons direk lo 1 percent of what, ki zot kontinyen regarde e dan le cour la matinée là si zot come up avek en leksplikasyon zot kapab sinyal nou silvouple, pou nou kapab move on, ok. Mersi, e Onorab Lemiel.

HON SYLVANNE LEMIEL Mersi, Mr Chair.

Bonzour Minis avek ou delegasyon.

Bonzour tou dimoun.

Minis mon pe get dan ou plan stratezik, ou’n koz en pti pe lo sa e-passport project.

Mon ti a kontan konnen ki zistans zot in arive avek.
Si, i reste zot ankor bokou louvraz pou fer.

Eski i annan larzan dan Bidze ki’n ganny mete la pou zot konplet sa travay?

la egzakteman ki Apre sa nou vwar ki petet ti a bon nou ganny en pti pe lo sa kote border control la, ok. Petet i annan dimoun i pe demande bann travay egzakteman ki zot fer kot i konsern bann border control e zot pe dir ki zot bezwen ranforsi sekirite nasyonal.

sa ranforsisman sekirite nasyonal, eski zot pe koz i bezwen zot plis mendev?
Si wi, ki kantite dimoun, eski Bidze in fer provizyon pou sa, sa lannen?

Dan Ler nou pe regard zot, anba sub-programme 2.1.

Mon al anba ‘other uses of goods and services’ i annan en rent.

I ti 88 mil avan, la in mont 177mil.

Petet mon pe rode akoz sa logmantasyon antan ki kalite rent zot pe peye?

En rent lofis, rent lakaz.

Donn nou en pti pe plis detay lo sa rent please.

Mersi.

pg.

44 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MR SPEAKER Mersi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab Lemiel.


Mon a reponn enn de kestyon, apre ou a reponn lo sa area of the rent.

Lo ou kestyon pastoral care ki ou’n mansyonn mwan.

Byen, nou pe progre byen ek sa.

In fact mon menm ek PS Melanie, nou ti vizit en plas la deryer kot Le Vecher e nou’n ekrir the new Bishop pou nou kapab servi zot landrwa.

E nou annan en devwar provide shelter anba nou persons commitment ‘sa i annan en Bidze dan immigration pou sa.
So, sa pe mars byen e nou pe parey i pa zis Imigrasyon, i osi an relasyon ek Minister Social Affairs.

So, nou pe travay ek zot pou sa.

‘trafficking information Lo kestyon enhancement of border control.

An se moman sistenm advance sa la ki passenger vreman Minister Lasante pe servi pou bann rezon COVID, i annan osi bann fasilite lo sa sistenm pou ed profile dimoun ki kapab pe border bann sityasyon krim, bann keksoz ilegal dan zot vwayaz.
Me plis detay lo la i en keksoz ki nou kapab koz ek zot security grouping.

Me yes, nou pe travay for lo la e nou pe enhance sa bann profiling ability ki donn nou serten lenformasyon avan en dimoun i vin isi, ki tendency sa dimoun i kapab annan lo kestyon sekirite.

Mon a pas ek PS pou reponn sa kestyon lo rent.

PS.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

PS.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mersi, an se ki konsern rent.


Parey nou tou nou okouran i annan 25 percent rediksyon ki tou bann lorganizasyon dan servis piblik i pe obzerve e i a nou prezan pou ale al negosye avek sa bann propriyeter pou kapab ganny en meyer pri.

E nou nepli, nou annan en decrease, akoz osi akoz nou nepli pe lwe Ocean Gate House.

Ocean Gate House kot Civil Status, nou’n sorti dan sa pe landrwa, kot occupied Independence House, ground floor kot nou annan sa customer service.
prezan nou isi anba E osi an se ki konsern Praslin ek La Digue, nou annan lofis laba osi ki nou pe peye.

Pou biometric passport.

Ki zistans nou’n avek biometric passport, la nou dan en evaluation stage.

Ou a rapel letan nou ti’n fini ganny go arive pg.

45 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 ahead pou fer sa passport, sa proze.

Nou ti set up en Committee ki ti fer en plan travay e sa plan travay in anmenn nou ziska kot nou’n anmenn sa bann bidders, nou’n advertise sa proze lo website.
Nou’n ganny bann bidders, bann bidders in vin isi pou en pre tender meeting.

Sa ti fer an 2019.

Ver lafen 2019 zot ti vin fer pre tender meeting, ki ti ganny swivi par opening - tender opening.

Zot tou zot ti ganny sans prezant zot proze Fevriye, 2020.

Apre, the next phase dan sa proze sete dapre tender documents, sete bann zofisye isi lo evaluation committee al deor, al fer site visit.

Get zot sistenm prodiksyon ensidswit.


E parey nou tou nou kapab apresye, sa sityasyon pandemik pa’n allow sa pou arive.

Alor nou ti pou bezwen go back to the POU, Procurement demann Unit, Oversight permisyon en fer pou comme quoi ki addendum prezan nou ava fer sa ki nou pou apel en virtual site visit.

Savedir zot ava submit zot bann videos pou nou kapab gannyen pou evalye.

So nou’n fini ekrir zot.


Parey nou pe dir, tou keksoz pe fer avek approval e konsantman POU e tou, the deadline ki zot in gannyen se lafen mars, well dan 2 semenn nou ava ganny tou sa bann videos pou nou view.

E parey mon’n dir, si tou keksoz i al byen nou sipoze kapab siny kontra sometimes middle of the year avek proze ariv an son term ver lafen lannen.

Akoz nou’n ganny lenformasyon comme quoi proze i kapab bouze e ganny konplete a 5 a 6 mwan.

La zistans ki nou’n arive lo sa nivo passport biometric.
Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi PS.

Onorab Woodcock.

Sorry, ou annan klarifikasyon, wi.

Silvouple fer li vit.

HON SYLVANNE LEMIEL Mersi.

Mr Chair, si mon ganny en konpran byen PS.

I pe mean sa ogmantasyon, en pe gran ogmantasyon dan rent i pou cater pou bann lofis Praslin, La Digue si ou annan e an menm tan kot Independence House kot zot pe servi?

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

PS, wi.

Mr Elizabeth i oule pran sa?

IMMIGRATION MICHEL CHIEF OFFICER ELIZABETH Thank you, Mr Chairman.

Sa annefe nou annan 3 landrwa ki pg.


46 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 nou lwe.

Nou annan en biro La Digue ok, ki apartyen a Mr Carl Mills.

Carl Mills.

Apre nou annan biro Praslin ki dan Pension Fund Complex.

Apre nou annan en gran store ki nou lwe avek Pension Fund Complex lo Providence, ki nou met tou nou bann rikord ladan.

Ok, mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Woodcock.

HON WAVEL WOODCOCK Mon Mersi, Mr Speaker.


premye kestyon i kot i konsern progranm 3 border control services, sub program 2.

Kot zot annan en trafficking in person control services ki zot rol i pou detekte, report e osi konbat human trafficking Sesel.

Me ler nou pe get rapor lo trafficking in person, 2020, i montre poudir Sesel i lo tier 2 watchlist e ki nou pa pe comply avek Trafficking Victims Protection Act.

Alors mon kestyon i pou tir nou sa ranking ki nou ete, pou nou improve nou ranking.
Ki ou Minister i anvizaze fer pou improve nou pozisyon lo sa rapor?

lot Dezyenmman, mon kestyon i konsern kot zisteman ki en i Gouvernman an partenarya avek plizyer Minister, sirtou ou annan lager Minister.

Minister Imigrasyon, pou konbat en pe sa, kont trafik drog Sesel.
E dan Lartik 23 (1) i annan en provizyon, dan Lartik 23 (1) ki dir ki ‘Any person who in the opinion of the Minister is, by his presence or his conduct, likely to be a danger to peace and good order in Seychelles may be deported from Seychelles pursuant to a warrant under the hand of the Minister’.

Savedir en Minis ki dan son lopinyon en dimoun i kapab, son prezans oubyen son conduct i kapab threaten ou met an danze lape lo ou pei.

I kapab pran en desizyon pou deport sa dimoun.


E mon kestyon mon pe demann sa, akoz even boner en Manm in koz lo la, kot nou’n vwar i annan serten dimoun ki pe kestyonn desizyon ki ou Minister in pran menm si zot pe siport eskobar.

Menm si dan zot distrik in ariv lo en nivo alarman.

Nou’n tann Onorab Vidot koz lo la pli boner.

Ok. E Mr Speaker, mon kestyon … (Interruption) MR SPEAKER Silvouple, les li demann son kestyon.

pg.
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47 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 pa anvi vwar HON WAVEL WOODCOCK Mon kestyon i eski angiz pou konbat kont drog or pou.

Akoz nou en Gouvernman ki pe soutir i eskobar, mon konnen ki annan en bann ki’n soutire.

Ki’n ganny sponsored dan letan eleksyon lepase, sirtou Roche Caiman.

(Interruption) MR SPEAKER Onorab Silvouple, Onorab.

Woodcock, eskiz mwan.

Al lo ou kestyon e evite mansyonn latab dimoun silvouple!

Poz ou kestyon si ou krwar i relevan.

Mersi.


lot kote lo HON WAVEL WOODCOCK Ok, Mr Speaker.

Mon pou aret koz lo dalon entel.

So, alor Mr Speaker, mon kestyon i eski dan lefitir an giz pou konbat kont drog.

Eski ou Minister, imigrasyon i annan lentansyon servi sa menm Immigration Decree pou deport bann etranze ki zot konportman ouswa zot latitid, sa ki zot pe fer i met nou pep, nou sitwayen an danze?

Sirtou an danze kont labi sibstans, an danze drog ki pe afekte nou bann zenn e nou bann zanfan ozordi.
Mersi, bokou Mr Speaker.

(Off-Mic) MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab avan ou terminen mon a demann ou pou retir referans ki ou’n fer avek dimoun dan sa lasal.

Retract.

HON WAVEL WOODCOCK Mr Speaker, mon ava retract sa ki mon’n dir lo Onorab Vidot i dalon avek….. MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Minis ou kapab posede avek sa silvouple.

(Interruption) MR SPEAKER Ale, in retract.

Onorab Vidot mon espekte in fer referans avek ou, wi.

Mon’n demann li pou retract.

Nou bezwen termin lo sa size.

Ale, fer ou pwen.


Onorab Vidot, fer ou pwen silvouple.

HON AUDREY VIDOT Mr Speaker.

Onorab Woodcock pa fer premye fwa i fer sa komanter.

Zis pou retract i pa ase.

I merit apologise akoz si i konnen i napa okenn laprev lo mwan i pa kapab vini, zis vin fer bann lakizasyon.

I pa sorti pg.

48 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 byen, i pa kapab kontinyen koz lalang avek piblik!
(APPLAUSE) MR SPEAKER Bon, mon evit bann Manm pou remarke, mon’n deza fer sa komanter avan.

Fer referans avek en Manm dan Lasanble i anmenn kontrovers akoz sa dimoun i bezwen defann son lekor.

Alors mon pe demann zot evite fer li silvouple.

Pour le moman.

Pour lemoman.

(Interruption) MR SPEAKER Silvouple.

Nou ava arete!

Mon pa vwar, mon pa pou demann Onorab Woodcock pou fer en apologies Selman mon demann li, note pou dir in mal fer.

Ok. la.

Nou a kontinyen avek repons Minis.


MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi, Mr Speaker.

Mon ava pran sa dernyen kestyon Onorab Woodcock.

Mon’n fini fer en komanter lo bann zafer PI, deportasyon.

So, mon krwar mon’n dir e selman si fason nou deal ek bann narcotics i zis PI, non, non.

I annan diferan swa ou kapab servi depandan lo taktik ki nou pou servi.

So, i pa neseserman zis koman ou fer sa ou fer PI.

PI i en keksoz ki stratezik osi.

So, me selman mon’n fini fer mon komanter lo la.


Lo ou lot pwen Onorab, ki ou ti fer lo trafficking persons ki nou lo tier 2 pe al lo 3 la, si nou pa bouz.

E en gran bouzman lo la se ki nou pa ti’n meet as a committee.

Tou sa bann devwar i enportan e rikorde e les raport sa eksetera, eksetera.

Me nou’n fini meet e dan sa manda, dan sa bann louvraz ki nou annan pou fer ek TIP i vreman en gro louvraz.
ek UNODC, Akoz ou bezwen annan training pou diferan dimoun ki deal ek sa kalite ensidan ki kapab aprann devan zot.

Ou bezwen nurse, ou bezwen teachers, ou bezwen lapolis.

Ou bezwen officers, Customs Immigration officers, teachers.

Tousala.

Savedir i annan en gran louvraz pou nou fer e nou pe travay lo la.

Mon kontan ki dan mon Bidze ki mon’n demande sa i en post ki mon’n gannyen.
Akoz ki mon’n inherit, apart from en bon louvraz ki PS Melanie ti ape fer dan area Social Affairs, ti napa en dimoun koumsa pou fer sa louvraz.

E menm mon pe al recruit li la sa semenn.

Mon’n pg.

49 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 fek ganny tou sa bann zafer ek DPA pou mwan fer sa.

So, nou an retar.

Me selman mon krwar nou kapab catch up, me sa louvraz en gran louvraz.
Mon hope par sa lannen, mon ti fer en conference call ek US Embassy, Maurice pou diskit egzakteman lo sa bann issues, nou pe ganny lasistans ek zot, kot nou kapab osi gannyen.

So zis mon pe dir ou nou pe travay for pou ki nou pa tonm dan 3.

Mersi pou sa.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Sandy Arissol.

HON SANDY ARISSOL Mersi, Mr Speaker.

Bonzour Minis ankor enn fwa avek ou nouvo delegasyon ki la.
Mr Speaker, mon ti a kontan letan Minis i koz lo PI, donn Minis mon sipor an relasyon avek sa lensidan ki ti arive, kot en etranze ti ganny mete lo avyon e ganny deporte dan nou pei.

(APPLAUSE) HON SANDY ARRISOL An relasyon avek bann aktivite ki ou’n mansyonnen, ki tou dimoun i koz lo la.

Ki pa bon pou nou pei, pa bon pou nou zenn e pa bon pou nou distrik.

Sa i mon komanter.
Sa i mon komanter.

Mon kestyon ki mon ti a kontan demann Minis, se letan ou’n koz lo PI, eski anba zot Bidze nou annan okenn larzan ki fer ki okenn dimoun dan distrik, en etranze.

Par egzanp mon annan enn dan mon distrik Bel Ombre.

Ki in marye avek en Seselwa e pour lemoman i zis la pe fofile dan distrik, i pe fer bann aksyon dezordonnen dan nou distrik e i ekstorsyon, fer pe menm demann dimoun larzan.

Bann aksyon anti sosyal nou apel sa.


Eski anba ou Bidze nou annan larzan, pou ki sa bann dimoun, pou ki menm sa madanm ki menm sa madanm ki in marye avek nepli enterese avek li.

Mon krwar in ganny kontak avek ou biro.

Pou nou kapab ankor enn fwa fer sa bann dimoun retourn dan zot pei?

(APPLAUSE) HON SANDY ARISSOL Eski anba Bidze i annan sa larzan pou ki sa bann dimoun ki vin donn poum dan nou pei la, i retourn kot zot.

Mon premye kestyon.

Mon dezyenm kestyon mon ti a kontan demande.


Se eski Bidze, mon vwar zot Bidze i fer provizyon pou bann konsiltan.

Eski mon ti a kontan pg.

50 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 konnen lekel bann konsiltan ki pe travay avek ou, anba imigrasyon pou ou Bidze.

in E dezyenmman lo pwen ki Onorab Lemiel leve an relasyon avek passport, bio metric passport la.

Eski letan nou pe ganny sa passport, eski nou passport i pou aret 4an edmi, i pou vin 10an ?
Oubyen nou pe pey en biometric passport be selman i pou still valid pou 4an edmi olye 5an parey nou peye?

Mersi bokou.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Minis, panel.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi, Mr Speaker.

Mon ava reponn sa premye kestyon lo kestyon si mon annan ase budget pou fer nou bann louvraz ki nou bezwen.

The budget ki nou annan i ase.

Akoz sa i pa pou en gran louvraz pou fer sa.

I zis Nou annan lenformasyon.

Lapolis, nou annan diferan nou agencies lenformasyon.
Manm piblik e dek ki ou investigate nou annan nou bann sityasyon, nou kapab fer sa.

Nou pa bezwen en gran budget pou fer sa.

Nou bezwen zis sa will pou fer sa bann desizyon.

E sa bann sityasyon i plito parey mon’n dir lo desizyon sa.

donn ki Ou kapab annan tou ou budget, si i annan en sityasyon ki pa bon pou pei, ou gete ou kontinyen gete, ou kontinyen gete ou pa fer naryen.

Annou ou budget, pa neseser.

So, desizyon i enportan ki nou fer sa.


Me selman ou bezwen fer li osi balanse ek realite, ek okenn sityasyon ki napa viktimizasyon.

Ou pran ou desizyon byen lo la.

Lo kestyon biometric lo kantite letan.

Reponn sa enn en pti kou.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mersi, Minis.

Mersi, Mr Chair.

An se ki konsern biometric, nou passport ki aktyelman i en passport 5an, i pou bouz lo 10an.

Ok, e correspondingly ou pou bezwen annan plis paz.

Sorti 32 paz pou al 48 paz.


Savedir sa i ede avek bann frequent travellers e osi nou pou annan passport pou bann zanfan.

Bann kids up to 12an.

Zot, zot pou reste lo 32 paz.

So pri passport li menm sa i en konsiltasyon ki pou bezwen ganny fer avek Minister Finans.

So an se ki konsern sa consultancy sa i annan pou fer avek fumigation of nou bann documents.

Ou konnen par egzanp nou annan nou bann documents Civil Status ki nou bezwen met li an eta e nou pg.
51 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 annan en consultant pou fer sa.

Mersi.

Mon kapab donn ou plis detay apre Onorab.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Klarifikasyon, wi.

larepons.

HON SANDY ARISSOL Mr Speaker.

Mersi Minis avek PS pou ou Mr Speaker, mon ti anvi zis en konfirmasyon avek Minis pou dir sa ka spesifik ki mon pe koz ek ou Bel Ombre, si nou ganny tou bann dokiman neseser, i annan Bidze pou nou met sa dimoun, pou fer li ale avek sa bann dezord ki pe fer dan distrik Bel Ombre e dan pei ?
Mon premye kestyon.

Dezyenm kestyon pou PS an relasyon avek konsiltan.

Mon ti a kontan konnen lekel sa konsiltan silvouple?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Minis konfirmasyon?

ou pou donn sa MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Konfirmasyon i la, zis anvoy neseser.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

PS.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mon pa konnen si mon annan drwa nonm non dimoun.

Selman i en nonmen Laurence.

MR SPEAKER Kekfwa i kapab donn ou non sa konsiltan an prive.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Wi, wi.


MR SPEAKER Mon pa konnen, ki pratik normalman letan i annan sa bann kestyon?

Onorab Leader Lopozisyon ou abitye … HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY Mr Mersi, Mr Chairman.

Chairman, si i relevan avek son kestyon ki in demande, napa naryen pou kasyet.

MR SPEAKER Non, mwan mon ti a dir.

Ok, mon pa konn pratik Lasanble.

Me mon ti a dir si PS i santi poudir i annan en rezervasyon lo donn sa konsiltan, mon a kapab aksepte sa.
Selman an zeneral mon ti a dir ki Lasanble i piblik e sa i en kestyon public service.

So, si napa okenn keksoz ki anpes mon ti a dir donn sa non silvouple.

Mersi.

PS wi.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE pg.

52 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Mersi, Mr Chair.

Mon ti pe mazinen kekfwa mon bezwen ganny en permisyon avek sa dimoun li menm.

Me selman mon kapab nonmen.

I apel Mr Joe Laurence, fer sa konsiltasyon pou digitalize sa bann lekipman.

Mersi.

i pe MR SPEAKER Mersi.


Ok. HON SANDY ARISSOL Non pa’n tro kler.

Non pa’n tro kler letan in koze.

Non pa’n kler.

Mon pa’n konpran.

Selman mon ti a kontan letan ou’n fer en referans, Leader avek demann Lopozisyon.

Nou osi lo sa kote latab nou ti a kontan dir poudir nou ki vot Bidze pou sa bann antite, so letan nou demann kestyon nou bezwen ganny larepons.

Ki i lo non, ki i lo saler, ki i lo tou bann keksoz.

Parski pa bliye se nou ki deside si zot Bidze i pase oubyen non.
MR SPEAKER Mon’n demann Aksepte.

Leader parey Lopozisyon souvan mon demann LGB pou son advice lo en pwen prosedir e se sa ki’n arive.

Leader Lopozisyon nou a les sa tonbe silvouple.

Nou pe kontinyen.

Non, non nou’n fini lo la.

Mon’n ganny ase gidans.

Mon’n ganny ase gidans e PS in donnen sa non.

Good, nou a kontinyen.

Ok.

Non, repet sa non PS.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Joe Laurence.

MR SPEAKER Ok, mersi.

Ale, ase lo la.

Nou a kontinyen avek Onorab Aglae.

HON EGBERT AGLAE Mersi Mr Chair.


Bonzour Minis ek PS.

Premye kestyon.

Minis ouswa PS, Prezidan ti fer en statement comme quoi Lartik 5(1) anba Konstitisyon kot i konsern donn sitwayennte i pa pou servi.

Eski ou lofis ouswa Minister annan diskisyon avek Biro Attorney Zeneral pou en lamannman dan Lalwa ki Gouvern sa aksyon?
anmenn deza in Dezyenmman Minis, eski ou ti kapab petet dir nou vi ki zot in komans en travay lo the new GOP framework, kan eski sa pou vin an mars mon kapab dir, an vi ki i annan serten konsern lo size GOP ki pe ganny eksprimen par biznes li menm, e i annan bann ki’n pri Sesel.

Etranze ki’n pri Sesel ki pa pe kapab travay.

Kan petet nou kapab vwar sa nouvo framework vin devan Lasanble pg.

53 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 li menm li pou nou kapab osi donn nou blessing lo la?
E dernyerman Minis, an vi COVID-19, nou sityasyon konnen i deza annan bann etranze ki pe work ouswa k i napa GOP e zot pa pe kapab ganny rapatriye dan zot pei akoz lafrontyer i fermen.

Petet dan sa laliny, zot ti’n deza.

Gouvernman donn 3mwan ekstansyon.

An vi ki sa 3mwan ekstansyon mon krwar pe ekspire, ki plan ou Minister pou sa bann dimoun ki pe tonm dan sa bann kategori ki ankor isi Sesel, me ki pa pe kapab kit pei e ki pa dan en lanplwa ouswa ki pe travay san en GOP osi?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.


Minis.

in ek terms MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi, Onorab Aglae pou ou kestyon.

Premyerman GOP framework i en size Minister Lanplwa.

E of konsiltasyon bann anplwayer ek Chamber of Commerce, ek prive an zeneral i kontinyen.

Minister Lanplwa, si mon kapab koz zis en pti bout, akoz sa i son bout.

I annan son bann framework ki i swiv, me selman i fer sa toultan an konsiltasyon pou get bann ka bann sityasyon ki pe arive.
La par egzanp parey ou’n fek eksplike i annan serten pei petet ki napa flight ouswa i annan difikilte pou dimoun arive.

So nou’n asiste ziske Desanm e border i ouver la.

So si zot pa kapab al direk, zot still kapab al Dubai pou travel konmela.

So nou’n donn zot sa 3 mwan e i annan en moman ki ou bezwen arete e la in arete.

E si en dimoun i pa anvi kit son dimoun ki ti lo GOP dan pei, i bezwen fer son prosedir pou fer li ale.

Sa i son responsabilite.


Koman en biznesmenn, ou anmenn dimoun isi, ou annan sa responsabilite.

Si son GOP in run out, la i bezwen toudswit al kot Minister Lanplwa pou fer sir ki i posib pou renew, be si i pa kapab renew akoz i annan job pou en lot Seselwa fer, i pa’n ganny son GOP.

La i pou bezwen fer sa dimoun sorti.

So sa moman ki nou’n asiste, nou’n pase ladan la.

E tou dimoun in ganny averti byen boner ki mannyer sa bann keksoz zot ti kapab fer.

So ti annan ase letan pou zot fer sa.


So alors tou bann ka GOP i pas devan Minister la Employment e sa i zot domenn, sa i zot louvraz e nou osi, parey mon’n eksplike pli boner nou, nou fer the process once sa in ganny approved.

Mersi.

pg.

54 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab John Hoareau.

Sorry, ou annan klarifikasyon.

Ale, vitman.

HON EGBERT AGLAE Lo size 5(1).

Yeah, 5(1) MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Oh, wi.

5(1) nou pe koz lo i citizenship.


prerogative lo Prezidan.

Sa i depan fer sa li pou prerogative.

Me napa okenn .. Ou’n demann mwan si i annan en diskisyon ek AG lo la?

lo li MR SPEAKER Klarifye, Onorab wi.

li HON EGBERT AGLAE Mersi.

Mon kestyon i, Prezidan in dir poudir i pa pou servi 5(1) anba Konstitisyon ki i donn li, sa prerogative pou issue citizenship dan Lalwa, anba Lalwa.
E mon pe demande si in annan en konsiltasyon avek AG’s Office pou fer lamannman dan Lalwa ouswa pou tir li anba nou Lalwa pou ki i pa a ganny servi parey Prezidan in swete, in dir i pa pou servi.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA reponn sa.

PS ou kapab Selman mannyer mon vwar in fer son komanter e sa i son swa.

Sa ki dan 5(1) i la li, i pa’n dir i pou sanz sa li.

Zis i dir li i pa pou servi sa.

MR SPEAKER Ok. PS ou annan klarifikasyon pou mete lo la.
PS ALAIN VOLCERE Non, mersi Mr Chair.

Zis pou add pou dir sa ki very much on the cards pou sa lannen se sa legzersis pou fer amannman Citizenship Act, ok?

So, i annan en bann issues ki pou leve e i ava annan loportinite pou adres bann issues parey sa osi.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Hoareau.

HON JOHN HOAREAU Mersi, Mr Speaker.

Mr Chair.

Bonzour tou dimoun ki pe ekoute.

Mon kestyon i baze lo nou passport biometric ki en proze ki zot pe al antreprann.
Petet pou konsonmasyon piblik mon ti a kontan ki zot donn en pti leksplikasyon lo lavantaz lo nivo sekirite premyerman.

E lavantaz an term compliance avek bann norm enternasyonal ki i fer ki sa i zistifye sa depans pg.

