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KINGDOM OF LESOTHO ELEVENTH PARLIAMENT NATIONAL ASSEMBLY Daily Hansard (Official Report) FIRST SESSION FIRST MEETING Thursday 08th December, 2022 (Unrevised) NATIONAL ASSEMBLY CHAMBER Thursday, 08th December, 2022 [The House assembled at 02:30 p.m.] [HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] PRAYER [The Chaplain led the House in Prayer] COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR Order!
Litho tse Khabane, ke fetisa tlhokomeliso ho lona Litho tse Khabane hore, Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane la Lichelete o tla ba teng ka Ntlong ka koano letsatsing la hosane to present the 2022/2023 Mid-Term Review in a joined sitting.

Kahona, Bahlomphehi, joalokaha le hopola ka nako ea ho feta ha ho ne ho e na le joined sitting tebello ke hore we should accommodate Litho tsa Senate tse tla ba teng ka Ntlong ka mona le rona.
Litho tse Khabane, ha re sheba ho Order Paper ea rona e’a bontša hore kajeno ho tl’o etsoa present melaoana e ’maloa ke Matona a Khabane.

Holatela Section 27A (2) ea Interpretation Act as amended, melaoana e lokela ho tekoa ka pele ho Ntlo ka hare ho matsatsi a leshome le metso e mehlano a tulo ea Ntlo kamor’a hore melaoana e joalo e etsoe publish.

Melaoana ena e tl’o tekoa kajeno, kaha nako eo ea matsatsi a leshome le metso e mehlano a fela kajeno, e lokela hore e tekoe.

Standing Order No.
Standing Order No.

100 (3) says:- “The surbodinate law shall then stand referred to the Portfolio Committee under which the subject of the law falls for consideration thereof.” Litho tse Khabane li tla hlokomela hore Business Committee e ntse e le khabong ea ho theha likomiti.

Kahona hajoale ha re na likomiti tseo melaoana ena e tlang ho fetela ho tsona.
Kahona melaoana ena ha e na ho etsoa refer empa Ntlo e tla fuoa monyetla hore e be eona e qoqang melaoana ena ka litlhahiso tse tla etsoa ke HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 1 Bahlomphehi Matona a Khabane a amehang kapa Litho tse Khabane holatela Section 27A (4) ea Interpretation Act as amended le molao oa tsamaiso oa 102 (2).
Ele hore Bahlomphehi, re tle re hlokomeleng hape hore Interpretation Act as amended le li- Standing Order li re fa matsatsi a leshome feela hore Ntlo eabe e fetisitse kapa e lahlile melaoana ena eo re tlang ho e tekeloa kajeno.

Next item, Mr.

Clerk!

TABLING OF SUBORDINATE LAWS (i) Environment (Plastic Levy) Regulations, 2022; Tabled by Hon.

M. Shelile (Minister of Trade, Industry, Business Development and Tourism).

(ii) Environment Fund Regulations, 2022; Tabled by Hon.
M. Shelile (Minister of Trade, Industry, Business Development and Tourism).

(iii) Tourism Levy (Amendment) Regulations, 2022; Tabled by Hon.

M. Shelile (Minister of Trade, Industry, Business Development and Tourism).

(iv) Members of Parliament Salaries (Amendment of Schedule) Regulations, 2022; Tabled by Hon.

R. Ramoeletsi (Minister of Public Service, Labour and Employment).

Statutory Salaries (Amendment of Schedule) Regulations, 2022; Tabled by Hon.
R. Ramoeletsi (Minister of Public Service, Labour and Employment).

(v) Subordinate Laws to lie upon the Table; and to be published ORAL ANSWERS TO URGENT QUESTIONS 9.

CONCERNING SITUATION OF CLOSED FACTORIES.

HON.
M. MALIEHE (PR): Asked the Minister of Public Service, Labour and Employment; HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 2 If he is aware that a large number of factories at Ha Thetsane have been shut down, and that many people have lost their jobs as a result; and if so, can the Minister say: (i) How soon the factories will be reopened for the benefit of the many people who depend on them for work, in the face of rising costs and inflation, and (ii) Whether he can promise that more factories will be established to reduce the unemployment rate.
HON.

M. SHELILE (Minister of Trade, Industry, Business Development and Tourism): Mohlomphehi, kea hlokomela hore potso e hlahile e tobisitsoe ho Mohlomphehi Letona la Kh’iro le Bosebetsi empa ka nepo ehlile ke potso e tlamehang ho tla arajoa ke Letona la Trade and Industry.

Kahona ke se ke bile ke qalella ho etsa joalo.

Ho tlile tlhokomelong ea rona re le Lekala hore mesebetsi e bonahala e qepha ka lifemeng ka mane.

Kahona potso eno ke potso e nepahetseng, ke ntho eo ehlileng e etsahalang, ho joalo.
Ke ile ka bontša ha ke qala ho bua ka har’a Ntlo ena e Khabane hore lifeme tsa rona li lahleheloa ke mesebetsi ka tsela e phahameng haholo ho feta kamehla.

Mabaka a mangata empa la Covid-19 lona le fihlile le se le ntse le qetela moo tšenyo e neng e se e ntse e tl’o tla e etsahala teng.

Re batla re se re le turunyana haholo re le naha ho etsa lintho tse itseng liphahlong mona.

Ke e ’ngoe ea litaba.


Batho bana bao re rekisang thepa ho bona haholo-holo bana ba Amerika ba se ba ikhethela ho reka limmarakeng tse haufinyane le bona.

Boholo ba tsona linaha tsena tseo ho thoeng ke South East Asia.

Hona ho bolela hore lifeme tsa rona mona ha li fumane mesebetsi e lekaneng, ’me ka hona re le Lekala re tšebetsong e matla haholo ka parastatal ea rona ea LNDC hore re lokisetse litaba tsena li khutlele setloaeling.
Tse ling tsa lifeme tse koetsoeng ke bua ha joale ho se ho ntse ho shejoa, ho buisanoa le beng ba tsona le bao ba lakatsang hore ba ka li reka ba tsebe ho khutlisetsa sechaba sa Basotho kahar’a lifeme tseo tse joalo.
HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 3 Mohlomphehi Tona-Kholo o tl’o tla a kena leetong a tsamaea le moifo oa hae ho ea Washington DC ka memo ea ’Muso oa moo ho il’o buisanoa ka litaba tsa khoebisano haholo-holo tabeng ea ntho e bitsoang AGOA e leng eona eo re ntseng re kena kahar’a ‘maraka ono ka eona.

Leetong leno litokiso li se li ntse li hlile li le pele haholo hore re kopane le bao bareki.
Re na le batho ba ntseng ba re thusa ka ho etsa lobby e le hore re tle re ba bontše hore le haele mona Lesotho ho latela bona e le ntho e nyane haholo, ha u ka sheba order book ea bona ha re etse le 1 percent ea sourcing ea bona, empa ea rona e etsa phapang e kholo.

Re ea mono re il’o etsa setsoalle re se tiise ba mpe ba bone hore na ba fumana lifeng tseo ba ka ’nang ba li tlisa koano.

Tse sa hlokeng ho fihla ho bona ka nako e khutšoanyane.
E ’ngoe hape e seng e ntse e etsahala kea kholoa Ntlo ena e Khabane ea tseba hore ho na le lifeme tse seng li ahiloe tse ntseng li qeteloa mane Butha-Buthe.

Lifeme tseno re lebelletse hore li tla kena tšebetsong selemong sena se tlang ka June ha ho se ho thoe ke khale haholo.

Li tla boela li nka basebetsi ba bang, re bile re lebelletse hore mono re kenye lifeme tse batlang li fapane le tsena tseo re li etsang hona joale tsa liphahlo.
Re batla re be le lifeme tse etsang li-part tsa makoloi ha ke etsa mohlala, litaba tsena tseo ho thoeng ke li-electronic letsatsing lena le maobane esale ke na le baeti ba tsoang ho company e ’ngoe ea South Korea moo re qalelletseng lipuisano tsa hore na re ka tsetela joang kahar’a naha ka mona, empa e le mohlala feela.

Kahona litaba tsa rona ehlile li tlaba telele haholo.

Ke ile ka bolela hape hore re tla tlisa molao ka mona.

Economy ea rona ke mpe ke etse digress hanyane ha ke ntse ke araba potso ena.
E tšoana le paola jaole ebe oa tsamaea u il’o kha metsi ka eona joale ebe metsi ana a tsoa hohle mona.

Ke ile ka bontša hore ke tla tla ke tlisa molao kahar’a Ntlo ena e Khabane oo ke lumelang hore re tla o bitsa Entrepreneurship Development Act or Bill e tl’o tla e sheba hore ho koaloe mamati ana a mangata kamoo re lahleheloang ke chelete kateng.
Nka bontša feela hore, mohlala, ke ile ka ’na ka etsa ho fapaneng last time, mohlala, ho na le batho bana bao ho thoeng ke li-sales agent ba kenang kahar’a naha ka mona ba tsoa South Africa, feme e ’ngoe feela eo ebang e etsa Oros, mohlala, e tla tlisa sales agent ba tsamaee ba be ba il’o fihla bo-Mokhotlong koana joale mosebetsi oa HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 4 hae ke ho nka li-order, ho etsa promote product eno ebe ha a qeta oa tšela oa tsamaea.
Batho bano ba kena ka har’a naha ha ba na li-work permit.

Ka mantsoe a mang ha ba ea lumelloa ho sebetsa ka molao ka har’a naha ka mona, ba be ba tsoe kaofela ba tsamaee ba khutlele hahabo bona.

Ha re ntse re sheba ekanna eaba ke li-product tse ka fetang sekete kaofela tseo u fumanang motho a le mong a li etsa market.

Ke mesebetsi e mekae?

E se e ntse e le a thousand jobs eo ha re sheba re fumana hore motho enoa o pataloa likete tse mashome a mararo ka khoeli.
Ke likhafa tse seng li ntse li re baleha tseno.

Molao ono re shebile hore o tl’o tla o thusa hore o koale masoba re ke re leke hore re bone hore chelete re e bokelletsa kahar’a naha ka mona ea pota-pota.

Ke tsona lintho tseo re tl’o tla re li etsa, Bahlomphehi, ho bona hore re chechisa sohle seo ebang se re lahlehetse.

Empa ho feta tsohle kaofela re tla tlameha re le Ntlo re lokise ntho ena e bitsoang Investment Climate, ha e hantle haholo hohang, Bahlomphehi, ke hle ke bolele.
Re etsa lintho tse ngata tse ipheta-phetang.

Ha u batla lengolo… ha ke nka mohlala oa motho eo ebang o rekisa mafura ha a kena ka borokhong o tl’o patala batho ba Road Fund a be a tsamaee a il’o patala Petroleum Fund joale le Lekala ka mokhoa o fapaneng.

Empa re ntse re ena le revenue services hobaneng re kekeng ra tšela chelete eo ka moo.

