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THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT FRIDAY 11 MARCH 2022 MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 205 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon.

Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP.

DEPUTY SPEAKER Hon.

P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP.

(Tonota) Clerk of the National Assembly Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly Acting Learned Parliamentary Counsel Assistant Clerk (E) His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP.

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP.


(Boteti West) CABINET - President - Vice President - Ms B. N. Dithapo - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe - Advocate L. O. Tlhowe - Mr R. Josiah Hon.

K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP.

(Molepolole South) - Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

K. T. Mmusi, MP.

(Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon.

Dr L. Kwape, MP.

(Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon.

K. K. Autlwetse, MP.


(Specially Elected) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon.

K. S. Gare, MP.

(Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

P. K. Kereng, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism Hon.

Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP.

(Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon.

T.M.

Segokgo, MP.

(Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon.

K. Mzwinila, MP.
K. Mzwinila, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Hon.

T. M. Rakgare, MP.

(Mogoditshane) - Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development Hon.

A. M. Mokgethi, MP.

(Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon.

P. O. Serame, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon.

F. M. M. Molao, MP.

(Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Hon.

Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP.


(Tati East) Hon.

L. M. Moagi, MP.

(Ramotswa) - Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology - Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Security Hon.

M. Kgafela, MP.

(Mochudi West) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

M. R. Shamukuni, MP.

(Chobe) - Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Development Hon.

E. M. Molale, MP.

(Goodhope-Mabule) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Hon.
D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP.

(Gaborone South) - Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

S. N. Modukanele, MP.

(Lerala -Maunatlala) Hon.

T. Monnakgotla, MP.

(Kgalagadi North) Hon.

M. M. Pule, MP.

(Mochudi East) Hon.

M. S. Molebatsi, MP.


(Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

S. Lelatisitswe, MP.

(Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon.

N. W. T. Makwinja, MP.

(Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon.

B. Manake, MP.
B. Manake, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

H. B. Billy, MP.

(Francistown East) Hon.

A. Lesaso, MP.

(Shoshong) - Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency Hon.

L. Kablay, MP.

(Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon.

Dr U. Dow, MP.

Hon.


P. Majaga, MP.

Hon.

M. Balopi, MP.

Hon.

J. S. Brooks, MP.

Hon.

C. Greeff, MP.

Hon.

T. Letsholo, MP.

Hon.

T. F. Leuwe, MP.

Hon.

T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP.

Hon.

Dr T. Matsheka, MP.

Hon.

S. N. Moabi, MP.

Hon.

P. K. Motaosane, MP.

Hon.

O. Regoeng, MP.

Hon.

J. L. Thiite, MP.


Specially Elected Nata-Gweta Gaborone North Kgalagadi South Gaborone Bonnington South Kanye North Takatokwane Gaborone Central Lobatse Tati West Thamaga-Kumakwane Molepolole North Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon.

D. Saleshando, MP.

(Leader of the Opposition) Hon.

M. G. J. Motsamai, MP.


(Opposition Whip) Maun West Ghanzi South Selebi Phikwe West Mahalapye East Sefhare-Ramokgonami Ngami Okavango Maun East Bobonong Selebi Phikwe East Palapye Nkange Mahalapye West Francistown West Hon.

D. L. Keorapetse, MP.

Hon.

Y. Boko, MP.

Hon.

Dr K. Gobotswang, MP.

Hon.

C. K. Hikuama, MP.

Hon.

K. K. Kapinga, MP Hon.

G. Kekgonegile, MP.

Hon.

T. B. Lucas, MP.

Hon.

K. Nkawana, MP.

Hon.

O. Ramogapi, MP.

Hon.

Dr N. Tshabang, MP.

Hon.

D. Tshere, MP.

Hon.


M. I. Moswaane, MP.

Hon.

T. S. Khama, MP.

Hon.

L. Lesedi, MP.

Hon.

B. Mathoothe, MP.

Hon.

M. Reatile, MP.

(Botswana Patriotic Front) Serowe West Serowe South Serowe North Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon.

W. B. Mmolotsi, MP.
Francistown South (Alliance for Progressives) TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT FRIDAY 11TH MARCH, 2022 CONTENTS PAGE (S) MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME.........................................................................................................................1-8 QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE......................................................................................................................9-13 Government to Consider Supplementing North West District Cattle Farmers who Sell their Cattle to Botswana Meat Commission (BMC) Motion (Resumed Debate)..............................................................................................................................14-18 Government to Introduce a Mandatory Corporate Social Responsibility Law (CSR) Motion............................................................................................................................................................19-35 Friday 11th March, 2022 THE ASSEMBLY met at 9:00 a.m. (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) P R A Y E R S * * * * MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order!
Order!

Honourable Members, good morning.

May we start our business of today with Ministers’ Questions.

The first one is Honourable Brooks, Member for Kgalagadi South.
MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM THEME: TOURISM DEVELOPMENT AND PROMOTION Asked the Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism to state: (i) which tourism events are earmarked for the 2022 Tourism Calendar in Botswana; and (ii) whether there are any plans to develop and promote tourism events throughout the country as a way to improve domestic tourism and livelihoods of Batswana by taking advantage of the diverse cultures of Batswana.
MR S. J. BROOKS (KGALAGADI SOUTH): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Good morning sir, good morning Honourable Members.

Mr Speaker, potso ke yone ya ntlha e re e isang kwa go Tona mo mosong o rraetsho, go re bolelela gore mo thulaganyong ya gagwe ya calendar ya events o dirile eng, o di dirile jang?

A supe ka botlalo ka fa di yang go tsamaya ka teng, a bo a re tlhalosetse gore mme maikaelelo a magolo thata mo go tsone, ba ikaelela go ya kae, go gatela pele go le kae e le lephata?
Dilo tse Mr Speaker, re itemogetse gore nako e ke e e siameng ya go direla Batswana botshelo le ditiro.

E dira gore Batswana ka bontsi ba itse botshelo kwa dikgaolong tsa bone tse di farologaneng mme go botlhokwa thata gore re tswelele ka go tlhalosa se a se tshotseng Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, ga ke na dikgang tse dintsi, gongwe re ka neela Tona fela gore a tle a re tlhalosetse gore calendars tsa gagwe di tsamaya jang, Batlotlegi Mapalamente ba tlaa akgela re lebile le dikgaolo tsa bone.
Maikaelelo a go atolosa bo Khawa jaaka re batla go ba atolosa, le gone o ka a tlhalosetsa Batswana ka kakaretso gore o na le toro efe ya go bona Khawa a atologile jaaka ngwaga o o tlang re na le tsholofelo ya gore re batla go ya go dira this 2,000 kilometres (km) race gone koo.

Dakar re batla go e isa gone koo mme e re ba ipaakanyetsa go ya teng, ba bo ba setse ba tswa kwa Khawa.

Ke yone kgang e ke neng ke e beile pele mo mosong o Mr Speaker.

Ka bokhutshwane fela, a Tona a itlhalose Mr Speaker.
MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM (MS KERENG): Tla ke dumedise Ntlo e e tlotlegang mosong wa letsatsi.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Honourable Brooks, ke a leboga ka potso ya gago.

Potso ya gago e maleba.

Mr Speaker, lephata la rona le ntse le itsiwe ka gone go dira dithulaganyo tsa mananeo a ditiragalo tsa itloso bodutu, bojanala, cultural events jalo tse re di tlwaetseng.
Di ne tsa kgorelediwa mo dingwageng tse pedi tse di fetileng ke mogare wa COVID-19, ka go itse gore ditiro tsa go nna jaana di kgobokanya batho mme kanamo ya mogare e nna kwa godimo fa e le gore ga re kgone go ka o laola.

Mo dingwageng tse pedi tse di fetileng, go ne go ntse go le thata mme re ne re leka go tsamaisa lenaneo la Domestic Tourism Drive re sena go nna re tsamaya, re tlhotlhoma le lefatshe.
Re dira mo ke neng ke go bitsa Explore Botswana, go bona gore mafelo a a teng a a anameng le lefatshe, a re ka bona bojanala jo bo ka fetlhiwang kwa go one, ditso, tsa itloso bodutu le metshameko.

Re mo maikaelelong a go atolosa bojanala go tsena mo mekganong e e ntseng jalo.

Le gone gore re atolosetse bojanala mo lefatsheng ka bophara, re ne ra kgona go ya go boa ka kwa Tswapong, Kgalagadi, Bokalaka le mafelo a mangwe.
E rile re ntse re tsweletse jalo, ra bo re ntse re tshwaragane le ba COVID-19 Task Force go re thusa gore tota jaaka fa re setse re tsogelela mo maibing; manokonoko a COVID-19 re le lephata, dilo tse batho ba di nyoretswe tsa go kopana le go tshameka mmogo, go ipelela tsa dingwao tsa bone jaaka re ntse re itse go ne go diragala ka bo Khawa Dune Challenge le bo 1000 Desert Race jalo.
E le gore re simolole go di diragatsa mme re ne ra thusiwa ke bone ba COVID-19 go leka go lekeletsa gore a mme batho ba ka se ke ba kgone go kopanela some events.

Re ne ra dira Gcwihaba Event e le cultural event, re e kopantse le International Museum Day mo ngwageng wa 2020 fa o fela.
Ngwaga o o neng o feta ra 1 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME bo re le kwa Tsodilo re dira fela jalo, re lekeletsa ka fa re ka kgonang go laola kanamo ya mogare wa COVID-19 ka teng, ka fa re rulaganyang ka teng dikampa gore batho ba nne jang, ba tle ba ithulagantse ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
E bile bogolobogolo, re batla gore events tse re simolole go tlhomamisa gore community trusts le benggae ba nna le letseno jaaka e le gore mo Reset Agenda re lebeleletse gore re dire mo gotweng value chains.