55 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 24.6milyon ki nou pe met ladan.
Dezyenm, mon ti ava lo kote human kontan ki trafficking, si zot donn nou en detay konbyen dimoun ki annan dan zot annan dan zot detention centre e konbyen lannen oubyen konbyen letan sa bann dimoun i la dan sa detention centre pending trial ?

E konbyen dimoun osi ki pe travay dan sa seksyon Human Trafficking?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel.

PS.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mersi, Mr Chair.


An se ki konsern sa proze biometric passport, i bon petet nou vwar la rezon, akoz nou’n pran en desizyon pou anbark lo sa proze.

Akoz aktyelman sistenm ki nou pe issue passport, the issuant system ki egziste an se moman.

Nou kapab dir in outdated menm absoli.

E napa okenn sipor, napa okenn lasistans for it at the moment.

I plis ki 15an, depi 2004 e sa i en rezon ki’n compel nou, pou nou bouz lo sa proze.
Akoz nou bezwen met nou osi anliny avek sa 120tenn pei dan lemonn ki deza pe servi sa sistenm.

E nou konstate ki i annan apepre anviron 500 milyon e-passports biometric passport or sirkilasyon mondyalman.

an E parey nou pe dir osi, nou’n dir pli boner poudir nou bezwen, dan en sityasyon kot lemonn pe vin deplizanpli stringent.

Deplizanpli sever lo kontrol zot bann frontyer.

Alors nou bezwen osi sanz gir.

Monte, antre avek sa passport biometric.


Akoz sa i pou zwe en gran rol fer nou achieve nou lobzektif sirtou dan, pou sekiriz lidantite dimoun.

i tou Bon an gran son bann benefis se ou pou enhance sa security.

Akoz dan biometric passport mon kapab dir i annan en embedded chip ladan ki i kontenir 3 eleman.

Son premye eleman se lenformasyon, sa ki nou apel biographical detay ki paret lo paz 3 lo ou passport.

Kot ou annan lenformasyon, ou portre.

Date of issue, ensidswit, ou sinyatir.


Sa osi i paret koman en eleman lo sa chip.

E apre i annan tou sa bann eleman sekirite ki nou’n koz recognition.

Eye risk, ou lizye apre finger print byensir.

E apre nou annan sa ki nou apel en digital signature.

Sa i annan pou fer avek, i authenticate sa lenformasyon lo sa chip deza.

So lo nivo sekirite i pou en gran pa annavans.

savedir la, lo facial pg.


56 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Apre en biometric passport i ed ou dan ou VISA waiver progranm oubyen eligibility.

Savedir ozordi Sesel nou dir nou passport i for.

Savedir sa pwisans sa passport i baze lo sa ki nou apel en mobility score.

Savedir the passport, i kapab vizite san VISA.

VISA free.

lakantite pei ki the bearer of Sesel nou annan 151 pei ki en passport holder Seselwa i kapab ale e sa i plas nou venwityenm mondyal lo en index ki apel Henley.
Sa i met nou premye dan Lafrik, 3 plas devan Maurice ki 31tyem en lwen devan Botswana ki pei Afriken proper lo kontinan ki an tet.

Li i 62zyenm.

Alor, sa pozisyon Sesel, 28tyenm i tenir kont menm ki nou pa ankor VISA waiver facility avek bann pei Nor Lanmerik, par egzanp Leta-z- ini, Canada, menm Australie avek serten lezot pei dan Lazi.

E Lanmerik fer en in komitman, poudir bann pei ki pou partisip dan VISA waiver program avek li i bezwen annan en passport biometrik.
fini Donk, passport biometrik ki Sesel pou akeyir i pou met nou dan pozisyon ankor pli for pou nou kapab ganny bann dimoun ki pou negosye demen pou nou VISA waiver eligibility dan lezot pei.

Met zot dan en provizyon tre, tre for.

Alor sa se en pe bann benefis ki nou pou gannyen.

Mersi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA reponn Mr Speaker, pou Onorab Hoareau.

Pou reponn ou dezyenm kestyon lo TIP.

Napa, zot pa dan detention zot.

Zot dan shelter si ti annan okenn.

Ok, nou servi shelter Zot pa dan en pou zot.


detention centre.

Me nou napa personn dan shelter.

Nou napa en shelter pour lemoman, pou enstan.

Sanmenm sa nou an prosesis ek Levek, Le Vecher pou servi enn zot landrwa.

So nou pa ankor gannyen sa.

An se moman sa louvraz pe ganny fer avek la bon volonte serten NGOs ki okip, ed bann dimoun koumsa.

Me i en keksoz ki nou vreman deryer avek.

So ler nou ganny sa shelter la nou a kapab komans provide sa servis.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Romain.


HON GEORGE ROMAIN Bonzour Mersi, Mr Chair.

Minis ek ou lekip.

Minis mon ti anvi demann ou anvi ki mon’n tande dir ki Sesel byento son lekonomi, pei pe al ouver le 25 Mars.

E byensir nou’n tande pg.

57 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 dir bokou bann biznesmenn pe koz bokou lo bann zafer GOP pour lemoman.

Alors mon kestyon i koumsa ;- eski zot annan ase travayer pou kapab issue bann GOP e kantite letan apepre i pran pou issue en GOP?
Akoz mon’n ganny enn de dimoun ki’n dir mwan i pe pran en pe letan pou zot kapab ganny sa GOP.

Akoz pa bliye osi, zot bezwen fer demars avek bann lazans vwayaz, ek airline pou zot aste tiket avyon, pou zot fer sa dimoun deplase.

So i annan en process avan sa dimoun i kapab ariv Sesel.

Sa i enn.

Bidze 24 milyon.

Mon krwar sa i sa masin, sa bann lekipman ki zot pe koz lo la pou fer sa bann passport.

Mon kestyon i eski sa i sa pli bon deal ki zot in gannyen pou sa pri 24milyon?
Sa masin li menm li, akoz i bokou larzan.

Apre si zot kapab dir Lasanble apepre ki bor sa masin, sa lekipman li menm pe sorti?

Ki pei?

Zis mon ti a voudre konnen.

Mersi, Mr Chair.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel.

Apre mon dezyenm kestyon i trouve lo latab 7 ;- ‘consolidated programs expenditure estimates.’ Mon’n vwar ki ti annan en Bidze pou 2020 ki ti annan apepre R27milyon.

Apre byensir ti annan en revised budget ki 12 milyon.

Me pou 2021 mon vwar pe montre 36milyon.

En logmantasyon R8 milyon.


Eski Minis ti kapab sa eksplik nou Lasanble logmantasyon li menm li en pti pe ki savedir sa logmantasyon ?

Akoz apepre en R8milyon.

Si ou kapab eksplik en pti pe lo sa logmantasyon?

apepre MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi, Mr Speaker.

Mersi Onorab.

Mon pe sey get ou kestyon la.

Lo sa dernyen ki - Sa 24 pou sa biometric.

Me selman get quotations tou sa bann offerings avan.

Ok?

So, i ase, i annan ase akoz sa i dan deviz.


So, sa konponan i diferan akoz rate of exchange of lot fwa ek dernyen fwa in sanze.

bezwen nou So, i annan ase larzan pou kouvwar sa.

Selman nou kapab ganny obviously reduced depan lo negosyasyon.

Ou premye kestyon ti.

Apre mon dernyen Mr Chair, mon’n vwar anba ‘minor capital’, progranm 2 i annan en MR SPEAKER Lo travayer GOP.

Si ou annan ase.

pg.


58 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Ok, mon a reponn sa dan en moman.

Selman mon a donn en Polisi lo.

Mon krwar i enportan sa akoz piblik pe ekoute.

Parey mon’n dir zot, Minister Lanplwa i desid lo GOP, lekel ki kapab ganny GOP ouswa non, depan lo kategori, depan travayer Kreol, Seselwa.

Me o moman ki in deside ki ou kapab gannyen sa i strict sa.
Me o moman i deside ou kapab, ou entitled, nou, nou louvraz i pou fer keksoz as swift as possible.

lo Ou konnen, nou pe donn dimoun en servis la.

Nou pa la pou ser isi, ser laba.

Dek ki desizyon in ganny fer, prosesis isi i bezwen ganny fer vitman.

E sa i en keksoz ki toultan mon’n dir nou bann staff, nou bezwen be efficient ek sa piblik.

Mon krwar PS i ava donn en pti pe plis detay lo zot sistenm efficiency.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

PS.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mersi, Mr Chair.

Mersi Minis.


An se ki konsern GOP.

Pour lemoman nou annan sifizaman dimoun ki pe travay lo la.

Nou annan 6 dimoun, on average pran 25 laplikasyon par zour.

Apepre anviron en 150.

E sa ki mon krwar i enportan se ki ler dimoun i vin kot migrasyon anba, customer service, ou ganny sa ki nou apel en collection slip ki normalman pa al plis ki 5 zour.

Me selman i annan de moman kot ou pou ganny ou tar, GOP en pti pe pli senpleman akoz i annan issues avek ou lenplikasyon.
Petet i dokiman manke, annan ensidswit.

tro annord.

Keksoz pa Petet konplent ki kapab vini, petet kominikasyon.

I kapab annan en lapse dan kominikasyon kot ou ti a swete formen or ou’n ganny en whatever.

selman Me normalman for the bulk, la mazorite sa collection date i ganny respekte.

Mersi bokou.

MR SPEAKER Ti annan lo logmantasyon Bidze pou en item.

Onorab ti kwa?

en kestyon HON GEORGE ROMAIN Non, Mr Chair, sorry.

Mon ti pe koz lo GOP, byensir kantite letan i pran.

MR SPEAKER Wi, wi.
MR SPEAKER Wi, wi.

Sa in donnen.

HON GEORGE ROMAIN pg.

59 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Apre mon ti pe koz lo sa lekipman.

Mon krwar Minis in eksplike en pti pe.

Apre mon ti annan, en pti moman Mr Chair.

MR SPEAKER Ok, be si ou’n fini i byen.

Mon satisfe Onorab pa trakase.

Nou a carry on.

Onorab Gill.

HON CHURCHILL GILL Mersi, Mr Chair.

Bonzour Minis avek ou delegasyon.


Mon kestyon se biro Imigrasyon Praslin ti ganny bouze dan Pension Fund e nide deryer se pou zot ganny plis lespas apre pou replik bann servis ki zot donnen Mahe lo Praslin.

Eski sa legzersis pou replik bann servis parey Mahe, lo Praslin in konplete?

Si, non eski dan sa Bidze i annan larzan pou zot kapab konplet sa legzersis?

Apre eski lofis Praslin i annan en link ek lofis Mahe?
E mon dernyen kestyon se eski zot record keeping, parey nou tou nou konnen, Imigrasyon i kit en kantite lenformasyon.

Eski zot krwar kot zot pe kit zot rikord i secure enough, kot i bann garanti tou zot lenformasyon ki dan posesyon i pou reste secure ?

Mersi.

sa MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel.

Mr Elizabeth.

IMMIGRATION MICHEL CHIEF OFFICER ELIZABETH Mersi, Mr Chair.

Mersi Onorab.

An konsernen biro Praslin.

Pour lemoman biro Praslin pe mars ase byen parey nou ti anvizaze fer li.
Annefe nou ti fer li vin parey sa customer service centre ki nou annan lo Mahe, ki nou annan tou bann servis anba one roof.

Ok. E bann servis byensir i lye direk avek biro Mahe.

Akoz pour lemoman ou napa en masin pou fer passport Praslin.

Ou bezwen anmas tou laplikasyon anvoy Mahe.

Mahe i fer retournen par co mail.

E menm zafer avek pou bann lezot servis, parey GOP, lezot permi.

Tousala i ganny fer headquarters Mahe e mon krwar nou pe donn ase en bon servis.
Mon krwar en limit letan ki ou kapab ganny en passport lo Praslin i 5 zour e lezot servis mon krwar i annan en dekalaz kekfwa 2 semenn.

Mersi, MR SPEAKER Byen.

Wi, onorab Gill ou ti.

Wi.

HON CHURCHILL GILL Ti annan sa enn premye.

Sa enn ki’n dir mwan ki’n dir mwan i annan dekalaz 2 semenn.

Mon kestyon i eski dan sa Bidze pou pg.

60 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 sa bann ki annan dekalaz, i annan larzan ki zot in mete pou zot kapab tir sa dekalaz dan semen?
Apre pou rikord ou pa’n reponn.

Mon’n demande pou secure rikord, si zot krwar rikord i ase secure.

Donnen kalite rikord ki zot, zot kite.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Wi panel, lekel ki pou adres sa 2 pwen?

Mr Elizabeth, wi.

IMMIGRATION MICHEL CHIEF OFFICER ELIZABETH Mersi, Mr Chair.

Mersi Onorab.

Onorab laplipar bann rikord imigrasyon i digital.

Eksepte ki ou annan bann disembarkation card ki ler visitor i vini, in fini in fini ranpli.
Sa nou store li dan en warehouse Providence ki nou’n lwe e apre en 5an disi nou zafer avek zete.

passport.

laplikasyon Laplikasyon passport i en dokiman ki nou pa zet ditou e nou archive li.

Annefe ki nou fer nou, i ariv en serten letan ki bann nou laplikasyon passport archives.

Me pour lemoman archive i annan en kontrent lespas ki nou, nou ankor pe gard li ek Menm forward sa nou ziska ler nou pou fer li al kot archives.

servis Konsernan lo Praslin.


Ou konnen lo Praslin, la letan COVID nou annan en problenm kominikasyon.

Ok, ou annan bato ki pa pe operate toulezour.

Avyon pa pe operate toulezour e prezan ou bezwen esper ler, zour zot operate pou ou forward ou co mail.

E ler ou forward sa Mahe, i pran en pti git letan pou fer retournen ankor akoz sa zour ki ou pou fer retournen napa transportasyon.

E sa menm sa bann pti dekalaz ki mon ti pe koz lo la.
E apart sa lo kote Praslin, lo kote La Digue osi i mars tre byen e lo La Digue nou ankor pe donn sa servis kot lapos.

Kot en dimoun i kapab depoz son laplikasyon passport san pey okenn postage e son passport i retournen, i kolekte.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Wi, Onorab.

HON CHURCHILL GILL Wi, problenm se toultan keksoz Praslin i bezwen desann Mahe.

Mon kestyon ler mon demann ou si dan Bidze napa en provision.
Eski napa provizyon pou met en dimoun senior oubyen recruit en dimoun senior Praslin ki kapab otoriz sa pg.

61 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 bann keksoz pou evite annan sa monte Mahe, desann?

Akoz sa dan lepase, petet ti byen.

Me in ler pou nou komans gete kot i annan serten lotonomi ki serten kalite tranzaksyon i gannyen e recruit dimoun senior lo Praslin.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Mr Elizabeth, wi.

IMMIGRATION MICHEL CHIEF OFFICER ELIZABETH Mersi, Mr Chair.

Mersi Onorab.
Mersi Onorab.

Annefe nou annan en dimoun senior lo Praslin.

Me selman ou konnen sa dimoun pa tro lontan in pran sa pozisyon.

E ki nou pe fer pour lemoman sa dimoun i pe held against the post as a senior Immigration officer e i pe ganny training lo Mahe.

I desann Mahe preski, mon krwar en fwa letan.

I pe fer en certificate of Immigration studies.

E mon mazinen ler i pou konplet son studies i pou kapab louvraz korekteman.

Mersi.

fer sa MR SPEAKER Mersi.


Onorab mon annan plizyer dimoun lo lalis, alor nou pou bezwen prolong kestyon apre midi e nou a pran en poz la e nou a re pran 2er.

Mersi.

(BREAK) MR SPEAKER Bonn apre midi tou dimoun, pou nou kontinyen.

Nou a komans avek Onorab Romain.

Pa lo la, ok ou ti lo la.

Onorab Arissol alors, Phillip.

HON PHILIP ARISSOL Mersi, Mr Speaker.

Bonn apre midi tou dimoun.

Mon kestyon i baze lo Seksyon 4 ‘approved new spending initiative.’ Latab 4.
Nou vwar ki zot pe fer rekritman nouvo staff e osi pe entrodwi nouvo teknolozi pou asir sekirite e kontrol lo nou lafrontyer.

Eski panel i kapab dir nou Lasanble si sa rekritman pe osi enkli bann zofisye ki pou ede detekte, e fer bann prosedir deportasyon imigran ilegal dan pei?

bann Ki kantite ofisyel zot pe mazinen pou rekrite?

E si Minis ti kapab dir nou ki kantite imigran ilegal i annan dan pei an se moman?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Panel.

PS, wi.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mersi Mr Chair.


Bonn apre midi tou dimoun.

An se ki konsern ki mannyer nou pou.. Eskiz mwan, repet mwan sa pg.

62 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 bout lo training, border control.

Capacity building.

ki plan Wi nou annan en training plan, pardon.

Nou annan en nou’n training konsevwar e dan sa training plan i annan pou fer avek travay avek nou bann partner dan law enforcement.
Nou annan serten training ki nou pe gannyen avek detrwa pei etranze e sirtou training ki pe vini tre byento.

Nou sipoze avek UNODC e sa i ava ede dan sa demars ki annan pou fer avek kestyon Onorab.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Wi, Onorab.

HON PHILIP ARISSOL Wi, bon.

Mon ti a kontan konnen osi ki kantite imigran ilegal ki annan dan pei an se moman.

Sa ou pa ti ankor reponn.

Mersi.

annan sityasyon ki aircraft zot GOP pe run out ouswa in fek run out e zot pe esper pasaz aircraft pou zot sorti dan pei.
I annan ki pe esper renouvle GOP.

Me o moman ki ou GOP i fini, i pop up, i ganny flag koman expired.

Ok?

So pa tou dimoun ki expired GOP ki nou pa konnen ki pe arive.

So, zot dan sa prosesis e i annan apepre 10 poursan nou GOP, dimoun lo GOP la ki lo sa bout expired GOP.

E mainly to do ek sa bann zafer close borders dan serten pei eksetera.

Dan sa bann area.

Me tou sa la i anba kontrol e o moman ki en bann pe ganny negosye still ek Minister Lanplwa, si sa pa arive zot pa gannyen.
Sa bann dimoun pe sorti, pe ale.

So, i 10 poursan ki anba kontrol, ki nou annan lo la.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Wi.

Panel, lekel ki pe reponn?

Silvouple sinyal mwan letan zot anvi.

Wi Minis.

MR SPEAKER Minis eski ou pa kapab donn li en sif lo konbyen ki’n expire parey in demande?

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab pou ou kestyon.

Letan ou pe dir ilegal immigrant ou pe dir expired GOPs mon presume?

Ok, expired GOP i arive, especially pou se moman, lo sa tranzisyon ki pe arive la.
I MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Ok, egzakteman 1014.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Labonte.

HON ANDY LABONTE pg.

63 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Mersi, Mr Chairman.

Bonn apre midi Minis ek ou panel ankor enn fwa.

Mon kestyon i senp, zis ler ki mon’n get lo kote ‘major achievement.’ Pwen nimero 2.

Mon’n vwar poudir ou’n dir poudir zot fek re ganny zot biro kot Independence House ki ti’n ganny renouvle e refurbish par Green Island Construction.
Me ler mon’n get anba PSP mon pa’n vwar vreman en sonm ni petet dan Bidze 2020.

Petet konbyen ki Green Island Construction in sarz zot pou sa renovasyon sa refurbishment?

pou E an pasan, vi ki ler ou’n koz lo GOP mon’n tann ou dir i plizoumwen Minister Lanplwa ki responsab.

Me plizoumwen pou GOP fee.

Parey nou konnen nou annan en problenm, nou pe met lanfaz dan donn plis nou travayer nou loportinite Seselwa.
ou ki Petet si responsab lo GOP fee, si sa zot pa pe mazin dan revwar pri ki zot sarz bann dimoun pou GOP dan Sesel, pou dekouraz bann lakonpannyen pou anploy bann etranze pou vin travay Sesel?

Mersi Minis.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mon a reponn sa dernyen kestyon apre PS a reponn lo Green Island Construction, sa kontra.

Lo kestyon GOP, ou’n koz en pti git lo fer bann fee vin ser.

E sa koman en deteran.


Minister Lanplwa i pa la zis pou fer keksoz difisil pou nou sekter prive fer zot louvraz osi.

Akoz i enportan ki sekter prive, nou industry i devlope e vin industrial.

Sanmenm sa ki moter nou lekonomi osi dan pei.

So ki enportan i ki ler nou get, nou pa fer keksoz enposib osi.

Akoz ou kapab met sitan barrier ki private sector pa mars ditou, nek i tonbe.

So, Minister Lanplwa i rod sa nivo ki ler i annan en bezwen, i dir ou sa dimoun i bezwen.
Nou pa neseserman ou fer keksoz difisil, mon krwar ou scrutiny i pou gete si ou annan dimoun ki kapab fer sa louvraz, si i annan dimoun ki pe espere, kalifye tousala.

Fer li fasil, fer li pa fasil, si i annan sa dimoun ki kapab fer nou pa devret donn GOP.

E sa i sa scrutiny ki nou devret annan.

O moman ki en scrutiny in ganny fer, ki nou realize pou biznes dan pei osi marse, ler scrutiny in fini ganny fer, la nou bezwen facilitate sa prosesis e nou annan dan nou bann performance indicators, mon ti a pg.
64 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 pe gete taler.

En serten, mon krwar apepre 5 zour si mon pa tronpe.

Ki nou bezwen o manman ki nou’n ganny sa lotorite of Employment, nou bezwen fer sa prosesis vit.

from Ministry Ou konpran mwan sa de bout?

Sa de bout scrutiny apre sa de bout kot ou facilitate.

Nou pa kapab melanz sa de keksoz ansanm.

Mon krwar mon a les PS reponn sa kestyon Green Island.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER PS.

Wi.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mersi Minis.

Mersi, Mr Chair.


Bon an se ki konsern Green Island.

Zis i byen fer resorti ki sa building kot Imigrasyon i ete la, landlord se MLUH.

Alors nou kapab fer 2 keksoz.

Espere letan MLUH i vin isi, i kapab produce sa lenformasyon.

Si non, nou ava sey rode menm ava e apre nou a fer Lasanble konnen.

Si sa i agreab.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi PS.

Onorab Loze.

HON JOHAN LOZE Mersi, Mr Speaker.


Mr Speaker, mon oule ankor enn fwa re demann Minis lo kestyon function ki enn son core lavi, lape e prezervasyon sekirite.

E si i santi ki sa fonksyon border control ki anba Imigrasyon e ki osi anba son portfolio i kapab ganny itilize pou bring about lape, lord, sekirite dan pei parey ki i devret ete.

E si i santi li Minis ki i annan ase resours, in ganny ase larzan dan Bidze?
Ouswa si santi ki i annan okenn mankman, petet la ti ava letan pou eklersi, elabore sirtou lo kote si i annan bann Polisi ki bezwen revwar, ganny retendered to.

Si i santi ki i annan sa.

Mr Speaker, lo sa size PI ki pe kontinyelman vini la.

E i annan bann keksoz ki pe ganny dir ki pa devret ganny dir.

Me selman les sa.

Sa ki nou’n vwar se ki i pa fer premye fwa ki i annan sa bann issues PI ki vin devan nou Lasanble.

E ki i arive sa bann issues dan nou pei osi.


E a sak fwa ki sa bann issues in leve i toultan annan dimoun ki kestyonnen, ki defann.

lezot dimoun, nonm zot non serten dimoun parey en Onorab ki’n koze bomaten i kontan fer.

Ki harass Be sa ki nou’n vwar se ki dimoun lib pou in toultan kestyonnen, pou defann bann dimoun ki’n ganny ‘PI’ parey dan tou sosyete demokratik san ki dimoun i ganny akize ki zot pg.

65 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 dan biznes drog.
E mon krwar Minis i ava apresye sa akoz nou en demokrasi, nou dan en pei lib.

An 1996 ti annan en case ki ti al devan Lakour, en case lo en ‘PI’ kot sa Avoka ki ti defann sa case ozordi i en manm Cabinet.

E sa case i vreman similer avek sa case Madanm Onezime e Avoka sa letan ti dekrir sa ki ti arive koman bann mezir draconian ti’n ganny pran kont sa madanm.

Akoz sa madanm ti annan drwa fond fanmir, annan fanmir, annan zanfan Sesel, menm si i ti en etranze.
Mon pe zis anmenn sa devan pou met a latansyon Minis, a latansyon piblik ki ler nou, nou pe kestyon prosedir dan lafason ki sa in ganny fer, lakizasyon i ganny balanse kont nou comme quoi nou pa devret.

Ni menm kestyonnen.

Be par le pars in toultan ou parti Minis ki’n kestyon sa bann keksoz.
E zot in fer li libreman avek tou zot drwa pou zot fer li e zot in kestyonnen sa zafer ‘PI.’ E mon krwar ki nou devret annan liberte koman en nasyon lib pou kestyonnen sa bann issues whether i pou Ms Onezime, e nou pe kestyonn lafason ki in ganny fer.

E ki nou annan, ziska ozordi nou annan serious doubts ki sa ki Minis pe dir nou i square up avek la realite ki’n arive.

Ouswa i pou sa madanm an 1996 ki ti ganny defann par enn dimoun ki enn zot Minis ozordi.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.


Minis oubyen.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi, Onorab Loze pou ou kestyon.

Premye kestyon lo kestyon si nou annan ase Bidze pou asire ki fonksyon lape ek sekirite lo border control i pe marse?

Mon answer lo la i wi nou annan.

Me an menm tan ki mon dir wi nou annan, konpran lo kestyon security ek sityasyon ki devlope pa zis Sesel, dan pei.

Sa i en keksoz fluid.


Toultan dimoun i vin ek nouvo teknik pou penetre zot bann bi ki zot annan e nou, toultan nou bezwen alert.

So ou pou vwar pandan lot Bidze ki nou pe vin lo la, pou annan petet demann pou lezot keksoz e nou bezwen reste touzour vizilan e anliny ek sa ki nou bezwen pou konbat sa menas ki nou pe fer.

So sa i en keksoz fluid e nou pou reste fluid lo la.

Selman nou annan ase Bidze pour lenstan.

Lo ou kestyon ‘PI’.

Case 1996 i en zafer ki ou a kapab diskit ek sa Avoka.

Me lo ou pg.
Me lo ou pg.

66 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 lenterpretasyon ki ou’n servi sa mo draconian.

Ou konnen ou kapab servi sa mo draconian, mwan mon servi sa mo ‘pran desizyon.’ E dan sa sityasyon ki nou vwar nou ladan ozordi nou bezwen pran desizyon lo ler i ariv en lensidan, ki en dimoun ki pa en Seselwa i pa pe fer byen dan nou pei.