Ke mpa ke bontša feela hore ho etsa improve Investment Climate ke e ’ngoe ea litaba tseo re tl’o tla re buisana ka thata haholo e le ka tieo le kannete.
Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

10.

TEACHERS’ ARREARS.

HON.

K. MOSOTHO (PR): Asked the Minister of Education and Training; If he is aware that the following teachers have not been paid their promotion arrears: (i) ’Maliteboho Letsie, who works at Liraoheleng Primary School; pay point No.

124059, Employment No.

0046506; promotion date – HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 5 and 2016; (ii) Matšeliso Malefane, Employment No.

0005318, pay point No.

124/076; promotion 2014-2016.

HON.


PROF. N. RAPAPA (Minister of Education and Training): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Deputy Speaker.

Ho latela litokomane tse teng kahar’a file ea ’M’e ‘Maliteboho Letsie, ho bonahala a kolotoa promotion arrears tsa ho tloha June 2016 ho isa March 2017, ’me Lekala la heso le ngolletse Budget Controller ka la 24th November, 2022, ho kopa ho bitsoang advance warrant e le ho lefa mekoloto e kenyeletsang oona ona oa ’M’e Maliteboho Letsie.
File ea ’M’e Matšeliso Malefane e bontša a kolotoa promotion arrears le eena tsa ho tloha June 2014 ho isa September, 2016.

Ka ho tšoana re kopile Budget Controller ho lokolla Advance Warrant e le ho lefa mekoloto e kenyeletsang ona oa ’M’e Matšeliso Malefane.

Ke kopa ke mpe ke qetele karabo ea ka ka hore ke hlokomelise Ntlo ena e Khabane hore Lekala la heso ka kakaretso le kolota litichere chelete e kaalo ka M31.7 million e bopiloeng ka likoloto tse kang tse latelang: 1.

Acting allowances.

2.


First appointment arrears.

3.

Substitute teachers’ e.t.c.

Mona ke siile ka thoko moo khiro e entsoeng ho se budget hohang e ileng ea etsoa ke Lekala, ’me ke hona Lekala le ntseng le sebetsa taba ena hore na e tla rarolla bothata bona joang, ’me re tla kopa tšehetso ea lona hobane ehlile ke matichere a mangata haholo a hiriloeng ke fumana hore budget ea Paramente ea li-01 of April, e ne e sa ba kenyeletsa.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

11.

UPGRADING OF DIVERSION ROAD TO TARMAC.

HON.
HON.

M. MALIEHE (PR): Asked Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police; the Minister of Local Government, HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 6 the say how soon road To from Ha Saee, Ha Thetsane which joins the main Kofi Annan road at “Hardware”, Ha Tsolo will be upgraded to tarmac to improve the flow of traffic and reduce the traffic which goes through the Thetsane Industrial Area as there have been many accidents where factory workers were hit by vehicles on the road.

diversion HON.
diversion HON.

L. LEPHEMA (Minister of Local Government, Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police): Tsela eo e tlohang sebakeng seo ho thoeng ke ha Sae e ilo hlaha ha Tsolo Ha Thetsane.

Karabo ke hore Mohlomphehi, tsela ena ke eo ’Muso o ileng oa nka qeto ea hore e sebetsoe ka selemo sa 2018/2019 sa lichelete.

Sepheo sa eona e ne e le ho fokotsa tšubuhlellano tseleng eno ea Kofi Anan.

Ka lebaka la likhaello tsa lichelete e ile ea sitoa ho tsoelapele.
Moralo o ne o se o phethetsoe, e ne e ile ea bapatsoa lipampiring.

Lekala la heso le lebelletse hore le fumane chelete e le hore le tle le tsoelepele ka eona ka ha e bonahala e le tsela e bohlokoa haholo.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Potso e nyanyelletsang, Honourable Letšaba.

HON.

H. LETŠABA (PR): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
Potso e nyanyelletsang eo ke emang ka eona ke hore na haele mona eka tsela ena eo ho buuang ka eona bothata ba lichelete bo teng, na Mohlomphehi Letona le sa le boemong ba hore moo ebang ’Muso ha u na chelete a ka thusetsa ka mechini ea hae e le motho na?

Kea leboha [litšeho].

HON.

L. LEPHEMA: Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano, ke kopa hore Setho se Khabane se se ke sa nkenyeletsa ka potso.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Potso e nyanyeletsang, Honourable Khahloe.

HON.
HON.

M. KHAHLOE: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Potso e nyanyeletsang ho Letona le Khabane, ke hore re bone hore Main North I e ntse e katoa likoti hantle ’me re thabetse taba eno.

Potso ea ka e ne e le hore na ebe e tlabe e il’o tšela Phuthiatsana e be e il’o likela koana Leribe na tšebetso eno e ntle eo re e bonang ka Main North I na?

Kea leboha.

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 7 HON.


L. LEPHEMA: Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano, u ntumelle ka uena ke tle ke arabele Setho se Khabane ka hore se tle se ele hloko hore polelong ea Mohlomphehi Tona-Kholo ha a ne a nka lesokoana, o ile a re ka hare ho matsatsi a lekholo (100) o tla etsa bonnete ba hore boholo ba likoti tse teng ka hare ho naha lia sebetsoa.

Ke ’nete ke mosebetsi oa Lekala la Public works feela re u kopanetse le Lekala la heso ’me ho tla ba joalo, Mohlomphehi.
Haeba u bone ho fella heno feela, ke mpe ke u tsebise hore le ka ’nqane ka Leribe ho se ntse ho tsoeloapele ho etsoa joalo, kea leboha [Liatla].

12.

INFORMATION REGARDING GRANTS FOR DISABLED PEOPLE.

HON.
HON.

M. LEMPHANE-LETSIE (PR): Asked the Minister of Finance and Development Planning, to shed some light on the following regarding social grants for people with disabilities: (i) The time when the Government will implement a policy which provides for monthly disbursement of the grants; (ii) The number of people eligible for disability grants, including men, women and children; and (iii)The total amount of money needed for monthly grants.

HON.
HON.

PROF. N. RAPAPA (Minister of Education and Training): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Policy ea litsiane tsa batho ba nang le bokooa, e thakhotsoe ka khoeli ea Pherekhong 2022.

Moo Lekala le ileng la etsa boithuto ka tšebelisano ’moho le Lekala la Bophelo.

Boithuto bona ba nakoana bo bile Seterekeng sa Butha-Buthe le Leribe.

Lekala le ntse le tsoelapele ka tšebetso ea pokeletso ea manane a batho ba phelang le bokooa kahar’a litereke tse leshome tsa naha.
Teng lekala moo le ntseng le etsa liphuputso, le sebetsa ’moho le Lekala la Health le bahloki ba malapa a joalo.

Ke lenane la batho ba 322 ba seng ba fumana litsiane kajeno.

Lenane lena ke le hlahang kahar’a litereke tse peli e leng Butha-Buthe le Leribe.
Khoeling ena ea tšitoe, manane a seng a hlahlobuoe ke lingaka le bosebeletsi ba Lekala ke 203 ’me ho lebeletsoe hore lenane lena le tla HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 8 eketseha kaha liphuphutso tsa lingaka le bosebeletsi ba lefapha la Social Development literekeng li ntse li tsoelapele.

Chelete eo, Lekala le e abetsoeng selemong sena seo re leng ho sona ke M7.5 million ho ipapisitso le likhakanyo tsa hore ho tla ameha batho ba tla fumaneha e le 1500.
Chelete e seng e sebelisitsoe ha hajoale ka ha ke hona ho ntseng ho etsoa liphuputso ke M294, 900.00 ’me ho ntse ho setse chelete e kaalo ka M7.2 million mosebetsing ona.

Kea leboha.

13.

NEED FOR A COMMUNICATIONS TOWER.

HON.

L. MOCHABA (PR): Asked the Minister of Information, Communications, Science, Technology and Innovation; If she is aware of the need for a communications tower at Mcupha in Mekaling Constituency, Mohale’s Hoek district; and if so, how soon the Minister will intervene.

HON.
HON.

N. E. MOOROSI (Minister of Information, Communications, Science, Technology and Innovation): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Sebaka sena sa Mcupha se Lebatooeng la Mekaling, Seterekeng sa Mohale’s Hoek ho fihlile tlhokomelong ea Lekala la heso hore ruri ha se na kanetso ea marang-rang.

Mosebetsi o seng o ntse o etsoa ke Department of Universal Service Fund e anetsang marang rang e se ntse e tl’o se kenyeletsa.
Tebello ke hore sebaka sa Mcupha se tla kenella lethathamong le tla kenngoa ka hare ho sesiu sa libaka tse hlokang litšebeletso eleng ea lot 2.

Kahona se tla thusoa selemong sa 2023/2024 sa lichelete.

Kananelo ea litora tsena tse oelang lot 2 e tla qetoa ka Hlakubele 2023 ’me e tla nka likhoeli tse robeli ho isa ho tse robong hore mosebetsi ono o fele [liatla].

14.

CONSTRUCTION OF ACCESS ROAD.

HON.


L. HLAPISI (’Maliepetsane): Asked the Minister of Local Government, Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police; If he is aware of the need for a road which joins the villages of Khohlong, Liforong, Nkafana, as well as Metlaeeng Primary School; and if so, how soon the Minister will intervene.

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 9 HON.


L. LEPHEMA (Minister of Local Government, Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police): Ntumelle hape, Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano, ke tle ke arabele potso ena.

Tlas’a leano la theolelo ea matla sechabeng, litsela li sebetsoa ho latela meralo e etsoang ke Lekhotla la Setereke ka meralo e kollang makhotleng a motheo a Puso ea Libaka.

Mokhahlelong oa pele tsela ena e boletsoeng ke Mohlomphehi Setho se Khabane e ne e le sieo.
Le ha ho le joalo, lekala la heso le hlokometse tlhoko ea tsela ena.

Ka hona tsela ena e se e tla kena mokhahlelong oa bobeli oa moralo oa Lekhotla la Setereke sa Mafeteng.

Mohlomphehi, mokhahlelong ona oa pele, Lebatooa la ’Maliepetsane le ne le hlaha boneng moralong oa lekhotla la setereke, ‘me ho ile ha sebetsoa litsela tse ngata kahar’a lebatooa leo.
Ka mor’a tšebetso ea tsela tsa ’Maliepetsane ho ile ha feteloa Thabana-Morena, hoa feteloa Likhoele, moo ho neng ho ntse ho sebetsoa teng ho fihlela thepa e emisoa ho sebetsoa ka mabaka ana le ane.

Ka hona lebatooa le tla latela kamor’a ho qeta mono e tlaba Likhoele le Qalabane ho qetela mokhahlelo oa pele.

Ho sebetsoa ha tsela ena e tlaba mokhahlelong o latelang.

Kea leboha.

15.

NEED TO REPAIR A ROAD.

HON.