Re se ka ra dira event fela batho ba bo ba tswa kwa mafelong a mangwe ba tla go itlosa bodutu kwa bo Khawa, e bo e le gore le batho ba Khawa ba tlaa bona letseno la sennelaruri ka gore ba a bo ba na le seabe se se utlwalang mo teng ga metseletsele eo.
lenaneo (i) Jaanong mo bogompienong go simolola ngwaga o wa 2022 Mr Speaker, re le ba Botswana Tourism Organisation (BTO) re ntshitse la ditiragalo.

Ke tlaa le bitsa jalo e le the calendar of events e e supang gore go tlaabo go diragala eng, kae.

Ke santse ke gatelela gore re fetotse kana re tokafaditse ka fa re tlaabong re dira ka teng gore benggae e le community trusts ba nne le letseno.
Ke bone ba re batlang gore ba batle boroko, ba rekise dijo le go dira dithulaganyo tse dingwe tse e tlaa reng kwa bofelong, ba bo ba sa salela kwa mosing jaaka gompieno re ka lemoga gore di ntse di diragala bo Khawa jalo mme lehuma o kare le santse le tshwenya kwa dikgaolong tseo; to empower yone the community trusts.

Jaanong calendar e ntshitswe mme fa re e dira jaana, re a bo re tshwaragane le batsayakarolo e le beng ba events tse dingwe; tse dingwe ke tsa lephata tse di dirwang ke BTO.
Re a bo re kile ra ntsha public invitation gore ba ba nang le events, ba bangwe ba bo ba setse ba kile ba re tlela ka events gore re batla go dira eng, re batla go kgobokanya batho re dire metshameko e e ntseng jaana le jaana.

Re bo re di lebelela re di tlhotlha, re ya go fitlhelela kwa calendar of events.

(ii) Mr Speaker, ke batla go kopa gore batlotlegi fa e le gore ga ba ise ba bone this calendar of events, gongwe ke re ke tlaa e kopanela le bone kwa group go tswa fa.
O tlaa fitlhela e le gore ditiragalo tsa teng di aname le lefatshe ka bophara kwa bo Kazungula, Tsabong, Shashe, Khawa, Maun, Motokwe le kwa bo Makgadikgadi.

Ke motseletsele fela o o ntseng jalo.

Ke supe gore ga se tsotlhe tse tshosoerweleng e tlaabong e le BTO, tse dingwe ke tsa beng ba tsone, tse BTO e ba thusang.

Re ba thusa jang?

Re ba thusa ka dithulaganyo gore ba itomaganye sentle ka bogakolodi.
Fa re bonang gore go na le boleng jo bo ka tlisang bojanala, re bo re bona gore mme bana ba a iteka, re ka ba thusa ka letseno la madi, re kgone go dira jalo.

Ke kopa gore ka bokhutshwane gore gongwe ke se ka ka ya thata le yone calendar e, ke tlaa e neela batlotlegi.

Ke bo ke supa gore Mr Speaker, maikaelelo a rona re a bo re ntse re kaelwa ke yone the Revised Tourism Policy e Palamente e neng e e fetisa ngogola.
Kana ya re re atolose the products kana dilo tse di ka ngokang bojanala, culture e le mo teng.

Ke sone se o tlaa bonang gore calendar e e supa gore tsa ditso, di tlaabo di ntse di le kwa pele fa re bua ka bo Domboshaba le ditso tse di farologaneng mo mafelong a a tlaabong a diragadiwa ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Se sengwe ke atolosetsa kwa mafelong a mangwe mo lefatsheng la Botswana jaaka ke ne ke supa gore ditiragalo tse dingwe di tlaabo di le kwa mafelong a mantsi kwa dikgaolong ka go farologana.
Golo moo go santse go re supegetsa gore re tshwanetse go tswelela, re nne re ntse re batla mafelo a mangwe re a amogana gore go ka nna eng kwa kae ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Re atolosa bojanala go tswa kwa diphologolong fela, re tsenya tsone tsa ditso, metshameko le arts and crafts Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker, re batla gore re diragatse lenaneo le ka go tshwaragana thata le community trusts ka Lenaneo la rona la Community Based Natural Resources Management (CBNRM), le mo go lone re lebeletseng gore jaaka trusts re re di tseye boikarabelo, di nne kwa pele e bile di anywe maungo a events tse mo go botoka ga sennelaruri, re tlaabo re bona gore re ba thusa ka tsela e re ka nonotshang bokgoni jwa bone.
Kwa Gcwihaba jaaka ke ne ke bua le kwa Tsodilo, re ne ra kgothatsa trusts tsa teng gore bone ba re fa boroko.

Le ya go batla ditante, le batlele mongwe le mongwe even the executive tents.

Le ya go di batla le rugalanya boroko, le bo le rulaganya gore re ya go apeelwa ke bomang, baeng ba tlaabo ba thusiwa ka dijo mme ba apeelwa ke lona mo gae.

Fa e le gore ga le kgone, le tlaa bona gore le ithulaganya ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Mr Speaker, ke a itumela gore ke bege gore events tseo di tsweletse sentle.
Sa ntlha mogare o ne wa laolesega, ga go na sepe se se neng sa nna borai kana diphatsa gore mogare e bo e le gore fa re kgobokane jalo, o aname.
E le gore fa re tswa mo mafelong a mangwe re tla re itlhatlhobile, 2 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME e bile re nna ka mo go tweng cohorts mo dikampeng, re bo re atolosa batho ka dikampa tse di farologaneng gore ba ba tswang kgaolong e e rileng kana ba tswa kwa bodireding jo bo rileng, ba nna mo kampeng e nosi, kwa event e tona go tsena ba bangwe, ba bangwe ga ba tsene, re tsena ka dipalo.
Le mo cultural night, ditlhopha tse di tlaa bong di perform, re diragatsa dithulaganyo tsotlhe tsa COVID-19.

Mr Speaker, ke dumela gore re ne re lekeleditse, re kgonne go bona gore go a kgonagala.

Jaanong fa re lebile calendar e, ke tlaa kopa Batlotlegi gore re itumelele go tsena mo go yone re tle re thuse.

Mr Speaker, gongwe ke eme foo ke utlwe gore Batlotlegi ba tlaa reng.
Se se botlhokwa ke gore re tshwaragane, mme re tlhomamise gore jaaka re batla go dirisa events tse go nonotsha letseno la madi go tlhabolola magae le go fenya lehuma, tota ke gore re di dirise ka tsela e e leng gore re tlaabo re itebagantse le go fenya seemo seo ka go thusana le ba ga rona kwa gae.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR BROOKS: Thank you Mr Speaker, thank you very much Honourable Minister.
Ke botse fela jaana gore, fa o lebile the Kgalagadi Heritage Trail, e e leng gore it is now in black and white, o lemoga e ka lomaganya jang kgaolo ya Kgalagadi, re simolola kwa Bokspits go feta ka Khawa go tla go tsena kwa Central Kalahari Game Reserve (CKGR)?

Motlhala wa yone o lemoga le o tshwaragantse go le kae, e bile le akanya gore e tlaabo e tsene leng mo tirisong e e tseneletseng Minister?
Ya bobedi ke gore, fa re lebile the Heritage Trail, re bo re leba horse races tse di diragalang kwa Motokwe, Kokotsha, tse di yang go diragala le kwa Bokspits very soon re le mo thulaganyong ya tsone, le ya go lomaganya jang gore bajanala ba ba gorogang kwa our parks ba bo ba na le seabe sa gore ba bogele mabelo a a dipitsi a?

Ga ke a utlwa o umaka gore maikaelelo a lona ke eng a The Khuis Nature Reserve.
Le the CBNRM Policy e e yang go laola or guides the trust tse re dumelang gore golo gongwe trusts ga di dire sentle, gore le yone e ya go tsena leng in place ka gore ke yone e e tlaa bong e le tshoso e rweleng fa re bua ka these projects tsa tourism, including the Botswana Tourism Organisation (BTO), tse di tlaa bong di le steered ke BTO.

O lomaganya jang dilo tse ke sa tswang go di botsa tseo Minister?

Thank you very much Mr Speaker.

MS KERENG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Ke potso e ntle thata, re lomaganya jang, kana tomagano e tona e tswa kwa ditogamaanong.

Jaaka fa event e ntse jaana, re a e lebelela re le mmogo re e tshwaraganela, re bo re bona gore e tla ka nako mang, mme e bile re itse gore bajanala ba tlaabo ba ntse ba goroga mo kgaolong.

Fa plan e re ne re e dira, re e tshwaraganetse, re tlaabo re kgona gore sa bobedi re tsene mo marketing.
Marketing o tlaabo o supa gore fa go na le lodge kwa Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park (KTP) ke e fa sekai, a itse gore go na le bajanala ba ba gorogang, mme e bile go na le event ya go nna jaana ka nako ya gore, e bo e le gore fa re rekisa packages tse tsa maroko le tsa bojanala jo re bo tlwaetseng, re bo re kgona go ka tsenya events tse.
Fa re ntse re tsweletse pele, re tlaabo re batla gore events tse ka botsone, e bo e le tsone tse di ngokang bajanala, re sa re bajanala ba setse ba le teng, mme bowang fale le tseneng mo events.

Re tlaabo re re tlauang kwano le tle go tsenelela mo kgaisanong ke e, e bo e le gore bojanala bo atologa ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Ke supe gore go botlhokwa gore fa re lebelela this calendar of events, re bo re kgona go bona gore ka nako e di diragalang ka yone kana ka fa di ntseng ka teng, re ka kgona to market them collectively, kana re di ntshe, re di kopanye.