So lo sa sityasyon nou pou kontinyen pran serten desizyon ki en bann i ava vwar li koman draconian, me nou, nou pou kontinyen fer sa.
Me selman anliny ek Lalwa e anliny ek tou bann lezot keksoz ki nou bezwen swiv.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Onorab Loze, pa lo size ‘PI ‘silvouple.

Nou’n koz en kantite lo la, Minis in reponn 4 kestyon lo la, mon krwar i sifizan.

I annan leklersisman lo lot pwen ?

HON JOHAN LOZE Mon oule zis eklersi en keksoz ki mon’n dir.

Se Minis Derjaques ki ti servi sa term draconian in 1996 e pa mwan.

E pa mwan, Minis Derjaques.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Nou, konpran Onorab Loze.

Pa trakase, wi nou’n konpran.


Ok. Nou a kontinyen.

Naidu.

Onorab HON SATHYA NAIDU Mersi, Mr Chair.

Bonn apre midi Minis ek ou delegasyon.

Bonn apre midi tou Manm Onorab.

Lo bann progranm, ler mon pe get basic pay apart control trafficking, human services in annan en rediksyon.

Eski zot pou kapab donn en leksplikasyon lo sa silvouple ?

‘minor lo kote biometric Epi passport, lo capital outlay’ an sa ki konsern processing services i annan 24 milyon.
Eski sa 24 milyon i pa al anver sa e-passport or biometric passport?

E kekfwa atraver sa biometric passport nou pou nepli annan ka tel ki Egbert Jules Savy ki pou aparet parey nou’n vwar dan lepase.

E ozordi zour i annan serten Manm Onorab ki pe pran en kantite lo sitwayennte, me konnen ki lo sa kote Gouvernman pou napa sitwayennte ki pou donnen lo en baz malapropo.

lentere pou koz An sa ki konsern ‘PI’, napa okenn Manm lo sa kote latab ki pou soutir okenn eskobar !

Mersi (APPLAUSE) MR SPEAKER pg.


67 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Mersi.

Panel.

Onorab Pillay in fer en sistenm, kantite dimoun in fer statement.

Mon apresye ki pou li in ase kourt.

Mersi.

Panel.

Ou’n pare PS?

Pa bliye pou sinyal mwan ler ou pare pou leve.

Wi, PS ale.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mersi Mr Chair.

Mersi Onorab.

Issue saler i senpleman sa withdrawal of thirteenth-month salary.
An se ki konsern biometric, parey nou’n eksplike pli boner i en sistenm ki I pou secure sa sekirize.

lenformasyon sa e lenformasyon i pou pli byen ganny sekirize letan nou pou apply sa ki nou apel the ICAO Ok, Public Key Directory.

savedir i pou fer 3 keksoz li sa Public Key Directory ki nou deza en manm ladan.

So, i pou fer sir ki sa passport i tamper proof, i pa kapab ganny clone e i pou asire ki sa dimoun ki pe hold sa passport li menm i actual bearer e apre it is issued by the right authority.
So ou kapab asire ki i pou tre, tre difisil pou ou tamper, pou ou zwe avek sa passport lo son nivo sekirite.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Ghislain.

HON CHANTAL GHISLAIN Yes, bonn apre midi.

Mon kestyon i annan pou fer avek en size ki’n fek leve, ki annan pou fer avek identity cards.

Mon zis kapab eksplik en pti pe sa zis pou kapab met anliny bann keksoz avek kanmarad.
I annan kot DPA pe fer bann dimoun aze ki resevwar zot pansyon, pas par labank e zot bezwen ranpli sa form pou zot kapab pas zot bann larzan labank.

E pou sa mwan la in arive ki bann dimoun, i annan dimoun ki siny avek lakrwa lo zot kart idantite e menm dan labank.

Me kot DPA zot pa pe aksepte sa lakrwa lo zot form.

Zot pe dir bezwen met pous.

Prezan ki i pa anliny avek kot Civil Status akoz kart idantite sa dimoun zot kapab menm fer passport, zot siny avek lakrwa.
Me tandis ki kot DPA letan pe ranpli sa form zot bezwen, i spesifye ki bezwen met pous anba kot sinyatir, menm si sa dimoun pa abitye servi sinyatir me i servi lakrwa.

Prezan zot pe demande ki kot kart idantite, kekfwa zot kapab re entrodwi sa zafer zis met pous lo kart idantite, pou li vin at par ek letan bann dimoun i fer bann formalite pou zot kapab ranpli zot bann form, pg.

68 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 pou zot ganny zot larzan pas par labank.
Menm si labank ler sa dimoun pou al tir son larzan i pou siny avek lakrwa, me letan i ranpli son form anba kot i met signature, still i met lakrwa, zot pa pe aksepte.

E en kantite form in ganny retournen, i annan in retourn La Digue e sa bann dimoun pa pe kapab ganny zot larzan.

E lafason ki ler i retournen, ek sa zafer napa bato and all, mwan in fini pase ki zot pa pe gannyen.

So zot pe demande ki kekfwa kot kart idantite i kapab re entrodwi sa bout olye met lakrwa lo kart idantite.
Zot met pous enn fwa pour tou.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel.

Mr Elizabeth, wi.

IMMIGRATION MICHEL CHIEF OFFICER ELIZABETH Mersi Onorab.

Mr Chair.

Onorab lo konsernan kart idantite mon mazinen sak son departman standar.

E pour lemoman kot kart konsernan signature, mon specimen mazinen zot pe servi lakrwa.

Me selman si parey ou’n dir, si i pou fasilite en keksoz, mon krwar nou a re get ladan.

Nou idantite annan i a travay lo la, nou a gete ki nou kapab fer lo sa size.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.


Onorab Labrosse.

HON RICHARD LABROSSE Bonn apre midi, Mr Speaker.

Bonn apre midi panel.

Minis ler, mon ti a kontan adres PS plito, mon’n vwar dan zot ‘achievement’ poudir pou 2019 i annan 10 zofisye imigrasyon ki’n graduate e sa i en bon nouvel.

So, dan menm laliny mon pe demande.

Eski zot in fini, mon’n aprann ki zot ti pe travay lo en Scheme of Service pou bann zofisye Imigrasyon, vi, ki nou konnen sa louvraz i very demanding.
Lo sa kote, ki bann lankourazman ki ou Minister i annan e si dan sa Bidze kekfwa pou annan en pti keksoz pou zot.

E si non, ki mesaz lespwar ou annan pou zot deor.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Panel.

PS.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Ok. Mersi, Mr Chairman.

So, an se ki konsern sa bann dimoun.

Sa 10 zofisye, nou annan plan training pou tou nou dimoun zisteman.

Nou annan plan training pou 21 zofisye Imigrasyon ki pe swiv sa pg.

69 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 course Immigration Studies.
Nou’n run sa course pou, well third year running la.

E nou annan lezot seniors ki pou emerge dan sa training ki’n fini immerge dan training ki pou fer diploma e nou annan osi in- house training ki nou pou pe bann donnen konsernan customer supervisory skills, service eksetera.

So Minister ti oule adres en pti git lo sa lot parti ou kestyon.

Mersi.

i MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi, Onorab Labrosse.


Ou kestyon lo sa 10 focus Immigration officers ki’n konplet zot training, zot in ganny zot sertifika e la zot bezwen ale, apply zot lekor.

Mon krwar pa si an se moman ki ou get lo okenn keksoz other than zot louvraz.

application dan zot Mon krwar si okenn keksoz ki zot pou gannyen, i pou depan lo fason zot travay.

Ler ou fini en training la, ou ganny en konesans, ou’n aprann en keksoz.

La ou bezwen met sa an practice.


Ler ou pe met an practice, ou pe fer li byen, la ki ou kapab ganny en keksoz ki vin avek.

So mwan mon krwar dan sa laliny.

Keksoz natirelman pou bezwen ganny gete me selman i annan son moman ki sa i arive.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

klarifikasyon?

Ou bezwen HON RICHARD LABROSSE Yes, Mr Speaker.

Minis mon pa ti pe koz egzakteman lo sa 10 graduates.

Nou pe koz lo sa bann atraver osi ki’n la pou en pe letan.

Bann ki’n la, konmsi ki mesaz lespwar nou annan pou zot?
Konmsi nou pou espekte en pti zafer pou zot, eksetera?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Minis wi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Wi, tou dimoun i annan zot Scheme of Service, Onorab.

So i enposib la pou mwan dir ou wi, non.

Tou dimoun i ganny trete diferaman lo depan zot performance.

So zot annan zot Scheme of Service e zot kapab bouze lo sa Scheme of Service si zot ganny promote parey i arive dan tou departman.

So mon pa konnen si mon’n reponn sa ase byen, me napa en keksoz spesifik ki mon kapab reponn ou lo la.
Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Minis.

Onorab Uranie.

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70 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 HON ROCKY URANIE Mersi Mr Chair.

Bon apre midi Minis avek ou delegasyon.

Mon kestyon i annan pou fer avek program 2.

Citizens affairs services anba ‘office expenses.’ Vi ki mon’n tann PS mon krwar dir boner ki bokou keksoz i ganny store an digital, me selman mon vwar kot printing and stationary i annan en logmantasyon sorti 16mil pou vin 100 mil.
E apre elektrisite osi in sorti 13mil in ariv 125mil.

Mon ti a kontan ganny en leksplikasyon pou sa.

Apre, zis an pasan, mon ti a kontan.

Mon’n tann in dir zot pe lwe lofis dan Mills Complex, La Digue.

Mon ti a kontan konnen konbyen zot ape lwe e si zot in ganny sans diskite pou ganny 25 poursan?

Mersi, Mr Speaker.

rediksyon sa MR SPEAKER Mersi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab.

Mon a reponn sa dernyen kestyon apre PS ou a reponn sa lot kestyon.

Lo kestyon La Digue, konbyen i pe kout nou?


MR SPEAKER Wi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA R10,000 pou sa building.

Me an menm tan osi mon ti ape konsider sa osi.

Petet nou kapab osi servi en bout kot Lapolis ouswa kot en lot landrwa pou nou fer sa louvraz.

Akoz La Digue i annan aktivite, selman napa sitan sa kantite en aktivite, landrwa la koumsa tou le mwan.

So, en keksoz ki nou bezwen revwar, me pou enstan i kout R10,000 sa landrwa.

Mersi.

allocate pou MR SPEAKER Mersi.

PS, wi pran lot bout.


avek bann PS ALAIN VOLCERE Wi, mersi Mr Chair.

Pou sa lot i senpleman bann increase toners cards.

cards avek Disembarkation embarkation cards pou border control, pou bann dimoun ki travay lo bann entry points, sirtou Airport.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Ok, mersi pou sa.

Onorab Roucou.

Michel.

HON MICHEL ROUCOU Bonn apre midi, Mr Chair.

Bonn apre midi panel.

PS mon pou adres sa kestyon avek ou, mon’n tann ou koz lo bokou amannman ki zot pe fer dan pg.
71 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Imigrasyon.

Me nou annan group dimoun ki’n marye, en zabitan Mont Fleuri ki’n dir mwan demann sa kestyon.

I annan group dimoun marye, zot annan zot fanmir, zot in reste isi pou en bon pe letan.

Zot annan zot zanfan.

Me selman ler pou zot fer prosedir pou citizenship i annan en dokiman ki zot ranpli ki ladan i annan sa bout ki demann zot ki zot bezwen al rod bann direkter, rod bann PS.

Mon krwar pou endorse zot.


Me sa i vin koman en difikilte sa, akoz laplipar letan bann PS, bann direkter zot pa konn sa bann dimoun.

Akoz sa bann dimoun petet zot leve, zot pa bann dimoun ki pe angaz zot dan okenn aktivite drog oubyen nenport keksoz.

Me nou pe gete dan amannman zot pa kapab gete, petet met swa bann Per, ouswa bann dimoun headteacher, ouswa bann keksoz koumsa.

Bann dimoun koumsa?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

PS oubyen ?

ou’n pare?

wi.


PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mr Chair, mon krwar pou sa bann dimoun ki annan drwa endorse, sa bann form passport i en keksoz ki mon krwar i ava kapab ganny konsidere, ava diskite.

Nou’n deza gannyen detrwa issues lo la, kot dimoun in kestyonnen menm.

Be for the time being nou pou bezwen zis viv avek sa lalis ki deza annan.

Wi, zisteman bann dimoun ki.

Mannyer mon konpran se bann dimoun ki sponsor.

Se sa.

Wi, se sa, bann sponsor.


MR SPEAKER Onorab Roucou si oule klarifye pou PS donn ou en bon repons.

HON MICHEL ROUCOU PS.

Non, i annan sa bout ki ler sa dimoun li menm li i pe apply sa citizenship, apre ki bokou letan in isi, in marye.

I annan sa bout ki pe dir i bezwen ganny endorse atraver en PS ouswa en Direkter Zeneral ki kapab proceed avek son laplikasyon.

MR SPEAKER PS, ou’n konpran la.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Wi, sa sponsor savedir.

So, sa i form parti regilasyon.


So, for the time being nou ava viv avek sanmenm sa lalis ki nou annan e dan amannman byensir letan nou fer sa bann konsiltasyon, sa legzersis reviews sa i ava certainly come up.

Mersi pou sa.

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72 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MR SPEAKER Mersi PS.

Onorab Cosgrow par HON WALLACE COSGROW Mersi Chair.

Dabor mon ti a kontan koriz en misinformation par Minis bomaten konsernan issuance of GOP.
GOP i ganny Departman issue Imigrasyon anba Immigration Decree.

dir Minis Departman.

Employment i Employment approve the post to be occupied by a foreigner, apre ki in fer en se labour market Departman ki annan lotorite pou issue GOP dan pei.

e test Imigrasyon Department ti An dizan sa Mr Speaker, mon pou tourn en pti pe lo ‘PI,’ me selman pa dan menm laliny parey lezot Manm in koz lo la.

Eski Minis ouswa PS i kapab dir nou ki kantite ka ‘PI’ zot deal avek apepre dan en lannen?
Ki kantite resours i pran in terms of tax payers money from Bidze?

Eski in annan okenn latest dimoun i’n ganny issue ek PI ki’n refize?

Ki prosedir legal?

proze Osi PS ou ava rapel ti annan sa proze e-Borders ki ti en ki Departman Imigrasyon ti pe sey met an plas.

PS ki’n arive avek sa proze, eski zot pe abandonn li pou faver travisory ki pe ganny pour lemoman la, servi prensipalman par Departman Lasante, Public Health?

Well pe selman servi, me ganny prensipalman par Departman Lasante.

Public Health.
Public Health.

Eski nou vwar zot tourn lo sa proze e-Borders, akoz e-Borders i ganny set up pou immigration li.

Pou immigration purposes e ladan ou kapab ganny bann lenformasyon lo bann dimoun kip e antre pou zisteman avoid demen bomaten, pran resours ki ou annan dan ou Bidze pou ou deport dimoun.

koman Savedir ou ganny bon lenformasyon en Departman Imigrasyon, pou ou fer sir ki ou fer the right person antre dan Sesel e demen ou pa bezwen al depans sitan pou deport dimoun.
So, ki pe arive avek sa proze e-Borders?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Minis ou anvi adres premye oubyen?

Sinyal mwan silvouple.

PS, wi.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Wi, an se ki konsern sa proze e- Borders.

I annan pou fer avek sa ki nou apel advance passenger information system.

So senpleman dir akoz ou kapab pardonn mwan pou issue, nou sensitivity of sa pg.

73 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 annan serten lezot providers ki’n apros nou.
Well, ki’n apros Gouvernman e i annan en desizyon ki pou ganny pran within, mon mazinen dan en serten dele letan ki nou pou, issue nou pou konsider sa travisory, e-Borders e avek en lot sistenm ki en lot pei zanmi osi pe ofer.

So sa konsiltasyon i on going.

En desizyon ki kapab ganny pran osi to ki posib.

An se ki konsern sa roulman lo sa kestyon lo PI.

Nou kapab dir ki i annan 2 keksoz dan PI ki nou gete.

I annan inadmissible persons.


Savedir ou ganny en PI letan ou pe antre dan pei akoz ou admissible.

Savedir ou pa meet kriter ki’n ganny etabli par imigrasyon pou ou ganny en larantre dan pei.

E nou konte an 2020 i annan 86 sa bann dimoun ki nou’n bezwen fer refoule.

Retour dan zot pei origin akoz zot pa’n meet kriter.

E aprezan i annan en lot PI ki nou donnen ki bann dimoun ki petet in fini antre dan pei e pour en rezon ou en lot zot pa pe konport zot.
Zot sityasyon i pa iregalize or they’ve been bad boys ki nou bezwen fer zot retournen.

i annan E sa apepre, well i annan 36 pou lannen 2020.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Tre byen.

Ti annan lot pwen oule eklersi?

HON WALLACE COGROW Mr Speaker, wi.

Ti annan en pti pwen lo la.

Eski i annan dimoun ki’n gannyen, ki’n refize pou sinyen or aksepte e ki prosedir legal ler dimoun i refiz en PI.

Pa sa bann ki well, i kapab sa ki pe antre ouswa sa ki pe ganny, sa bann bad boys parey ou’n dir ki pe ganny met deor.
Ki prosedir legal.

Eski i annan ki’n refize?

ki prosedir legal?

MR SPEAKER Wi.

PS, wi.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Wi.

Mersi.

Mersi Onorab.

Prosedir legal ki kouver PIs i dan Lalwa.

Ok?

So par egzanp to be specific, Seksyon 19 i dir ou ki lenstans ou ganny PI.

Ki keksoz ki ou’n fer ki merit fer ou ganny PI.

Par egzanp ou’n fer en fos reprezantasyon avek en Zofisye Limigrasyon.

Ou prezans dan pei i konstiti - sa ki nou dir an angle, you are a charge to the republic, ou pa kapab vey ou lekor eksetera.
E bann lezot lofans ki ou kapab fer.

Dezyenmman, Seksyon 20 Lalwa dan i ganny pg.

74 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 dekrir ki mannyer ou ganny servi sa PI.

Ki mannyer ou ale, ki bann means, konbyen letan ou annan.

Selman apre i annan en reprezantasyon ki sa dimoun ki’n ganny servi en PI i kapab fer to the Minister.

En serten dele letan, e prezan Minis i annan tou sa pouvwar pou li aksepte oubyen refize.

E ler Minis in refize, sa dimoun i bezwen kit pei.


Se sa nivo prosedir, tousala i enkli ladan.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi PS.

Onorab Monthy.

HON PHILIP MONTHY Mersi Mr Speaker … (technical issue) HON PHILIP MONTHY Parsyelman.

Me selman pou mwan ganny en larepons pli kler mon pou demande.

Mon konnen Minis in tous lo la ler in abord size sa proze passport biometrik e in reponn ler Onorab Phillip Arissol osi.
Ansyen Minis pou Internal Affairs ler ti vin dan Lasanble lannen pase i ti eksprim serten defayans dan zot sistenm data base.

Ok ?

pou liaise avek Minister Lanplwa, pou konnen kantite GOP ki’n ekspire.

Mon konnen Minis la i fek fer sorti ki dir zot ganny flag ler sa i arive.

Ok?

Ki kantite passport ki’n ganny issue, kantite passport ki’n ekspire deor.

Mon konnen ki sa proze passport biometrik petet pe al adres sa en pe.
Donk mon kestyon se, eski finalman nou kapab dir ki Departman Imigrasyon, i annan en information management system an plas - database an plas, ki zot annan tou sa bann lenformasyon devan zot.

Zis ou tous en bouton ou gannyen, ou konnen lekel dimoun ki dan pei ki pe reste ilegalman, lekel GOP ki’n ekspire, konbyen passport ki’n ganny issue, konbyen passport.

Ou vwar dan ki laliny mon pe vini Minis?

Eski pou enn fwa pour tou zot annan sa tou sa abilite pou annan lenformasyon devan zot la ?

Mersi.
Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab.

En kestyon kourt, i wi.

Ki’n arive, mon krwar toultan sa ti la selman personn pa ti own li.

La DICT in ganny anmennen pou ganny sa manda lo zot latab.

So nenport moman nou bezwen en lenformasyon i la devan nou.

Zis by the press of a button parey nou dir.

Lo tou sa bann pg.

75 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Konbyen ki expire, zafer.

konbyen ki pou expire dan so many months.

Konbyen ou la, so annan.


finalman tousala in ganny met annord.

Wi, pou kestyon.

Mersi.

Tousala i MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Vidot.

HON AUDREY VIDOT Vi ki Mersi, Mr Chair.

imigrasyon i anmas en kantite reveni e la ki pei i bezwen rekolte otan reveni ki posib.

Minis nou ti ava apresye si ou ti kapab donn nou lenformasyon.

Petet ki ou annan la, kantite GOP ki’n expire ki bann dimoun i ankor dan pei, menm si border in ouver.
E petet si Sesel nou kapab anmas reve avek sa bann lorganizasyon ki pe retenir zot bann dimoun, zot pa ankor fer ale.

lo lot kote Mon lot kestyon, atraver ou, Mr Chairman.

Mon oule dir Minis pou eskiz mon 2 koleg latab.

Onorab ek Onorab Sandy Arissol Onorab Woodcock, akoz zot pa’n byen ekout ou bomaten Minis, ler ou’n fer resorti dan ou lentrodiksyon.

… MR SPEAKER ….

Onorab eski mwan, Onorab atann en pti moman.

Eskiz mwan, eskiz mwan.

Mon pa krwar i dan ou plas pou ou demann leskiz pou en lot dimoun.
Fer ou statement ki ou anvi fer.

HON AUDREY VIDOT Napa problem, napa problenm, Mr Speaker.

Sa i mwan.

Wi.

MR SPEAKER Kontinyen.

Selman i pa dan ou plas pou demann kestyon pou zot.

Pou eski … HON AUDREY VIDOT Wi Minis.

Akoz zot pa’n ekout ou bomaten zot en.

Zot pa’n ekout ou.

MR SPEAKER Ok, sa i byen.


HON AUDREY VIDOT Par kont mwan Audrey Vidot koman Manm Elekte pou Roche Caiman mon oule felisit ou Minis e montre ou mon sipor lo sa komanter ki ou fer bomaten, akoz mon’n ekout ou tre byen kot ou’n dir ki lo sa size etranze ki kas Lalwa i bezwen pas devan Lakour.

ti Mon siport ou totalman, ok?

Akoz nou lo sa kote latab nou antyerman krwar ladan.

Ok?

I enportan, lazistis.

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76 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 HON AUDREY VIDOT Akoz pare ou’n dir Minis, mon siport ou ankor.

Repitasyon Sesel i bezwen byen ganny preserve.

Alors mwan mon pou demann kontinyelman Gouvernman lo son prosesis prosedir, pou asire ki nou repitasyon gard kontinyen Sesel.

Akoz Sesel i pou nou tou Seselwa ki la.

E Minis alors mon pou demann ou.


Ou pou vwar poudir mon pou toultan konsistan anver mon bann kestyon ki mon demann ou dan Lasanble, pou asire ki lasirans ki atraver sa Bidze ki nou pe donn zot la ozordi pa pou ganny servi ankor pou siport okenn Minister, okenn departman ou pou Lazans Gouvernman, kontinyen okenn dimoun pe enport si en Seselwa oubyen en etranze, i bezwen san respekte Lalwa ki en Konstitisyon pei.

Ok?

deport E mon terminen … MR SPEAKER Silvouple, move on Onorab Vidot.
HON AUDREY VIDOT Mr Chair, mon oule move on me lot kote latab pa pe les mwan.

E mon a terminen Mr Chair.


Mon oule met lo rikord i osi ki si Lasanble i santi ki, si bann Manm i santi ki verbatim Lasanble tarde pou nou gannyen, petet mon ava dir ki nou lo US, nou pare pou nou donn okenn Manm lo LDS nou bann komanter e kestyon, pou asire ki ler okenn Manm LDS i bezwen fer referans lo la, pe enport dan zot zournal, kot zot ava fer li parey, enterpret li parey ki nou dir pou asire ki nou pa mislead piblik e nou Lasanble !

Mersi.

(Interruption) MR SPEAKER Mersi.


Mon lopinyon se ki i annan serten komanter ki Onorab in fer ki Minis i kapab bypass.

Me Selman Minis i up to you pou pran sa ki annan, ki ou krwar i relevan avek ou Bidze e pou adrese.

Mersi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Mr Speaker.

(Interruption) MR SPEAKER Onorab Arissol, silvouple.

Ale.

(Interruption) MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA pg.


77 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Mon ti a kontan demann bann Onorab pou reste trankil en pti git, mwan ki pe koze la.

(Laughter) MR SPEAKER Eskiz mwan, sa i aplik pou tou lede kote osi sa.

Mersi.

Minis.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab Vidot, Mersi pou sa bann ou sipor.

Akoz sityasyon ki mon’n eksplike pli boner ler pou PI en dimoun, nou pe PI li pour Sesel, so nou bezwen siport tou dimoun dan sa Lasanble lo la.
E nou, nou pou reste ant Lalwa, me nou pou firm lo sa bann sityasyon.

fer bon Lo ou kestyon revenue.

Wi revenue dan nou Immigration.

fact nou In revenue i pli gran ki nou Bidze 89 milyon konpare ek 64.

So, sa departman i efikas e tou resours ki nou servi natirelman nou pou servi li dan fason egzakteman parey i devret ganny servi.

Expired GOP.

Wi, expired GOP parey mon ti dir Onorab lot kote, nou annan 1400.

Me mon promet ou osi sa ki pou peye pou peye.

Ou konpran mwan?
Ou konpran mwan?

Sa ki pou peye, pou peye akoz nou’n accommodate tou dimoun ek ase lenformasyon ki zot kapab fer, ki zot pa kapab fer, kan zot kapab fer, kan zot pa kapab fer.

Zot konnen tousala.

E la nou la pou asiste private sector byensir me an menm tan nou annan nou bann large nou pou mentenir.

Toultan mon dir ler nou annan large nou pa kapab annan large, pa servi large.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Minis.

Samynadin.

Onorab HON KELLY SAMYNADIN Mersi, Mr Chair.


Bonn apre midi Minis avek ou delegasyon.

Mon kestyon pli enportan in fini ganny demande, me zis an pasan ‘records anba management dan break down kot office building rent,’ mon vwar en rediksyon konsiderab sorti 306mil pou ariv 83mil ki tre valab.

Me zis eklersi sa Lasanble sa lo rediksyon silvouple?

Mersi.

rezondet MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel in pare.

PS ALAIN VOLCERE Mersi, Mr Chair.

Mon mazinen nou ti’n fini reponn sa kestyon konsernan sa rental.
Sa i ti en lofis ki nou ti pe servi Ocean Gate House ki la pour lemoman pg.

78 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 anba i Departman Lanplwa.

Mersi.

responsabilite MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab William.