L. HLAPISI (’Maliepetsane): Asked the Minister of Public Works and Transport; If he is aware of the precarious state of the road from Ha ’Mantšeli to Makhaleng, especially when it rains heavily; and if so, how soon the Minister will intervene.

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE (Minister of Public Works and Transport): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke leboha le Setho se Khabane sa ’Maliepetsane ka potso ea hae.
Ka uena Mohlomphehi, potso ea Setho se Khabane e re rutile ntho e le ’ngoe pele ke tla karabong, ke hore lekala la heso le Lekala la Local Government le kolota bakhethoa bohle litšoantšo tsa ’mapa tseo kahar’a tsona li tla bontša hore na litsela tsa Ministry of Public Works and Transport ke li feng, esitana le hore na tsa Local Government ke li feng, e le hore lipotso tsena li tle li be bobebe ho ea ho Letona le Khabane le amehang.
E le feela taba e khutšoanyane ho hlalosa hore na ke hobaneng ha re lokela ho etsa taba ena, Lesotho mona litsela tsa teng kaofela ha li kopelloa ’moho ke li … HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 10 HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, you are addressing the Chair, ke bona u ntse u sheba ka lehlakoreng lane, joale ha ke utloe mantsoe a mang.

Tsoelapele, Honourable Minister.

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Ntšoarela, Mohlomphehi.


Lesotho mona litsela ha li kopelloa ’moho li etsa 10 000 kilometers ’me ho 10 000 kilometers eno, tse 3 000 ke tsa Ministry of Local Government, tse 7 000 ke tsa Lekala la Public works and Transport.
Ho bobebe hore kaha ke litsela re li nke feela e le litsela ka nako e ’ngoe re se ke ra bona empa ke lumela hore ha re ka ra fa Setho se seng le se seng Setšoantšo sa litsela lebatooeng la hae, e tla re kamehla ha se botsa se be se tseba hantle hore na ho loketse ho botsoa mang.

Empa ena ea Setho se Khabane sa ’Maliepetsane e tlile ho ’na ka nepo.
Mohlomphehi, tsela ea ho tloha ha ’Mantšeli ho ea Makhaleng ke tsela ea lehlohlojane e ka hare ho tsela e kopanyang Motsekuoa Seterekeng sa Mafeteng, e potang ha ’Mantšeli, Masemouse le Mpharane ho ea kena Mohale’s Hoek Ha Tšepo.

Le ha ho le joalo, e le hore tsela ena e tsamaehe, Lekala le boetse le kenyelelitse lethathamong la nakoana la ho lokisa litsela tsa mahlohlojane tse tla qalella selemong sena seo re eang ho sona sa lichelete.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi [Liatla].

16.


DAMAGED ROAD BETWEEN KATSE AND THABA-TSEKA.

HON.

T. J. MOSOTHO (Semena): Asked the Minister of Public Works and Transport; If he is aware that the road from Katse to Thaba-Tseka, Tsekong village, was badly damaged by heavy rains and that currently vehicles can hardly use the road when it rains; and if so, how soon the road will be repaired.

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi, Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
Ke se ke bile ke bona hore ke kopanye microphones e le hore mohlomong ke tle ke utloahale.

Potso ena ea Mohlomphehi Mosotho oa Lebatooa la Semena e nepahetse hore ebe e tlile ho rona.

Karabo ea eona ke ena.

Borokho boo ho buuang ka bona bo tseleng e kopanyang Leribe ho tloha Ha Katse ho isa Thaba-Tseka ho ea teropong Thaba-Tseka.

Eona ke li-kilometara tse 54.

Borokho bono bo ile ba HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 11 hoholeha motseng o bitsoang Tsekong.
Bo ile ba hoholoa ke likhohola ka selemo sa 2021.

Hona joale lekala la heso le lekile ho sebetsana le bothata bona ka hore ebe le etsa borokho ba nakoana.

Le ha ho le joalo meralo ea rona ke hore borokho bona mono moo bo leng teng ho tle ho kenngoe borokho ba… Kea hlokomela Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi hore karabo ea potso ena kaha e ne e nelehelitsoe Setho se seng, botebo ba eona ha bo na hore bo ka mameloa empa ke kopa ke qetele ka hore ke re, meralo ea rona hona joale… karabo ea ka ke hore… HON.
H. LETŠABA (PR): Ntlha ea tsamaiso Mohlomphehi!

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ntlha ea tsamaiso Mohlomphehi Letšaba.

HON.

H. LETŠABA: Mohlomphehi, ntlha ea tsamaiso eo ke emang ka eona ke hore Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane la Public Works and Transport ha le arabele potso e botsitsoeng.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Le etsa joang Mohlomphehi?

HON.

H. LETŠABA: Ha le arabele potso e botsitsoeng.

Potso e re tsela e pakeng tsa Katse le Thaba-Tseka, eseng borokho.
Joale Letona le Khabane lona le arabela borokho.

Kea leboha Mohlomphehi.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Honourable Minister of Public Works and Transport, u ntse u tsoela-pele ka karabo?

[Lerata].

Order!

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Kea leboha, Madam Deputy Speaker.

Ke qetela potso.

Ke re selemong sena se tlang re rerile ho lokisa tsela eo e tlohang Ha Katse ho ea Thaba- Tseka ka ho e kenya letšoana [Liatla].

Likhakanyo tsa mosebetsi ona ke M200, 000,000.


Re tla e kenyeletsa e le taba ea ho hlalosa borokho eleng eona taba e bakileng maqakabetsi ‘me ho tla be ho se ho kenyeletsoa le borokho bo bocha mosebetsing ona e le hore hot le ho tsamauoe ka nako.

Joalokaha ke hlalositse ke itse lekala le kenyelelitse khaho ea tsela ena likhakanyong tsa lichelete tsa selemo sa 2023/2024 ka M200,000,000.00.
Ha ke qetela lipotso tsena tsa litsela, ke tla boela ke u kopa Mohlomphehi hore u tle u ntumelle ke hlalose hanyane maemo a litsela le lichelete tse teng ka mokotleng oa ’Muso le hore na meralo ea rona ea hore re sebetsana le shortfall ena re tla e etsa joang.

Kea leboha.

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 12 HON.

ADV.

L. RAKUOANE: Ntlha ea tsamaiso Honourable Deputy Speaker.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ntlha ea tsamaiso Honourable Rakuoane.

HON.

ADV.
HON.

ADV.

L. RAKUOANE: Ntlha ea tsamaiso eo ke emang ka eona Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Ntlo, ke hore Letona le Khabane le tsebe hore e ke ke ea re ha le qeta ho araba lipotso la ema la re lea akaretsa.

Letona le tla tlisa statement ka mona ka Ntlong.

Letona le tla kopa Ofisi ea hau Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano hore le lumelloe ho tla etsa statement ka litaba tsa litsela.

Taba eo, ke eona eo a tla e etsa, eseng nakong ea lipotso.
Statement se tle ka mona se public se tla fanoa se tla lula se le teng.

Kea leboha.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mohlomphehi, kea e utloa taba ena ea ntlha ea tsamaiso.

Ehlile ho joalo.

Letona le Khabane le tla lokisetsa Ntlo ena e Khabane statement se feletseng e le hore Litho li tle li khone ho mo botsa lipotso ka nako e batlang e le tomanyana ho feta eo a ka e fumanang hona joale ha a ne a ka abeloa monyetla oo.

Ka hona Mohlomphehi re tla e tšohla taba ena.


Litho tse Khabane li tla fumana meralo ea hau ka tsela e phethehileng.

17.

SCHOOLS IN DIRE NEED OF CLASSROOMS.

HON.

L. HLAPISI (’Maliepetsane): Asked the Minister of Education and Training; If he is aware that the tents which had been donated by the ministry to the primary schools of Phocha, Maphonkoane and Lekhache are ruined and that immediate relief is required for the schools; and if so, how soon the Minister will intervene.

HON.
HON.

PROF. N. RAPAPA (Minister Education and Training): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

Le ha potso e botsa ka litente tse senyehileng, tse ileng tsa fanoa lilemong tse fetang leshome tse fetileng, taba-kholo ke tlhokahalo ea meaho likolong tse boletsoeng potsong.

Sekolo sa mathomo sa Phocha se na le liphaposi tse hlano tsa ho rutela barutoana ba one hundred and one (101).

Sekolo sa Maphonkoane se na le liphaposi tse tharo le barutoana ba 240.
Sekolo sa Lekhache se na le barutoana ba 180 ka liphaposi tse tharo tsa ho rutela.

Se boetse se sebelisa le moaho oa kereke.

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 13 Lekala la Thuto le Koetliso le tseba ka tlhokahalo ea meaho likolong tse boletsoeng esitana le likolong tsa mathomo tse ling tse ngata.

Ka lebaka la khaello ea lichelete, lekala la heso le atamela litaba tsa khaho ea meaho ka mekhahlelo.
Ka hoo likolo tsena tse boletsoeng le tsona li tla thusoa ka keketso ea meaho ha boemo ba lichelete bo ntse bo ntlafala.

Kea leboha.

HON.

L. HLAPISI (’Maliepetsane): Potso e nyanyeletsang!

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Potso e nyanyeletsang Setho se Khabane sa Maliepetsane.

HON.

L. HLAPISI: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.


Ke kopa ho botsa Mohlomphehi Letona la Thuto hore na joalokaha le re ke lilemo tse leshome tse fetileng tseo lekala le neng le thusane ka litente likolong tse joalo, litente tsee lekala le ne le iphile nako e kae hore likolo tse tšoanang tsa be li ntse li li sebelisa.

Mohlomphehi, potsong mono ke hlokometse hore ho na le sekolo se seng se sa kenellang seo bana ba bileng ba batla ba felloa ke bophelo ke lipula tse ileng tsa na ha moaho o oela Mohlomphehi.
Kea leboha.

HON.

PROF. N. RAPAPA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

Ke kopa hore u ke u ntumelle hore ke tle ke arabele Setho se Khabane se botsitseng potso e ntle ruri.

Setho se Khabane se botsa ka likolo tsona tsena le tente le likolo tse ling tse tšoanang le tsena le tse sa sebeoang koano.

Joale ke re Mohlomphehi, likolo tse se nang meaho hohang, kahar’a naha ena ea Lesotho, moo ho se nang meaho hohang, ho hlokahala liphaposi tse makholo a mararo le robong (309).
Ke moo ho se nang meaho hohang moo bana ba le teng le litichere.

Mokhahlelo o mong oa bobeli ke moo moaho oa sekolo eleng oa kereke feela.

Ke likereke tse mashome a supileng a metso e robeli Lesotho mona moo bana ba kenelang ka teng.

Ha ho na classroom hohang.

Liphaposi tse hlokahalang mono ke makholo a mahlano le mashome a mane.
Likolo tse hlokang keketso ea meaho eleng tsena tseo Mohlomphehi Setho se khabane sa Maliepetsane a buang ka tsona hajoale re se re fetile tsane tse mashome a mane a metso e mehlano le tse mashome a supileng a metso e robeli.