Gongwe motho e kare a tswa kwa Khuis, a bo a feta ka Motokwe, fa a tswa koo ba ba tswang ba feta ka Trans-Kgalagadi, ba fitlhela go na le event kwa Kgalagadi North ba ise ba tsene kwa Gantsi, gongwe go na le e nngwe, pele ga ba fetela kwa Namibia.
The Trail e supa gore fa o le mo Kgalagadi, go na le letlotlo fale, event fale, boroko bo ka nna fale, go na le ditso fale.

Jaanong kana trail tse fa di simolola di dirwa, di ne di sa tsenngwa kgwebo kana bojanala thata mo teng.
Jaanong re rotloetsa batsaakarolo e le the private sector gore trails tse di saleng di dirwa ke museum tse, ke yone tshono e tona e e leng gore fa o e lebeletse o le mogwebi, o tlaa simolola go dira mo go ka tweng ke packages tse re a tleng re di bone, go bo go ntshiwa packages, bo AT&T Monnakgotla ba ntsha packages, ‘re tlaa le tsaya re le isa kwa le bo le tsena event ya horse racing le lala kwa, maitseboa le kwa le gotsitse molelo, le bolelelana mainane ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.’ Ke batla bokopano jo bo nonofileng jwa the private sector in this.
Khuis National Reserve rra, fa re ntse re dira explore Botswana, re tswa go fitlhela e le gore Khuis kwa Kgalagadi South, ke lefelo le le ntle tota le go ka tsenngwa diphologolo ga dirwa national reserve, mme e bile gape ya nna lefelo la bokopanelo.

Re setse re le atlile gore le tsene mo dithulaganyong tsa dithuso tsa lephata gore re ye to fund koo jaaka re setse re simolotse dithulaganyo tsa gore re ye go tsenya gatehouse, mme go simologe ditirelo tse di farologaneng teng.
3 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME Mo value chain development e re e dirang ya tourism, e re reng bojanala bo atologe bo tsenye dilo tse dingwe, re lebile le dikgang tse di tshwanang le Lobu, gore fa re le kwa Khuis re na le batho ba le koo, phakela kana ka nako nngwe mo leetong la bone ba tsene kwa Lobu ba bone agro-tourism, ba dira agro-tourism ka go bona se se dirwang kwa Lobu ka dihutshane, ba kgone go ya go nna le cultural night go le maitseboa, go bo go nna le dijo tsa setso ka nako e e rileng.
So ke go kgobokanya dilo tse re bo re dira gore di kgatlhise mme gone re bo re tsenye batho mo teng.

Kgang e kgolo ke marketing.

Ke supe gore tsone value chains tse, re tloga re di feleletsa, re tlaabo re tla go bua ka Kgalagadi Heritage Trail, re bo re supa gore tse di tswang mo go yone e le value chain kwa ntleng ga bo Lobu fela jalo e ka nna eng le eng Mr Speaker.

Ke a leboga.

MR KEKGONEGILE: Tanki Mr Speaker.

Nte re dumedise Batlotlegi le setšhaba ka kakaretso.
Tona, re utlwile karabo, mme motho o ka botsa gore kana kwa Bokone Bophirima, bojanala jwa rona bo ntse bo ganeletse thata mo diphologolong, mme teng ditlhwatlhwa tsa lodges di kwa godimo thata, setšhaba kana benggae ba sa kgone go tsena mo go tsone.
Ministry wa gago le BTO ba dira go le kae gore ba kgone go tswakatswakanya bojanala kwa kgaolong ya Bokone Bophirima kana lefatshe ka bophara, re lebile gore dilo tse di tshwanang le Mohembo Bridge Marathon le Mohembo Bridge Fishing Competition, di ka tlisa diversity mo tourism, mo e leng gore motho ga a ele diphologolo fela tse e leng gore di duelwa ka Dollars, le mo go nyennyane ga bo Botswana Pula, motho o ka go ela.

Ministry wa gago o dira go le kae?


Tona, go na le gore fa kgaolo nngwe sengwe se simologile teng, e bo e le gore jaanong se a gasama le lefatshe lotlhe, mo go rayang gore impact ga e nne tona go le kalo mo itsholelong ya lefatshe ka bophara.
Fa re tsaya seemo se se tshwanang sa Maun Horse Race, le bokgakala bo kae, kana le ka dira go le kae le le ministry gore event e kana tiragalo e gole, e tsene mo seemong fela tsa bo Durban July, go itsiwe gore mo lefatsheng la Botswana event e tona ya dipitse ke Maun Horse Race, ke e fa e le sekai.

Ke gore mogopolo o wa Small, Medium and Micro Enterprises (SMME)s mo sengwe le sengweng, ga o berekele lefatshe.
Ga o bone o busetsa lefatshe kwa morago re lebile gore fa e le gore horse races are going to be mushrooming, kana go tlaabo go raya gore sekitinyana se ye fale le fale, ga go nne sepe se se tona se se kalo.

Tlaa ke eme gone foo Tona.

Tanki.

MS KERENG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, ke a leboga Honourable.
Nte ke simolole ka ya bofelo ya gore tota fa re dira, ke tlaa re matoditodi fale le fale, re sa dire gore Maun Horse Race jaaka o kaya ka yone e ka nna an international event e e leng gore re ka e phuthela ditšhabatšhaba.
Ke dumalana le wena monngame, kana fa re bua ka the diversification model, re bo re bua ka transformation le reset, re batla gone jalo gore re godise events tse, jaaka gompieno fa re setse re boela kwa go ya Toyota 1000 Kilometre Race e e leng gore re ne re setse re e tlwaetse, gompieno re e atolositse gore e ye go nna 2,000 race, mme e bile e tsamae mo mafelong a mangwe, e bile re e lomagantse le Dakar Rally.
Jaanong kana fa event e kgona go lomagana le events tsa mafatshe, ke gone mo go dirang gore e gole e bo e ka kgona go ngoka le mafatshe a mangwe.

Ke supe gore go botlhokwa, e bile go maleba gore o bo o botsa potso e e ntseng jalo, gore a ga se nako ya gore re leke go tokafatsa our marketing strategy gore re kgone gore fa re rekisa lefatshe kana events tse re phuthologele kwa ntle.

Kana go raya rona to identify gore horse races re ka di lomaganya le mafatshe ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
Ke dumela gore jaaka re ntse re tsamaya le mafatshe re bua ka go tokafatsa our marketing strategy mabapi le policy e ntšha e, re bo re lebeletse go atolosa activities tsa rona, di se ka tsa nna di ganeletse fela mo gae.

Ke dumalana le wena gore re tshwanetse go atolosa marketing wa rona, re bo re godise events ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Kgang ya gore kwa North West re dira jang go leka go atolosa bojanala gore go nne le letseno go nne le associated activities tse Batswana ba ka kgonang go tsena mo go tsone.

Kana kgaolo e o buang ka yone mongwame, ke kgaolo e e humileng; arts, ditiragatso, botaki le ditso ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Ke ne ke supa kgantele gore ka mananeo a re neng re a dirile a events tsa Tsodilo le Gcwihaba, kana ke teng ka kwa North West ka koo.
The cultural component ya teng kana tsa ditso, e ne e le tsone tse di gatetseng kwa godimo.

Jaanong re tlaabo re lebile gore jaaka re atolosa jalo, bo fishing ba o ba buang ba re batlang go ba dira le kwa Oliphant’s Drift tota, a di tsene di dirwe.

Re setse re bone ka Kazungula Marathon, Batswana ba itumeletse ka fa e leng gore e ne e tsamaya ka teng, e bile le mafatshe a mangwe a le teng.

Ke gone jaaka re ntse re supa kgolo.


E bile go tsamaela kwa North West koo, Mohembo Bridge go batla gore le one jaaka re ntse re supa lesedi le motlhala o ka bo Kazungula Bridge, a 4 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME re yeng Mohembo re ye go dira jalo, re tsenye le tse di farologaneng tse di teng ka koo jaaka o bua ka fishing.

Go batla gore re tshwaraganele tiro e e ntseng jalo, mme ke amogela dikgakololo tse di ntseng jalo.
Ba hotels re bua le bone, ke setse ke kile ka bua le Cresta Hotels gore kana lona le tlaabo le apaya dijo tsa Setswana le bo le tsaya setlhopha se tla at the hotel se tla go kgatlhisa batho ba ba mo hotel.

Go ka nna jang fa le ka dira gore re bereke le batho le trusts ba mo gae, ba dire a cultural village kwa motseng, e bo e re malatsi a a rileng, batho ba ba mo hotel kana baeng ba bajanala, ba bo ba ya go ja dijo ka kwa ntle.
Ba fepiwa ke benggae, ba ya go lebelela mmino wa Setswana, re sa re re biletse dilo tse in hotels.

Ke sone se ke reng fa ke bua ka CBNRM, ke bo ke supa gore re di lebeletse gore a re rotloetseng dilo tse tsa cultural villages tse di tsose, re tle re kgone go di lomaganya le the hospitality industry jaaka re tlaabo re tshwaraganela ditirelo le bone Mr Speaker.

Ke a leboga.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Honourable Minister, kana maloba o ne o le kwa Tswapong o ile go bona mafelo a a kgatlhang, wa kgatlhega fela thata, mme e ne e se wena wa ntlha o tla kwa Tswapong.

O Minister wa boraro o tla kwa Tswapong o dira sone se ba neng ba se dira.