HON WAVEN WILLIAM Mersi Mr Chairman.

Mr Chairman, mon anvi demann avek Minis, par lefe ki letan nou pe analiz sityasyon koman en Manm Parlman.

Nou santi poudir dan le pase ti annan en pti, konmsi gard ti’n tonbe en pti pe lo kot sirveyans, par rapor avek febles imen anliny avek koripsyon.
Chair, petet mon pa devret servi sa mo koripsyon pangar a ofans dimoun.

Me sa eleman pran ouswa donnen petet mon a kapab dir or mismanagement.

So ki bann mezir an plis anba bann restriktirasyon avek revizyon zot pe fer, pou fer sir ki dan ranforsman border control ki bann travayer pa tonm dan tantasyon, pou al dan sa bann tandans sa bann kalite aktivite?

E mon dezyenm pwen i baze lo latab 4.

E an menm tan mon pou relasyon sa Mr Chairman avek latab 6, 7, 8.
Lo latab 4 ki gouvern bann ‘new initiatives’ mon vwar poudir zot in koz lo nouvo recruit, an menm tan pou entrodwir bann nouvo lekipman.

Me kot bout avek ki annan pou fer konpansasyon travayer i ganny mete.

Me selman kot zot pe dir kot zot pou entrodwir nouvo lekipman nou pa vwar en sonm ki ganny mete, ki fer ou a krwar i en pti pe an dezord.
Prezan lo kote latab 6, 7 e 8, la atraver ou Mr Chair, mon ti a kontan demann PS pou Finans, akoz mon vwar sa i ganny reflekte atraver bann diferan heads ki vin devan nou.

Kot bomaten mon dakor avek Minis ki demann en revizyon.

So mon pa krwar sa travay i devret zis lo kote Minis bann headings.

Mon krwar Minister Finans i devret pe ed en pe la.

Mon pa konnen ki fason ki PS Thesee i vwar sa.

Akoz lo bann performance measures mon en krwar Parlman ouswa bann Manm Lasanble, letan nou pe get tousala.
Letan ou pe egzers ou rol oversight ou pa vreman kapab, mon kapab dir fer en bon travay.

Akoz lafason ki bann lenformasyon pe donnen i pa presi.

koman poudir E petet PS Finans i a kapab dir mwan, eski sa i en model ki zot, zot in aksepte e swazir e donn avek bann heads ouswa se bann departman ki’n vin avek sa kalite stil?

Akoz dan lavenir mon krwar i pou bezwen sanze, akoz i pa vreman lenformasyon reflekte bann pg.
79 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 presi pou nou koman en Parlman travay avek pou vreman mezire kwa ki pe arive.

So mon ti a kontan ganny en pti pe zot lopinyon lo la.

Akoz pou mwan parey mon dir se ki ler mon vwar i annan en pti pe dezord e si i konsern ‘new initiatives’, figures then should be there.

Akoz ou’n nonmen poudir ou pe recruit en dimoun, i pou ariv tan.

Me kot i training ouswa koz nouvo lekipman, me napa sa sonm ki ganny mete.

Mersi.
Mersi.

lo kote the MR SPEAKER Ale, nou a les PS adrese.

Lekel ki pou al premye, PS oubyen Minis.

kestyon mismanagement?

Wi.

Lo MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Ok, lo kestyon ‘surveillance, corruption, mismanagement.’ I annan, ki mannyer mon kapab eksplik sa.

i en size Sa aprofondir dan nou sistenm ozordi ki nou pe fere fas avek, ki parfwa ou annan en zofisye ki pe fer son louvraz, me i ganny enfliyanse, i les son lekor ganny enfliyanse.
E lo sa bann travay ki nou pe fer ki mon kapab al sitan an detay, nou bezwen annan nou sistenm sekirite, Revwar bann investigation.

lezot lentelizans ki nou gannyen pou fer sir ki pa zis sa pa arive, me sa bann dimoun ki’n fer sa ouswa kit ant pou ganny enfliyanse i ganny ladan, kontrole.

I pa en size ki mon kapab detay byen an kler la dan sa Lasanble.

Me rest assured e Onorab William mon kapab si oule at a later time koz lo serten keksoz.

Me nou realiz sa menas, i en keksoz tre serye sa.


Me rest assured ler nou ganny bann sityasyon koumsa.

Parey mon’n dir avan, nou serye lo sa bann zafer.

Nou pou pran aksyon.

Ok?

Me si avan in ariv serten lenfliyans kot dimoun i ganny enfliyanse, ganny aste.

Mon hope sa si ariv a se moman la e nou detekte then pou annan gro reperkisyon lo la.

Lo kestyon indicators, mon kapab reponn lo la osi.

MR SPEAKER Ok, PS.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Ok, lo kestyon indicators.

I vre sa ki ou dir.
I vre sa ki ou dir.

Si ou annan en plan ou bezwen konnen ki mannyer ou pou manage li.

Now, si sa i pou mars ek sa existing budget i pa ganny dir ladan, egzakteman.

I pa ganny dir.

Me nou krwar as bann planifikasyon pou ganny fer concurrently.

So i pa bann pg.

80 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 keksoz, i pa bann progranm ki pou ganny fer separeman.

I pou ganny fer concurrently dan moman ki dimoun pe travay.

Zot ganny allocated pou zot ganny zot training, eksetera.
So mon pa krwar ki i annan en gran kou spesyal lo la.

Apart from probably bann zafer shift, eksetera pou annan en kou lo salaries koumsa.

Me Selman pa naryen ekstravagan.

Unless PS ou annan en lot deklarasyon lo la.

MR SPEAKER Mon krwar i ti’n adres son kestyon avek PS Thesee.

Si ou anvi donn leksplikasyon lo ki mannyer i ganny prezante.

PS DAMIEN THESEE Mersi, Mr Chair.

Se bann Minister respektif ki responsab pou met zot prop strategic objectives.
Zot osi donn zot bann defayans atraver zot bann fer sorti par challenges ki egzanp zot bann difikilte ki zot gannyen, si zot pa pe ganny sa Bidze pou operate.

Me parkont zot mete ki zot objectives, ki zot pou fer.

Oubyen zot bann achievements, oubyen zot bann azanda avek sa Bidze ki zot pou gannyen.

E alors nou napa en rol vreman lo determin bann Minister.

lobzektif Me parkont bokou bann digitalization proceeds of bann Minister, i pa neseserman involve larzan bokou fwa.
I zis en matter of gete ki mannyer zot bann manual process i ganny capture.

E ou kapab swa fer DICT pou donn zot bann sistenm ki kapab facilitate zot bann louvraz.

I pa neseserman neseser Bidze kot zot.

E kot Imigrasyon li menm pou sa dernyen 2, 3 an nou’n kontinyelman met sa R15 milyon ekivalan dan son Bidze tou le lannen pou li kapab fer son biometric passport ki’n annan retar lo la.

So, nou, nou swiv plan sa Minister dapre priyorite ant tou bann Minister ki annan.
So, i a zot pou zot kapab come up avek zot bann priyorite, la in met en plan.

Zot annan en plan 2021- 2023 kot zot in met en pe zot bann lobzektiv ki zot anvi fer.

Pou Departman Imigrasyon i annan 2 keksoz prensipal.

Se sa e-passport avek sa advance passenger information system.

E bokou fwa sa bann konsep i demann bokou letan pou zot Ganny son kapab travay.

Ganny son konsep byen.

procurement byen.

Ganny son evalyasyon byen avan ki nou konnen ki zot plan, konbyen pou vreman koute.

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81 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 So enn ler i pran en pa letan avan sa bann plan i vini, i finalize.

i aprouve, pou nou kapab met dan Bidze.

Mersi.

Konsey Minis MR SPEAKER I bezwen klarifikasyon, Onorab.

HON WAVEN WILLIAM Mersi, Mr Chair.

Mr Chair, petet mon ti ava met devan Minis avek PS.

Par lefe ki nou pe koz larzan piblik, lafason ki i ganny depanse.

E mon santi bann atraver poudir prezantasyon i annan en bann tro vid ki i kre lespas pou sa tandans koripsyon.
So letan ou ganny bann lenformasyon presi e detaye ou kapab sivre byen.

E an menm tan nou annan bann standard SOPs, mon mazinen tou sa letan nou an egzistans, ki mon santi petet serten travay i bezwen ganny fer pou bann prezantasyon.

Akoz si non, nou pou still ganny bann difikilte avek ki fason ki bann prosedir pou nou servi letan sirtou i konsern oversight.

So ou pou ganny bokou kestyon ki pou monte letan keksoz i pa kler.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Mon krwar Minis ek PS i a note.


MR SPEAKER Onorab Pillay.

HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY Mersi, Mr Chairman.

Mr Chairman, premyerman mon ti a kontan zis fer sir ki nou reste lo menm paz e ki nou pa depart from sa ki nou tou nou agree lo la.

I annan serten konfizyon lo lot kote latab regarding sa size sitwayennte, ki mon ti a kontan ki nou met o kler avan mon kontinyen.

propozisyon Onorab Naidu in eksprim en propozisyon ki mwan mon antyerman dakor avek.
Me Onorab Roucou i vin eksprim en totalman kontrer vizavi bann regilasyon ki egziste.

Mon pa ti a krwar Gouvernman pe al anver relax okenn regilasyon an se ki konsern sitwayennte.

Mon ti a kontan ki Gouvernman i aligned son pozisyon byen lo la.

Sa i kler.
Sa i kler.

Akoz mon pe demann sa kestyon, Mr Speaker, se akoz Lartik 13 nou Konstitisyon i annan en provision ladan ki Minis mon ti a kontan anba sa Bidze, eski ou’n ganny sipor anba sa Bidze in terms of consultancy pou revwar Lartik 13 nou Konstitisyon ki deal avek renonsyasyon sitwayennte, oubyen ki deal pg.

82 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 avek depriving en dimoun sitwayennte si ti ganny unlawfully acquired?

i Akoz ozordi sa i kre en anomalie dan nou Lalwa.


Akoz si en dimoun nou pe dir in ganny sitwayennte, in ganny passport.

Sitwayennte i vin avek en passport, pa passport.

In ganny sitwayennte.

Pou nou kapab re pran sa sitwayennte, nou bezwen kapab amann Konstitisyon.

So eski i annan provizyon legal pou fer sa e Bidze pou travay lo en konsep legal.

Akoz i pa zis involve amann sa Lalwa, me i involve Lalwa sitwayennte dan en fason pli zeneral?

Sa i mon premye pwen.


Mon dezyenm pwen Mr Chairman, mon ti a kontan Minis i leve avek nou e dir nou.

Sa Bidze i vreman enportan akoz sa Bidze i osi prevwar saler e benefis bann dimoun ki nou kapab apel zot bann frontlines.

Akoz zot lo border control e se zot ki resevwar dimoun an premye lye.

E la ater mannyer keksoz, zafer in sal la deor, dimoun pa pe menm fer konmisyon lemwan, dimoun pe ganny difikilte pou fer.

Mon pa pe vin dan Lasanble, pou vin zwe avek saler bann dimoun ki pe ede protez mon pei.
Sa ki mon ti a kontan demann Minis selman, se an rezon ek proteksyon ki nou bann border control officer in gannyen.

Eski anba ou Bidze ou’n prevwar, mon pa konnen si Minister Lasante pe kapab ed nou pou fer sir ki tou travayer ki pe travay lo border control in fini ganny vaksinen?
Si ou kapab dir nou ki status ou ete avek vaksin, donn vaksin nou bann travayer lo border control pou asire ki si pei i ouver le 25 Mars, parey in prevwar, tou nou bann dimoun ki pe travay lo border control in ganny proteksyon ki fini neseser?

i nou Mon dernyen pwen Mr Chairman, ki mon ti a kontan Mini en donn klarifikasyon lo la.

Se mon pe vwar en sityasyon konplike Minis an relasyon ek sa size GOP imigrasyon.
Mon predeseser ki ti asiz dan sa sez ti toultan anmenn en lager ki imigrasyon e GOP i bezwen ansanm.

Savedir sanmenm ki Departman Lanplwa ti end up avek imigrasyon.

e Me la nou pe vwar sa sanzman.

So, nou bezwen konnen which is the dog and which is the tail.

Akoz nou problenm ki nou pe regarde Minis se prenon an kont kantite travay ki ou annan pou fer vizavi GOP, the policing of GOP se Departman Imigrasyon ki pg.

83 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 bezwen fer.
Lanplwa in fini donn donn approval pou sa dimoun travay.

Me policing of GOP se imigrasyon ki bezwen fer.

Imigrasyon So an relasyon avek sa.

Eski ou santi poudir ou Minis, sa departman i annan sa kapasite pou fer policing lo GOP parey nou vwar dan lezot pei.

Bann zofisye i bezwen fer, kot zot vizit bann site konstriksyon, vizit bann landrwa kot bann dimoun, vizit bann laferm.
Pou asire ki tou bann dimoun ki pe travay dan sa landrwa i annan en gainful occupational permit ki permet li kapab travay dan nou pei e non pa allow en capital flight ki kapab arive si dimoun pe travay san en GOP isi?

Mersi, Mr Chairman.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel, Minis ou a adres sa bann pwen?

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mr Speaker.

Onorab Pillay, mersi pou ou kestyon.

Les mwan clarify sa sitasyon of Immigration and Employment.

Mon pa vwar li difisil mwan.

Employment, premyerman GOP.


GOP i relate ek dimoun pou Minis travay dan Sesel.

Lanplwa i konn bezwen lanplwa neseser pou tou bann biznes, tou bann dimoun ki anvi sa fasilite.

So i normal e an menm tan Minis Lanplwa i konnen osi konbyen dimoun pe rod travay.

So i normal ki sa Minister i annan sa oversight pou gete ki, lekel ki bezwen kwa.

E ki mannyer keksoz, employment of Seychellois apre nesesite en dimoun, en etranze pou vin travay isi i balanse.
de sa E parey nou tou nou dakor ki, nou pou sey servi nou prop dimoun pou travay premye ler nou kapab.

So, se tou ki lanplwa pe fer li.

Onorab Cosgrow ti korek.

Mon krwar pa si mon’n dir diferaman.

is an Immigration issue.

So, GOP vre i tonm anba Imigrasyon.

GOP sa entitlement Me lo ou kestyon, lo ou kestyon lekel ki nou pou donnen, si en dimoun i pa ganny ek Lanplwa, nou pa pou donn li GOP nou.

Akoz lanplwa in fini vwar ki i annan en dimoun kalifye Sesel pou fer sa louvraz.
So, mon pa problenm la e nou p ape ganny problenm osi pou nou fer nou louvraz.

So zis mon vwar en problenm.

So, mon pa tro kapab reponn sa kestyon plis ki sa akoz nou pe travay anliny ek Minister Lanplwa e keksoz pe mars ase byen.

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84 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Lo kestyon vaccination, yes.
Vaccination i almost 100% now e nou pou fer sir avan border i ouver, ki tou sa bann dimoun in fini ganny vaccinated e natirelman pou annan enn de dimoun ki pou rezon ou en lot pa pe ganny vaksinen.

Me sa zot sitasyon pou zot menm.

Selman nou lo kote Immigration nou pe fer sir ki tou dimoun i ganny vaccinated.

Nou bann frontliners parey ou’n dir.

Ou ti mansyonnen en keksoz lo citizenship?

MR SPEAKER Wi, lo Article 13, si ou pou kondwir en review, si ou pou annan consultancy.

Korek Onorab ?
Korek Onorab ?

HON SEBASTIEN PILLLAY Mr Mersi, Mr Chairman.

Chairman, wi.

Mon ti’n vwar serten dezarmonizayson dan serten largiman ki pe ganny avanse sorti lot kote par lefe ki koman en Seselwa nou lafyerte se nou sitwayennte.

E mwan dimoun i kapab dir mwan sa ki i anvi, kot mon ti ete mon pa ti la 40an.

Mwan mon’n ne ‘78 e mon la ozordi, mon pe fer mon kontribisyon la ozordi.

E mon kontribisyon i se ki mon sitwayennte mon pei ou pa ganny li fasilman.

Ok?
Ok?

E prezan dan Lalwa nou’n dir poudir i annan dimoun ki’n ganny sitwayennte dan en fason ki nou pa ti’n devret gannyen.

Mwan, mon pa zis vin koz lo la mwan.

Mon’n vwar kote nou problenm i ete.

Onorab Naidu, atraver ou Mr Speaker, in mansyonn sa pwen.

Mon ti espekte ki i mansyon sa osi.

Me i pa’n fer li.

Mon a fer li pou li.

I annan en provizyon dan nou Konstitisyon ki kree en problenm e sa provizyon se Lartik 13 nou Konstitisyon.
E forward mon konnen going poudir i annan bann revi bann relate avek legal ki kad sitwayennte ki relate avek citizenship.

nou annan Kestyon ki mon ti pe demann ou, si atraver Bidze ou’n ganny okenn sipor pou annan consultancy, oubyen pou annan travay ki ganny fer lo revi sa bann kad legal zisteman en pou armonizasyon bann pozisyon an relasyon avek sitwayennte dan nou pei?
I en keksoz ki mwan personnelman mon krwar fermeman ladan, e ki mon konnen poudir i annan bokou Seselwa ki krwar ladan e sanmenm sa ki mon ti pe demann ou Minis pou fer en komanter lo la.

Mersi, Mr Chairman.

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85 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MR SPEAKER Mersi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mr Speaker.

Mersi Onorab.

Yes, i annan en travay lo kad legal ki pe ganny fer.

Obviously tousala through AG’s.


Me mon kontan ou’n anmenn sa size akoz i annan en keksoz ki mon krwar Lasanble pou bezwen gete at some point.

Ou konnen, ler en dimoun i vin lo GOP.

Mannyer mon pe vwar sa detrwa mwan ki mon dan Minister Internal Affairs.

I vin isi pou li travay li.

Ok ?

Li i vin ek en bi pou li travay e dan son nide mon eksepte ki dapre son kontra 2an/ 3an ki i annan.

Apre, ou ti a espekte ki apre sa 2an, 3an i fini i ale.
Me ki devlope konmela, i sa dimoun i vini ek sa volonte travay, me ler in arive i konmsa antre dan en lot mood.

I annan en lot mood ki i pe vwar.

La i pe devlop dan bann lezot posibilite pou li reste.

E nou annan serten Lalwa ki permet dimoun reste pli lontan depan lo zot kriter.

E mon krwar sa i en keksoz, mon pa pou al dan detay.

Selman nou pou bezwen revwar at certain point, akoz sa premye latansyon pou li vin travay laplipar letan i ganny sanz along the way.
E nou pou bezwen at some point regard byen ki mannyer nou pou swiv sa.

sa.

I annan bann pei parey Canada ki toultan napa ase dimoun dan zot pei, so, zot ankouraz Ankouraz dimoun pou vini.

Me kot nou’n la, petet nou bezwen arive revwar at some point ki mannyer nou pou deal ek sa.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Ok. Nou ti’n ariv lo citizenship.

Mon pa konnen si oule termin lo la.

Ou dernyen pwen.

Mon HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY Mersi, Mr Chairman.

Mr Chairman, mon remersi Minis pou son larepons.


Mon annan zi sen dernyen pti kestyon pou i Minis.

posibleman i kapab met Minis dan en pozisyon en pti pe difisil pou reponn.

Me in any case mon bezwen demann sa kestyon Minis akoz ou Minis pou Zafer Entern e ou ki kontrol nou bann borders.

konnen Nou’n vwar sityasyon kot Maurice koman in vwar detrwa ka devlope in close son border, e nou Sesel nou pe efektivman roll pou nou al ver en full opening of international borders.

Eski ou Minis ou santi poudir pg.


86 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 avek resours ki ou annan dan Bidze e sityasyon konpleks ki nou annan pour lemoman.

Eski sa i en desizyon ki dan lentere pei a sa moman?

lo en lanfaz Akoz, eski nou pa devret fini nou met vaksinasyon which the most important thing.

Ki deryer pou kantite koriz misapprehension ki pe annan.

Mr Chairman, mon pa konnen si ou’n gannyen met okouran.

Me i pe ganny perpetuate par serten menm, mon pa oule impute.
Akoz lafason ki nou’n asize isi, i annan dimoun ki pe impute ki pe dir nou kont vaksen, nou pa oule pran vaksen.

E alors bann Manm LDS pe ganny... MR SPEAKER Non, mon krwar sa pa neseser.

Ok, ale.

HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY Ok. Ti enportan pou mon met sa lo rikord, Mr Chairman.

Pou fer kler ki napa personn ki kont vaksen isi.

MR SPEAKER Ok, annou termin lo sa pwen.

HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY E ki nou tou nou pe siport mezir Gouvernman pou vaksinen.
Me Minister eski ou krwar poudir Maurice i annan keksoz ki i konnen ki petet nou, nou pa konnen.

Mersi, Mr Chairman.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Minis ou a termin lo sa pwen border silvouple.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Wi.

Les mwan termin lo sa pwen Sityasyon Maurice, Maurice ki konnen.

Nou, nou konn nou sityasyon Sesel.

border.


(APPLAUSE) MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Me sityasyon Sesel ek rezilta vaccination program ki pe arive e osi sa downturn ki nou vwar pe arive, i montre ki sa stratezi ki nou’n swazir pou al ladan i pe marse.

Me sa i pa zis en kestyon wi nou pe fer sa, i pe mars byen and all that.

I en kestyon nesesite pou nou pei re lev en pti git son bann industry e re batir e o moman ki nou kapab fer sa nou bezwen fer li.

E nou’ n set en target.


Nou’n set en zour le 25, e nou bezwen.

Mon krwar Minister Lasante i konn byen.

I bezwen mobiliz tou ki nou vaccination program i al byen annord.

Me nou bezwen fer li.

I pa en moman pou tati tati, isi laba.

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87 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Pou bouz isi, pou reget, pou revwar.

Nou’n set en date, nou bezwen travay pou sa date.

Ok?

Nou bezwen fer sa e pei i bezwen osi re build son lekor, re fer dimoun vin dan lanplwa.
E i annan dimoun pa pe travay ozordi.

Ok, i annan dimoun dan bann Tourist Industry ki pa pe travay, you know?

So, nou bezwen fer sir ki sa bann lotel, sa bann diferan tourism establishment i kick start nou ekonomi ankor enn fwa.

E mon krwar nou tou, nou’n set nou date.

Annou travay for dan sa direksyon.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

pou Department MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Avek sa nou’n ariv a lafen kestyon.

E nou a pas lo vot of Immigration & Civil Status.

Manm ki.

Oops, eskiz mwan, mon bezwen.


Wi mon bezwen re lir.

Bidze pou Department of Immigration & Civil Status i lo paz 200 ziska 206 e i pou en Bidze total R64milyon 809 mil.

Manm ki an faver lev lanmen silvouple?

Byen, okenn ki kont.

Mersi.

Lo Bidze pou Department of Immigration & Civil Status i lo paz 290 ziska 296.

Wi, pou en Bidze total R64milyon 809 mil in ganny 33 vot pour,0 vot kont e 0 abstansyon.

Alors Bidze in aprouve par Lasanble pou sa head.

Mersi.
Mersi.

DEPARTMENT OF PRISON MR SPEAKER Me mon krwar nou a komans lo lot item.

Lot entity, menm si nou siz komanse, apre nou a pran break.

E sa se Department of Prison.

Les mon a regard mon lalis.

Ah, mon krwar nou dir orevwar Mr Alain Volcere, Mr e Mrs Michel Elizabeth Bodombo-James e nou remersi zot pou zot partisipasyon.

(PS VOLCERE AND HIS DELEGATION WAS EXCUSED FROM THE HOUSE) MR SPEAKER Alor mersi e orevwar.

E avek sa nou ava apel zofisye pou Departman Prizon silvouple.
Superintendent MR SPEAKER Bonn apre midi Mr Raymond St Ange, of Seychelles Prison e ankor enn fwa Ms. Tasianna Labrosse, Senior Accountant.

Nou a pran Bidze pou Department of Prison ki lo paz 266 ziska 271 pou en total R79milyon 607mil.

Minis pg.

88 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 nou a envit ou pou lentrodiksyon.

fer MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi, Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, Manm Onorab.


Wi, fwa Bidze pou ankor enn Departman Prizon i R79mil 607, 490, i fer en decrease par 9poursan konpare ek Bidze 2020.

En decrease de R7milyon 402, 167.

Dan sa Bidze Mr Speaker, ‘wages and salaries’ i 27.5milyon.

‘Goods and services’ 51.1 e ‘non- financial assets 851 thousand.’ Mr Speaker, si nou get ‘use of goods and services’ anba in-kind’ i annan en ‘wages logmantasyon 213 mil.
Anba ‘office expenses’ i annan en rediksyon R185.8mil e sa i plito en rediksyon dan bill elektrisite.

Telefonn par 526mil.

I annan en pti logmantasyon lo uniform 134mil e i annan en rediksyon dan delo dan 248mil.

en Ler nou desann lo ‘transportation and travel cost’ ou pou vwar en rediksyon 1.3milyon, ki en rediksyon ki rediksyon dan konpri kou transportasyon, en transportasyon rediksyon dan rental of buses pou staff transportation.
I annan osi en rediksyon dan airfares, bann landrwa Inner Islands e tou bann.

E ladan i dan osi e annan osi en bout pou bann ‘repatriation foreign prisoners.’ of get Ler lo nou ‘maintenance ek repairs’ nou annan en rediksyon 1.2milyon ki nou’n fer, ki enkli bann rediksyon dan nou solid waste management.

En rediksyon dan ‘repair and maintenance ‘Montagne Posée.
I annan en pti, bann ‘minor maintenance ‘dan prizon ki pe arive e the maintenance pou veikil i annan en pti ladan akoz increase serten kou pou bann veikil.

annan ‘materials Dan and supplies’ nou en decrease, en rediksyon 3milyon e ladan dan sa 3milyon i annan en rediksyon dan food rations e par diferan fason depans lo rasyon pou bann prizonnyen.

I annan en kou ladan ki kouver bann uniform pou inmates.
E ler nou get lo other ‘goods and services ‘nou annan en increase of R676 mil 791 e dan sa increase i annan en increase 1.9milyon ki pou kouver bann Nepalese and Tanzanians salaries.

I annan fees dapre training plan.

‘Training fees e osi office building rent’ in ganny redwir par 921 e sa i plito sa, nou’n koze parey bomaten.

Lo sa rediksyon ki training lo pg.

89 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 nou pe ganny fer lo bann rent ki nou fer ek bann landrwa prive.
Dan ‘minor capital outlays’ nou annan en increase of R592, 251.