Tse hlokang keketso ea meaho joalo ka tsena, tsona li makholo a mabeli, mashome a mane a metso e supileng.

Tsona li hloka liphaposi tsa ho rutela tse sekete, mashome a tšeletseng a motso o mong.
Eleng hore Lesotho HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 14 mona Mohlomphehi, ka kakaretso hore bana ba sechaba ba kene likolong ka tsela e tšireletsehileng ho hlokahala… HON.

L. HLAPISI: Point of order!

RT.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Point of order Setho se Khabane sa Maliepetsane.

HON.

L. HLAPISI: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi, Letona le Khabane le ntse le nkaraba le ea hole haholo.
Potso ea ka e ne e re na litente tsena tseo le hlaloselitseng Ntlo ena hore ke lilemo tse leshome tse fetileng, lekala le ne le tšepisitse kapa le ne le itse likolo tsee li sebelise tente tseo nako e kae na?

HON.

PROF. N. RAPAPA: Mohlomphehi, ke kopa Setho se Khabane se ke se eo etsa potso e ncha.

Kea leboha.

18.

REHABILITATION OF ROADS HON.


M. BUSA (Qacha’s Nek): Asked the Minister of Public Works and Transport; If he is aware of the longstanding damage rendered on the following roads in Qacha’s Nek Constituency: (i) Tekane to Maboloka and (ii) White Hill to Qanya, Ha Jobo; and if so, how soon the roads will be rehabilitated for the benefit of the many people who use the roads.

HON.
HON.

N. M. MOTEANE (Minister of Public Works and Transport): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Lekala la heso le hlokometse hore litsela tseo ho buang ka tsona potsong ena e leng ho tloha Ha- Tekane ho isa Maboloka, le ho tloha White Hill ho isa Qanya, Ha Jobo, li maemong a hlobaetsang.

Litsela tsena li setereng sa Qacha`s Nek, lebatooeng la Qacha`s Nek.

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 15 Litsela tsena li kenyelelisoe morerong o moholo oa ho lokisa litsela.
Fela hore na e tla ba ka selemo se feng, hona joale ho latela mothamo o moholo oa mosebetsi, ha li s`o fuoe selemo seo li tla sebetsoa ka sona.

Mothamo ona o moholo ke o etsang lichelete tse 14 billion tseo lekala le lumelang hore la hlokahala ho lokisa litsela ka har`a naha.

Hoo re ntseng re ho etsa hona joale ke hore selemong senase tlang, moo ho leng thata hore ho tsamauoe ho hang re tla etsa ho bitsoang emergency repair.
Ke ho bolela hore re tla tla tseleng re lokise mono fela moo ho thibetsoeng ho fetoa, re lokise sebaka re fete.

Empa tokiso ea moshoelella ke eo ka moso ha pampiri e se e le teng ke e kopetse ho tla e teka ka koano.

Litho tsa Ntlo ena e Khabane li tsebe hore mosebetsi oo o moholo.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ntlha ea tsamaiso, Hon.

Member for Thaba-Phechela.

HON.


M. HLALELE (Thaba-Phechela): Ntlha ea tsamaiso eo ke emang ka eona ke hore Mohlomphehi Letona le ntse le araba hantle, fela o kenya lintho tse ngata haholo tseo etlare ka mora likhoeli tse peli tse tharo ha re mo botsa tsona ebe lia hanana.

U ne u buile hantle ha u re a tle a etse statement a tl`o se beha ka pela Ntlo.

Tsena tse ling li tla hanana.

Kea leboha.

HON.


MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ke utloa ntlha ea tsamaiso, Honourable Member for Thaba-Phechela, `me ke utloile Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane le ananetse kopo ena leha a ne a etsa tlhakiso hore kaha o bontšitse hore master plan ho taba ena ea Qacha `s Nek, fela ho tla ba le emergency repair.

Empa e noted taba eo.

Hothoe e thale e ntse e boela mosehlelong.

Potso ea hau e nyanyeletsang, Hon.

Busa.

HON.


M. BUSA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
Ke utloile karabo ea Letona le Khabane, joalokaha potso e bontšitse hore tšenyeho eno kea nako e telele, ebe na Letona le ke ke la etsa plan ea nako HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 16 e khutšoane ea hore litseleng tseno bonyane ho mpe ho be le mokhoa oa hore sechaba seno se phelang mono se `ne se li sebelise hobane hona joale ha re bua bophelo ba sechaba seno bo tlokotsing karolong ea maeto a sona.

Ebe ho ke keng ha ba le mokhoa oo a ka o etsang hore ha nakoana ha ho ntse ho lokisoa.
Ke utloile hore o itse ha ho s`o boleloe hore na ke selemo se feng li tla kenella.

A ke ke a etsa mokhoa oa nakoana fela hore bophelo bo `ne bo tsoelepele na?

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mohlomphehi Setho se Khabane, ke tl`o lumella Letona le Khabane ho phetha karabo ena eo a neng a se a fane ka eona.

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.


Emergency repair ke lentsoe leo ke le sebelisitseng, ka ba ka re ho lona ha re na etsa tsela kaofela, empa re tla kena moo tsela re bonang hore e se ehlile e le eona sesosa sa hore ebe ha ho sebetsahale ho hang.

Re ntse re lokisa meralo ea hore kapele ka nako e sa feliseng pelo, re tle re tle ka mona ka Ntlong ena ho tla hlalosa hore na li- emergency repair tsa rona li tl`o tsamaea ho kae.

Ke ile ka re tsela ena eo ho buuang ka eona e maemong a hlobaetsang.
Ehlile ho hlokahala hore sechaba seno sa lebatooa la Qacha se phalleloe ka tsela ena e le hore litaba li tle li tsebe ho etsahala.

Hoo ke sa ho joetsang Bahlomphehi ke hore ha se hole haholo le ha bo `me`oaka, ke tseba tsela eno hantle.

Le `na ke hloloa ho fihla ka mehla.

19.

PROVISION OF POTABLE WATER: MAJOE - A – LITŠOENE 20.

TERMINAL BENEFITS OF FORMER LCS COMMISSIONERS Was Deffered Was Deffered 21.CONSTRUCTION OF LITSOETSE (’MATSAILE) ROAD.

HON.
HON.

M. HOLOMO (Thaba-Tseka): Asked the Minister of Public Works and Transport; HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 17 If he is aware that construction of the road from Thaba-Tseka to Litsoetse was abandoned, incomplete, at Ramatšeliso, and that despite several promises made by former governments in their elections bids the road has to-date not been completed; and if the Minister is aware, how soon construction of the road will resume.

HON.
HON.

N. M. MOTEANE (Minister of Public Works and Transport): Madam Deputy Speaker, ke araba potso ena ka tlotla le thabo.

Tsela ena ea Litsoetse ho ea ho`Matsaile, haele hantle e tloha moo ho thoeng ke Mohlanapeng lebatooeng la Thaba-Tseka.

Morero oa teng e ne e le hore e eò fihla Lebakeng.

E ile ea re ka 2007 pele Setho sea se ilo e bula le Majoro e ile ea emisoa ka lebaka la hore hotheo ha hona lichelete.
Mekutu e ile ea etsoa ka morà mono hore ha ho lokisetsoa nako ena eo re qetang ho feta ho eona e boele e thakholoe hape ho tloha ha Ramatšeliso ho ea `Matsaile.

E ile ea tsamaea sebakanyanya, ea boela ea ema.

Merero ea tsela ena ke hore re tla e kenyeletsa ka boleng bono ba eon abo felletseng ba ho kopanya Thaba-Tseka le Lebakeng, re tla e kenyeletsa selemong sena sa 2023/2024.

Bo sieo ba tsela ena bo sotla ka mokhoa o makatsang.
Sechaba sohle sa loti se phelang khohlong ea Senqu seo ha tsela ena e le sieo se tlamehang ho tšela se ee Matebeng, se tlò tsamaea ka tsela ea A3 e eang Thaba- Tseka eo le eona e se ntse e le maemong a hlobaetsang.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

21.ABSENCE OF HEALTH SERVICES: ’MATSAILE HON.
M. HOLOMO (Thaba-Tseka): Asked the Minister of Health; If he is aware that the absence of buildings for use as a clinic necessitated the leasing of a building from a resident, and that building has since been closed down due to damage caused by rain, resulting in non-delivery of health services in the area, and also that the rent for the leased building has not been paid for about “three”(3) years; and if the Minister is aware, can he say how soon the problems will be resolved as this is a very hard to reach area and travel is difficult.
HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 18 HON.

S. MOCHOBOROANE (Minister of Health): Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano, lekala la Bophelo, joalokaha Setho se Khabane se boletse potsong, ha lea aha setsi sa bophelo Ha `Matsaile, le ne le fana ka tšebeletso ntlong e neng e hiriloe hona motseng moo.

Ntlo eo e neng e sebelisoa e ile ea angoa ke lipula tsa likhohola ka khoeli ea Mphalane.

Lekala le ile la emisa ho fana ka litšebeletso ka nako eo.
Lekala le mothating oa ho reka thepa e lokisang ntlo eo, `me litšebeletso li tsebe ho tsoelapele.

Lekala le hlokometse hore ntlo eno e hiriloeng ha e so lefshoe.

Tiehiso ena e bakiloe ke hore mongà ntlo o ile a lieha ho finyeletsa litokomane tsa bojalefa le boitsebiso.

Tumellano e ile ea etsoa ha litokomane li fihla.

Litefo tseo li se ntse li sebetsoa, `me li tla lefshoa selemong sena sa lichelete.

23.PROVISION OF ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO AREAS CLOSE TO TOWNS Was Deffered 24.REHABILITATION OF ROADS.

HON.
HON.

M. MALOTHOANE (Tsolo): Asked the Minister of Local Government, Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police; To say how soon the road from Lesia High School in Thetsane Constituency to Linakotseng in Likotsi Constituency, which goes through the Tsolo Constituency, will be repaired; and also when drainage/flood pipes will be contructed, in the ditch below the school, to service the roads to Thaba-Tseka and on tho Ha Lekhooa, Lesia to Holong ea Lipaki and Lekhaleng to Likotsi.

HON.
HON.

L. LEPHEMA (Minister of Local Government, Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police): 24.

REHABILITATION OF ROADS.

HON.
M. MALOTHOANE (Tsolo): Asked the Minister of Local Government, Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police; HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 19 To say how soon the road from Lesia High School in Thetsane Constituency to Linakotseng in Likotsi Constituency, which goes through the Tsolo Constituency, will be repaired; and also when drainage/flood pipes will be constructed, in the ditch below the school, to service the roads to Thaba-Tseka and on to Ha Lekhooa, Lesia to Holong ea Lipaki and Lekhaleng to Likotsi.
HON.