Ke batla go itse gore mme re solofele eng mo go wena gompieno gona le ba ba fetileng.

A mme ga e a re o tsena wa fitlhela dipego tsa bone?

Fa o di fitlhetse, o tsere tshwetso efe?


Ya gago pego e tsamaya fa kae, e re ka solofelang gore o tlaa thusa?

Le tsamaya fa kae mabapi le bokaedi, le dithuto tse le tshwanetseng gore le di tsenye mo go tseneletseng kwa Tswapong?

Sa bobedi, kwa Tswapong matlotlo a rona ke mantswe le Limpopo, noka ya Oodi, ke batla go itse gore le re thusa jang gore re akole noka ya Oodi le le Puso le ministry wa gago Honourable Minister?

Ke a leboga.

MS KERENG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Ee, ke nnete Motlotlegi Gobotswang, ke ne ke ile kwa Tswapong, mme ga ke a go bona, ka gore o ne o seyo, gongwe o ka bo o ne wa thusa, you were not around.

Re tsamaile le kgaolo re bona matlotlo a tlholego, ditso le mafelo a a ka re thusang.

Ke supe gore mo calendar of events, Tswapong Heritage Festival re e tsere re le BTO gore re ya go bereka le trust, re kgone gore re dire event e e manontlhotlho.
Tshwaragana le batho ba gago kwa kgaolong rra le tsene mo teng ga thulaganyo e, o tle o thuse.

Ke supe gore dithaba tseo, re kgonne go bona mafelo a re ka dirang mountain hiking, re bo re e lomaganya le Moremi Gorge kwa go gorogelang bajanala teng.

Re tsenye Malaka, Lerala projects tsa Morula le bomme ba bo Manaledi ba ba dirang dinkgwana, e le value chains tsa kwa Tswapong rra.

Jaanong kana fa o seyo ga re itse gore o tlaa tsena jang mo teng, fa re dira ditiro tse di ntseng jaana.
Mr Speaker, Tswapong o teng mo lenaneong la rona.

Ke a leboga.

DR GOBOTSWANG: O bua ka Tswapong North fela, o tshwanetse o bo o timetse wena.

MS KERENG: …(Inaudible)… itse kwa ke tswang teng, ga o bereke.
MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THEME: STATE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH the Minister of Finance and Economic Asked Development to state: (i) the economic growth between the following years in terms of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in percentile, and monetary value; (a) 1998 to 2008; (b) 2008 to 2018; (c) 2018 to 2021; (ii) total expenditure and net lending in the Government budget during the same years; (iii) balances of Government Investment Account (GIA) at the beginning and end of the periods stated above; (iv) sovereign credit ratings for the stated periods; (v) current balance of Botswana’s foreign reserves.
MR M. REATILE (JWANENG-MABUTSANE): Tla ke go leboge Mr Speaker.

Ke bo ke leboge batlotlegi ba Ntlo ya gago e e boitshepho.

Potso ya me ke ya bobedi Mr Speaker, e e lebaganeng le Tona Mma Serame.

Ke batla gore a re itsise gore jaaka potso e kwadilwe, a mme gone re ya teng.
Re ya teng jang Mr Speaker, ka mabaka a gore re itsege re le lefatshe la middle income economy, mme re na le toro re le lefatshe, e rile fa re tswa mo ditlhophong tse, re boleletse Batswana gore toro ya rona ke gore re fitlhelele high income economy.

5 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME A mme re mo tseleng fa re lebeletse performance ya itsholelo le budgets di ntseng ka teng?

A mme re mo tseleng ya high income economy, gore re tlaa felela re fitlheletse kwa torong ya rona?
Gongwe a tle a atolose karabo ya gagwe Mr Speaker, a re bolelele gore kgang ya gore… re a itse gore nako le nako o bua ka balancing the budget.

Jaanong ke batla gore a re bolelele gore fa a ntse a tsweletse a balance the budget jaana, balancing the economy o tlaa simolola go go tsibogela leng, ka gore re reka mo marekisetsong a le mangwefela.
Fa re sa balance economy Mr Speaker re balance budget, re a bo re bua gore re tlogetse Batswana kwa morago, re lebelela balance sheet ya Puso, gore Motswana o tshela jang fa re sa balance economy, ga go re ame re le lefatshe.

Tla ke se ka ka mo jela nako Mr Speaker, ke mo neele a tle a arabe potso.

ACTING MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (MR SEGOKGO): Mr Speaker, ke a leboga.

Minister o kopile gore ke mo arabele potso, ka gore o mo mosepeleng.
Mr Speaker, potso e ke tlaa e araba jaaka tota e ne e boditswe ke Motlotlegi Reatile.

Ke tlaa simolola kwa go (i), ke re (i) The economic growth between the following years in terms of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in percentile, and monetary value: (a) 1998 - 2008 Mr Speaker, economic growth as measured by GDP in real terms (constant prices), averaged 4.3 per cent over the period 1998 to 2008.

Over the same period, in monetary value, GDP averaged P106.64 billion.
Year 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 Average GDP at Constant Prices (P billion) Percentage change in GDP/Growth Rate 84.58 91.38 95.28 97.52 104.77 110.41 111.96 117.52 124.62 131.83 136.12 106.64 -1.6 8.0 4.3 2.3 7.4 5.4 1.4 5.0 6.0 5.8 3.3 4.3 Source: Statistics Botswana (b) 2008 – 2018 From 2008 to 2018, economic growth averaged 3.0 per cent.

Over the same period, GDP in monetary value averaged P148.

86 billion.
86 billion.

Ke tlaa nankolola dingwenyana gape mo tshimologong ke di tsaya ka ngwaga le ngwaga ke bo ke boa ke ya kwa go average jaaka ke ntse ke tla ke di supa Mr Speaker.
Year 2008 GDP at Constant Prices (P billion) Percentage change in GDP/Growth Rate 136.12 3.3 6 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME 2009 2010 2011 2012 116.87 128.70 137.50 137.26 -14.1 10.1 6.8 -0.2 (c) Mr Speaker, from 2018 to 2020, GDP at constant prices averaged P176.61 billion, representing an average contraction of 0.5 per cent over the three-year period.
Year 2018 2019 2020 Average (ii) (a) 1998 -2008 GDP at Constant Prices (P million) Percentage change in GDP/Growth Rate 178.35 183.76 167.73 176.61 4.2 3.0 -8.7 -0.5 Mr Speaker, from 1997/1998 to 2007/2008 financial year, total expenditure and net lending are as follows: Financial Year Amount (P billion) 1997/1998 1998/1999 1999/2000 2000/2001 2001/2002 2002/2003 2003/2004 2004/2005 2005/2006 2006/2007 2007/2008 Average (b) 2008 – 2018 From 2008/2009 to 2018/2019, total expenditure and net lending averaged P46.93 billion.
Financial Year Amount (P billion) 2008/2009 2009/2010 2010/2011 7.31 8.96 10.32 11.44 13.52 15.70 16.28 17.38 17.63 19.74 24.82 14.83 35.15 39.49 38.42 7 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME Financial Year Amount (P billion) 2011/2012 2012/2013 2013/2014 2014/2015 2015/2016 2016/2017 2017/2018 2018/2019 Average (c) 2018 – 2021 38.67 40.74 41.73 50.56 54.41 56.27 58.39 62.35 46.93 Mr Speaker, between 2018/2019 and 2020/2021 financial years, total expenditure and net lending averaged P64.51 billion.
Financial Year Amount (P billion) 2018/2019 2019/2020 2020/2021 Average 62.35 65.40 65.79 64.51 (iii) Mr Speaker, Government Investment Account (GIA) balance as at 1998 was P18.3 billion, and had reached P30.5 billion as at 2008.

As at 2009, the balance for the GIA amounted to P22 billion and was P24.3 billion by the end of 2018.

Mr Speaker, the GIA balance was P18.3 billion as at 2019 and is currently estimated at P6.1 billion for the period ending 2021 (subject to confirmation by audit).
(iv) Mr Speaker, sovereign credit ratings by the two major credit rating agencies, Moody’s Investor Service and Standard and Poors’ Global Ratings indicate that our country has been generally stable over the period 2008 and 2021.

Ratings prior to 2008 are not available because Botswana requested to join the process in 2008.
Moody’s Standard and Poors L o c a l C u r r e n c y long term/ short term A1 A2 A2 A2 A3 Year 2008 – 2016 2017 - 2018 2019 2020 2021 F o r e i g n long Currency term/short term Local Currency long term/short term Foreign Currency long term/ short term A2 A2 A2 A2 A3 A+/A-1 A-1 A-1 BBB+ BBB+ A/A-1 A-2 A-2 A-2 A-2 (v) Mr Speaker, our current foreign exchange reserves balance is estimated at P56.0 billion as at 2021.
8 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME Date Pula (Billion) USD December 31, 2021 56 I thank you Mr Speaker.

(Billion) 4.8 MR REATILE: Mr Speaker, ke tsaya gore ke ne ke lekile go alela potso mme kana Tona o tshwareletse, jaanong e tlaabo e le go leka go mo thatafaletsa tse a neng a tla a sa di ipaakanyetsa, le ba ba neng ba mo neela information, ba mo katogile.