Sa i pou ‘acquisition lo apre transportation’ ‘acquisition security equipment’ R224mil.

and of So basically sa bann decrease i osi akoz en bann proze ki ti ganny fund dan 2020.

Sa bann proz ti’n fini ganny fund an 2020 e alors pa pe aprann la.

I annan retention en amount of 2 51 thousand, en retention ki pou sa search room.

Apre i annan en refurbishment of cell blocks amounting to R6 hundred thousand.
Sa an zeneral i en pti rezimen lo ‘use of good and services.’ E an se moman Mr les Manm Speaker, mon a Lasanble bann zot kestyon lo lezot item.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

raise MR SPEAKER Mersi Minis.

Mon a verifye mon lalis avan nou komans kestyon.

Mon annan Onorab Pillay, Lemiel, Aglae, Vidot, Loizeau, Mondon, Uranie, Zialor, Roucou Bistoquet, Michel, Andre, Labrosse, Romain, Samynadin, William e Henrie.

Korek sa?

Onorab Loze ou lo la ou osi ?

Ok. Tre byen.

Nou a komans avek Onorab Zialor, lo kote isi.


HON NADDY ZIALOR Mersi, Mr Speaker.

Bonn apre midi Minis, bonn apre midi tou dimoun.

Minis anliny avek bann foreign workers Nepale ek Tanzanian ki ou’n nonmen dan ou leksplikasyon la, eski ou kapab dir avek nou ki kantite zot annan kot prizon ki pe travay dan Departman Prizon.

E petet an term of zot package, kantite pei pe depanse?

E avek sitasyon ekonomik ki nou annan la, eski zot pe masin ranplas sa bann foreigners avek Seselwa.

Well trained byensir?


Dezyenmman anliny avek bann rediksyon ki mon tann Departman Prizon pe antisipe, e byensir en popilasyon Seselwa laba, ki progranm zot annan pou fer prizon Montagne Posée vin otosifizan?

Mersi Mr Speaker annan nou MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Panel, lekel ki pou Yes, adrese?

komans Superintendent.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mr Chairman, bonzour.

Mersi bokou.

Mersi Onorab pou ou Mersi Minis.

kestyon.

traver la bann Aktyelman pg.


90 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 zofisye etranz ki nou annan se 16 ki sorti Tanzanian Prison Service, en rediksyon ki ’n sorti 22 in tonm 16 la.

Akoz an mwayen ki travay i kontinyen, nou koman reduce.

E 48 zofisye sorti kot Nepal.

On average zot saler i $900 e zot ganny boarding as wel avek provizyon manze.

Sorry.

MR SPEAKER Wi, ale.

Manm i dir zot pa tro konpran ou.

Kekfwa lavwa i en pti pe … SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Eskiz mwan.
Nepale nou annan 48 zofisye Nepal e 16 zofisye sorti kot Letanazi Prison Service.

I en rediksyon.

Nou ti annan 22 avan e nou ti annan apepre 60 ekek Nepale.

So, anmezir ki travay i kontinyen, nou’n reduce kot nou ete la ozordi.

E saler de baz, average saler i $900 e nou osi nou provide them with meal and boarding avek en tiket pou retourn dan zot pei.
Nou progranm i pe, anmezir ki nou pe les bann kontra terminen, nou annan plizyer zofisye Népal ki’n retourn dan zot pei deza e nou pe angaze la pou replace zot avek local competent officers.

E aktyelman la demen nou annan en second faz recruitment, interview ki pe ganny fer avek 18 Seselwa pou bann pozisyon dan prizon.

Mersi bokou.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Nou a pran Onorab Lemiel.

zot HON SYLVANNE LEMIEL Mersi Mr Chair.

Bonn apre midi Superintendent, avek ou koleg.

Bonn apre midi tou lezot dimoun.


Dan bann achievements zot in mete ki zot in konplet konstriksyon barak kot prizon.

Mon ti a kontan konnen petet konbyen barak zot in konstri?

Lekel ki’n konstri sa bann barak?

E konbyen in kout prizon pou konstri sa bann barak?

Dezyenmman zot in dir osi ki zot in annan en solid waste disposal facilities, mon vwar en sonm R640mil si zot kapab donn nou en pe plis detay lo sa fasilite.

Kote i ete sa fasilite disposal solid waste?


annan osi anba ‘materials and supplies clothing and bed linen’, son Bidze in sorti 273mil pou vin 973mil.

Akoz sa gran ogmantasyon dan sa Bidze?

I pg.

91 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 ki sa bann Apre nou vwar housing osi in sorti 411 mil pou vin 725 mil.

Pou lakaz egzakteman ki zot pe peye?

Kote petet zot pe lwe e ki zot pe lwe sa bann lakaz pou sa sonm?
Eski zot pa’n al dan sistenm negosyasyon pou zot kapab ganny en rediksyon olye ki nou vwar pri in monte?

Anba governance osi zot annan allowance ki’n sorti, ler nou regarde Mr Chair, prizon osi en pe menm parey bomaten kot Internal Affairs.

Nou vwar ki mazorite ‘other allowances’ partou in monte e in mont par en gran gap.

En gran sonm.

So petet nou ti a kontan ganny en lesplikasyon anba sak sa bann heads in monte par en gro sonm, tre signifikan.
En legzanp anba ‘governance and administration’ in monte sorti 209 mil pou 978 mil.

E lezot landrwa osi in mont en pe, ti a bon nou ganny en lesplikasyon lo la?

Mersi Mr Chair.

MR SPEAKER Panel Mersi.

kestyon i ogmantasyon lo bann cost.

lekel bann lo mostly MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Mersi Mr Speaker.

Onorab.

Lo premye kestyon lekel ki ti konstri sa bann barak?

E nou pa konnen pou raport sa nou kapab find out ler ti E Superintendent i dir mwan i a find out pou nou.

konstri.
konstri.

ganny MR SPEAKER Superintendent pa konnen?

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Ale, ale.

MR SPEAKER Wi.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mr Chairman mon’n dir Minis sa ki nou recall we had run to a tender process, and aktyelman ti annan 3 lakonpannyen ki ti ganny for different projects kot prizon.

But I will find out the information and pass it to the to you Mr Chair.

Cause I don’t have the details of the exact contractors who won the tender.
But I know there are local contractors and prosedir i ganny fer pou tender process.

Se tou ki mon kapab dir.

Sorry mon Senior Accountant pe remind mon pe update mon ki pou barak Onorab it was Nick and Co Limited ki ti ganny sa tender.

Me parey mon’n dir mon other pa pe mazin the pg.

92 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 companies ki ti ganny awarded pou bann lezot proze.

MR SPEAKER Onorab ti osi demande konbyen in koute, eski ou annan sa lenformasyon?

Kote zot ete, wi?
Kote zot ete, wi?

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Sa barak in ganny konstri par lao en high security unit sa barak i ganny konstri par lao en high security unit kot Montagne Posée li menm.

E i annan plito bann staff etranze ladan etranzer etranze.

E kou osi mon bezwen akoz i pa dan mon memwar la.

I have to go and get the details for you.

Selman tender was transparent dapre prosedir e tender ti ganny awarded Nick & Co. the MR SPEAKER Bann lezot pwen.

Lekel ki pou adrese i annan.


MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Lo kestyon ki ou’n demande i lo solid waste disposal facility.

Ki kout R640 mil.

E kot sa i ete i kot Remand Centre.

Remand Centre Bois de Rose ok?

Ou lot kestyon clothing and bed linen, sa i to cater for inmates uniform.

Zot napa instant e nou uniform pou bezwen fer uniform pou bann inmates.

Lo kestyon allowances PS i ava kouver l lo la silvouple?

MR SPEAKER Wi ti annan en kestyon lo housing osi.

Letan ou lo la Minis oubyen Super.


SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mr Chairman si ou permet mon I’ll ask my Senior Accountant to update lo housing e uniform akoz i annan en increase parey Minis in koz lo la.

E kote sa uniforms pe ale.

Mon a demann Ms Labrosse pou zis update.

MR SPEAKER Yes Ms Labrosse.

ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASIANNA LABROSSE Bonn apre midi tou dimoun.

Mersi Onorab pou ou kestyon.

Ou ti’n demann increase lo housing ou?


Sa increase lannen pase nou pa ti ganny en Bidze ti napa Bidze pou pey housing.

Prezan nou’n bezwen fer virement pou nou kapab peye.

Prezan apre la sa lannen nou’n met sa larzan baze lo sa actual konmsi baze lo zot actual cost ki nou pou peye.

Prezan ou ti le konnen kote konbyen i annan lakaz.

Actually avan nou ti annan 5. pg.

93 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 La prezan nou annan 4.

I baze mon kapab dir ou kote i annan enn Reef Estate.
I annan enn Madarine Estate, i annan enn Baie Lazare avek enn briyan.

Sa bann ou le konn konmsi.

MR SPEAKER Lekel ki servi, lekel ki?

ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASIANNA LABROSSE Konmsi nou pe sa bann lakaz nou pe lwe pou bann expatriate prison officer.

Prezan i pou sa enn Reef Estate, i pou Anglikann, Mandarine Estate i pou Judy i pou Mondon Baie Lazare Harold Pothin avek Briyan Marie-Ange Andrade.

MR SPEAKER Tre byen ou’n satisfe Onorab?

Wi lekel ankor?

Mikro silvouple madanm.


HON SYLVANNE LEMIEL Mr Chair i annan en lot bout kestyon lo kote allowance apre ou a reponn mon.

Me selman Mr Chair zis pou nou kontinyen dan menm laliny, zot in dir ki i deza annan mon panse sa bann lakaz etranze ki ladan.

So sa bann barak ki’n ganny konstri la i pou lekel?

Etranze Seselwa?

Akoz i ankor annan Seselwa ki ankor dan lakaz lwe?

Dan sa bann distrik ki’n ganny nonmen.

E ki sa bann barak pa’n cater pou zot tou?


Konbyen unit konmsi zot in konstri sa bann barak la konbyen unit i annan?

Mersi.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mr Chairman, nou’n konstri en i annan apepre en barak E zofisye.

kapasite 60 aktyelman la se mon Polisi se pou konmans met bachelors ki Seselwa ladan osi.

E aktyelman nou annan 2 la aktyelman ki dan barak, larestan byensir zot annan zot fanmir zot pe reste dan lakaz.

De zofisye Seselwa ki pe reste dan barak.


E pou Montagne Posee nou annan 2 a 3 Tanzanian ki nou’n bouz zot nou’n tir zot dan lakaz, nou’n met zot anler dan barak e larestan se larestan bann bed i pou bann Népalais, ki zot osi byento nou pe tir zot Bois de Rose pou anmenn zot Montagne Posée.

E anmezir ki sa i ganny fer, e nou konmans redwir nou reliance lo foreign staff nou konmans rann lakaz osi.
E si i annan ankor plas nou ava met akoz occupancy, nou ava met ankor bann zofisye lo teren Montagne Posée dan sa barak.

pg.

94 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Sa barak i annan son lasanm, son bann lasanm i annan son bann twalet, i annan son lakwizin, i annan son lasal a manze eksetera.

E nou’n fer sa akoz enn pou lozistik, si i annan en problenm redwir nou bann kou lo transpor, e pou improve lo kote konteks sekirite Montagne Posée osi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Wi lo size allowance wi.


PS DAMIEN THESEE Mersi Mr Chair.

Sa bann issue allowance i annan pou fer avek en reallocation parey nou pe get dan progranm 1 nou pou vwar pou 2020 ti annan larzan anba PSE allowance.

E pou 2021 napa, in pli zou mwen reallocate li kot i neseser.

So i bann fot ki ganny fer ennler dan klasifikasyon Bidze avek spesifik allowances, so tou le lannen nou vwar sa bann fot nou tire nou met li dan son alokasyon.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Nou a pran en poz la.


E nou a repran 4:10.

Mersi.

(BREAK) MR SPEAKER Nou a kontinyen avek Onorab Bistoquet.

HON ROSIE BISTOQUET Mersi Mr Chair.

Bonn apre midi Mr Chair.

Bonn apre midi Minis ek ou delegasyon.

si zot Mr Chair through ou mon le demann Minis Zafer Entern avek son delegasyon, lo kote Bidze pou prizon mon tip e gete en pti pe konbyen human annan.

resource Anyways zot in deza dir nou pou konbyen expatriate konbyen Seselwa ou annan travayer.

Sirtou bann Seselwa.


E anba ou Bidze mon remarke ki i annan en decrease, pou human resource in regards to salaries.

Lot kestyon i annan enn de ki larestan in fini reponn.

Ou koz lo sa package ki bann expatriate ti gannyen, e letan mon’n sel kalkile, ou a dir mon ou menm si sanmenm sa letan round up sa figures, i apepre for zot ganny dir $900 apre zot Zot ganny accommodation.
ganny larestan keksoz parey airfares, e ler mon konte eski Departman Prizon i pare pou donn menm kalite par egzanp saler en travay Seselwa?

Ler mon konte i ariv apepre R30 mil dan en mwan ki zot depanse.

An plis ki sa mon’n vwar anba ou strategy, ou’n dir ki ou pou kree plis loportinite pou kapab financial.

achieve pg.

95 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Sustainability.
Me selman mon pa’n vwar dan ou Bidze ki mannyer ou pou li, ki mannyer ou pou fer li e sirtou mon pa vwar okenn bout ki ou met ki i annan pou fer avek Grants?

fer En lot keksoz ankor ki bann travayer lasante demann mon pou demann ou, se ki zot napa sekirite ler zot vin travay dan prizon, akoz sa klinik kot i ete menm ki deza bann ki la i anndan dan li menm dan compound prizon kot zonm i ete.
En lot keksoz mon’n tann ou koz lo la taler se ki bann travayer byento pou reste dan en well en quarters housing quaters pre avek prizon.

Eski ou krwar sa i pou koz okenn sekirite pou prizonnyen, pou prizonnyen li menm?

Apre mon pe regarde si zot ankor annan conjugal visit kot prizon?

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

I annan en pe bokou kestyon.

Panel lekel wi Superintendent.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.

Mersi Onorab.
Mersi Onorab.

Mon a profite vitman zis pou eklersi en keksoz lo lodging.

Ler Tanzanian ti vini ti annan en lot laranzman e zot ti la apepre 1an dan sa lokasyon, zot tou ansanm.

E nou ti vwar ler nou ti fer cost analaysis ki pou met zot dan lakaz le nou’n koz ek bann landlord pou redwir nou pri.

Nou’n pran 5 lakaz nou’n redwir 4 lentansyon ankor pou redwir e konmans transfer dimoun anler dan barak.

Mersi.
Mersi.

Lo an se ki konsern sekirite pou klinik, aktyelman klinik i pa dan main block Montagne Posée parey i ti été avan, i an deor i dan en landrwa zis par ki nou apel gate 13 par deor main block i dan milye nou campus.

I annan serten lenkyetid wi, ki staff welfare, counselling e klinik li menm in dir, se pou sa rezon nou’n rod lasistans pou transfer zot nou’n ganny nou en container ki nou pou, nou menm nou, nou pou travay lo la, nou pou.

E staff i konn tre byen sa pou tir zot ladan.


E selman welfare ek counsellor pou reste dan sa sityasyon dan sa building la ki apel welfare counselling building.

E avek bann pou landrwa counselling avek kondannen.

a pou Mon Tasianna reponn allowances and I think answered all the questions.

demann Ms lo I’ve ki MR SPEAKER pg.

96 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Mersi.

WI Mrs Labrosse.

ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASIANNA LABROSSE Bonn apre midi ankor enn fwa.
Mersi Onorab pou ou kestyon konsernan ou ti pe gete anba administrasyon ou dir in ou vwar poudir i annan en decrease konmsi son budget in decrease.

Sa parey PS Thesee in fek prononse akoz nou’n bezwen fer reallocation anba bann respective accounts Code, akoz ti annan bann dimoun ki ti tonm nou’n fer en migration of staff.

Ti annan bann dimoun ki ti tonm anba prezan nou’n bezwen met zot anba zot respektif programme kot zot tonbe.

Apre konsernan ou ti pe gete konbyen dimoun i annan anba administrasyon non?
Mon’n anmenn mon payroll February la, mon annan 19 anba administrasyon mon annan 19 staff pou lemoman.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Wi Mr St Ange.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Lo staff nou annan Seselwa.

We have 121 staff lokal, 64 foreigners.

Lo sustainability byensir we’re picking up lo sa proze ki vin en konmanse an 2014 call the Green the prison project ki ti ganny konmanse Sirentandan par ansyen Prizon sa letan.

And nou’n re angaz nou avek UNDP and GEF funding, Friend of Prison osi.
Nou’n vwar bokou diskisyon avek zot fer solar par egzanp pou heating, solar heating for water, rain water harvesting, bann keksoz koumsa.

E nou pe entansifye osi kot Montagne Posée.

I pe vin deplizanpli annord.

nou So these are some other ways ki nou pe pouse 2021.
And the other things as well madanm Onorab, se pou pouse lo rehabilitation programme, kot nou konmans depans en pe dan sa fon lo bann proze i ganny kot nou pa bezwen rely lo Bidze pou serten proze ki nou menm nou, nou kapab fund, atraver bann proze ki nou fer economic spin; par egzanp ler nou al bat kannel konmdir, sa 1 poursantaz i pou al dan nou fon ADR, ki’n kapab servi sa pou fer maintenance pou fer pou ed lo kote konteks reabilitasyon.

Se sa lide.
Se sa lide.

MR SPEAKER Superintendent zis pou nou move on pou nou soz, i annan son kestyon lo package pou pg.

97 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 expatriate konpare avek lapey pou Seselwa.

HON ROSIE BISTOQUET Sorry Mr Speaker i annan 2 kestyon pa’n reponn i annan package pou Seselwa i annan conjugal visit apre i annan security pou prizonnyen, pou prizonnyen letan bann staff i vin reste dan quarters dan bor kot prizon.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Wi petet ou’n demann bokou in mank en pe.
sanmenm Mersi.

Superintendent.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Lo kote sekirite byensir the layout design the barracks, pa pou permet ni kondannen oubyen staff pou akse sak ward, be nou vwar li en pozitiv pa negativ.

Lo conjugal visits larepons se non.

Napa sa, selman in ganny demande.

E byensir nou bezwen diskite.

Mon dan mon menm mon lopinyon se nou kapab get ladan.
Mon krwar mon konnen i pou vin kontrovers, be i bezwen desizyon koumsa ganny kominike, i bezwen ganny avek byensir Minis avek lezot sosyete and to see what other prison jurisdiction zot fer ok?

sa lannen ladan.
sa lannen ladan.

And package nou’n travay lo nouvo Scheme of Service byensir, ki nou pou re entrodwir ankor avek Minis, mon krwar pa si pou ganny aksepte akoz Be sityasyon nou byensir nou pe aim pou nou 2021 kot i pou balans en pe plis sa bann kalite travay ki nou pe fer, an konsiderasyon travay ki nou bann local staff i donnen, pou lev zot saler en pe pli akoz konpetisyon, byensir.

So I think the new Scheme of Service pa I think I know the new Scheme of lot of Service addresses a la inadequacies konmela.
egziste i MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Labrosse.

HON RICHARD LABROSSE Bonn apre midi Mr Speaker.

Ankor enn fwa bonn apre midi panel.

Sirentandan Prizon mon kestyon I vize ver sekirite e prizonnyen osi ki Montagne Posée.

Ki apre tou zot reste en imen.

Mon ti a kontan dan sa konnen dan sa Bidze si i annan en finans ki’n ganny mete akoz zis zot sekirite, me osi kot sekirite zot compound li menm.

Mon pe demann sa akoz dan mon distrik osi lannen pase, nou’n perdi en zenn pou pg.
98 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 rezon pa konnen vreman kwa selman i ti servi son labi dan prizon.

Apre mon dezyenm kestyon lo prizonnyen menm.

Mon konnen ki i annan en progranm ki apel Phoenix 2 ki li mon konnen zot ti pe target bann prizonnyen ki lo en pti pe lo risk.

dan partisipan La vi ki nou en pe dan en problenm finansyel, eski prizon li menm zot annan en plan ouswa kekfwa pou revwar sa bann sa progranm e ki zot pou fer avek pou retourn zot dan lasosyete?
E mon dernyen kestyon i lo ankor prizon ki zot ti pe konstri dapre mon konpran an 2014 ti annan en konstriksyon lo Coetivy pou en prizon.

Mon ti ava konnen ganny plis detay lo la please.

Thank you.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Superintendent.

Onorab.

Wi SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Wi Mr Chairman.

Onorab project Phoenix an se moman i annan 3 progranm, progranm 1, 2 e 33.

E wi aktyelman nou pe re angaz nou vi ki pei pe ouver.
Aktyelman demen mon annan en follow-up meeting avek Lasante pou kontinyen vaccination avek vaksen pou larestan bann kondannen pou bann kliyan ki 285 zot.

An sekirite, term malerezman dan en prizon i en lanvironnman prizon sosyete dan li menm, nou byensir nou baz nou lopresyon lo Nelson Mandela rules.

Nou training plan pou sa lannen se pou kontinyen train nou bann staff, avek lasistans UNODC.

Aktyelman nou pe koz avek zot la.

Lasistans prizon servis prizon Israel, ki Zafer Etranzer pe kontakte mon ankor.
Byento nou pou al diskit avek Maurice.

Prison service joint prison Maurice technical Committee.

lo en Standar nou pe adopte set en standar universel.

E avek sa bann mezir sa bann lapros mon krwar pa mon krwar mon konnen akoz bann data pe montre nou ki pli an plis Montagne Posée pe vin plis stab.

E nou rekonnet zefor pa zis staff, nou rekonnet zefor tou kondannen, nou bann kliyan ki pe partisip aktivman.
E pozitivman dan nou progranm reabilitasyon zot konnen ki pozitivite i anmenn pozitivite e se sa ki nou pe espekte.

Selman konteks prizon toultan i annan en posibilite pou en keksoz flair up nou pg.

99 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 li vin en akoz malerezman nou annan en minorite kondannen ki en pe high risk.
E sanmenm sa mon ti dir lannen dernyen ki mon lentansyon Montagne Posée se pou risk rehabilitation prison, e pou annan en high risk unit pou bann ki kontan retourn prizon e zot kontinyen fer komet zot bann lofans, oubyen for drug trafficking pou annan en high security prison e sa nou pe get pli tar pou sa lapros.

low MR SPEAKER Wi Onorab.

HON RICHARD LABROSSE Mersi Sirentandan pou reponn mon kestyon.
Sirentandan apre i annan en zafer ankor ki mon’n tann ou nonmen la, mon ti a kontan ganny en pti leksplikasyon.

Ou’n dir ki i annan 121 staff lokal, 48 Népalais, e 16 Tanzanian.

Mon ti ava kontan konnen konmsi kantite prizonnyen zot annan eski zot annan plis travayer ki prizonnyen konmsi lo en ratio konmsi?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi, wi.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.


Onorab mon’n oubliy pou mansyonn Coetivy;- Coetivy prizon ti mon ti fer nou ferm sa progranm travay lo Coetivy 2019 pou bann rezon ki mon ti deklare sa letan.

E avek Lagreman avek IDC nou pe re angaz nou lo la nenport ler nenport moman dan sa peryod Mars pou retourn en cohort 6 apre 12 apre 30 avek staff pas laba, anba avek korporasyon IDC.
Bann building i ankor la, byen annord so nou ekspekte ki sa pou vin vreman an bon pou prizon bon pou IDC en bon pou Nasyon.

Pou bann fanmir pou rehabilitate bann kondannen.

As concern the ratio of staff mazinen ki nou pe progrese nou, nou pe evolye.

So i annan staff ki fer louvraz sekirite.

I annan staff ki louvraz custodial.

fer I annan en diferans.

Custodial i anndan dan blok, sekirite i an deor, selman zot tou zot asiste ler en keksoz i arive.

Nou annan nou 64 madanm ki pe travay dan prizon.


E dan servis prizon.

Dan sa 64 i annan nurse, i i annan annan counsellors, annan welfare administrasyon.

officers, i So nou bezwen dimoun pou siport travay prizon.

Apre pg.

100 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 nou annan zofisye ki travay zis direkteman lo baz sekirite avek custodial avek kondannen avek nou bann kliyan.

So larepons se non, we are not disproportionally more staff for inmates.

We are just about right.


Me selman we are still fine tuning pou sanmenm a petet lo payroll ou vwar lazistaz kot dimoun in ganny mete dan en landrwa dan lepase, e la zot pe ganny right fitted pou zot dan bann pozisyon kot zot sipoze ete.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Loze.

vwar HON JOHAN LOZE Mersi Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker enteresan mon li in mansyonn Superintendent the Nelson Mandela Rules.

Enn bann keksoz ki zot promote se the use of a half way house dan criminal justice system.
En half- way house kot ou al abrit ou bann very low risk, ki near completion of sentence ouswa pou pe plan donn license at- large.

Kot ou kapab kit zot minimum supervision e zot reste overnight zot al travay lizour.

Be la kot nou trouv nou dan en sityasyon kot nou pou bezwen degres prizon li menm, e ou pe plan en low risk prison environment.

Mon kestyon se eski ou pe mazin annan en half- way house pou prizon Sesel lonterm?
E si ou pe anvizaz Bidze pou sa ouswa put up en proze avek UNODC ki evantyelman ou ava nobou degres bann inmates ki ou lockdown environment kot prizon?

Mersi Mr Speaker.

dan MR SPEAKER Mersi Superintendent.

Onorab.

Yes SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.

Onorab wi aktyelman this is the line of Nou approach we annan 3 categories of prisoners, high risk, medium risk low risk.

E nou pou entrodwir en katriyenm Trustees.

taking.
taking.

E la aktyelman monn annan 14 nou annan 14 ki lo License 11 msye 3 madanm.

Ki progranm pee mars ase byen.

Mersi bokou.

And avek sipor probasyon avek welfare officers ki fer en swivi.

So lide se pou konstri sa low risk facility ki ava donn serten plis privilez pou bann nou bann kondannen ki pe prepar zot pe pou sorti.

E deza sa striktir i la.

Nou an diskisyon i annan MHILT pe vini Zedi prosen pe kliyan bann pg.

101 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 vin fer en survey lo teren.
Nou annan serten keksoz petet nou kapab fer sa lannen hopeully nou kapab ganny sipor bann Minis e i pa la dan nou Bidze e selman me selman mon krwar avek en be shuffling of the budget resources nou kapab pe get target en keksoz sa lannen pou konmans bouz bann low risk ki pe prepar zot pou fini zot santans pou stabilize them before they go out.

I annan en lot lapse servis prizon osi ki nou anvi fer, se the follow-up after care.

Ki nou, nou konn nou kliyan.