L. LEPHEMA (Minister of Local Government, Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police): Ke tla e araba hantle, Mohlomphehi.

Mohlomphehi Deputy Speaker, potso ea Setho se Khabane sa Ha-Tsolo e bua ka tsela e tlohang Lesia eo ho eona Lekala la heso le hlokometseng hore kamorao hore lipula tsa likhohola tse ngata, tsela ena e boemong bo seng botle haholo, e seng eona feela le tse ling ka hare ho toropo ea Maseru.
Lekala la heso le ikelelitse hore tsela ena e tle e lokisoe e seng tsela feela empa ho lokisoe le drainage system ea eona hang-hang feela ha ho qetoa ho ajoa chelete kapa ha chelete e ba teng tsela ena e tla sebetsoa [Liatla] 25.

MEASURES TO ENHANCE TSOLO POLICE SERVICES.

HON.
M. MALOTHOANE (Tsolo): Asked the Minister of Local Government, Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police; If he is aware that the Tsolo Police Service number only forty (40) and yet are charged with jurisdiction over parts of Maseru Central Constituency, Thetsane Constituency, Likotsi Constituency as well as Tsolo Constituency; and if so, can the Minister say when the Tsolo police strength will be enhanced; and in the fight against crime, a proper police station be built, high mast floodlights (Li-apollo) be installed, and the Tsolo road be upgraded to tarmac.
HON.

L. LEPHEMA (Minister of Local Government, Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police): Mohlomphehi Deputy Speaker, potso ena ea Setho se Khabane, ke potso eo Lekala la heso le etseng hloko haholo hobane mona oa bontsa hore motebo oa Sepolesa o sebakeng sa Ha-Thetsane o bonahala o se o fokola haholo ho latela kamoo sebaka seno se seng se holile kateng.

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 20 Lekala la heso le mothating oa ho bona hore Mapolesa a ka eketseha ho thusa sebakeng sena.
Ha joale ka mane ka PTC makoloane a teng a tla tsoa haufi, ‘me ho tla bonoa hore ho eketsoa mapolesa sebakeng sena e seng sena feela le libaka tse ling.

Kaholimo ho mono re elelletsoe hore kaha joale ho se ho pharalletse haholo, ho tla hlokahala hore ho be le metebo e meng ea Sepolesa eo re ntseng re sebetsa ka thata hore na nakong ena ea phomolo ea Keresemese re ka etsa joang hore re tle re behe leha e ka ba li-satellite police station.

Taba eno e ntse e sebetsoa.


Re lakatsa hore re tle re bone hore na nakong ena ea Keresemese re ke keng ra etsa mosebetsi o joalo.

Tabeng ea bobeli ea Setho se Khabane sa Tsolo, ke eo a kopang hore ho ke ho kenngoe mabone ana a matelele a khonang ho etsa light sebaka se seholo kapa a bitsoang li-apollo.
Re elelletsoe, Mohlomphehi, hore taba eo, ke tlhoko e kholo kaha sebakeng sena ho bile ho na le lifeme tse ngata haholo tse hirileng Basotho ba bangata ba lokelang ho tśireletsoa, ‘me re ntse re sebetsa ka thata ho bona hore e kenyetsoa ho li-budget ea selemo se tlang.

Kea leboha.

26.

NEED FOR POTABLE WATER.

27.

PROVISION OF HEALTH SERVICES.

Was Deffered HON.


T. NKOEFOSHE (Tsoelike): Asked the Minister of Health; To say how soon health services will be provided to the communities of the following villages: (i) Ha Chaba, (ii) Mosiuoa, and (iii)Masuoaneng.

HON.

S. MOCHOBOROANE (Minister of Health): The ministry is aware that the communities of Ha-Cheba, Mosuoaneng and Masuoane, need a clinic.
There is a health post in Masuoaneng which is supposed to provide health services and the ministry has already identified nurses who will be deployed at a health post.

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 21 There is a challenge of accommodation for the Nurses but the ministry is working on the issue.

The ministry has established that the other two villages need a clinic because they serve many people in those communities.
In the meantime the people from those communities can access health services from Sehlabathe, Rankala, Mosafeleng which has recently opened even though they are a bit far.

HON.

M. MOFOMOBE (PR): Point of Order!

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Point of Order ka Honourable M. Mofomobe.

HON.

M. MOFOMOBE: Point of Order ea ka ke hore Setho se Khabane the Honourable Minister of Health ka nepo, ‘M’e Deputy Speaker, there are two official languages Lesotho mona, ‘me Senyesemane ke e ‘ngoe ea tsona.
Potso ena ke ea Tsoelike koana hle batho ba Molimo.

Motseng koana ba shebelletse hona joale, ke hore ha ba utloe letho hore na Letona le Khabane le reng.

Ke re na a ka ba mohau hore a toloke.

Ke ne ke e na le motlatsi e mong oa moetapele ho party eaka a etsa tjena, ntho eno e kotsi, o ne a peteketsa Senyesemane sena.

Ke kopa hore, Motaung, ak’u u mpe u tolokelle batho ba Tsoelike feela hore na le bolulo ba Manese bo etsoa joang, bo tla lokisoa neng.

Kea leboha ‘M’e Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ae, kannete, ha se hakaakang point of order mono empa e le taba ea keletso.

Ke lumela hore Mohlomphehi Mokhethoa o fumane taba ena ka botlalo a tla e fitisa ka manoni a eona lebatooeng koana, Mohlomphehi.

28.

MAINTENANCE OF WATER SUPPLY PIPES.

Was Deffered 29.

RURAL ELECTRIFICATION.

Was Deferred 30.

INFORMATION REGARDING APPOINTMENT OF WOMEN MP’s TO CABINET.

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 22 HON.


M. SENAUOANE (PR): Asked the Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office; To shed some light to this Honourable House on the reasons that the Prime Minister has selected only three (3) women MPs to the Cabinet, and to also say whether this is not tantamount to gender based discrimination.

HON.
HON.

S. MOCHOBOROANE (Minister of Health): Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano, khetho ea bahlomphehi matona e etsoa ho ipapisitsoe le temana ea motheo ea mashome a robeli a metso e supileng (87) (4), ea Molao oa Motheo oa Lesotho.

Temana eo, ha ho moo e fang Mohlomphehi Tona-Kholo lipehelo tsa hore na a khethe litho tsa Lekhotla la Matona joang, eba ke ka botona kapa botsehali, lilemo e leng bonyane kapa boholo joalo-joalo.
Ke taba e etsahalang hore khetho ea litho tsa matona ke boikhethelo (propagative).

Ha’ khethile mang kapa mang, kapa a sa khetha mang kapa mang ha ho na le moo a tlamehang hore a arabe teng kapa a botsoe teng.

Ke boikhethelo ba hae.

Empa leha ho le joalo, Setho se Khabane se ele hloko hore Mohlomphehi Tona-Kholo ea teng hajoale, o matlafalitse haholo teka-tekano ka hore Lesotho lekhetlo la pele le na le Motlatsi oa Tona-Kholo oa mosali [Liatla].

Kahona ha ho khethollo ea letho e entsoeng.

HON.


MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Point of Order ka Honourable Member for Makhaleng.

HON.

M. LEHATA (Makhaleng): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Kannete ke itse kea iphapanya, ache pelo e’a hana.

Ke bone ha ho etsoa tabling of Subordinate Laws mona ho tsamaea li-file tse bolou.

Joale, ke re file e bolou ’Musong moo e qala ho sebetsa hona tjee kapa ke ntho e lulang e le teng?

Kapa hosane e tla ba e tšehla ebe e khubelu neng-neng?
Hantle ke batla ho tseba hore na li-file tse bolou tsena hore na molato oa tsona ke ofe na?

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ache, re ananela ho ea papatsong, Mohlomphehi.

Litho tse Khabane, ha re ntse re tsoelapele ka Mosebetsi oa Ntlo ke ile ka hlalosa pejana hore Likomiti ha li e-s’o be teng kahoo mekha le makhotla, lithala le matšolo ba hopotsoa hore ba lokela ho fana ka mabitso le lithahasello tsa Litho Likomiting tsa Paramente.
Ke khopotso taba ena, ‘me ba finyelletse tsena hosane eleng Labohlano pele ho hora ea borobong hoseng.

Ha re le mothating ona ke tla kopa Mohlomphehi Leader of the House hore a tle a re fe tataiso tabeng ea HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 23 sena seo ke qetang ho se bolela.

Honourable Leader of the House.

Honourable Minister of Health.

HON.

S. MOCHOBOROANE (Minister of Health): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
Lebitsong la the Leader of the House, ho ile ha etsoa phatlalatso hore li-party tse ka Paramenteng ka mona li fane ka mathathamo le lithahasello tsa Litho ka bo-mong hore ho bonoe hore na ba na le thahasello ea ho ea likomiting lifeng.

Taba eno eba eona e nolofaletsang Business Committee hore joale ho tsejoe ho ea thehoa likomiti ka ho fapana.

Tabeng ea hore na likomiti ha ho se ho bokeletsoe manane joale li tla theoa joang, li tla theoa ka ho latela the numerical strength of each political party.
Tebello ke hore haeba li-party li se li hlile li entse submission kajeno, Business Committe e ka ba kajeno e tla tseba hore joale ho latela lipalo-palo ba tsebe ho aba Litho ka likomiti ka ho fapana.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Kea leboha, Honourable Leader of the House.

Your Point of Order, Honourable Mofomobe.

HON.


M. MOFOMOBE: My point of order ‘M’e Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano, ke hore na, hana Business Committee e na le matla a ho bitsa Setho ha se kentse tlhahiso ka har’a Ntlo ee ha Speaker se e entse approve?

Na Business Committee e na le matla a ho bitsa Setho hore se il’o hlalosa motion oa sona, can you rule on that?

HON.
HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Business Committee e na le matla a ho teka tšebetso ea Ntlo, ke hore ho etsa allocate Business ho ea ka hore na approval tse entsoeng ke tsa mofuta ofeng.

Le teng ke tumelo eaka hore ho ba le kutloisiso e chorileng hase hore ho ka thibela Litho hore ha ho e na le taba e seng e fetisitsoe ka ho Ofisi ea Speaker ebe taba eo e emisoa ke Business Committee.

Eona e se e le procedure hore e fetisetse taba moo e lokelang hore e tle e tlil’o tla ka Ntlong ka mona, kea leboha.
Next item, Mr.

Clerk!

PROCEEDINGS ON SUBSTANTIVE MOTIONS AND BILLS HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 24 MOTION 5.

REINSTATEMENT OF FOUR BILLS AFFECTED BY DISSOLUTION.

(To be moved without Notice under Standing Order No.

32 (3)) Question that Motion No.

5 be moved wihout Notice under Standing Order No.

32 (3) put and agreed to HON.


MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ke tsoelepele, Bahlomphehi, ha re sheba lethathamong la letsatsi la kajeno, Setho se Khabane sa Makhaleng se na le sehlomathiso tlhahisong ea Mohlomphehi Leader of the House.

Holatela Melao ea Tsamaiso re lokela ho qala moo pele ka sehlomathiso seo.

Kahona ke fa Honourable Member for Makhaleng hore a tsoelepele ka amendment ea hae.

You may move your amendment.

HON.

M. LEHATA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
Ke kopa ho etsa move; That in Motion No.5 in the listed Bills on the Order Paper, the following Bills should be included; (i) Public Officers Defined Contribution Pension Fund (Amendment) (ii) Bill, 2022.
(vi) Specified Offices Defined Contribution Pension Fund (Amendment) Bill, 2022 Melao ena eo Motion ona o tlileng ka eona le oa Millennium Challenge Account- Lesotho II Authority Bill, 2022 le ena e meng e tsamaeang le litaba tsena tsa Millenium Challenge e bohlokoa haholo kahare ho naha ea Lesotho hobane e tlo bulela mokotla hore joale chelete eno eo Amerika e re tšepisitseng eona e tle kahare ho naha sechaba se tsebe ho imona molemo ka eona le ho nyolla moruo oa naha.
Empa joale ke kopela ena e ‘meli hape e bohlokoa ka lebaka feela ka hore the gazette ea melao ena e tsoile after dissolution, le eona e ile ea oelella feela e ne e ntse e le melao e fetileng kahar’a matlo a mabeli e seng e ile ho His Majesty for Royal Assent.

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 25 Leha u fihla Government Printing u oa e fumana u oa e reka feela e fihlile ea pitloa ke taba eno ea dissolution of Parliament.
Joale bohlokoa ba melao kea hore e bua ka li-pension tsa bahlanka, hore kahar’a their fund credit,under the pension fund, cheleteng ea bona ha e batle chelete ea ‘Muso, ha e batle chelete ea sechaba.

E ne empa feela e le molao o reng licheleteng tsa bona ha ba ea hae molao oa pele o ne o re ba fumane 25% of their funds credit.

Joale ho etsoa amend molao ona hore ebe 50% of their fund credit e le hore h’a ea hae a ee ka cheletenyana e ngata ho feta ea neng a ntse a e fumana.
Cheleteng ea hae e leng ho li-saving tsa mang, tsa hae.

E leng ho personal account ea mang, ea mohlanka ho latela hore joale under the Pension Fund we contribute from our service ho fapane leha khale ha re tla etsa molao ona hore re etse contribute, molao oa pele e ne e le oa Pension Proclamation ea 1964, o neng o etsa hore bahlanka ba be worse-off.

Ha ea ho pension a qeta ho khola likhoeli tse peli, ha hlokahala lelapa lona ha le sa fumana letho.
Empa ke ona h’a se a le pencheleng leha a hlokahetse lelapa le ntse le fumana kahar’a account eno ea hae hobane ke chelete ea hae e le motho.

Joale tebello ea bona e ne e le hore molao oo ha o ne o etsoa, ba tsamaeang ka nako eo molao oo o seng o fetile batho ba babeli o ea hae ka 50% not 25%.
E leng hore kelello ea hae le meralo ea hae e ne e se e ntse e le hore ke ea ke tšoere R10 e seng R5.00, e ba ama habohloko bophelong le litaba-tabelong ea bona hore joale ha molao ona o oele ba sitoa hore ba lefelloe ka ona hobane ho ntse ho sebelisoa oa pele ho ona o buang ka 25%.

Even the Members of Parliament le bona and other social politics ba bang ba entse retire ba tsamaile.
Le bona tebello ea bona ke hore we are expecting 50% from our fund credit empa hona joale molao ona ha o sebetsa, e leng hore o ba ama maphelong ea bona ka chelete ea bona.

Ka hona ke kopela hore le eona e kene e le karolo ea melao ena hore ho etsoe process litaba tsa bona tse seng li entsoe recalculate e le hore ba il’o phela hantle moo ba eang teng [Liatla].

Litho tse Khabane, ke lehlasipa la ho ba kathoko ho Ntlo ena, ke tseba lebatama la kantle, akere lea utla [Litšeho].
Kea tseba hore na ho joang kantle.

Ke ne ke ka bona motho e mong a ntšeha ke re ka 2017 ha ke qeta ho hloloa ke likhetho ke ne ke hlanye for 3 days [Litšeho] ke sa tsebe hantle hore na ke ‘na kapa hase ‘na.

Ha ke tsoha ke se ke ntse ke re, ‘le re ke hlotsoe ke likhetho’, ke ne ke leka ho le bontša feela hore na ho joang.
Ke ba kopela hore kaha litokelo tsa bona li moo re mpe re HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 26 ba feng monyetla ono oa hore ba se ke ba ba worse-off, ba ilo qala bophelo ba bona ka chelete ea savings tsa bona hantle etsoe e ba lokela.

Re ba lumelle hore meea e khutle ba tsebe ho ea phela hobane kannete ha u ile ua ba ka mona, ha u fihla ka mane li-challenge li ngata haholo, u il’o qala bophelo bo bocha.
Kea kholoa ke Paramenteng ena moo ke bonang hore kannete boholo ba litho ke batho ba likhoebo, ha ba tsoa mona ba ikela khoebong tsa bona.

Pele ho ne ho itlela bana ba hailang ba se nang likhoebo ba politically motivated, ba sebetsang le sechaba empa e seng batho ba business minded haholo like set-up eo re nang le eona hona joale, e leng hore ba tlameha hore ba il’o qala tsona likhoebo tseno hore ba tsebe ho ea iphelisa….

ba hore bana ba Basotho ba bang le bana ba bona.


Hona joale ba ea Christmas, January ke school-fees, nahana mokhethoa kapa mohlanka a ntse a re ‘ke lebeletse pension eaka, ak’u nkalime moo ke rekele ngoana liphahlo ho boima.’ U’a utloa u se u tla ho level efeng, e fapaneng.
Joale ha re ba thuseng hore bahlanka bano ba sechaba ba ‘Muso ba penchetseng molao ona o se o ntse o fetile matsohong ana re ba thuse hore ba fumane ka mokhoa oo ba neng ba lebeletse kateng ekasitana le other former members of this House bao 98% of them ba leng sieo ka mona.

Re ba feng hore ba il’o qala bophelo bo bocha hobane hosane re kanna ra kopana re ea ho bona, bona ba tla koano.

Maea ke maboea, lea bona ho boima joang [Liatla le Litšeho].
Ka hona kannete, Litho tse Khabane, ke ne ke rapela hore amendment ena eo ke e kopang ke e kope hore le be pelo-tlhomohi e kene hobane e ama maphelo a batho.

Re be re lebohe moetsi oa Standing Order sena se etsang hore…..No.105 (b) [Liatla], re mo lebohe haholo.

Litho tse Khabane, re tlameha re utloisise hore the reason why there is Parliament and the selections after every 5 years, ke hobane bophelo le bona bo ntse bo tsamaea joalo.
We are here to amend the laws and make new laws even ho shebana le li-challenge tse ling hore ha bothata bo bateng bo ka boo re ka etsa joang hore bo se hlole bo ba teng.

Joale this Standing Order e thusa hore re se ke ra khutlela morao re il’o batla li-bill tse seng li entsoe, ebe li tla ka Paramenteng ho qala qalong.

Re boetse re li etsa hape li ea Senateng li boetse li ea khutla.

Taba eno e boloka chelete e ngata ea ‘Muso le nako.
Bill ho tla ka mona hape financially e na le hore eja litjeho tsa ‘Muso empa tse tsosoang mane ho etsa re- instate li se li le pele….

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 27 HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, Honourable Member.

Order!

Ke u mametse hantle hore u ntse u rekisa taba ea Amendment ena ‘me taba eno e nepahetse ka tsela e khethehileng.
Ke batla feela re tsitse holim’a taba eo u e kenyang hona joale ea ho kopela likarolo tsena hore li tlil’o tla li ba teng e le karolo ea Amendment hobane ke hona re tlang joale re tlil’o thala ka manoni a karolo ena ea re-instatement.

Tsoelapele, Honourable Member.

HON.

M. LEHATA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

Motho ha rapela o’a khumama, o’a itiha a be a ipitike h’a batla mohau.

Ke ne ke mpa ke ipatlela mohau feela e seng ho hong.
Ka hona kea li kopela, ‘M’e, hore Amendment tsena ebe karolo ea the motion, I thank you.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Litho tse Khabane, mofuta ona oo eleng Amendments ha o tlatsoe.

Question Proposed That in Motion No.5 in the listed Bills on the Order Paper, the following Bills should be included; (iii) Public Officers Defined Contribution Pension Fund (iv) (Amendment) Bill, 2022.

(vi) Specified Offices Defined Contribution Pension Fund (Amendment) Bill, 2022 Amendment put and agreed to HON.
MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Honourable Leader of the House.

Honourable Minister of Health.

HON.

S. MOCHOBOROANE: Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano, I rise to move; That this Honourable House resolves to reinstate the Bills listed below at the stage they had reached before the dissolution of the 10th Parliament, pursuant to Standing Order No.

105(B): (i) Millennium Challenge Account-Lesotho II Authority Bill, 2022.
(ii) Millennium Challenge Account Lesotho Authority (Winding up and Repeal) Bill, 2022.

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 28 (iii) Harmonization of the Rights of Customary widows with Legal Capacity of Married Persons Bill, 2022.

(iv) Counter Domestic Violence Bill, 2022.

(v) Public Officers Defined Contribution Pension Fund (Amendment) Bill, (vi) 2022.
(vi) Specified Offices Defined Contribution Pension Fund (Amendment) Bill, 2022 Ka ’nete motion ona ke motion o bohlokoa haholo oo Mohlomphehi, Moetapele oa Ntlo bekeng e fetileng ha a ne a araba lipotso ka mona ka Ntlong o ile a supa hore o tla tlisa Business ena ea Ntlo e ileng ea oela e liuoa ke dissolution ka mekhahlelo.
Sehlomathiso sena se etsoang ke Mokhethoa oa Lebatooa la Makhaleng ke karolo ea lihlomathiso tsena ’me le hona moo motion ona o supang hona teng li-Bill tsena o stage se tšoanang hantle.

Kahona ha ho na khang tabeng eno hore re amohele lihlomathiso tsena.
Ke rata ho supa, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano, hore Paramenteng ea borobeli ha ‘na ke neke qala ho utloa lentsoe prorogation, re ile ra bona mosebetsi o thata ha ho thoe paramente e entsoe prorogue joale melao e re mosebetsi ono o oelelletse ea re hare sheba ka mora ho etsa mosebetsi o matla o molemong oa naha ena joale re sheba mofuta oa mosebetsi ono o oetseng taba ena e neng e re emisitse lihloho le Litho tsa Ntlo ena e Khabane ka nako eno Paramenteng ea borobeli.
Ka ’nete motho o ntso o lokela ho bua o re Setho se Khabane honourable Lekhetho Rakuane o ne a pholose Ntlo ena hobane e ne e be o tla ka Sehlomathiso se hlomathisang li Standing Orders.