Mma ke eme gone fa Mr Speaker, ke mo tlotla thata, ga ke batle gore ke complicate dilo.
QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE CRIME AND VIOLENT CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES MR M. BALOPI (GABORONE NORTH): asked the Minister of Defence, Justice and Security whether he is aware that crime and violent criminal activities appear to be on the rise; and further state: (i) what the national crime statistics demonstrate regarding violent crimes in each of the following years: 2020, 2021 and 2022; (ii) what forms of violent crimes are most prominent; (iii) whether illegal firearms are a concern to security organs in view of the fact that gun related crimes seem to be on the rise, and what plans are in place to arrest the situation; (iv) what security organs are doing to improve visibility and their presence around the country and within Gaborone, as a measure to avert crime occurrence; and (v) if he will consider introducing facial recognition capabilities in security cameras so that chances of identifying criminals can be improved.
ACTING MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MORWAENG): Mma ke go leboge Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

(i) Mr Speaker, I am aware that crime and violent criminal activities appear to be on the rise in the country.

The national crime statistics demonstrates that indeed an increase was realised in violent crimes such as murder, rape, defilement, threat to kill and robbery.

The total number of cases for these crimes in 2020 was 5, 823.
In 2021, the cases increased to 6, 599, making a difference of 776 or 13 per cent increase.

The annual statistics for the year 2022 have not yet been compiled or concluded as you are aware that we are only two months from January 2022.

(ii) Mr Speaker, the most prominent forms of violent crimes for these years were rape, defilement and robbery.

(iii) Illegal firearms are indeed a concern to security organs as they are used increasingly in criminal activities such as armed robberies and poaching.
There are comprehensive response plans in place to mitigate the situation.

These include visible patrols, special operations, deployment of officers at borders, stop, questions and search and armed escorts, to name but a few.

These strategies are implemented to also tackle emerging crimes as well as public education and community policing.
(iv) Mr Speaker, the Botswana Police Service continues to have presence on the streets and crime hotspots as a further strategy to improve visibility around the country.

Law enforcement agencies in particular the police and the Botswana Defence Force (BDF) carry out joint patrols or operations.

(v) Mr Speaker, facial recognition is one of the key components of the safer city or security cameras projects which is in Gaborone, Francistown and other places.
The intention is to roll out the safer city project to all major towns in the country.

The project will continue to be improved to enhance detection of criminals.

I thank you Mr Speaker.

MR BALOPI: Supplementary.

Ke a leboga Tona.

Ke lebogela karabo.

Tona, ke ne ke batla go tlhaloganya sengwe.

Jaaka o setse o supile, re tsere dikai fela tsa ngwaga wa 2020 le 2021 mme re bona go nnile le increase ya 13 per cent.
Kagiso, thokgamo, ledula, itshireletso le pabalesego ya babeeletsi tse Botswana a ntseng a itsege ka tsone, e le potso ya ntlha, a ga o bone di ka nna le go tsenwa ke tsebetsebe ka ntata ya tse o setseng o di buile, segolobogolo o bua ka dithubetso le go dirisa dikgoka mo go ba ba sa lekanang go ka dirisetswa dikgoka tsa bong le go kgothosa ka dikgoka?
Ya bobedi ke gore, a ga o bone dikgang tse di tsamaelanang le maranyane maikaelelo a rona e bile e le go tsena mo maranyaneng go a dirisa ka botswapelo, e le nngwe ya dilo tse di ka tlhotlhoetsang dikgoka tse di ka nnang teng?
9 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE Gape ke batla go itse gore tiriso ya ditlhobolo ka re itse e ntse e le batho ba ba boi le ntswa re lemogile maloba gore Motswana jaaka a bua a re “go gangwa e e sesitseng,” ka o bona mo bogompienong tota o kare di ile kwa godimo, maikaelelo ke gore go dirwe jang ka bofefo jo bo rileng?
Tona, maloba ke lemogile fa o ne wa ya go bega o kopane le ba sepodise o bo o ba neela ditaelo ka Motswana a re “go roma go jesa leswe,” ke gone gore o ne wa tsamaya, se o se dirileng se thusitse jang gore ba molao ba kgone go ema tsentsenkwane ba dire gotlhe mo ba ka go kgonang?
Ya bofelo ke ya gore Motswana kana jaaka a bua gore “mogoa dira o a bo a di ikgoela,” a le bona tsibogo ya rona mo go lekeng go tsibogela tshenyetso-setšhaba, sogolo jang go kgothoso ka dikgoka e le sengwe se e leng gore gongwe mo matlhong a setšhaba se tlaa re thusa go ya kwa pele?

Kana Tona o bona go ka dirwa jang gore le ntswa re tshwanetse go tsiboga ka bokete mme gongwe tse dingwe di se ka tsa tloga tsa re tsenya mohoholela, o di bona jang di ntse jalo?

Ke a leboga Tona.
Ke a leboga Tona.

MR MORWAENG: Mma ke go leboge Motlotlegi Rre Balopi.

Selo se Sekgoa le Setswana lona ba le se tlhaloganyang botoka, fa gongwe fa re re tshenyetso- setšhaba, e ka raya se sengwe ka Setswana.

Then fa re e tlhalosa, bosinyi bogolo jang fa re bua ka bone ba dikgothoso, go ka raya se sele.

Fela se ke ka se tlhalosang ke gore security organs mo Pusong ya rona ba malala-a-laotswe.
Se re neng re se bua bošheng ka gore re eliminate bosinyi, kgang ya rona e e tona ke gore re nne re le malala-a-laotswe fa re ronola ka Setswana.

Gore a lepodise lengwe le lengwe, mongwe le mongwe yo o mo law enforcement agencies, a nne a le malala-a-laotswe go bona gore tota se Batswana ba se batlang… tšhaba ya rona e batla gore disinyi, dirukutlhi le bakgothosi ba tswe fa gare ba bone ba ye kwa tota ba tshwanetseng go ya teng kwa ba nnang teng malatsinyana gore setšhaba se tle se bolokesege.
Tota kgang ya teng ke yone eo mme e bile re le ba sepodise, re dumela jalo gore re tshwanetse go ema ka dinao go gaisa dinako tsotlhe.

Ke ka tlhomamisetsa tšhaba gore nnyaa, Batswana ba bolokosegile jaaka potso e le gore a bagwebi, Batswana ba bolokesegile ka ditsabone.

Jaaka ke supa gore ee, dipalo tsa bosinyi di ntse di ya fa godimo jaaka rotlhe re bua mme ke re re malala-a- laotswe, we are doing our best go bona gore batho ba bolokesegile.
E bile ke tlhalosetse le bone bagwebi gore re leka bojotlhe jo re bo kgonang jaaka re ntse re supa go bona gore re oketsa dithulaganyo tse re di dirisang go leka go boloka batho ba ga rona.

Le bone bagwebi ke dumela gore ba lemoga gore sepodise sa rona se a leka.

Re a leka jaaka e le gore fale le fale re ntse re kgona go ba tshwara ba re ba tshwarang, ba bangwe re dira jaaka re ntse re dira re ba isa kwa ba tshwanetseng go ya teng kwa makgotleng.
Tota Batswana ba tshwanetse ba itse gore they are safe, ka re le sepodise re leka go godisa le go oketsa our visibility jaaka ke ne ke supa gore we are doing our best gore re nne visible.

Jaaka motlotlegi o bua ka cyberbullying, ke re yone tota fa o ne o e tsentse mo potsong ya gago, re ka bo re e diretse ditlhotlhomiso tse dintsi, gore re tle re kgone go le fa karabo e e netameng, e e manontlhotlho, e seng re e shankodisa.
Fela se ke ka se supang ke gore, sengwe le sengwe se se nang le criminality mo go sone tota rotlhe ga re senke gore se nne teng.

Ga re senke sepe se se ka re ntshang mo tseleng.

Ga ke itse gore ke lebetse efe mo go tse o di boditseng mongwame.

Ke raya gore ke lekile fa ke lekileng teng.

O ka nkgakolola fa ke lebetse nngwe Motlotlegi Rre Balopi.

MR BALOPI: Through you Mr Speaker.


Ke ne ke buile ka ya ditlhobolo Tona gore, maikaelelo ke go dira jang go leka gore go bonwe gore ditlhobolo tse di mo bathong go se ka fa molaong ba a di amogwa?

A bo go kgona gore go hemiwe gore di tsene mo diatleng tsa batho ba e leng gore ga ba a tshwanela gore ba bo ba na le tsone.
E nngwe ka gore ke setse ke boditse ke ya gore, go lemogilwe mo nakong e khutshwane segolo jang mo constituency e ke e emetseng ya Gaborone North, ka gore go na le dikgwanyana di le dintsinyana, fa batho ba re ba a ikatisa ba a betelelwa, ba a kgothosiwa jalo jalo.

Potso e ne e le gore, a lona ga le bone go le sebaka gore go simolola ka bo 5 a.m. fa go a go ikatiswa mapodise ba simolole go bonala mo mekgwatlheng e batho ba ikatisang mo go yone.
Le fa e ka tswa e se mo Gaborone North fela, gore phakela yoo e bo e le gore ba a tsamayatsamaya go ba babalela.

Dilo tse di botlhoko di diragala beke le beke mo mekgwatlheng e e fa tlase ga ditsela di tshwana le bo A1 le Airport road.

Ke a leboga Tona.

MR MORWAENG: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Rre Balopi.

Se ke ka go se tlhomamisetsang ke gore, every hot spot mo Gaborone e re kgonang to cover it re dira bojotlhe to cover it.
Gone ke tshwanetse gape ke go tlhomamisetse gore dipalo tsa rona tsa sepodise bogolo 10 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE jang fa o bua ka mo mosong, re lebile ka fa toropo e anameng ka teng, jaaka o itse gore fa gongwe sepodise se a bo se le kwa ditseleng, se laola bo traffic, fa gongwe go na le dikgang tsa mofuta one o.