Pou fer en swivi avek zot parey nou konmans pe fer an mezir ki nou pe travay avek en bon pe ki’n sorti resaman pe fer swivi pe rod pe gete si zot al kot lanplwa eksetera ki staff probasyon avek welfare aktyelman pe fer sa.

Ozordi avan mon’n vin mon’n al dan en housing estate pou get enn nou bann kliyan pou gete ki mannyer i été depi ler in sorti.
In rod lapwentman pou mon avek i pa’n vini yer mon pe al rod li pou gete ki son sityasyon se sa sa kalite servis ki nou anvi al dan sa direksyon.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab Henrie.

HON GERVAIS HENRIE Meri Mr Chair.

Bonn apre midi tou dimoun.

Mr Chair mon reste avek konviksyon ki i annan en sistenm prizon lenpak socioeconomic lo pei.

E dabor mon a fer en obzervasyon pou permet dimoun konpran sa sityasyon.

Ozordi i annan 64 etranze ki pe travay dan sistenm prizon.

16 Tanzanian, 48 Népalais.


Zot ganny peye $900 par mwan ki ekivalan lo to lesanz ozordi R19 mil 800.

An total sa bann etranze sa 64 zot.

Zot saler i ariv $ 77 mil 600 ki ekivalan 1milyon 277 mil 200.

Ouswa R15milyon 206 mil 400 par mwan.

E sa Seselwa laba deor i bezwen konpran ki kalite presyon i mete lo rezerv pei.

Akoz sa bann larzan pe ale pa pe reste isi.


anvi So mwan mon demann premye kestyon, eski dan sa sityasyon la avek napa FA4JR napa URS nou pa kapab pran en desizyon konmsi rod 75 Seselwa ki kapab fer sa travay e donn zot en saler apepre R16 mil ranplas sa 64 etranze dan short term.

Eski mon fou pou mon mazin en nide koumsa?

Sa i mon premye kestyon.

Dezyenmman Mr Speaker bann mon zafer achievement sekirite, phone detector lo man enn in met vwar pg.
102 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 letan mon get televizyon mon i annan aprann ki poudir progranm methadone dan prizon savedir drog i ankor pe antre swa dimoun i pe depan lo drog.

E prizonnyen pe call mwan.

Lo mon mobile ou isi dan Lasanble.

I swear zot pe call mwan.

So i annan en problenm dan prizon.

Mon pa anvi prizonnyen call mon i zot responsabilite fer prizonnyen aret call mon.
pou E finalman Mr Speaker lo redwir popilasyon prizon mon swiv avek en kestyon ki mon ti demande pou Bidze 2020.

E sa letan en msye ki ti la mon’n bliy son non, en Ghislain konmsi non?

I ti dir ek mwan poudir zot pou konmans zot pou en konversasyon avek tou bann criminal stakeholders Kote sa justice system.

konversasyon i ete ozordi ler nou pe koze an Mars 2021?

Mersi.

dan MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Mersi Onorab.

Panel.

Yes Superintendent.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Thank you Mr Chairman.
Ok lo konteks pli boner mon ti dir prison environment, wi e it’s law to actually against the receive and communicate with inmate and obviously it should not be entertained.

E nou travay toulezour pou rod lentelizans e resaman Oktob, Novanm, nou’n vwar ki malerezman nou bezwen fer ale serten staff.

Pou bann act of corruption and illegal activity dan prizon.

E nou pe follow- up avek Attorney Zeneral ek Lapolis, pou fer sir ki lo sa bann ka.
E petet sa osi i reponn ou kestyon lo foreign staff, konpare avek local staff.

Demen pou 2 zour nou annan nou 18 Seselwa ki’n vin devan, pou rod plas travay.

E byensir avek background check, nou bezwen fer sir ki napa okenn eksetera, eksetera.

Be mon konvenki nou kapab rod bann dimoun ki avek kalifikasyon e kalib pou travay dan prizon Sesel Seselwa.

lenfliyans Nou annan en plan pou konmans tradwir nou foreign staff.

Nou pa vwar ki pou ariv sa 100poursan lannen.

reduction.
reduction.

reduction Me selman at Avek Tanzania nou annan MOU ki permet nou pou mentenir, e mazinen MOU ek Tanzania ti ganny fer ler ti annan en kriz travayer.

Nou ti mank serten pozisyon lo kot konteks custodual avek sekirite.

Akoz napa byen, byen travay dimoun ki anvi al pg.

103 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 aktyelman.

Petet la.

akoz reform ki nou’n fer, bann travay ki nou’n fer, petet ou vwar plis servis prizon i dan latansyon medya.
Nou outreach nou outgoing nou transparent, nou koz avek dimoun, nou koz avek bann Manm;- nou al koz ek bann fanmir nou angaz nou.

E la dimoun pe dir be why not we work with the prison service?

sa, Nou welcome sa lapros.

So sa nou siporte.

Be will must also acknowledge the benefit of a trained prisoner officer sorti Tanzania.

And the background of the Népalais ki’n train dan larme, pou vin isi pou travay in kit son pei pou vini isi.
Me nou pa vwar ki zot bezwen - nou pa krwar zot bezwen reste isi pou en kantite letan 4 years to 5 years apre zot ale.

E nou redwir.

E nou bann data i montre ki nou pe redwir aktyelman - ok?

Telefonn i en defayans.

Mon konnen konbyen telefonn i annan dan prizon, lekel ki pe servi lentelizans.
Si nou tyonbo sa kordonen byensir – Mon’n fek dir enn yer lot zour, mon dir ‘’I am thinking about bringing charges against you, would you like to stay longer in prison?’’ E sa kestyon ki bann dimoun nou bann kliyan bezwen apresye.

Zot fatige dan prizon, be pa break prison regulations!

E staff pa anmenn mobile.

E nou tre kontan ki nou’n bouz dan nou nouvo security building anba, e nou pe vwar nou’n met en pe zistans avek nou bann kontrol konpare par avan.
E nou pe vwar bokou plis benefis, fason pe nou pe operate konmela, ki avan.

MR SPEAKER Wi Minis.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Mr Speaker.

Mon anvi fer en pti pwen resorti lo sa ki Onorab Henrie in soumet.

Ou konnen mon krwar pa si okenn dimoun pa ti a kontan vwar dan tou sa bann louvraz vwar zis Seselwa.

Nou tou nou ti a kontan sa.

Me nou bezwen fer fas osi avek realite.

I annan en laspe sekirite osi, ki annan etranze e menm sa pa 100poursan osi.
Sanmenm toultan mon pe diskit ek Superintendent ki nou pa les en etranze tro lontan isi.

Akoz dan landrwa prizon ou pe deal ek menm, menm dimoun toulezour ou pe vwar menm figir, menm zafer, i pa pou lontan ziska ler familarity i konmans kole.

E nou, nou bezwen fer sir dan rezon sekirite ki nou annan en formalite ant ou security staff ek ou prizonnyen.

E sa i fasil pg.

104 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 pou oubliye sa.

A en moman ki ou pe viv ek sa bann dimoun tou lazournen.
Nou So sa bout etranze i en enportan.

vwar kontinyelman sityasyon kot en gard i ganny enfliyanse.

Mon pa le al dan detay ki mannyer sa i arive.

Me ase pou mwan dir zot ki sa lenfliyans i ganny fer ek en skim byen stratezik.

Ki sa dimoun, pa ler ou kalkile be ganny boug akoz enfliyanse?

I pa ariv overnight sa.

sa i I arive ki en group dimoun an deor ki pa dan prizon i ale i travay lo sa dimoun kot i ete se li, dan son vwazen, dan son kanton dan son distrik kot i ete.
E i met li dan en sityasyon ki i oubliye ki sa bon dimoun ki’n donn li, ki’n ed li en kantite i en move dimoun.

Ti a pe ed li zis pou fer li pou manz pou fer li manz dan son labwet.

Ou konpran mwan?

I annan tousala, so nou konponan Tanzanian ek nou konponan Népalais i enportan pou sa moman ki nou ete la.

Mon hope nou ariv en sityasyon ki nou deal ek en ponnyen sa bann menas ki pe arive dan nou pei, lo kestyon narkotik espesyalman, ki nou arive dan sa pozisyon ki ou’n mansyonnen.
Me pou lenstan la mon pa vwar sa pe arive sa lannen lot lannen.

E nou bezwen mentenir.

Me selman i vre sa ki ou dir.

I annan en gro laspe socio economic impact lo la, lo tousala.

Realite me selman nou bezwen travay lo la.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Wi Superintendent.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mon ti’n bliye ki Onorab in lo demann criminal i So byensir stakeholders.

korek sa ki Deputy Sirentandan Ghislain ti dir.


Nou depi 2an pase nou konmans angaz plis avek serten stakeholders dan pei, nou kapab ANB byensir.

anpes Vandredi mon krwar mon annan en lot meeting avek SCIU lo konteks finansyel.

Akoz nou osi nou anmas entelizan, e mon anvi fer sir ki sa lentelizans ki nou anmase i workable, i korek.

E sa lenformasyon pe produce pou access criminality propaze.

Apre pa bliy UNODC ki li osi tou ki reste en partner kle avek nou.
So apre mon’n mansyonn Maurice, Israel and these are the outside regions as well.

Me selman i enportan pou nou, pou nou ganny sa exposure e sa leksperyans.

Mersi.

bann pg.

105 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MR SPEAKER Mersi Superintendent.

Onorab Loizeau.

HON NORBERT LOIZEAU Mersi Mr Speaker.

Bonzour Minis.

Bonzour Superintendent St Ange.

Mr Speaker mon premye kestyon mon anvi demann avek Mr St Ange ouswa Mr Fonseka ,me Mr St Ange.
St Mr Ange anba progranm 1 anba ‘other uses and services,’ ti annan en alokasyon en milyon 316 mil anba ‘office building rent’.

Pou 2021 nou vwar li in ariv 395 mil savedir en rediksyon 921mil.

Alors mon ti anvi demann zot, kwa ki zot ti pe rent e dan lannen ki swiv pa’n bann prozekte sa?

Alors mon anvi demann zot kwa ki zot ti pe rent e ki e kote?

Apre mon anvi demann Mr St Ange i annan bann inmates ki an deor prizon, zot pe travay parey kot Land Marine, STC annan en pe.
Zot pe ganny en lapel zot, si mon konpran byen.

Selman i annan en morso lo zot lapey ki prizon i ganny pran.

Monn anvi ki Mr St Ange i donn mon en lesplikasyon ki zot fer ek sa larzan, ki zot pran lo sa bann inmates?

Apre sa konstriksyon bann barak.

Ou’n annan i dir k procurement ti ganny fer e i ti annan en kontrakter ki ti’n ganny Kontra pou fer sa.

Me dapre lenformasyon ki mon pe gannyen, konstriksyon barak ti ganny fer in antyerman par bann inmates.
Alors Mr St Ange mon ti a kontan ou donn mwan en pti lesplikasyon lo la si i vre ouswa si pa vre?

Mersi.

ganny fer MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Yes Superintendent.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.

Onorab aktyelman wi sa barak ti ganny en bon pe lannen pase.

I pa’n zanmen ganny fini.

Premye isi keksoz konman ler mon ti ganny apwente konman Sirentandan, akoz nou annan responsabilite for housing manner - pa zis kondannen be staff nou angaze avek osi.
ler mon ti vin in a humane So ti mank twalet, ti mank en landrwa e staff ti bezwen mars dan labou pou al kwi zot manze dan en landrwa kot kondannen i ete.

Ok, ti annan en ta defayans.

So ler dir konstriksyon barak complete the barracks which was avek pou complete the barrack pou fer li livable e sa porsyon ti ganny konmanse pg.

106 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 nou ti fer fini.

Sa nou ti eksplik sa byen.


lo So construction nou ti fer lakwizin, nou ti fer plis twalet nou ti fer en landrwa manze pou staff.

E pou fer fini sa building ki ti ganny konstri en bon pe lannen pase.

I pa’n zanmen ganny fini.

konteks Lo inmates (RDR) Risk Day outside, anba Programme Release project Phoenix progranm 2, nou pa dir sa en saler.

E ti annan akoz allowance progranm i la pou edik - edik en kondannen kliyan, pou prepar li pou lavi travay e prepar li pou resorti pou vin en sitwayen solid.
I ganny li en allowance.

One third of this allowance goes to the RDR which is overseen by finance ok?

E sa one third nou, nou avan, avan bann inmates lo progranm ti ganny peye avek sigaret.

Mazin sa.

Oubyen zot ti ganny offered en sonm larzan pou zot konstri en miray whatever.

Si zot ti gannyen.

Konmela sa progranm i uniform, i standar dapre nou Policy.

E en kondannen ki li konnen ki apply, pou mannyer kondannen progranm 1 al travay Land Marine?

Zis nou swazir li nou tir li?


Non i bezwen montre en pozitivite.

I bezwen drug free oubyen i lo methadone.

Ok bezwen konport li al travay Land Marine pou reste dan kan Bois De Rose.

E i ganny son allowance.

So financial allowance remuneration i zis en bout.

Nou dir fer sir anmans son larzan pou ed son fanmir.

Sa osi pe marse.

Pe travay So sa tyer ki vin dan RDR Account i ganny servi pou pey allowance, bann kondannen ki pe fer bann pti louvraz anndan kot prizon pe netwaye, pe tir bin.
dan administrasyon.

Nou nepli pe pey zot sigaret.

Si zot anvi aste zot sigaret, zot aste dan zot kont ki zot annan.

E byento avek ‘expression of interest’ pou tuck- shop zot pou annan drwa aste dan tuck shop osi zot larzan ki zot ganny allowance pou bann travay ki ganny ki zot pe progranm anba fer reabilitasyon.
And on the rent, nou ti pe lwe nou pe lwe e byento mon pe sorti mon pe al kot sekretarya Minis, mon biro avek mon sekretarya pe bouze pe al kot Independence House Annex, be last year we are renting offices at Oliaji trade Centre.

MR SPEAKER Wi Onorab leklersisman?

pg.

107 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 HON NORBERT LOIZEAU Mr Speaker, be vi ki dan prizon ladan in dir ki zot annan bann office ki zot in fer pou human resources pou fer sepa ki zafer.
Akoz ou Sirentandan ou ki sipoze la teren pou vwar ou biro i Oliaji Trade Centre, selman dimoun pe telefonn Onorab Henrie.

Pe telefonn lezot ou pa konnen ou, Oliaji Trade Centre - eski bezwen mazinen i 109 mil par mwan sa rent kan nou annan biro prizon.

Mon rapel ler Mr Tirant ti Sirentandan mon ti al dan son biro.

Ti annan en biro laba prizon.

Mon ti antre - en bon grander biro.

MR SPEAKER Ale nou a les Superintendent reponn silvouple.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.


I think Honourable Member Lasanble pe pa pe konpran travay prizon.

Mon pou eksplik ou, Montagne Posée i en prison facility.

Avan, nenport i dimoun ti kapab monte pou vwar en dimoun.

Konmela i pa koumsa, ou bezwen apwentman.

2 mon [pa neseserman mon pa anvi vwar dimoun pe mont Montagne Limero Posée pou vin vwar mwan lo en size an deor prizon, petet lo Kontra whatever zot kapab fer li anvil.
I annan bokou fanmir ki vin anvil pou vin vwar mwan, ki mon pa anvi zot al anler Montagne Posée pou ganny sa lenfliyans, pou sa kontak.

ganny ki Prizon Montagne Posée i se en proze.

Nou annan plizyer fasilite laba.

Nou annan en siport Headquarters administrasyon.

sa Headquarter building byensir nou napa ase lespas pou met tou dimoun.

Nou pe evolye dan nou prosesis management of a prison.

Nou’n annan head of custodial ki avan nou napa.

prosedir E Nou annan en head of supply, ki avan nou napa.
Nou p baz nou loperasyon Prison Department which I am the Head of the Prison Department.

Byensir sa ki ariv dan prizon i osi konsern mwan.

So I spent equally amount of time - petet I spent more time at Montagne Posée.

E byensir ler nou ganny en lot fasilite mon pou bezwen sa lot fasilite osi, en lot osi pou fer sir ki striktir departman parey striktir Departman Lapolis pe fonksyonn byen.

I the the Executive of am Department of Prison.

pg.
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108 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Be selman i pa savedir ki mon pa antre dan prizon, mon antre mon ale mon angaz ek bann kliyan, nou angaz avek staff, bann kliyan i vwar mwan.

Demen mon annan meeting avek bann inmates, Zedi, Vandredi i tonm koumsa.

Mon schedule i ganny plan by the week, pou mwan fer sir ki mon balans mwan ok?

So I just wanna correct that zimaz ki mwan mon anvil.

Selman nou bezwen en sekretarya koz mon annan probasyon.

Mon annan resours imen.


Mon annan accounts, ki nou napa plas anler kot Montagne Posée.

E mon pa anvi vwar sa bann kalite servis, anler dan en prizon prison facility, prenon kont ti annan en konplent avek bann nurses, poudir zot dan en sityasyon kot zot pa santi zot konfortab.

pe sivilyen Mazinen si mon ti annan travay staff administrasyon anler laba osi.

I en prison facility nou pe manage kondannen dapre en Konvansyon, dapre standar ki nou, nou konnen nou bezwen fer.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.


Ghislain.

Onorab HON CHANTAL GHISLAIN Bonn apre midi tou dimoun.

Sirentandan ti annan en prizon ki ti ouver Coetivy.

And pandan sizyenm Lasanble zot ti fer fermen.

And la pe reouver ankor.

Mon pe regarde dan tou zot bann depans la mon pa avwar kote in plase larzan an se ki konsern prizon Coetivy, ki kantite larzan ki zot pe depanse ladan?

Mon ti a voudre konnen.

Mersi MR SPEAKER Mersi wi Superintendent.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mr Chairman mersi bokou.
Mersi Onorab.

Sa kestyon i senp.

Wi nou ti ferm nou loperasyon parey Minis in eksplike dan Press Conference boner dan sa mwan la.

E nou pe retourn avek Coetivy avek en nouvo lapros ki deza nou pe servi parey bann Onorab in fer sorti avek Land Marine avek PUC, avek IPHS, avek STC.

Ki en model ki i mars tre byen.

Nou bann - nou pou napa vreman depans eksepte pou anvoy en zofisye en welfare officer e deplas serten zofisye laba, pou fer sir ki sa low risk inmate pe partisip byen dan sa progranm ek IDC.
I parey i partisip byen avek sa progranm pg.

109 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Land Marine oubyen STC.

Mon kapab nonmen.

Oubyen PUC.

So i pa reflekte dan Bidze akoz sa lapros nou napa out-of- pocket expense per se, except pou dimoun E tanzantan anler Lagreman osi i vwar ki IDC pe siport mon kapab dir 99.9% of the effort.

anvoy laba.

en E mazinen osi sa bann building i la deza.

Nou’n peye pou sa bann building.

I ankor laba.

I an bon leta.


Minis laba in al vwar in vwar pou li menm osi.

So mon krwar it’s a win- win pou pei, e Nasyon e byensir pou Departman Prizon.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Mondon.

HON TERENCE MONDON Mersi Mr Chair.

Mon premye kestyon ki ou kapab dir nou lo gaspiyaz dan prizon?

Lefe ki i annan bann tank delo ki pa pe marse ouswa koule.

I annan manze ki zot prepare pou prizonnyen ki laplipar I dan bin.

E ler mon get delo zot pri zot kou pou delo in monte par 248mil.
E ki reprezant 292 mil zot par mwan.

gouvernans zot ladministrasyon i pe reflekte sa ogmantasyon.

Anba E an menm tan ou’n koz nou lo harvesting delo ki rod 2014 kot Prizonnyen dir ti fabrik bann tank fiberglass.

Mon pa pou pe vwar s pe reflekte ozordi, ler nou pe koz ozordi nou lannen 2021 e nou pe get Bidze sa bann proze ki’n konmanse pa pe reflekte lo redwir depans kot prizon.
Mon dezyenm kestyon se lo sistenm kontrol, ki ou kapab dir nou lo ou sistenm kontrol ki ou annan an plas, pou fer sir ki bann prokirman bann prodwi manze, i a i pa vin bann shopping ki bann travayer menm ladan i pe shop ladan.

Me ou sistenm kontrol i pe permet ou anpese ki sa i arive.

Ki sistenm ou annan an plas, ki permet nou fer sir ou annan kontrol lo sa bann keksoz parey.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Superintindent.

Onorab.

Wi SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.

Mersi Onorab.
Mersi Onorab.

Mon la mon anvi dir mersi avek Minis Finans.

Nou’n al dan en legzersis 2000 konmansman 2019 tar dan 2019 e dan 2020 osi, pou fer sir ki nou purchasing dapre en standar.

ti Avan msye Onorab annan en kondannen ki ti pe lev pg.

110 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 fek resevwar telefonn pou order keksoz ok?

So konman la i pa arive sa.

Alright?

Mon pa pou dir plis ki sa.

Selman i anba kontrol.


Mon’n rapor Oditer Zeneral pou 2019 mon’n glance through avan mon’n vini, i annan defayans lo kote human resources.

I enteresan pou note ki a sa moman la nou ti pe enplimant nou nouvo resours imen.

lo Ti annan defayans procurement a se moman la nou ti pe pas avek Minis Finans pou fer sir good receive note, purchase order tou bann keksoz i swiv dapre prosedir, Lalwa e la nou pe fer li.

So I hope to come zot before demann mwan plis.


E mon ava montre zot laprev kote nou ti ete e kote nou été konmela.

the FPAC pou As concerned the greener prison project, resaman mon’n trouv 4 water heater, solar heater solar water heaters ki ti dan storage ti ganny donate annou dir 2015/ 2016 sorti Friends of Prison, UNDP pou fer en donasyon pou nou redwir.

Ti dan storage.

Avan mon letan sa.

So i pran en pe letan pou vir sa bato prizon, pou fer sir i pe al dan son direksyon kot i sipoze ale.
Nou napa letan la pou zwe.

Well, mon pa la pou zwe avek okenn personn.

Nou fer nou mye pou nou proceed e progrese.

E mon konnen akoz mon’n nou’n fer auditing osi UNODC in vini akoz mon ti anvi en fresh pair of eyes.

2018 UNODC ti vini ti fer en rapor ti don nou en kart rouz.

Dan 6 - mon krwar dan 4 mwan apre sa rapor UNODC in retournen avek en dan prison L’Europe, in donn nou en zonn pe al lo ver.

Savedir progresyon e keksoz pozitiv pe arive.


expert sorti E la mon’n fek demann en lot odit pou zot vini.

E mon konvenki ki nou pou sorti lo zonn, zonn ver pou vin ver gri.

E gri is the highest.

Gray is the highest classification of anba UNODC pou en prizon.

Kantmenm nou sorti nou pou vin ver nou pou vin grey, i annan defayans, akoz nou en imen.

So we must almost be looking continuous improvement.

Mon ava demann Tasianna pou koz en pe lo delo.

for MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Wi Mrs Labrosse.


ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASIANNA LABROSSE Mersi Onorab pou ou kestyon.

Sa increase lo delo la.

Sa 248 mil i baze lo nou current actual current trend ler nou’n prepar sa Bidze, nou’n vwar poudir ki pg.

111 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 kantite ki nou pou bezwen depanse ou delo.
Me parkont delo la, i pa zis - nou pa pey zis dan sa delo ki ou’n vwar ki 3.5 milyon la i pa zis kot Montagne Posee li akoz nou annan Montagne Posee, nou annan kot RDR, apre nou annan pou sa 4 lakaz ki nou bezwen peye.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Nou a pran Onorab Romain.

HON GEORGES ROMAIN Mersi Mr Chair.

Mr Chair mon kestyon fek ganny demande par Onorab Mondon.
Me selman zis an pasan mon ti a demann en pti kou Mr St Ange sa ti en call ki en paran ti call mwan lot fwa ti demann mon si en kondannen i dan prizon byensir i pe fer son santans.

E pandan son santans in fer en konstriksyon.

Dapre konpran in fer en gro miray.

E ler in ganny large in fer en bon pe lannen, i ti demande si i ganny parey en allowance oubyen en lapey?

Akoz i pa’n Dapre ganny nanryen konpran gro en konstriksyon dan prizon.

Ti a kontan Mr St Ange si ti kapab dir en pti keksoz lo la.

Mersi.
Mersi.

fer in li.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Mr St Ange wi.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mon anvi dir ou.

Mersi Mr Chairman.

Onorab mon anvi dir ou la konmela depi ler nou’n konman nou’n reform prizon nou fer sir ler nou angaz en kondannen, en kliyan, nou kondannen i en kliyan pou nou, nou pe sey reform li.

So pa ganny mon mal.

ti be dir Si antre i anvi antre dan pou reform li, nou angaz avek li tou keksoz i transparent.

I konnen ki si sa i pe al gannyen So and white.


black malerezman dan lepase parey mon boner, kondannen ti pe ganny peye avek sigaret.

E undoubtedly mon’n ganny dir pa menm bann dimoun ki’n sorti dir, ‘’be sef mon’n konstri sa miray ki ou pou fer pou mwan?’’ Be mon napa nanryen pou fer pou li, akoz mon napa nanryen an ekrir.

Konmela son nou sentence management plan i pli serye ki avan.

E it’s a progressive work kot sak Sirentandan i anmenn zot keksoz e nou improve.

Pa savedir mon parfe.

Non!


Minis toulezour pe call mwan pe dir fer isi fer laba.

Ou konpran?

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112 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 So nou angaze la avek reform, pou fer sir ki okenn nou bann kliyan ki lo progranm i annan en allowance pou li.

E ler i sorti e mon ava konfirm an average en inmate ki sorti lo progranm depi ler mwan mon’n konmanse, avek in anywhere from 6 to R17,000 dan son kont.
sorti R17,000 is more the typical amount ki en pa mal dimoun ki’n dan prizon e pe kontribye, e i pe ed son fanmir ler i anndan ok?

And nou vwar sa konman en sikse.

So malerezman pou sa, mon swet sa dimoun ki deor konman en sitwayen lib, ki pe kontribye pou nou pei.

In aprann e i pou nobou al pli avan devan avek son lavi, avek son fanmir.

Se sa ki mon kapab dir ou.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Aglae.

HON EGBERT AGLAE Mersi Mr Chair.


Mr St Ange premye kestyon, ou konnen sizyenm Lasanble bokou lanfaz ti ganny mete lo zot bann prosedir procurement ek tender, e mon konpran ou pa ti la ou osi a sa moman letan, me ou predeseser.

Ok premye kestyon eski zot pe swiv sa bann prosedir procurement e tender, i konsern bann sirtou kot services.

Par egzanp ou bann food and ration, eski pe ganny fer par bann prosedir tender?
Apre osi i annan sa size uniform, mon krwar plis ki R1milyon pe ganny mete dan uniform.