Sehlomathiso seno ke 105(b) se hlileng se re reng ha paramente e ile ea angoa ke dissolution prorogation re be le monyetla oa hore business eno re late ha e le molemong oa Ntlo hore re hemele moea joale e tsoele-pele e tsoele naha molemo.
Ka ’nete mosebetsi ona o Ntlo eo etsang kajeno ke o mong o tšoaeng nalane oa ho sebelisa bohlale bono boo honourable Lekhetho Rakuane a kileng a ba le bona oa hore business e se ke ea oelella.

Ke hlalosetsoa ke ba tlileng pele ho ’na hore maemong a mang re hloka hore re lule re na le prorogation sebakeng sa ho fetola oa li-session.
Ba hlalosang ba bolela hore ha o ka bonahala Ntlo e se e hlile tafoleng ea rona ho se ho le bohlasoa haholo re hloka hore re hloekise le matsatsi fela a leshome le metso e mene paramente e ka etsoa prorogue hore re tlose bohlasoa joale re tsebe ho qala bocha.

Ka ’nete sepheo sa hore hone hona le prorogation se ne se nepahetse.

Hoa HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 29 utloahala hore le sepheo sa hore hobe le dissolution haona ka tsela eo re ka ra qobang ka eona.
Re na le melao e mengata e bohlokoa e molemong oa naha ena eo re lokelang ho e tsosa.

Mohlomphehi moeta-pele oa Ntlo, ka lebaka la bohlokoa ba mokhahlelo ona oa pele oo re o amohelang le sehlomathiso sena se entsoeng ke mokhethoa oa makhaleng, ka ’nete boikeletso ke hore re se re le tlasa pressure ea litumellano tseo re nang le tsona haholo-holo ha re tlo kena tabeng ena ea Compact 2.

Ha rena ka tsela e fe kapa e fe eo re ka ra tlamehang re hulanye maoto.
Ka mokhoa o tšoanang le lihlomathiso tsena tseo mokhethoa oa lebatooa la Makhaleng a fihlang a li kenyeletsang.

Taba ea li-pension tsa bahlanka ba ’muso e bile sello sa nako e telele seo ba ileng ba leka mekhoa eohle ea hore haeba take home ea bona ke 25% fela ka ’nete taba ena e ke e shejoe chelete eo ba hlokang hore ba e fumane ke chelete ea bona eo ba e ntseng contribution eo ba e sebelelitseng ka nako eo ba leng mosebetsing.
Taba ena e ne e re hobaneng ba ke keng ba behoa boemo boo ba 50 % ha ba hloka hore bae hae.

Paramente ea leshome ile ea e ba le bohlale hore e ikeletse hore ho mpe ho ho tlisoe molao ka Paramenteng ka mona o ba lamellang hore ba ka fumana 50%.
Ho na ke kutloisiso ea hore ha maemo e le ana a mofuta o na bahlanaka ba ’muso ka ha re ntse re bile re lla re le naha hore re imetsoe ke Wage Bill eo ha ba bona ho batalalitsoe mabala a hore temong mane li-market li lokisitsoe hantle ba ka re thusa hore balo hlahisa le bona ba ka tseba hore ba nke li-parkage tsa bona ba tsamaee ba ilo hlahisa joale e be re holisa moruo hoba le monyetla oa hore hona le ba tsebang hore moruo o ’ne o hole.
Ka hona, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi, lebitsong la Mohlomphehi Moeta-pele oa Ntlo ke ananela sehlomathiso sena se tlang ka mokhethoa oa (Matsieng) Makhaleng.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Etsa tokiso moo Mohlomphehi.

HON.

S. MOCHOBOROANE: Ke kopa tšoarelo mono Mohlomphehi.

Ha ke ntse ke le ngoana sekolo joale ke bona Paramente ea botšelela haeba ke sa hopola hantle.

Ke bona moshanyana a monyane eo e leng Leparamente kore ka utloa ke le inspired joale ka batla ho atamela pela moshanyana enoa.
Ka utloa ho thoe ke mokhethoa oa Matsieng, joale ha esale ke nka ntho eo ea mokhethoa oa Matsieng ka nako eno.

HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 30 Joale, ka ’nete kene ke re cho ke re Mohlomphehi mokhethoa oa Makhaleng o ile oa kenya susumetso ke ne ke bona o le ntoana joale ka re lenna ke batla lilemong tsa bocha ba ka lenna ke tle ke be paramenteng mona ke mokhoa ona ke ileng ka etsa hore ke sebeletse hore ke tle paramenteng mona ke le lilemo tse mashome a mararo a metso e mene.
Ke lokisa phoso eno, Mokhethoa oa Makhaleng.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Point of order, Honourable Mofomobe.

HON.

M. MOFOMOBE: Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano, point of order eo ke emang ka eona ke hore, Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane o lebala hore a re Paramenteng eno ho ne ho e na le Ramootsi le Mootsi eleng ntate le mora eleng enoa.

Re maketse hore na ntho ena e se e le ea lelapa kapa ke ea eng.

Kea leboha.

HON.
Kea leboha.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Point of order eno ke thuto ho Litho tse Khabane tse ntseng li e ba le tsebo ka tsamaiso kapa Bahlomphehi ba bileng teng mona pele.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Bahlomphehi ha e le mona sehlomathiso se amohetsoe re tsoela-pele ka sisinyo ea Honourable Leader of the House as amended.

HON.
HON.

S. MOCHOBOROANE (Minister of Health): Honourable Madam Deputy Speaker, I rise to move; That this Honourable House resolves to reinstate the Bills listed below at the stage they had reached before the dissolution of the 10th Parliament, pursuant to Standing Order No.

105(B): (i) Millennium Challenge Account-Lesotho II Authority Bill, 2022.

(ii) Millennium Challenge Account Lesotho Authority (Winding up and Repeal) Bill, 2022.
Harmonization of the Rights of Customary widows with Legal Capacity of Married Persons Bill, 2022.

(iii) (iv) Counter Domestic Violence Bill, 2022.

(v) Public Officers Defined Contribution Pension Fund (vi) (Amendment) Bill, 2022.

(vi) Specified Offices Defined Contribution Pension Fund (Amendment) Bill, 2022 Kea leboha Mohlomphehi Motlatsi oa Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Kannete ke tla otla hanyane feela ke siele Litho tse Khabane.
Ke se ke ile ka otla nakong eo ke neng ke HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 31 ananela Sehlomathiso sa Setho se Khabane sa Makhaleng hore melao ena ke melao e bohlokoa haholo.

Boikeletso ba ’Muso ke hore melao ena ha ea fella Litho tse Khabane.

Qeto ke hore ebe re nkile mokhahlelo oa pele.

Le tla hlokomela hore mokhahlelo oa pele re tlisitse melao e neng e se e emetse royal ascent e se e fetile li- stage tsena kaofela.
Ena eo re e fetisang kajeno ke melao e neng e se e tlohile ka mona ka ho National Assembly e tlohile ka Senate e se e hlile e le moo e emetseng feela hore Motlotlehi Khosi a e tekenele.

Re tsosa hona moo eleng hona teng holatela tsela eo re bontšitseng ka eona.
Mokhahlelo o mong oa bobeli e tl’o ba hore re tsose ena e salletseng e ntse e le ho stage seno sa ho qetela e be mokhahlelo o mong e ba hore re tsose melao e ka mane ka Senate re tsose melao e national Assembly e likomiting e be mosebetsi ono o phethetsoe ono oa ho tsosa melao.

Ho boetse hape hona le mosebetsi oa moholo haholo oa hore joale re ke re tlo shebana le omnibus Bill.
Eona e re tlama hore Bahlomphehi Baeta-pele ba makhotla, mekha ea lipolotiki, lithala, matšolo, kaofela ho ke hobe le li-consultation re bue ka hore re tlo sebetsa joang ’moho.

Li- consultation tseno li boetse hape li tla hloka hore re ee le ho Litho tsa Senate.

Ka mokhoa o tšoananng le pele Litho tse Khabane li tlo fitisa molao o moholohali ka mona ka Ntlong ka mona.

Le bona re tla lokela hore informally hobe le li- consultation ba utloisise e le hore re be le ownership ea omnibus Bill re le naha.
Hantle li-reform hase tsa ’Muso ebile hase tsa Opposition hape-hape hase tsa rona re le li-political parties, re le boemeli ba li-political parties ke tsa naha, li reretsoe hore li tlise phetoho botsitsong ba naha le tsamaisong ea eona le kholisong ea moruo oa naha ea Lesotho.
Boikeletso ba ’Muso ke hore mekhahlelo eo re e nka e tlaba eona eno ea hore re qetelletse mosebetsi ona reo phethetse joalo ka Mohlomphehi Tona-Kholo puo ea hae ea inagoration a ile a bolela hore ha hona ka tsela efe kapa efe priority no.1 ea ’muso ke ho bona hore melao e’a feta Paramenteng.

Ke ho bona hore li-reform re fihla moo re fihlelang to the finality ’me ha re no ho fihla hona mono ha re ea ka meea.
Re tla fihla mono ha re ea ka likelello re sebelisa li kelello ho feta lipelo tsa rona, ’me re fihla re haha re ntša sehlahisoa se tla tsoela naha ea Lesotho molele.

Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano, ha keno batla hore HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 32 ke kene haholo ke se ke ile ka bua ka tsona li-Bill tsena.

Ka ’nete kea sisinya hore Ntlo ena ananele motion ona.

Kea leboha.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Thank Honourable Leader of the House.

May I have a Seconder please?

Honourable Rakuoane.


HON.

ADV.

L. RAKUOANE (PR): Ke lebohile Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi.

Ka ’nete ke leboha monyetla oo mphang ona ha leihlo la hao le mpone.

Kea tseba hore ka lebaka la tšobotsi ea motion ona mohlomong ho ne ho kathoe na hobaneng ha bohanyetsi bo tlatsa puso.

Ntse ke hopola ha ke sisinya kotopo mona ke ile ka tlatsoa ke Honourable Monyane moleleki.

E ne e le ’Muso ke le ka le lehlakoreng le ka nqane re lokisa molao ono oa the 9th Amendment.
Ke kopa ke lebohe Moeta-pele oa Ntlo ka mokhoa oo a ntoloking hantle.

Ho thoe batho ha ba sa fumana li tlotla matsatsing ana.

Re se re tloloa ha re se re shoele joale ke hantle ha ntse ke tlotloa ke le ka Ntlong ka mona.

Ka hona ke lebohile haholo Setho se Khabane sa Makhaleng.

Ka ’nete e bile ke leboha haholo hobane ke sehoai se seholo.