Re a tle re nne le tlhaelo ya gore tota can we cover gongwe le gongwe mo Gaborone.

However, we do our best fa re setseng re lemogile gore fa ke hot spot.
Re leka bojotlhe jo re bo kgonang gore re kgone go bonala teng koo.

Kana jaaka o itse dilalome le dirukutlhi di ntse, e ya gore fa gongwe re lemogile hot spot e re ba lemoga gore we are visible there a bo jaanong ba tsamaela mo site e nngwe.

Ka tsela eo ke re ke go tlhomamisetse gore we do our best.
Ntlha e nngwe e ke ka go e tlhomamisetsang ke gore, re tshwanetse through public education le gore batho ba rona le rona re le tshaba re leke bojotlhe gore gongwe le gongwe kwa gantsi re yang teng re se ka ra tsamaya re le nosi, ke gore fa o ikatisa mo mosong, o taboga mo mosong fa go kgonegang teng re a tle re rotloetse batho ba ga rona gore, nngwe ya ditsela tsa go hema bonokwane jo jwa go tlhaselwa ke batho, fa o le esi go nna bobebe, go nna bonolo gore o tlhaselwe, mme fa le le mmogo dinokwane le dirukutlhi ba nna le poifo.
Ka tsela eo ke sa reye gore ga re na maikarabelo, mme fela re re re kopa gore re thusanye le setšhaba ka gore le bone ba re thuse jang.

Mo go ya ditlhobolo rraetsho ke re, e ya ditlhobolo tse di utlwalang fa di le dintsi mo mekgwatlheng jaaka ke bua ke re, re dira bojotlhe jo re bo dirang, re nna le joint operations, e bile re tlaa dira dithulaganyo dingwe tsa gore re kgone go di ntsha mo mekgwatlheng le kwa di beilweng teng re di ntshe, ka fa re tlaa dirang operation tsa rona ka teng gore re di fokotse.
Of course jaaka ke ntse ke bua, kopo ya rona gape e nngwe ke gore, kana sepodise ga re bereke re le nosi, re bereka le setšhaba mo kopo ya rona e leng gore a setšhaba le sone e re re leka ka fa re lekang ka teng ka gore re le sepodise re tlaabo re dira re le joint fa gongwe le ba bangwe mo operations tsone tseo, mme le setšhaba le sone re se kopa gore fa ba belaela, ba itse kana ba utlwalela, le bone ba re itsise gore re tle re kgone go thusanya, re fokotse ditlhabani tse mo mekgwatlheng.
Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

MR MOSWAANE: Tanki Mr Speaker.

Honourable Minister, Motswana wa maloba o rile, “ka di tshela makgabaneng tsa tla di mphulere.” Re tswa go tshela ba Sesole sa Botswana kwa lefatsheng la Mozambique, mme o kare di tla di re fulere.
Ke bua jaana Tona gore ke tle ke go botse potso ya gore, morago ga gore re dumadume gore re tlaa romela masole a rona kwa Mozambique, go ne ga nna le dikgang tsa ditsuolodi tse di reng, kwa bangwe ba tlaa tswang teng le rona re tlaa fapaana le bone re ya teng.

Ke buisiwa se Tona ke gore, fa o lebelela kwa bo Mozambique le bo Somalia go kgothosiwa dikepe thata.

Jaanong rona ga re na dikepe thata, o kare re batho ba cash e ntsi.
A ga o bone e kete jaanong re setse re na le ditsuolodi mo lefatsheng le fa ke lebelela this type of crime ka fa e lebegang e le organised ka teng?

Mo o kgonang go bolaya 10 letsatsi leno, bosigo 10 e nngwe e bo e ya go thuba.

Fa o re o tshwere 10 e nngwe, 50 e nngwe e ya go thuba.

Ga o belaele fa re setse re na le ditsuolodi tsa mokgwa mongwe mo lefatsheng la rona, mo go tlhokang gore re dire gotlhe?
A mme ga le ise le re mo go ba le ba tshwereng le ba tlhotlhomise gore nnaare ditlhobolo tse tsa di AK47 le tse dingwe ba di tsaya kae?

Ke re Tona o tlhalose gore ba ka tswa ba di tsaya kae?

Mo nakong ya gompieno a ga go na ba ba nang le motswadile o ba supang gore ditlhobolo tse ba di dirisang tse ba tswa kae natso?

A ba ikemetse magodu ka bo bone fela ga se an organised group?

Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.

MR MORWAENG: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente rraetsho, le potso ya ga Rre Moswaane ke a e lebogela.

Rre Moswaane, ke ka go tlhomamisetsa gore borukutlhi jo bontsi jo re bo bonang mo gae jwa ditlhobolo ga se jo ke kareng it can be categorised jaaka jwa botsuolodi.

Ke borukhutlhi jwa go utswa, jwa go tswela dilo tsa batho pelo, e seng jo o ka bo kayang e le jwa botsuolodi jaaka ja kwa Mozambique le mafatshe a mangwe.
Jo ke magodu le magotswana a e leng gore tota sir ke ba madi, ka fa re e lemogileng ka teng.

Ya gore dibetsa tse di kanakana tse ba di tsaya kae, ke ka go tlhomamisetsa gore re a itse gore ba di tshotse dibetsa tseo, mme ke kopa o ntetle gore ke supe gore ba di tshotse, re ntse re a batlisisa gore tota ba di tsaya kae, ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Dipatlisiso di tsweletse motlotlegi, gore re bone kwa di tswang teng tota.
Ke sone se e leng gore ope fela yo re tlaa belaelang gore ditlhabani o na le tsone ga re ka ke ra mo lesa, re tlaa mo sala morago, re bo re ba sala morago gore dibetsa tseo re ye go di tsaya fa re ka kgona, kwa re ka utlwang di le teng.

Le rona le re thuse gore fa le na le meswadile mengwe le re lome tsebe, gore re tle re kgone go ya go di tsaya.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

MR RAMOGAPI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Ke botse Honourable Minister gore, a mme Tona o a lemoga gore go yeng ka dipalo tse o neng o di fa Honourable Balopi fa e sale Tautona Masisi a busa borukutlhi go 11 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE supa gore bo kwa godimo?

A kgang eo o e etse tlhoko?

Fa e le gore o e etse tlhoko rraetsho ka gore dipalo ke tsone di supang, tota wa re lenaneo la gago la go fokotsa borukutlhi ke eng?
Kana ga o tswe o tlhamaletse fela o re raya o re, bagaetsho ke na le lenaneo le le tsepameng gore ke nyeletse borukutlhi, kwa nteng ga gore o tlaa ba fula, o ba bolaya.

Re batla gore o tswe o tlhamaletse fela gore tota lenaneo la gago ke eng Honourable Minister?
Potso e nngwe Honourable Minister, ke ntse ke latisetsa potso ya ga Rre Balopi ya ditlhobolo, can you confirm or deny Honourable Minister the current reports tse di supang gore gatwe monnawe Ramapodise mongwe wa sephiri wa Directorate on Intelligence and Security (DIS), o tshwere ka ditlhobolo tse di illegal ntlheng ya Jwaneng?

E rile fa mapodise a mo tshwere, go bo go raya gore tlogelang motho yoo.
Rraetsho, mogolowe a re tlhalosetsa Batswana dipotso tse ka gore di botlhokwa fela thata, o ganele kana o rurifatse magatwe a Mr Speaker.

Kgang e nngwe ya cybercrime kana cyber bullying; Tona, a ko o tlhalosetse Batswana rraetsho gore tota wa re o nna lefatshe kae?

O tlhalose gore wa re o emela potso pele, ke gone o bo o ka tla wa baakanya?
Kana dikgang tsa cyberbullying rraetsho, fa o bona e re tshwentse jaana ke gore mongwe le mongwe o a itse gore go na le batho ba ba dirisang pseudo accounts mme maina one a a sephiri a a sa itsegeng, ba tlhasela batho, ba a ba roga.

Go begilwe Tona, ke gore ke batla gore ke go botse gore a ga o itse gore dikgang tse di setse di begilwe?

Fa e le gore di begilwe, la re le tsaya kgato efe mo bathong ba ba kgokgontshang batho ka Facebook rraetsho?
Le mo Pusong ya gago ya goora Domkrag, go begilwe gatwe motho ke yo o a re kgokgontsha, mme le dipa fela.

Go utlwala fa e le gore jaanong o kare go kgokgontsha yone DIS.

A ko o re tlhalosetse ka dikgang tse rraetsho.

Ke a leboga.

MR MORWAENG: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke lebogele Rre Ramogapi ka potso ya gagwe.


Rre Ramogapi, ke go tlhomamisetse gore mabapi le crime rate gore o e amanye le Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tautona Masisi gore e sale a tsena mo setilong, e ile kwa godimo.

Ke go tlhagise Rre Ramogapi gore fa re bua ka dikgang tsa crime, nna le wena re le baeteledipele re tshwanetse re tlhoafale rraetsho ka gore re bua ka matshelo a batho le dithoto tsa bone.
We should not politicise dikgang tsa crime because once re dira phoso eo Rre Ramogapi, re tlaabo nna le wena re latlhegelwa ke go tshwaraganela go tlhabantsha botlhokotsebe le bosinyi jo go tswa mo tseleng.

Kopo ya me fela ke ne ke re ke kope jalo mme ke bo ke go tlhomamisetse gore ga go a nna jaaka o bua.
Bosinyi jo ka gore potso ya gago ya re e sale Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tautona Masisi a tsena bo ile kwa godimo, you are insinuating gore gongwe ke kgang ya go tlhoka maikarabelo on the part of the Government.