Eski sa osi vi ki ti annan serten konsern avek serten Kontra, eski sa problenm in swiv in rezourd, e zot prosedir ki ti ganny demande?

zot lo Trwazyenm, size vaksinasyon, eski prizon in an Minister avek diskisyon Lasante pou kapab osi bann inmates ganny vaksinen a moman apropriye?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Superintendent.

Onorab.

Wi SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.
Onorab wi lo vaksinasyon aktyelman mon annan en meeting avek Lasante demen.

Nou ti’n prevwar sa pou en pli boner ki sa.

Malerezman in ganny retar.

Nou serten kondannen ki’n fini ganny en vaksen tou le de.

Selman i minorite.

Nou annan apepre 230 ki reste, pou fer sir zot ganny zot vaksen.

E sa mon annan en meeting avek Lasante annan pg.


113 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 demen - hopefully we can take off within the next few days, akoz mon I want to make sure ki sa nou sa group dimoun zot ganny zot vaksen neseser.

Lo kote uniform, wi nou Nou swiv swiv standar.

prosesis, tendering.

E pou uniform staff tou prosedir in ganny fer e preski tou staff i ganny uniform e la aktyelman zot pou under renewal phase of uniform practice, avek bann local companies.
Unifom pou inmates as well, pou konmanse sa lannen.

Sa osi i pou fer pou vwar byento tender process pou dan bann zournal.

Pou bann dimoun pas atraver Tender Board pou fer neseser pou donn sa uniform.

MR SPEAKER Wi Onorab Aglae.

HON EGBERT AGLAE Mersi pou ou larepons.

MR SPEAKER Mon dir en pti klarifikasyon vitman.

HON EGBERT AGLAE En pti klarifikasyon vitman wi, lo size sa vi ki zot in dir zot pou swiv prosedir.
mon ti a zis konnen si zot ankor pe servi menm fourniser pou ki ti pe annan sa Kontra pou liniform.

E osi bann suppliers parey pwason si zot ankor pe servi menm fourniser?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Wi Super wi?

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Lo uniform supplier non, we have 2 or 3 tailors we are working with.

Latwal ti deza la, nou pa ti bezwen aste.

Akoz premye lensidan.

So nou’n servi sa bann latwal nou’n al tir lo nou bann latwal nou’n pas dan tender process.
Suppliers of fish, and chicken and poultry, vegetables li osi i pas dan tender process and nou pe swiv.

Wi larepons se wi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Selman on the sustainability for the prison, nou lentansyon pou prodwir plis nou menm parey i ti été avan.

That’s where we want to go, back to the future, kapab dir.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Superintendent.

Onorab Samynadin.

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114 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 HON KELLY SAMYNADIN Mersi Mr Chair.
Mon kestyon I annan pou fer avek sekirite ek sipervizyon dan prizon.

Tou resaman en dimoun dan mon distrik, ti temwanny en zofisye prizon dan son liniform pe aste en kantite bwat sigaret avek lighters dan en laboutik dan mon distrik, ler in fini i ti al lo bus stop dan krwaze Montagne Posée aparaman i ti pe al travay.

E sa in elev doutans sa dimoun lo sa sityasyon ki’n temwayen.
Akoz i paret ki sa i en pratik labitid de lapar sa zofisye, e ki lontan pe deroule, e i paret osi i pe ganny soutire, pou antre avek sa dan prizon.

Mon ti a kontan konnen ki bann mezir sekirite ki an plas, pou asire ki zot bann zofisye ou menm dimoun an deor, pa antre dan prizon avek bann lobze sibstans ilegal?

Dezyenmman ki bann, bann kontrent ki zot pe rankontre pou asir nivo sekirite dan prizon?
E dernyerman ki provizyon ki sa Bidze pe fer pou asire e mentenir ki sa nouvo sekirite ki ganny rekomande par zot departman, akoz dan breakdown anba ‘governance management and administration’, mon pa vwar okenn alokasyon ganny fer pou security and enforcement pou 2021?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Yes Mr St Ange.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.

Mersi Onorab mon osi mon ganny sa call sorti kot sa sitwayen ki dan rezon Au Cap.

E mon’n koz avek li in donn mwan bokou lenformasyon.
E nou annan nou, nou departman sekirite intelligence, nou’n anmas tou lenformasyon.

Mon konnen ki zour in al laba.

E mon konnen ki magazen mon konn met sa magazen osi.

So si pa mwan lot laba byento pou pou pas demann akse avek son CCTV.

E byensir mon fek dir ki e parey Minis bomaten in dir porous?

borders or Malerezman koumsa annandler.

I depan ki sa ki fason ou set-up E resaman nou nouvo security gate complex ki savedir.

i ete.
i ete.

i E avan petet si ou pa’n pa konn Montagne Posée, search room ti lanmenm la obor prizon.

Savedir ou monte ou zis lanmenm la, kondannen pe mill around.

Search room konmela in ganny bouz anba pli ba e nou annan tou lockers i la e staff napa drwa anmenn okenn keksoz bezwen asize dan locker pg.

115 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 nou annan en screening device, i annan search, i annan part down ki nou pe fer.
Byensir si en zofisye i fer son booking annou dir nou annan cameras ki nou enstale osi.

E mon fyer poudir lo camera as the they are getting better detecting things, lezot osi petet zot ganny petet menase par serten dimoun an deor.

So i arive.

So i en travay constant work pou fer sir ki sa ki nou pe met an pratik, e sa ki nou pe fer pe marse.

Si i pa pe marse avek data ki pe montre nou, nou ava re fine tune tou nou loperasyon.

Be mon apresye.
Be mon apresye.

E nou bann sitwayen bann dir rezidans silvouple ou annan lenformasyon call nou.

Call nou pa kasyet.

Nou pran sa lenformasyon travay avek.

Ok?

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab Uranie.

HON ROCKY URANIE Mersi Mr Speaker.

Mon vwar anba ‘current challenges’ zot annan staffing constraints, mon ti a kontan konnen ki zot pe fer pou zot kapab ganny plis staff fodre zot ofer pli bon si package?
Apre ti annan osi ‘inability to complete major repairs.’ Kwa ki’n arive ki’n fer kwa ki in arive ki’n fer ki zot pa’n kapab fer konplet bann travay mazer?

E anba stratezik priyorite stratezik, mon vwar in met ‘improve physical infrastructure.’ Eski ou krwar sa Bidze ki’n koupe par apepre 7.5milyon, pou kapab ed zot lenfrastriktir?

improve Mersi Mr Chairman.

zot MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Yes Superintendent.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.


Larepons for the last question se wi, nou krwar ki n kapab konplet serten travay ki nou’n progranmen pou sa lannen.

Most i fencing avek serten lapros ki nou pe pran.

sa Bidze And sa ki nou’n anpes nou last year fini bann keksoz, prensipalman sete en budget cut akoz sityasyon COVID pou met nou an retar.

E nou pe look forward nou pe get e nou pou travay avek si Lasanble pou nou fer li nou mye avek sa ki nou ganny donnen.
Nou pa pe byensir rod plis larzan akoz nou konpran sityasyon pei, nou osi nou bezwen kontribye e byensir pou kontribye.

E kontribye deza nou pe travay lo serten laspe lapros ki mannyer nou respond, pg.

116 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 ki mannyer staff i fer isi fer laba, e mon krwar sa reinvert rated approach ki nou pou enplimante byento, nou pou vwar plis rezilta.

Mon anvi dir, mon a profite pou dir Onorab ki i annan bokou nou bann kliyan ki pe aprann zot leson.
Zot in ganny kondannen zot santans selman zot pa anvi repet sa lofans.

Akoz fason nou pe manage zot ozordi.

Ankor enn fwa i pa savedir keksoz i parfe.

I en work in progress.

Be mon satisfe e mon konnen ki nou pou achieve sa ki nou pou achieve.

E nou stand by nou bann deklarasyon ki nou’n fer lo bann konstrent.

E lo size manpower nou ti entrodwir en nouvo Scheme of Service ki nou pou re entrodwir avek Minis, pou li get ladan.

E gete ki i kapab siport sa.


Byensir mon krwar i pou kapab siport li selman avek sa nouvo Scheme ki adres tou laspe travay, ki en service officer swa sivilyen swa dan uniform i fer, and hopefully nou ava ganny sipor.

And next year en nouvo lannen avek nouvo posibilite, ki nou ava ganny nouvo kalite e en zofisye kalib e kosto, pou vin travay avek nou dan mon prizon.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Andre.

HON CLIFFORD ANDRE Mersi Mr Chair.


Mr Chair letan nou get ‘office expenses’ pou Departman Prizon i R10.725 milyon.

E letan mon konpar li avek Ministry of Internal Affairs ki bokou pli mwens.

Konbyen dimoun ki travay dan zot lofis?

E ki vreman zot fer dan sa bann lofis pe kout tax payers R10.7 milyon?

Dezyenm se menm si nou’n get dan sa ‘other goods and services’ in sorti 20 milyon in mont 21milyon – in sorti 20.9 in mont 21.6 milyon.
Mon le konnen kwa ki dan sa bann ‘goods and services’ ki’n ariv sa kantite?

i ganny E letan nou get custodial services, Mr Speaker i 59 milyon, ki sa bann aktivite ki pase dan custodial services, ki pe fer ki bezwen depans kantite larzan?

E eski an vi ki en dimoun en kondannasyon i al dan prizon, eski napa en fason pou fer li kontribye dan son maintenance, dan plas zis i mont prizon e nou nou’n maintain li?
Nou pa pe travay dir nou vini dan Lasanble i fini 7er pa ler pe debourye menm, e nou pa ganny sa maintenance nou.

Me i konmsi ki tou dimoun pg.

117 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 konpran sa prizonnyen osi letan i al laba i konpran poudir i annan en travay ki bezwen fer bezwen donn en koudmen son prop lekor.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

Wi lekel panel Mrs Labrosse ou pe adres sa.

ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASIANNA LABROSSE Mersi Onorab pou ou kestyon.
Ler ou pe dir ‘office expenses’ la ou pe dir zis pou central admin oubyen ou pe dir antye?

HON CLIFFORD ANDRE Eskize.

Lo paz 267 anba latab 2 kot i met ‘use of goods and ‘offices services’ 51 milyon expenses’ i met 10milyon.

So mon pe sey konpar avek li menm Minister Minister Internal Affairs i 3 pwen ekek milyon ki mannyer pou zot i 10 milyon.

Ki zot fer?

Ki kantite staff zot annan dan sa bann lofis?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Wi Mrs Labrosse.


ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASIANNA LABROSSE Mersi ankor enn fwa pou ou kestyon pou sa ‘office expenses’ ki’n monte par 10.9 milyon ki la, ‘office anba ou’n dir expenses’ la i annan diferan item ki tonm anba la.

Parey pou custodial programme 2 i bann i annan bann cleaning expenses i annan bann consumable ki vi ki la ou konnen nou dan sa pandemik ki pe avek nou pei, nou bezwen fer sir ki dan prizon nou sa bann, bann keksoz ki adequate keksoz, pou kapab kontrol sa lepidemi.
Sanmenm sa ki ou vwar i annan sa logmantasyon 10.9 milyon.

Akoz anba ‘office expenses’ i annan nou pey consumable, i annan ‘office expenses’ li menm apre i annan cleaning expenses.

Wi Superintendent kapab swiv.

MR SPEAKER Wi Superintendent.

Kapab swiv.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Wi mon ava azoute Mr Chairman mersi Onorab ki nou pa kapab konpar travay ki sekretarya Minis i fer avek travay Departman Prizon i fer.

bokou Nou administrasyon a tou nivo.


Nou annan welfare, nou annan annan probasyon counselling;- Tou keksoz i ganny documented.

Last year we were cut short because of COVID e sa lannen nou anvi fer sir ki nou annan nou pg.

118 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 ogmant nou keksoz dan prizon, eksetera.

fason netway So byensir bann cost pou Nou annan nouvo monte.
servis ki nou’n entrodwir, court liaison officer ki fer ki lyezon avek Zidisyer, ki organiz bann - avan ti annan zofisye ki ti si zot ti la zot ti fer eksetera.

Be nou anvi lev sa standar travay.

E mon krwar i pe arive.

keksoz anba ler mon E si nou pe reform prizon nou anvi al dan en direksyon koreksyon m prison service to correction service e pou nou konpran petet nou pou bezwen fer en education programme pou fer dimoun konpran si sa.
Me en rabat ti al declaration lannen pase, ki Maroque L’Afrique an zeneral pe i anvi anvizaz travay prizon travay en Nou correction department.

byensir nou pa kapab fer tou keksoz an la menm tan, me selman step by step we will get there and avek bann lazistaz ki nou pe fer, servis nou pe donnen, nou pou arive.

So nou pou war serten sanzman dan Bidze e fason fer travay osi.

MR SPEAKER Wi Onorab Andre klarifikasyon.

custodial services.
custodial services.

Selman lo klarifikasyon ki mon le dir Mr Speaker se ki sa 10milyon i tonm anba ‘office expenses’ li sa ler i separe li.

Maintenance i separ materials and supply i Ou konpran?

reste parey.

Konmsi mon le konpran pa bezwen vin dir mon poudir sa well ou kapab dir mon selman i difisil pou mon krwar ‘office expenses.’ Selman ‘material and supplies’ ki ou’n dir mwan i osi i annan son laliny Bidze li i osi i 10 milyon.

Ou’n dir mon ‘other uses of goods and services’ i 21 milyon.
lofis So mon le konpran ki mannyer ou annan en lofis e nou annan bann nouvo Minis ki’n antre zot Internal Affairs i bokou pli ptipti ki pou ou konmsi ki grander prizon i été ki nou annan sa kantite office expenses and this is tax payers money.

I am sorry I need, mon bezwen en lesplikasyon e mon krwar pep Seselwa deserve an explanation about this.

Akoz elektrik ek delo osi nou pe pey en kantite ki nou krwar nou kapab met solar panel avek rain water harvesting kot prizon.

Mersi.
Mersi.

HON CLIFFORD ANDRE Wi klarifikasyon apre i pa’n lo reponn mon 59milyon MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab.

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119 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASIANNA LABROSSE Mersi Onorab.

Ou fek dir ou pe refer lo sa paz 267 ou.

Pou sa ‘office expenses’ la.

Sa office expenses lo 27 la sa 10 milyon ki ou’n dir la, i konpri si ou gete anler la, i consolidate i pou sa 3 progranm.
Prezan sa ‘office expenses ‘la sa 10 la i enkli eskize taler mon pa’n dir ou mon’n dir ou zis consumable avek cleaning.

I enkli delo i enkli telefonn, i enkli enkli stationary ki nou bezwen peye.

Konmsi i consolidate sa 10 milyon i pou sa 3 progranm, enkli uniform tou.
electricity, i MR SPEAKER Ok Super ou le … ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASIANNA LABROSSE Mon kapab dir ou ki sa ki enkli dan sa ‘other office expense’s i enkli uniform, i enkli stationary, i enkli newspaper magazine, postage, cleaning, electricity, office internet, expenses li menm, i enkli i tousala ladan.

telefonn, Prezan pou sa 10milyon i separe anba son 3 i i annan i annan admin la, progranm annan rehabilitation.

custodial, MR SPEAKER Tre byen.

Ok Onorab mon krwar in donn en pe detay ou satisfe?
HON CLIFFORD ANDRE Lo sa 59 milyon personn pa ankor dir mwan nanryen.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Panel Super.

lekel ki pou adrese?

MR SPEAKER Wi madanm ale ou.

ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASIANNA LABROSSE 59 milyon lo ki paz ou dir ou vwar sa 59 milyon?

HON CLIFFORD ANDRE Dan progranm 2 menm paz P2 ‘custodial services 59 million.’ 59.9 sorry 58.907 million.

MR SPEAKER Onorab.

Wi madanm.

ACCOUNTANT SENIOR TASIANNA LABROSSE Wi sa lo custodial ki ou pe dir sa 59 milyon 59.9milyon la, sa 59 la, milyon li.
custodial Prezan custodial i annan son bann office expenses ki tonm anba la.

pou i en progranm custodial pg.

120 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 i annan Parey mon’n dir ou anba office expenses i annan son son consumable, i cleaning expenses.

annan bann maintenance ki tonm anba, ki nou bezwen fer menm parey dan breakdown i annan in monte nou bezwen fer bann maintenance kot prizon, i tonm anba la.
Apre Prezan i tonm anba pou pey bann foreign prison officer, bann expatraite, tousala i tonm anba la.

‘Minor capital’ osi i tonm anba la.

‘Food and ration’ i tonm anba ki nou bezwen pey manze pou bann inmate.

Tousala i tonm anba la.

Prezan kekfwa ou ti le en breakdown pou sa 58milyon i annan en kapab breakdown, forward ou, mon kapab donn ou sa breakdown ki detaye.

mon MR SPEAKER Ale, annou les PS Thesee eklersi silvouple.

Annou les PS Thesee eklersi silvouple.

Wi PS PS DAMIEN THESEE Mersi Mr Chair.


Latab 2 i annan de kalite klasifikasyon ladan.

Premye klasifikasyon i progranm, si nou rapel Bidze Departman Prizon i pou 79.6 milyon, premye klasifikasyon i par progranm.

So i annan 3 progranm ki ariv 79 milyon.

sa so i Apre annan anba klasifikasyon ekonomik, ki li i donn li son bann klasifikasyon par son bann main heads parey wages, transportation maintenance, i ariv 79.

So dan sa latab i annan de klasifikasyon.


Ekonomik ek progranm ki depan ki mannyer ou pe get li.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Bon byen.

Nou ava al lo en lot Manm.

Onorab Vidot.

stratezi ki HON AUDREY VIDOT Mersi Mr Chair.

Mr Chair mon kestyon i fer referans avek tous dezyenm reabilitasyon.

Nou apresye ki bann kondannen Seselwa i progranm sa annan reabilitasyon, akoz sa i ed zot byensir letan zot sorti dan prizon pou zot retourn dan kominote.
Me mon konsern ki i annan se, i annan Seselwa aki le letan ki’n fer zot santans prizon.

Ki’n sorti lannen pase, pe rankontre difikilte, pou lanplwa, espesyalman ganny avek sityasyon COVID.

Zot bezwen mazinen ki i pran 5an pou zot rikord retourn prop.

E ou konnen Lazans parey Proteksyon Sosyal in dir klerman ki si ou pa travay ou pa ganny led.

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121 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Eski zot pe asire ki sa bann Seselwa ki sorti prizon, pa zot ganny sa sipor neseser pou zot kapab re ankadre zot dan sosyete?

E pou zot pa ganny difikilte la dan sa sityasyon COVID, pou zot ganny louvraz.

E byensir pou anpese, nou sistenm nou pa oule nou sistenm i kree en loportinite pou zot letan zot sorti, zot ganny difikilte louvraz apre nou vwar krim i kontinyen ogmante.
en leklersisman si bann eski bann kondannen etranze zot osi swiv menm progranm, akoz byensir nou konnen i kout pei larzan, pou soutenir zot letan zot pe fer zot santans Sesel.

Dezyenmman, E si non, petet si kapab eklersi pou ki rezon, akoz ankor enn fwa apard ki letan zot fer osi zot santans kout adisyonnelman Gouvernman pou zot retourn se zot apre zot santans.

Mersi.

isi, fer i MR SPEAKER Mersi.

rehabilitation programme i pou prepar zot ki ler zot sorti zot a kapab antre dan en louvraz.
a E bann Phoenix programme ki pe marse avek Land Marine, PUC, apre sa la parey sa progranm Coetivy en loportinite tre, tre bon pou zot.

Akoz pa zis dan lagrikiltir, dan Coetivy la i annan bann louvraz parey mekanisyen, sarpantye.

I annan plizyer trade ki ou bezwen ler ou pe run en zil par egzanp, ki zot, zot kapab al ladan.

E pa zis sa, nou nou’n koze avek IDC zour zot fini zot term, petet zot zis kontinyen reste laba, ganny sa travay.

Akoz i annan en kantite louvraz lo bann zil.


So ek tou sa bann deboursman, petet i pou ed nou pou sa problenm ki ou’n fek mansyonnen ki ler dimoun i fini i pa ganny nanryen apre i retourn ver krim.

E sa progranm reabilitasyon i egzakteman pou anpes en dimoun ki’n fer en fot ki ler i al dan prizon i pa vin aprann plis bandisite.

So nou bezwen angaz li dan louvraz.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Mr Speaker.

Mon a reponn sa premye bout kestyon lo kestyon Onorab Vidot.
Byensir lo sa sityasyon ki ler prizonnyen i sorti I mean sa sanmenm nou annan So sanmenm mwan personnelman byen kontan sa bann loportinite ki zot pe gannyen ozordi pou devlop zot.

Lo kestyon ti annan en lot kestyon ou’n demann nou lo … pg.

122 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MR SPEAKER Lo kestyon prizonnyen etranze.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Yeah ou kapab reponn sa enn?

MR SPEAKER Wi Super.


SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE mersi Mr Chairman maqam Onorab nou annan apepre 10 kondannen ki etranze, e ladan nou annan twa ou kat ki pe partisip dan progranm.

ki Kestyon ganny demande, se eski zot annan zot annan en right zot.

Parey en Nasyon Seselwa ki’n ganny convicted, zot bezwen partisip dan progranm.

E nou vwar ki en kondannen ki etranze ki pe partisip dan progranm pe ganny son allowance li menm li i pe pey pou son bann serten keksoz ki ler i bezwen.
Avan nou ti pe supply li.

Nou ankor pe supply li si i demande akoz is our responsibility anba nou act pou supply pou fer sir ki sa kondannen i ganny son manze eksetera, eksetera.

But more and more we are seeing ki en kondannen etranze ki pe partisip dan progranm, i pe more or less siport son prop lekor.
E nou krwar ki avek tuck-shop ler i arive ‘expression of interest’ nenport ler la dan bann zournal, i pou vwar ki en kondannen pou annan son swa pou aste son bann keksoz oubyen ganny son manze atraver nou kantin.

Mon anvi zis azoute Mr Chairman ki rate dan Sesel dapre ne rapor 2015 ti montre 35poursan popilasyon ler sorti dan prizon pe retourn dan prizon.

And I think the numbers are about the same.

Ler nou konpar sa avek L’Europe, La France 40 to 50%.

Dan La France.

E L’Europe an zeneral.


Eskiz mwan i menm parey dan L’Amerique.

Up to 60% after a conviction to return to prison.

la So i montre ki i annan en e petet nou’n keksoz demande ki sa i annan en revi i annan en lot rapor, en lot letid lo exact rate of residivism in the Seychelles dan nou popilasyon kondannen lezot sorti, eski i vreman?

E mon depi ler mon’n pran an Novanm 2017 mon vwar ki kondannen ki ti sorti avan sa reform progranm pe konmans retournen.
Be selman sa bann kon donnen ki ti dan progranm mon pran sa konman en marker.

Napa byen, byen petet dan 2an pou vwar zot pe retournen osi.

It’s 34%.

Selman you’ re right they need to be working.

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123 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 MR SPEAKER Onorab Vidot wi.
HON AUDREY VIDOT Zis en pti leklersisman;- petet Sirentandan i kapab oubyen Minis letan zot in dir poudir sa progranm pe mars byen akoz parey mon ‘n fer resorti i annan ka ki lannen pase kot i annan kondannen zot ki’n santans, pe ganny difikilte pou ganny louvraz.

zot Eski en progranm ki apre en serten kantite letan ki in sorti zot annan sa swivi petet pou regarde si vreman i ankor dan en lanplwa?

Mersi.

annan fini MR SPEAKER Wi Superintident.


diskite SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE So i en keksoz ki mon anvi avek mon nou’n management ki sa after care i bezwen la.

E mon dakor avek ou dan lepase pa ti la.

Selman mon pa anvi vwar nou bann kliyan pe tourn dan prizon.

Nou bezwen donn zot tou loportinite, pou zot kontribye avek zot fanmir e pa retournen.

Ler en dimoun i dir mwan sa i 5 Star Hotel Montagne Posée mon dir 5 Star lo konteks prison standard e travay prizon.

I pa en lotel.
I pa en lotel.

Ler ou perdi ou laliberte la ou perdi ou laliberte.

Kantmenm i annan enn de ki pe zwe ek telefonn pe kontakte bann Onorab whatever pe donn zot lenformasyon, sa nou ava fer en swivi.

in Selman it’s our work - it’s fer sir ki our work pou kondannen fini son ler santans, i annan li en posibilite pou reentegre dan sosyete, pou la pou stand strong avek son madanm avek son bann zanfan, konman en papa son fanmir.

Ou pa kapab fer sa pe komet lofans krim retourn dan prizon.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.
MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Roucou.

HON MICHEL ROUCOU Mersi Mr Chair.

Bonn apre midi Sirentandan ek panel.

Sirentandan dir nou an 2019 ti annan apepre 25 zofisye gard prizon, ti ganny promosyon ki zot pa’n ganny zot larzan ziskan la.

Mon pe demande eski, once ki zot larzan i ganny ogmante, eski zot pou ganny back-pay pou sa bann letan ki zot in ki zot pa’n gannyen ?

Sa i mon premye kestyon.

Mon dezyenm kestyon i se ki ki challenge ki zot pe gannyen pou zot kapab anploy nou nouvo staff.

E menm li ?

pg.
E menm li ?

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124 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Mon trwazyenm kestyon pou vi nou annan bann gard prizonnyen etranze ki i annan bann pozisyon kle kot prizon, eski ler zot Kontra i fini zot ale, eski nou bann Seselwa ki pou ganny sa bann promosyon mont dan sa bann pozisyon?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.


MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Mersi Onorab pou sa kestyon wi ti annan sa sityasyon ki 2an pase sa bann zofisye ti ganny en serten promosyon, e zot pa ti ankor ti annan en dekalaz dan zot Scheme of Services ek sa band ki zot lo la.

E apepre detrwa zis an Novanm, mon ti diskit ek zot e finalman nou ti arive ki mannyer nou kapab ed zot pou ganny sa diferans, akoz ti annan en dekalaz ant zot ran ek sa band i pa ti fit byen ansanm.
Alor nou ti al kot DPA nou ti diskit sa e nou’n manage pou ganny ek Minister Finans natirelman nou’n manage pou add 3 steps dan zot band.

Dan en fason pou konpanse;- lefe ki pa ti ganny dan sa moman ki devret ganny fer.

So sa nou’n fer.

New staff you want to take that one staff.

MR SPEAKER Wi Superintendent.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Speaker.

Mersi Minis.
Mersi Minis.