Ke leboha hape hobane litaba tsona tsena tsa melao ea tsamaiso ke bone nqa tse ling moo le li private members Bill, ’muso o li nkang ka nako engoe haona le thahasello.
Se ne ntse re bontša ka nako ea orientation hore hoka etsahala hore melao ea ’muso e folang mane e sitoa ho tsamaea re fihle re nke mona ka mahlakore a mabeli.

Ha re nkile re be le standing order seo ’muso ha re qeta ho teka molao re le private members ba fihle ba choabole hobane hantle lesapo leno ke la ’muso.
Li judistrictions tse ling li re a private member a ka beha taba mona haholo rona ba bang re ka fumana hore melao eno haeba ’muso o na le thahasello e tloha e lo ema ka mane ka senate joale ’muso haona le thahasello ea private member o nke e be o so matha ka ona o isa bo Senate o etsa hore o tsebe ho potlaka.

Ka hona ke tiisa taba ena ea collaboration.


Ka bokhutšoanyane ha ke tlatsa moeta-pele oa Ntlo ke mpe ke re melao ea ne e mene joalokaha a boletse re ile ra hlokomela le ha taba ena e batlile e re beha tsietsing rona ba bohanyetsi ka nako ea inogration ha sefofane sa America setla mona se tlisa HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 33 moemeli hore na ebe taba ena ke eona na.

empa rea tseba hore hona le thahasello ekholo ka mokhoa oo ba ileng ba re peteletsa Lesotho ka hore re sebetse taba eno ea compact.
Ba ile batla mona Lesotho.

Re naha ea pele eo America e ileng eat la mona ho tla etsa sign compact.

Hoa utloahala hore ha o kathoe melao e oetse elo qaloa fatše e ne e tloba bohloko bo tšabehang ere tlontlolla re le naha hore na batho baka re etsetsa lintho tse kalo batla ha ba beha tona-kholo ka nako ea ntate Majoro, batla mona ho tla etsa sign Lesotho, mehlaena batho bae a holimo le tlase balo etsa sign America.

Joale re ne re fumane tlotla.


Ntho ke sa e tsebeng ke hore na chelete ena e lekane kapa che mohlomong e tlare ha re liella o tla ka refe hore na mohamo oa hao so thoe 600 million neng neng ke 300 million joale ke bona matsatsing ana ho ngoloa 600 joale ho bonahala e mengoe.

Ke nahana pele re koala ka mona atle a ka re fe hore na ke 600 kapa 300 million ho latela Setho sa Makhaleng ebe ehlile re tseba hore na re leqetsa ntho e tenya bo bokae ’me moleqetso ona o ea hokae.
Ke bontša hore ’na ke bone re nketsoe holimo haholo ke America le ha b aka theola chelete hobane ene ele holimo haholo empa banna ba etholla empa hore mona moo re teng bane ba sa tsoafe hotla Lesotho ba tlotla etsa sign ha tona kholo ele teng ’me hoa utloahala hore ba lebeletse hore re etse.
Ka hona ke re le ena Omnibus Bill eo moeta-pele oa Ntlo a buileng ka eona ho ntsona le machaba, re ile ra ntšuoa mona le moifo oa litho tse 20 ho lo keteka litaba tsalitokelo tsa mantlha tsa botho ho lebeletsoe hore komisi ea litokelo tsa mantlha tsa botho le eona e kene tšebetsong.

Ke ne ke re litaba li ngata haholo tse lebelletsoeng ka hare ho onimus Bill ’me SADC e ne e romelletse.

Curtesy call eno ke eona empa ntse ke belaela hore e ntse etso re sotha le ba SADC ba ne bale teng.
Ma-America teng re fitisa lintho tse amanang le bona.

Onimus Bill ke ea SADC le Afrika hore Lesotho re batla ho ithuta ka taba ena hoba le botsitso ba Lesotho fela re boetse re li trade blazes litabeng tsa ho etsa li reforms tse ling tse itseng.

Hopolang hore model ona oa rona oa mixed member propotional Tau ea Thaba Setho se Khabane sa mehleng Ntate mosisili one a tloaetse hore ao bitse molleloa.
Ke hobane batho bane bae a mabatoeng fela ba tšabe PR rona re etsa HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 34 PR leha I.E.C e tsamaea e ntse e fosa mona re li kopantse ’moho.

Eleng hore le tsona li reforms tsena hona le lintho tse ling tseo re leng ka pele ho tsona.

Ba bang bare ke naha e nyane ho etsoa li experiment ka rona ka mona ho shejoe hore bomo ena e ka qoma mona Lesotho mona…South Africa le eona ntse ke belaela hore hona le qeta ea lekhotla eo itseng ba etse mixed member.
South Africa etla ka mora rona e leng hore experiment ena ea ho etsa mix system e tsoa mona.

It’s a privilege hore ebe ke ile ka tsamaisa taba eno ka 1998 ’me model ona leha o ntso o luba tjena.

Kannete litaba tsena tse behoang mona re hlile re potlakile.

Le eona Standing Order seno ne se etsoa re le tsietsing re tla re shebuoe ke likotlo qobello hobane re ne be re sa atleha ho fetisa molao oa terrorism.

Joale, United States of America e re e tl’o emisa li-dollar tse tlang mona.
’me Minister of Finance ka nako eno ene ele governor.

Litaba tseno e ne ehlile li emetsoe hore ha se Standing order se neng se etsoa ho le monate sona sena sa hore re late mosebetsi ele ha rona re iphomoletse ka lintho tsa manyesemane tsa khale tsa hore ntho hae oetse e oetse.

Ha hoiloe hoa etsa dissolution mosebetsi ono otla qala fatše Paramente ha eje lefa la engoe.

Ra fumana hore taba ena etla re hlahisa kotsi eaba re pholosa nah aka hore hore ho etsoe Standing Order No.
105(B) hore ebe melao eno e ile ea feta.

Kahona ke lebohile kajeno lena ha ele mona re tseba ho fitisa ena kajeno re potlakile ’me ne kere ntse ke belaela hore le curtasy call eno ea SADC e ntse re bolele hore na matsatsi a makae a ho fitisa Omnibus Bill, e ke ke ea nka nako e telele le eona esa fete hobane ho ntso ho belaeloa hore e seke ea tloha ea re bakela bothata le rona ha resa e etse ka nako le hore re tsebe ho etsa melao e meng hobane nako ha eo.
Boholo ba melao eka fetang lekholo kaofela e mecha e tsoaloa ke eona.

Ha re ntse re lutse holimo melao e mengata eo ho tisoang constitution e tlabe ntse ele the draft bills e tlabe ntse li eme ka hona hare ntša le eona rea photlaka.

Ka hona kea sisinya.

Ke tlatsa moeta-pele oa Ntlo ena eo a seng ae balile e tšeletseng ea li pension e ’meli joale le ena e amanang le compact 2 Ntlo ena e etse hore e khutle motlotlehi a etse sign leha ke tseba hore ‘Me Minister oa litaba tsa molao haeo.
Re bile le bothata bah ore Melao eno ile ea re hae qetoa ho etsoa ha re sobe le procedure e nepahetseng hore na lekhotla ha le identify melao ho etsahalang na hobane le ne le se le kenotsoe cassette le linomoro tsa eona ele hore re nentse re tlameha ho etsa HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 35 amend molao hore qeto ea lekhotla hantle e etsoe cassette e nkoang e phumuloa hobane ho fihlela hona joale ha oa hlaka hantle hore na ena e teng ha eo joale re fitisa ena hape joale.
Ke ’nete e tlabe ele mecha feela ekare re kabe rena le tsamaiso e hlakileng mohlomong under 78 hore na melao ha ile ea etsoa concel ke lekhotla ho etsahalang keng ka nako eo e khutlang eona ena hape.

Taba ena ke sia ele rythorical question eo mohlomong le tafole etla re eletsa hore hotle ho etsahaleng mane haele mona e khutla.

Empa leha hole joalo.

kea tlatsa.

Kea leboha Madam Speaker.

HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Kea leboha Mohlomphehi Rakuane.
Ke mametse hantle hao teka kapa o tlatsa Mohlomphehi Leader of the House.

Joale ke hopola Mohlomphehi mokhethoa oa mehleng oa Tsoelike the former Prime Minister.

Ene kare ha utloa o sebelisa lentsoe Amend ebe o ema ka ntlha ea tsamaiso joale ke utloa ke lokela ho kena lieteng tsa hae molemong oa hore hansard etle e ngole ho nepahetseng le Bahlomphehi batle ba tsitseng hantle puong ena hobane re mametsoe ke sechaba ka ntle ka mane.

HON.
HON.

M. LEHATA: Kea leboha ha ke tl’o bua le haholo ke mpa ke tl’o leboha ho amoheloa le hona bo motinyane re be le lentsoe.

Ke lebohile haholo hore ebe Ntlo e amohetse litaba tsena tsa li amendment tsena tse peli.
Taba engoe hape e kholo eo etlo re hoehlisa ka thata empa re tlameha re utloisise hore ke bophelo ba hona joale ba hore lefatše le fetoha motsana ebile naha ea Lesotho e kene mekhatlo e mengata haholo eo eleng litho ho eona eo otla fumana hore e meng ea melao re etsa hobane re lamellane koana joale ha retla hae re fihla re sebetsa hore e amane le li standing order tseo re li keneng mekhatlong eno kapa mathata a teng a naha ena ea Lesotho ’me ke rata ho leboha hape hore mona moo re teng likhethong tsa 2017 tseo ho fihlela mona moo re teng ho sa kang ho aba le likhathatso kapa bo mokenya lipakeng ke leboha haholo litabeng tseno.
Ke ea leboha.

Question put and agreed to Resolved HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 36 That this Honourable House resolves to reinstate the Bills listed below at the stage they had reached before the dissolution of the 10th Parliament, pursuant to Standing Order No.

105(B): i. Millennium Challenge Account-Lesotho II Authority Bill, 2022. ii.

Millennium Challenge Account Lesotho Authority (Winding up and Repeal) Bill, 2022. iii.
Harmonization of the Rights of Customary widows with Legal Capacity of Married Persons Bill, 2022. iv.

Counter Domestic Violence Bill, 2022. v. The Public officers defined contribution pension Fund (Amendment) Bill, 2022 vi.

Specified Officers Defined Contribution Pension Fund (Amendment) Bill, 2022 HON.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Litho tse Khabane, Members of the Business Committess le tsebisoa hore ho tlaba le phutheho hang ha Ntlo e phomotsoa hona joale.

Kahona le koptjuoa hore lebe karolo.


Honourable Members, we have come to the end of the Business for today and the House is adjourned until tomorrow at 09:00 a.m. ADJOURNMENT There being no further Business upon the Order Paper, Hon.

Madam Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without question put, pursuant to Standing Order No.16 (2).

The House accordingly adjourned at 04:44 p.m. HANSARD: THURSDAY, 08TH DECEMBER, 2022 37