Ke go tlhomamisetse jaaka ke ne ke bua kwa tshimologong ke re we are doing our best, re lwantsha bosinyi ka fa re kgonang ka teng le ditsela tsa borukutlhi.
E bile re tsweletse jaaka ke ne ke supa gore mo mafelong a mangwe jaaka kwa bo Francistown le Gaborone, re leka go baya tse di ka kgonang go re thusa go lwantsha bosinyi.

Re dira public education go lwantsha borukutlhi, re dira ditsela tse tsotlhe.

So far ke tsaya gore ba rona ba sepodise ba dira ka fa ba dirang ka teng, re tlhoka thotloetso ya lona Rre Ramogapi gore re lwantshe bosinyi.
So ga se nnete gore bosinyi kante borukutlhi jo o bo o ka bo gologanya jalo le Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tautona since a tsaya setilo.

Fa o ka leba statistics go ya kwa go 10 years back go tla mo gompienong, o tlaa lemoga gore dipalopalo di ntse jang.

Ke go tlhomamisetse gore Botswana is a safe country compared to other countries.
Ke sone se re neng re re go simolola maloba fa go laelwa ba sepodise le other security organs gore re ye go ema ka dinao go gaisa, re rotloediwa gore mme jaanong a re emeng ka dinao go bo lwantsha go gaisa dinako tsotlhe.

So we are doing something.

Mabapi le gore ke rurifatse gore mongwe yo o amanang le mang o rile.

Kana o bua kgang e o ntseng o e bua Rre Ramogapi ya cyberbullying.

O bua ka dikgang tsone tsa Facebook ka gore gone moo, ke mo nna le wena re reng ke cyberbullying.
Ke gore fela ka gore mongwe o tsentse eng mo Facebook page, yo mongwe o rile, yo mongwe o rile, ke yone bullying eo.

Jaanong bullying eo Rre Ramogapi, nna le wena wa re re go reng fa batho ba kgona go kwala mo di Facebook, ba bo ba bua jalo jaaka o bua gompieno mo Palamenteng?

On the basis of what you saw mo Facebook page ya mongwe a anamisa se e seng nnete a re mongwe yo o amanang le mongwe mo sepodiseng, gone moo kana ke yone cyberbullying.
Sepodise is being bullied by so doing, gape e nna magatwe a a tladikang ba malwapa bangwe, kante bangwe ba ba mo sepodiseng.

Jaanong ka tsela 12 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE eo, seemo sone se rra re itse gore batho ba bega ba le bantsi ka tsela tse di farologanyeng, ka dikgang tse di tshwanang le go selwa ga marumo, go selwa ga eng.

There are a lot of reports tse re di tsayang, re di bona di farologanye.
Eo ya gore mongwe yo o amanang le mongwe yo o mo sepodiseng, ke dumela gore ke yone cyberbullying sir.

Ke dumela gore Rre Ramogapi, rotlhe re a itse ba re fa gore go teng go na le batho ba ba dirisang Facebook ka tsela e e sa lolamang, ba senyaka maina a batho.

Re tshela re bona batho ba senya Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tautona leina, re tshela re bona ba mo kwala mo Facebook ...(Interruptions)… ba tlhalosa dilo tse dintsi tse di farologanyeng.

Gone moo ke cyber bullying.


Rraetsho, molao o teng o o lwantshang kgang ya cyberbullying.

Se ke ka se rotloetsang bagaetsho ke gore fa o na le mongwe yo o itseng gore you are being bullied, ba sepodise ba teng, re kopa gore o ye go bega kgang ya gago kwa go bone.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Procedure Honourable Ramogapi.

MR RAMOGAPI: Point of procedure.

Motlotlegi Tona o leka go nkaraba mme ke belaela a sa utlwa sentle.
Ka bokhutshwane ke ne ke re a tlhomamise kana a ganetse magatwe a. Jaanong fa a sena go nna a tlhomamisa, o kare nnyaa ke a tlhomamisa kana ke a ganetsa, ke gone a bo a ka re golo mo ke cyberbullying e re buang ka yone.

Maikaelelo a rona ke gore a tlhatswe Goromente leina.

Ke yone kgang fela e re neng re e kopa Honourable Minister.
MR MORWAENG: Jaaka ke ne ke supa ke re kana Motlotlegi Rre Ramogapi o ne a re ke tlhomamise kante ke ganetse magatwe, mme magatwe a a buang a sa tlhalose gore a ke a gagwe kante o a tsaya kae.

Ke bo ke tsaya gore magatwe a, o a tsaya mo go sone se a se buang sa cyberbullying.

Jaanong ke bo ke re se re nang le sone gone jaana re le ba sepodise, se ke ka se buang ke se gakologelwa ka bofefo ke gore re na le report, re fitlhetse marumo kwa Kgaolong ya Jwaneng.
Jaanong gore ke bomang ba ba mo teng and so on and so forth, jaaka ke ne ke bua, reports tseo di dintsi Rre Ramogapi tse di amang Batswana bangwe ba ba farologanyeng.

Jaanong tota ya gore ke rurifatse magatwe kante ke a ganetse, nnyaa Rre Ramogapi nna le wena re badiramelao, re Mapalamente mo Ntlong e, re na le maikarabelo.

Tota magatwe ga ke dumalane le kgang ya gore o bo o tla go a mpotsa mo Palamenteng tsala ya me.

Ke na le maikarabelo Rre Ramogapi ke le Goromente.


Ya cybercrime, kopo ya me ke gore yo o dumelang gore he is being bullied, ga re rate ope a kgokgontshiwa.

Go na le ba sepodise, le tlise dikgang tsa lona ka gore re a lemoga, re a itse gore the reason why re na le molao o o lwantshang bullying each other, re batla batho ba rona botlhe ba sireletsega.

Go and report kwa mapodiseng, re itse gore re ka go thusa jang re le ba sepodise.

Ke sone se re se kopang mo bathong ba garona.


MR SPEAKER: Last supplementary, Honourable Tshere.

MR TSHERE: Thank you very much Honourable Speaker.

Ke botse Tona gore, kana Molaomotheo wa lefatshe la Botswana, o fa Motswana mongwe le mongwe thata le nonofo ya go ka itshireletsa, bogolo jang fa e leng gore mapodise a lebega a sa kgone, e bile o letlelela le go ka dirisa force fa o le mo itshireletsong ya gago.
Jaanong potso yame ke gore, lona kwa lephateng, le ya go sekaseka molao leng o o dirang gore Motswana a kgone go nna le tlhobolo go tswa mo raffle gore go ikopelwe (apply) fela, Motswana a ikopele a sekasekiwe ka bo ene a le nosi, gore a o a letlelelwa go ka nna le tlhobolo?

Sa bobedi, le ya go letlelela leng gape gore jaanong go letlelelwe ditlhobolo e seng fela tse di fulang dikgaka; ditlhobolo tsa pistol, 9 MM, magnum, le revolvers?
Le ya go letlelela leng gore Batswana ba nne le tsone ka gore Molaomotheo o ba fa dithata tsa gore ba itshireletse, whatever means fa a le mo diphatseng, ene le ba lelwapa la gagwe le dithoto tsa gagwe?

Ke a leboga.

MR MORWAENG: Tlaa ke go leboge Motlotlegi Rre Tshere ka potso ya gago.
Jaaka o itse Motlotlegi Rre Tshere, mo nakong ya gompieno go na le melawana e e amanang le tiriso ya dibetsa kana ya ditlhobolo, mme jaaka o bua, molao o a go letla o le Motswana gore o ka sireletsa se e leng sa gago or property ya gago, botshelo jwa gago fa property ya gago e le mo diphatseng.

Le wena ka sebelebele fa o le mo diphatseng, molao o a go letla go o ka itshireletsa, mme jaanong o buile puo e tona ya gore gone mme jaanong mabapi le gore batho ba ka nna armed e le Batswana, go tla leng.
Ke re as we speak Rre Tshere, molao le tsamaiso di ntse jaaka di ntse, mme ke re kana re le Mapalamente e le rona ba re dirang melao, ke lona ba e leng gore fa le bona go siame jalo Sir, le ka tla ka kgang eo gore nnyaa, jaanong a mongwe le mongwe yo o kgonang gore o ka neelwa tlhobolo, a e neelwe, but ga ke dumele gore a tseo di tlaabo di dirwa go sa lebiwa ditsetlana tsotlhe tsa security.
All I am saying ke gore generally, Puso e 13 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE kgatlhanong le go anama ga dibetsa mo motseng kana mo lefatsheng.

Re kgatlhanong le gore dibetsa di bo di le gongwe le gongwe mo lefatsheng la rona la Botswana.
Tota keletso ya rona ke gore ba e leng gore they have been trained, kana ba ba rutuntshitsweng go dirisa tsone dilo tse, e bong ba sepodise, ba ba re sireletsang, e nne bone for now ba ba kgonang go ka tshola ditlhobolo tseo ba re sireleditse ka tsela e e rileng.

For now, re re ne re ise re nne le dikakanyo tseo Rre Tshere, mme ke go utlwule morwaarre.

mongwe.

E rile fa a tsena mo botoneng jwa Temothuo Honourable Dikoloti, o ne a ya Maun, Gumare, Shakawe a ya go bua le barui a ba solofetsa jalo.
Three years down the line o santse a ntse a bua fela jalo.

Ke puo e e tshwanang fela le ya Meat Regulator e e buiwang malatsi otlhe gore re jewa ntsoma, ga re boelwe ka ntata ya jewa ka leleme o kare re madila.