Mersi Onorab new staff nou pe vwar loportinite parey mon’n dir nou annan 18 applicants ki’n vin devan avek en karyer dan Lapolis karyer dan SPDF, lagrikiltir, private security, plonber eksetera, eksetera.

sa avek Nou anvi fer sa bann kalite dimoun bann background varye.

Pou nou enplimant e ed nou dan en zofisye ler i vini konmela i pa zis la pou sirvey sekirite i la pou travay avek kondannen pou mentor sa kondannen, pou gid li.

Sanmenm sa nou bezwen bann karakter spesyal.


Akoz pa nenport ki kalite dimoun.

Nou pa kapab annan en zofisye ki vin la, ki annan en problenm temperament ki li menm li i pou zoure, li menm li i pou kalote, oupou ganny problenm.

So nou bezwen fer sir ki sa i vini i en study and nurturing background.

E lo konteks bann pozisyon kle bann mon a koz lo Népalais.

They are junior rank up to lance corporal, corporal e la nou’n enplimant nou pe fer sir par egzanp nou annan en pozisyon serzan ki’n ouver ok?

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125 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 I annan internal advert poudir sa zofisye ki i annan tel letan kriter background, i annan pou apply pou sa pozisyon.

Nou’n ganny nou mon krwar 16 mon krwar si mon pa tronpe aplikasyon entern, ki senpleman pou bann dimoun lokal Seselwa pou ganny sa pozisyon.

Malerezman nou annan en pozisyon serzan.

So i annan lentere nou pe fer sir ki nou prop dimoun nou prop zofisye i ganny sa loportinite pou ganny sa advancement.

MR SPEAKER E wi Onorab.


HON MICHEL ROUCOU Minis eski sa bann zofisye ki’n ki ou’n dir mwan ou’n al negosye pou zot kapab pou zot saler kapab mont sa band ki zot ete, eski zot pou ganny back- pay sa bann letan ki zot in espere?

Wi oubyen non.

apre eski Sirentandan pe dir nou okenn Seselwa la deor ki ti a voudre join sa lekip kot prizon pou zot fer zot formalite pou zot kapab vini?

Mersi.

osi E MR SPEAKER Mersi Minis.


MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Yeah rezon nou ti donn zot sa 3 step akoz nou pa ti kapab donn zot sa back-pay.

Sa ti Bidze ki’n fini pase.

So sanmenm sa rezon nou’n enkli sa bann steps sa lannen.

So Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Ou napa naryen pou azoute?

Ok wi, Superintendent.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mr Chairman nou annan loportinite parey nou dir la nou annan 18 Seselwa ki’n vin devan pou rod 13 pozisyon.

18 pou 13.

Bann interviews pou konmanse demen.


Mon osi mon anvi build up en lalis rezerv ler nou perdi en staff oubyen en dan lefitir dan detrwa mwan ler bann staff etranze i konmans ale, nou pa bezwen esper en bon pe letan nou annan en pool pou nou pran dimoun.

Se sa lide.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Onorab William.

HON WAVEN WILLIAM Mersi Mr Chairman.

Mr Chairman mon ti a kontan demann avek Sirentandan, mon konnen lontan ti annan vreman bann progranm pg.
126 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 proaktiv depi dan lekol.

Pou ankouraz bann zenn pou pran bann karyer swa dan Lapolis dan plizyer landrwa.

E ou a krwar poudir ek devlopman ou a krwar nou’n slack en pe lo la.

Solman mon anvi demande ki vreman progranm proaktiv zot pe vin avek?

E an menm tan letan mon’n tann ou koz lo bann lapey bann etranze, me ozordi laplipar dimoun ki al rod en plas travay i al toultan kot landrwa kot lapey i o.
So par lefe ki etranze pe ganny li 19mil, mon ti a kontan demande be sa bann dimoun la ki pou antre ki’n fer apply dizon ler zot in fer interview zot kalifye ki band zot pou konmans lo la?

Sa i premye.

Dezyenmman, ou konnen tou dimoun pe ganny demande la pou ser sang.

Seselwa in ganny kondannen pou ser sang la avek COVID.

Me ki dan prizon ki zefor zot pe fer an plis?


Akoz ki i arive se ki letan ou regarde ou annan en lafors travayer mon’n trouve dan zot strategic programme kot zot anvi vin financial sufficient.

But what about otosifizan, dan fourni zot bann prodwir manze par egzanp lavyann, legim, fri, pwason e letn mon pe dir sa Mr Chairman eski zot annan en Kontra avek bann fermye, peser lavyann ki supply zot sa bann keksoz?

anvi demann Dernyerman M Chairman.


avek Mon Sirentandan, par Lefe ki sa bann zenn la ki in al apply e mon anvi konnen be sa bann etranze ki’n vin isi la eski zot in osi dan zot Kontra annan en progranm zot donn training?

Eski ozordi nou napa sifizaman Seselwa ozordi zot in ganny train pou kapab bann trainers donn training dan sa pei?

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.


Onorab trainer i e keksoz enportan nou aktyelman en petet zot fatige pou tann sa UNODC, e quarter to nou’n demann zot pou vini pou fer pou train up en pe nou bann zofisye pou zot vin train en trainer serten skills set, ki nou bezwen.

So sa pou ganny fer.

E pe ganny fer aktyelman akoz lo redwir depandans pou foreign perspective foreign staff.
Lo Scheme of Service i annan attractive salaries se pou sa rezon nou’n travay lo en nouvo Scheme of Service, ki bokou pli konpetitiv.

And mon happy pou share avek zot, si zot anvi en kopi.

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127 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Mon’n demann mon imen pou kontakte resours sekretarya Lasanble pou fer pase.

And i enportan ki nou reste competitive dan konteks Sesel byensir espektasyon i pli o e zot pe rod plis.
dimoun lo Annou pa bliye ki konteks foreign, staff ki’n vini lo kote Tanzanian they are prison service MOU from prison trained these are service, prisoner officers ki’n konplet lakademi prizon.

Ki sa osi nou anvi retourn e fer sir nou annan nou prop lakademi petet avek lasistans Lapolis.

Sa keksoz ki nou bezwen fer, diskite.

I sansib.

become Akoz travay dan prizon parey mon’n dir pli boner, son keksoz lanvironnman li menm.

E we have more to this why competitive.


And Onorab ki last year mon’n deside pou etabli en recruitment unit, ki pou al dan bann lekol konmela nou annan bann sharp uniform you got sharp mind we have sharp officers ki pe vin travay zot fyer zot debourye, zot pe reprezant servis prizon.

And nou anvi zot al dan lekol poudir why not bann nou’n consider?
konmans travay lo nou menm nou nou’n komans travay lo en Menm Scheme, pou kapab dir ki nou bezwen diskit avek DPA avek Minis osi, ki pou petet fast track high quality students to come and work with us avek prizon.

Lo nivo travayer ki i annan zot pou lo B 4 step 1 and zot pou ganny allowance of R3500;- salaries about 9 thousand - 3 500 plus another thousand allowance and hen they get a bus pass.

That’s the minimum entry.

for Selman parey mon’n dir that’s the old Scheme of Service.
New Scheme of Service pou bokou pli konpetitiv ki sa.

As we phase down lo foreign staff e nou annan nou nouvo Scheme we can go up.

MR SPEAKER Mersi, ankor Onorab William.

Wi Minis oule adrese?

Wi Onorab lekel pwen oule eklersi?

Ok Minis wi mersi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Ok wi mon pe sey pez mon bouton la i pa pe marse.

Wi Onorab William, lo kestyon zis ou pick up en pti gin lo sa ki lo Superintendent training.

Ou ti a pe koz lo proactive.

in koze Carrier development very important.


Nou pe konsidere ki anvi law enforcement academy i pou en landrwa ki tou dimoun pg.

128 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 ki anvi en karyer dan law i pass dan en enforcement academy e from sa academy la i a kapab ganny en swa, dapre son performance, si i pou al dan Immigration, si i pou al Police, nenport.

SMRSA, prison, Kantmenm marine park if you wish sa bann zofisye marine park tousala zot pas dan en basic Enforcement Academy.
Law So sa i en progranm ki nou pe get ladan.

E sa i a vreman devlop sa nide of carrier development.

Mon krwar tro bokou nou pa pe met ase faz ki sa i en karyer ki zot kapab al ladan, e bann diferant level kot zot kapab devlop zot ladan.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Wi Onorab ou a terminen please.

ti pa krwar i ti pou fair, si sa bann dimoun ganny well kantmenm zot pa ganny tou me zot konnen sa departman ki mon’n donn mon kontribisyon, pe rekonnet poudir be in fer en committment avek mwan.
Akoz sa bann Tanzanian letan zot pe ale zot, zot lo Kontra.

So ou bezwen onor tou zot bann commitments, akoz nou pa kapab onor nou bann Seselwa?

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Minis.

promosyon MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Wi Mr Speaker, Onorab definitivman, i bezwen vin ansanm ek en rekonpans.

Sa ki mon ti a pe koz lo la ki en keksoz in arive avan ki zot in ganny en promosyon selman i pa ti anliny ek zot band.

HON WAVEN WILLIAM Mr Mersi Mr Chairman.


Chairman lo en baz lazistis sosyal fairness mon ti a kontan avek demann Sirentandan, konbyen sa bann zofisye akoz parey mon dir se ganny zot deza 3an promosyon.

Letan ou ganny en promosyon ou ti sipoze ganny ou larzan.

Minis in E la Minis pe dir mon ou pe dir nou ou’n negosye me ou i Sa So ti annan en mank plasman la.

Ti annan en soz sanmenm nou’n ganny sa problenm.

temporary measure pou nou rezourd sa problenm.

Savedir nou pa kapab al koumsa dan lavenir.


Nou bezwen fer sir ler dimoun i ganny promote i sorti en ran mont lo sa lot ran, ki annan en plas dapre nou Scheme of Service osi .

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129 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 Ou pa kapab promote dimoun selman ou napa en Scheme of Service pou support son saler.

So tousala ti an ti bann keksoz ki nou’n rezourd right now.

Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Mersi Minis.

Onorab Pillay.

Mersi pou ou pasyans.

HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY Mr Mersi Mr Chairman.


Chairman an relasyon avek Bidze prizon i toultan annan en kontansyon lo size konbyen nou devret depanse pou nou okip oubyen deal avek sa sityasyon bann dimoun ki end up komet en lofans, fer en krim apre end-up dan prizon.

So mon konsern i se ki ler nou get Bidze 2020 2021 nou vwar ki Bidze 2022 e Bidze 2023 i reste preski dan menm groser.

Realistiman kwa ki zot annan lentansyon?


Oubyen eski Minis i krwar poudir i annan lespas pou zot fer en serten travay konpreansiv, pou sey fer redwir sa kou ki nou bezwen depanse an relasyon avek sa Bidze?

2021 - 79mil, 2020 - 78 mil, 2023 - 79 mil ankor.

i mon premye kestyon.


Sa Dezyenm kestyon pou Minis, Minis dan lepase sa laranzman ki in annan ant bokou kestyon Departman Prizon ek IDC in sisit dan Lasanble e mon asir Onorab Arissol i rapel kestyon i ki’n souleve vizavi fuel, vizavi avyon, vizavi bann lezot keksoz.

Kwa ki’n sanze safwasi, ki’n fer ki Gouvernman ler ti l osa kote latab pa ti tro an faver laranzman ki ozordi en tel nou’n al ver sa laranzman?
E ki bann benefis ki zot laranzman pou sa krwar anmennen an tanzibman relasyon avek bann kou ki dan Bidze?

E eski sa Minis pa riske fer ki ou lanmwatye retourn kot nou e pou demann nou en adisyonnel dan ou Bidze?

Mersi Mr Chairman.

lannen MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Minis mon krwar ou bann kestyon i kout.

i ki nou’n MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Yeah mersi Mr Speaker.

Mersi Onorab Pillay.

Ki diferans?


diferans fer Lagreman, ki tou sa bann cost travel tou sa bann cost house keeping, accomodation electricity, tousala pou ganny take up par IDC.

Me IDC osi zot bann dimoun biznes zot.

Zot bann dimoun biznes alors zot in work zot bann costing ki right now, i pg.

130 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 annan en kantite louvraz ki IDC i anvi recruit lo bann zil.

Me zot osi zot pa pe ganny ase dimoun.

Me sa i vin en loportinite pou nou.


E nou pe espere osi ki a lavenir sa bann dimoun a kontinyen reste laba pou travay.

zot E kontinyen dan karyer.

So vreman mannyer nou’n negosye sa i en win-win dan tou le ka.

Vreman s nou ti’n bezwen peye pou flight pou tou bann lezot keksoz la noy ti pou bezwen vreman regard sa proze byen.
Me in vin en loportinite ki IDC i bezwen manpower, nou, nou annan bann dimoun bann inmates, ki annan low key serten annan skills, nou mekanisyen, nou annan tou sord skills ki zot bezwen laba.

E an menm tan sa bann i kapab servi sa dimoun loportinite.

So mon hope mon pa hope mon krwar nou pa pou ki ou ;n dir retourn lo lanmer pou vin ros en alokasyon.

Mon krwar akoz zot pe pran tousala zot menm.

Mersi pou sa.

Repet ou premye kestyon silvouple.

HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY Mersi Mr Chairman.


Mr Chairman ler nou regar Bidze Departman Prizon, 2020 ti revised budget 87 milyon, 2021 Kestyon ki mon Bidze i 79 milyon, akoz serten bann capital cost in sorti.

2022 i 78 milyon e 2023 i 79 milyon.

pe demann ou, Minis ou fek vini mon konpran me Sirentandan in la, ki lespas ki annan pou nou kapab fer bann rediksyon sibstansyel dan sa Bidze ki la devan nou going forward?
E si ou pa permet mwan Mr Speaker, mon a fer en sel demann en kestyon adisyonnel, ki mon ti pou annan se ki, lefe ki nou annan prezan sa an relasyon ek redwir kou, nou annan sa provizyon pou fer bann kondannen bann ki lo work release oubyen lo license pou fer serten travay.

Eski sa bann ki lo license in fini ganny vaksinen e akoz zot pou pe enterakte avek community, e byento nou pe ouver nou lekonomi.

So ki mannyer prizon pe handle sa?


mon pa pe koz lo Montagne akoz spesifikman Posée Sirentandan in koz lo la.

Me nou pe koz o bann ki lo license.

Mersi Mr Chair.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Sirentandan wi.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.

Onorab Leader Lopozisyon mersi pou pg.


131 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 ou kestyon lo spesifikman lo sa 14 ki lo license I don’t have the information si zot in ganny zot vaksen, because license for a i annan number of months espesyalman 3 madanm ki lo license ki plis ki 1an, e zot pe al fini zot santans la.

So I would think that they would have - I can find out that taking availability of normal process of vaccination amongst the public.

But I would find out.


And it is a concern of ours ki en kondannen ki pe sorti lo son santans normal, pou fer sir i ganny sa akse avek sa vaksen.

So this is why the meeting i tomorrow enportan pou nou.

Mersi.

avek Lasante MR SPEAKER Mersi, i annan sa kestyon lo ki zefor zot pou fer pou redwir Bidze going forward si i annan lespas.

Lekel ki pou pran?

Super wi.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.

Byensir it’s a very it’s a challenging budget and challenging forecast byensir.
Nou annan serten travay ki nou, nou anvi fer osi.

So we are meeting regularly avek my management team pou regarde forecasting where we can save, were we can improve.

Mon aktyelman la msye Lopozisyon 01 Me i fer 3an kit mon dan post.

And data will improve ki year in year out the is efficiency of improving.

the prison i Kantmenm annan defayans.

Kantmenm we still have wastage here and there but the numbers are getting better and more controllable.
The systems are become more controllable and adoptable and traceable.

So this is something that which is a positive.

E we will have to see mid-year and see how the opening goes hopefully everything goes ok. And we will able to maybe discuss with the Minister some other projects – specific projects ki nou anvi vwar for 2022 ki petet i ava demann en pe plis presyon, oubyen ogmantasyon lo Bidze aktyel, as it arrives.

But for the time being we have to do what we have to do to manage.
So I will say it that way.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Onorab Georges.

HON BERNARD GEORGES Mersi Mr Chair.

Mr Chair mon annan senp.

de kestyon ti a kontan Premye mon pg.

132 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 lekor demann avek Sirentandan k ansarz prizon, e si sa kestyon in ,ganny demande mon eskiz avan;-progranm mon vaksinasyon pou bann inmates pa staff, me bann inmates, e bann ki lo day release bann ki pe travay STC, PUC bann landrwa koumsa.

Si in ganny demande ou ava eskiz mwan.


Me mon kestyon prensipal sete lo ou ‘strategic priorities’ nimero 12, pou sa de lannen ki pe vini, anfen sa 3 lannen ki pe vini, 21, 22, 23.

E sa se rehabilitatión.

Mon ti a kontan konnen ki progranm eski zot annan en progranm striktire?

E si wi eski zot annan en Bidze sifizan, pou non selman ‘release on license’ ki mon konnen i dan ou domenn Sirentandan se ou ki deside lekel ki ganny ‘release on license’ si i pou al dan kominote, si i pou al Coetivy or whatever.
inmates Me eski zot annan en progranm striktire pou ki tou bann without exception, i annan en fason pou zot access en patrol system a bann letan regilye apre 2an pre 4an apre lanmwatye, eksetera?

Instead of zis rely lo bann ki anvi, oubyen bann ki santi zot kapab oubyen bann ki konnen ekrir pou demann en gras?

i annan en progranm striktire ki la E si Eski non, eski i annan lentansyon met enn an mars?

E mon demann sa akoz si zot bezwen lasistans, lasistans i annan dimoun ki pare pou donn zot sa.

Mersi.
Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Yes Sirentandan.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chairman.

Leader mersi pou ou kestyon.

As it concerns vaksen monn reponn ki tou kondannen, tou kliyan ki pe travay lo RDR ki deor in fini ganny vaksen.

I reste selman bann kliyan anndan ki demen mon pe diskit avek Lasante.

I would have hoped it has started already.

Parey nou ti’n prevwar me selman what a reason.

So sa i konmans pou demen.

Lo reabilitasyon wi i annan en progranm.


Byensir pou annan serten zot napa akse, me tou kondannen ki met to meet a criteria can access and they don’t meet the criteria their counsellors are to advise them.

E ki si sa zot bezwen fer pou achieve.

Because byensir nou pa kapab zis larg okenn nou pa kapab met okenn dimoun lo sa progranm, they have to meet the basic criteria pg.

133 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 and basically they are moving away from drugs.
Ti annan en komanter pli lo methadone.

boner But addiction is an evil beast.

That drives somebody from many years.

We are working with one inmate.

There are several inmates now who have been injecting for a long time, even before they arrived.

And they just cannot kick the habit.

And they are victims.

And they - malerezman annan kondannen anndan k viktimiz zot.

i And we are building up cases against a certain number of those inmates.
Pou fer sir ki ler nou vin devan Attorney Zeneral ek Lapolis nou annan en case solid.

But hearsay.

Kondannen pa anvi raport lot kondannen.

So we are following these things up.

So yes there’s a programme can it be better?

Yes.

We can sit down with members of the Assembly byensir, we will appreciate that.

Do we need more in the budget?

I was not saying I was not gonna come here to say I need more money.

And I’m not gonna say it.

But next year we would like to get our own physiologist.
We need one several people in the country who just finished their training, their schooling to come in the country.

We are very interested taking them, because a lot of our inmates they come with social disorders.

They have behavior disorders.

Alcohol – they are alcoholic, drug they have addicts issues, so these cases need to be dealt with professionally.

temper And yes we get support from the Ministry of Health e nou die mersi bokou.
But we need a full time on-campus- person to deal with the cases as they crop up.

And we have cases every day, toulezour nou annan ka.

Nou pe travay avek nou bann zofisye they are in very difficult positions and situations - i nepli sa letan pou nou kapab vir lo en dimoun.

Ou bezwen upfront and deal avek sa dimoun.

That’s how I answer that.

ledo MR SPEAKER Ti annan wi ti annan size progranm - Minis ou ki pou adres sa?

Mersi.
Mersi.

MINISTER ERROL FONSEKA Yes Mr Speaker zis mon anvi pran sa pti moman la pou reinforce en pti gin ki Mr St Ange in koz lo la.

I ki mon ti a rekomande pou tou Manm Lasanble osi pou ganny en kopi sa bann audit UNODC ki’n ganny fer lo prizon.

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134 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 landrwa prizon Dan bann natirelman bann landrwa byen difisil en ponnyen challenges lo la.

E i fasil pou Superintendent vin isi dir tou keksoz pe mars pe improve, pe improve.
Sa ki enportan ou annan en outside audit ki vin get ou sityasyon.

E UNODC pou provide sa servis pou nou.

I annan de rapor;- enn ki’n fini ganny fer tou le de in fini ganny fer, e pou annan en audit ki pou vin soon ankor.

Me mon ti a rekomann Manm Lasanble osi pou lir tou le 3 rapor.

Pa zis sa dernyen rapor.

Ou bezwen lir tou le 3 ansanm ler sa lot in fini pou donn ou en apersi k mannyer nou’n arive kot nou’n arive la.

So sa i enportan en kantite.


Akoz prizon i pa en landrwa fasil, me toultan nou pe rod fason pou amelyor sityasyon.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Ou’n Onorab ou pa’n ganny en repons lo ou parol kekfwa panel pa tro anvi reponn.

Eski Super ou a pran?

HON BERNARD GEORGES Mon kestyon ti eski zot annan en striktir a parole structure ki tou inmates a bann letan regilye zot annan akse, pou zot ganny parole e zot santans redwir e zot ganny large dan kominote anba en sistenm ki’n fikse.
Mon konnen zot napa, mon pe demann ou, eski dan ou progranm ‘to devlop framework of rehabilitation’ eski zot in pran sa ankont?

Akoz i annan pare mon ti dir serten lorganizasyon pou asiste zot.

Mersi.

MR SPEAKER Mersi, wi Sirentandan wi.

SUPERINTENDENT RAYMOND ST ANGE Mersi Mr Chair.

Sorry Onorab Leader it’s something we like to go into direction e byensir avek sipor nou we would appreciate it the license to be at large is a bit antiquated.

Yes it’s in my hands.


But we need to the parole Board parole concept i en keksoz ki mon krwar i ti ava ouver en pe plis, donn plis loportinite.

E en keksoz ki Minis in diskit avek mon as well lo serten lapos avek Zidisyer avek Attorney Zeneral, me selman it’s being discussed, but I think we some push, we can gain some further grounds on it.

Because this is the direction.


You know when I discussed with Israel par egzanp their approach on parole also include electronic tagging and monitoring, and follow-up after the fact.

A lot of aftercare i pg.

135 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 tonm ladan, ki en keksoz pa neseserman ou pe fer Onorab in mansyonn sa aftercare and work.

So if we can continue in this direction e head in that way, it would be more benefit to the country and to the inmates and to families.

MR SPEAKER Mersi.
MR SPEAKER Mersi.

Mersi pou sa repons.

Avek sa nou’n termin kestyon e komanter lo sa Bidze e nou a pran en vot, vot i lo Departman Department of Prison paz 266 ziska 271 pou en Bidze R79 milyon 607mil.

Manm ki an lanmen.

faver silvouple Okenn ki kont?

Napa mersi.

lev Vot lo sa Bidze pou Department of Prison, paz 266 ziska 271, pou en total R79 milyon 607mil, in ganny 32 vot pour 0 vot kont e 0 abstansyon alor mon pe prezimen mon anonse Bidze in aprouve.
Onorab nou’n terminen - well what is the wi silvouple nou bezwen terminen.

HON SEBASTIEN PILLAY Mersi Mr Chairman mon’n ganny a mon latansyon la ki i annan en lartik ki’n ganny ekrir dan en zournal ki lo rezo sosyal en zournal Les Seychellois Hepdo.

E i annan en bout dan sa zournal en bout dan sa lartik ki mon Caucus ek mwan menm nou proteste e nou pe met dan ou lanmen, ki sa i misleading.
Par lefe ki i dir ‘’the issue came following fore question of the Elected Member from Mont-Buxton Onorab Gervais Henrie, put to the Minister Family Affairs Mrs Marie-Celine Zialor.’’ the to Mon problenm i se ki sa fraz ki swiv i dir’’ the Opposition the protested information was misleading.’’ claiming Ou a recall Mr Chairman, ou menm ou ti antre dan sa deba, pou dir ki nou, nou ti pe proteste lo lefe ki size ki ti an kestyon, sete bann desizyon ki ti’n ganny pran - pa an relasyon avek sa case, me an relasyon avek bann desizyon ki’n ganny pran pou bann BOT ki pa pey bil elektrisite, ti an relasyon avek eleksyon.
E ou menm ou, ou ti entervenir ou ti ofer Onorab loportinite pou dir sa dan en fason.

Mon Caucus ek mwan menm nou santi poudir si en zournal an deor pou raport en travay Lasanble, annou fer li byen.

E annou pa met keksoz ki pa’n pase dan Lasanble, akoz i inakseptab pou mislead Lepep.

Mersi Mr Chairman.

MR SPEAKER pg.

136 Verbatim Report NAS Sitting Tuesday 9th March 2021 ladan.

Mersi mon a note e mon a regard Vwar mon problenm ler ou ouver en laport tou dimoun i ler antre.

Ale Onorab Henrie.
Ale Onorab Henrie.

HON GERVAIS HENRIE Mr Speaker lefe … MR SPEAKER Un instant, un instant silvouple.

Madanm Clerk pe montre mon nou devret premyerman sorti dan Staz Komite, nou a kapab deal avek sa pwen.

E Onorab Henrie lefe ki ou non in ganny mansyonnen, selman mon pa ankor ganny sans vwar sa lartik ki Onorab Pillay.

HON GERVAIS HENRIE Mersi Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER Zis lesplikasyon.


ou kapab donn en HON GERVAIS HENRIE Wi Mr Speaker Lasanble Nasyonal, i pa landrwa pou diskit ou pronons ou lekor lo size ki pas dan medya, akoz i annan en Seychelles Media Commission.

Si Lopozisyon i santi zot in ganny aggrieved zot met en case laba e mon pa krwar i fair pou zot trenn ou dan en sityasyon ki an deor size Lasanble Nasyonal!

Mersi.

(Interruption) MR SPEAKER Wi ale.

Silvouple, dernyen parol lo la silvouple non Leader Lopozisyon silvouple non, nou’n fini!
(Interruption) MR SPEAKER Zis sel keksoz mon pou dir Onorab Henrie mon’n ekout sa ka akoz in fer referans avek keksoz ki’n pas dan Lasanble se tou.

E sa dernyen parol.

Mersi bokou.

Avek sa nou ava adjourn pou demen matin 9er.

Mersi.

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