Gone moo fela ka bo gone ga go re fe tsholofelo.

Mr Speaker, Honourable Dikoloti… MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Members.

Let us move on to Motions.

HONOURABLE Honourable Kekgonegile.


MEMBER: Clarification, GOVERNMENT TO CONSIDER SUPPLEMENTING NORTH WEST DISTRICT CATTLE FARMERS WHO SELL THEIR CATTLE TO BOTSWANA MEAT COMMISSION (BMC) Motion (Resumed Debate) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the debate before you is resuming, when the House adjourned last Friday the 4th March, Honourable Tshere had just concluded his debate, and I was just about to call upon the mover of the Motion to respond to the debate.
May I therefore, call upon Honourable Kekgonegile to respond to the debate.

MR KEKGONEGILE (MAUN EAST): Tanki Mr Speaker.

Tlaa ke leboge Batlotlegi go bo ba akgetse mo Motion o, bontsi jwa bone ke ba ba reng o fete, e nne tshwetso ya Palamente, palo e nnyennyane e ne ya re nnyaa, fa e ne e le gore yone Palamente ya rona ke e e tsamaisiwang ka Puso ya batho ka batho, re ka bo re re nnyaa mme Palamente e utlwetse batho ba Bokone Bophirima botlhoko, mme e fetisitse Motion gore ba kgone go nna le botshelo.
Ka re itse ditsamaiso tsa Palamente, re tlaa goroga koo.

Mr Speaker, Honourable Dikoloti a ne a emetse Tona wa Temothuo, o ne a nna ene wa ntlha go araba, mme mo go arabeng ga gagwe, o ne a bua se se tlholang se buiwa ngwaga le ngwaga.

O ne a ntsha ditsholofetso tse di tlholang di solofetswa batho ba Bokone Bophirima ngwaga le ngwaga.
O ne a bua ka gone gore ba ikaelela gore go tle lenaneo la gore jaanong go se ka ga rekisiwa dikgomo tse di tona, go rekisiwe tse di nyennyane; weaner production in North West.

Ke puo e re tlholang re e utlwa ngwaga le ngwaga ka Minister mongwe le MR KEKGONEGILE: O ne o gana go re fa clarification fa maabane go fitlhelela o fetsa, tlaa re tswelele.

Honourable Dikoloti o ne a bua ka BMC gore price e okeditswe mme ke P28 per kg gompieno.
Boammaaruri ke jone joo ee, ba ne ba oketsa ka matsananyana one ao, mme kana re tshwanelwa ke go lemoga gore yone P28 per kg yo o gana go wela gore e nne wa sennelaruri ka gore fa gongwe go ete go okediwe, mme go boelwe kwa morago, morago ga lebaka le le rileng.

Fa gongwe gantsinyana fa o tla bo mariga, go boelwa kwa morago gotwe dikgomo jaanong di tsentse weight.

Fa go tualo, go tewa gotwe jaanong ga re batle gore le ka akola thata ka gore dikgomo di tsentse weight.
Fa e ne e le gore ke wa sennelaruri, re ne re ka re nnyaa, mme go raya gore re agela fa godimo ga moo go ya kwa pele, mme fa e le temporary, go raya gore go ka nna ga boelwa kwa morago nako nngwe le nngwe.
Go builwe thata ka value chain ya gore naare rona mme kwa Bokone Bophirima, kgomo fela kana leruo mo value chain e ya gore go ka rekisiwa nama, ga dirwa madirelo a letlalo le tse dingwe go tswa fela mo by-products tsa kgomo, re na le eng se e leng gore Goromente o se lebile gore o ka se dira kwa Bokone Bophirima ka by-products tsa dikgomo.
Honourable Manake pele fa a tswa a ya kwa ministry o mongwe, o ne a setse a kaile gore nnyaa, ga go na sepe kwa Bokone Bophirima se se setseng se akantswe mo bogompienong.

Ke one mabaka a matona a re tlang ka Motion o gore kana batho ba ba ruileng kwa Bokone Bophirima ga ba boelwe ke thuo ya bone, mme leruo le a swa.

Thuo kana keletso ya go rua e a swa jaaka Honourable Thiite a ne a fa sekai sa dikgomo gore palo ya tsone e dule from 3 million to 1.5 million mo bogompienong.
Gone moo fela ka bo gon,e go raya gore the industry is declining very fast, mme kana fa e swa, e bua ka matshelo a batho.
Dikgomo kana thuo ya 14 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO CONSIDER SUPPLEMENTING NORTH WEST DISTRICT CATTLE FARMERS WHO SELL THEIR CATTLE TO BOTSWANA MEAT COMMISSION (BMC) Motion (Resumed Debate) kgomo is an indigenous means of livelihoods ya rona e e leng gore ga e tlhoke gore ke e ele sekoleng, kana mang a ye go batla eng se se ntsi, se se tlhokafalang fela ke gore o tsweledise thuo ya batsadi ba gago, e bo botshelo bo tswelela bo nna teng.
Honourable Brooks o ne a bua ka gore kana dikgomo ke kgwebo, therefore fa o tsena mo kgwebong e o tshwanelwa ke gore o bo o ikiteile sehuba e bile o na le bokgoni jwa go tsena mo kgwebong e. O ne a fa sekai ka fa BMC ya Lobatse e neng e thusa barui ka kwano le ka kwa go bone ka teng.

Ke ne ka rata fa Honourable Motaosane a mmotsa gore, gone mme o akanya gore kwa Bokone Bophirima ba ka ba direla eng e le BMC?
Go raya gore Honourable Brooks o ne a lemoga gore dikgwetlho tse di kwa Bokone Bophirima, ke tse di fa godimo ga dikgwetlho tse a nang le tsone, e le morui kana ba ba ka kwano e le barui.

Mo go rayang gore se se neng se ka dirwa ka kwano se ka dirwa ka kwa, mme ka ntata ya dikgwetlho tse di leng teng fa godimo ga seo, ga se ka ke sa dirwa.

Mo go rayang gore gore kgaolo e e ka kwa e ka fetoga go tswa red zone go nna green zone, go tswa fela mo go reng ke mang yo o lebileng red zone le green zone.
Fa e le gore ke Eurocentric definitions tsa Makgoa, tsa gore ba eletsa gore ba ka reka fa go ntseng jang, Kgaolo ya Bokone Bophirima will always be a red zone ka ntata ya dinare tse dintsintsi tse di kwa.

Mo go rayang gore go tshwantshanya morui wa Bokone Bophirima le morui mongwe le mongwe mo lefatsheng, e a bo e se tshwantshanyo e e siameng, ka gore dikgwetlho tse di kwa ga se tse di gongwe le gongwe.

Ke sone se re tlang ka Motion o re re... MR KEORAPETSE: Clarification.
Mokaulengwe, o akanya gore leuba le le kanakana la go tlhaloganya Tshutiso ya gago gore e bua ka targeted subsidies tsa Kgaolo ya Bokone Bophirima, o bona o kare le bakwa ke eng?

Ke raya o lebeletse mafoko a a neng a buiwa ke mongwe wa bo Tona a bua gore, kana ga se gore Goromente ga gona se a se dirang, they are keeping BMC ya kwa Maun mme e dira loss, o tsenya P20 million, o kenta mahala le gore tota fa e le gore Goromente o a simolola o a go felela kae mo go thuseng batho ba Kgaolo ya Bokone Bophirima?
A o bona mafoko a e le a a siameng, re lebeletse lekgetho le le kanakana le madi a a tsenang mo bojanaleng jwa kwa Bokone Bophirima, mme bo sa busetse batho ba koo?

Re lebeletse lekgetho le le kanakana la Value Added Tax (VAT), le le tsenang kwa Bokone Bophirima le levies tse di tswelelang di tsewa mo baruing ba Bokone Bophirima le ntswa kgomo e sa ba busetse.

Levy ya 4 per cent kana lekgetho la 4 per cent le nna le ntse le tsewa fela mo go bone.
A o bona mafoko a a bo Tona, e le a batho ba ba nang le boikarabelo?

Le gore e re Mothusa Tautona a bua, a bo a botsa gore a Puso e ka kgona, a ntse a itse gore Puso e senya madi a a kana ka 37 per cent wa Development Budget kana P5 Billion ngwaga mongwe le mongwe, go ntse go rekiwa lodges tsa bo P58 Million.

A o bona mafoko a e le a a siameng, a tswa ka baeteledipele wena o kopa gore barui ba Bokone Bophirima ba thusiwe?

MR KEKGONEGILE: Tanki Honourable Dithapelo.


Ga se mafoko a a siameng gotlhelele, ke mafoko a a supang tlhoko lerato mo bathong ba Bokone Bophirima, a supa Goromente yo o latlhelelang batho ba gagwe.

Kana e bile fa o bua ka gore bojanala jwa Bokone Bophirima bo tlisa bokae mo sepatšheng sa lefatshe, ke the second after diteemane go tlisa madi mo teng ga lefatshe, fa re beetse dikgang tsa makgetho kwa thoko.
Se rona kwa Bokone Bophirima re se bonang from the 30 per cent or so, yo bojanala jwa Bokone Bophirima bo mo tsenyang (contributing) to the Gross Domestic Product (GDP), re bona only 0.3 per cent e e leng ya the total budget e e yang kwa Bokone Bophirima fa re lebile ka fa agriculture kana borui bo tsamayang ka teng.
Re tshwanelwa ke go lemoga gore, balemi-barui ke batho ba tourism e ba beileng ka fa mosing, e bile ke bone ba ba ka bong ba akola gore tourism should supplement ka fa ba tsamaisang matshelo a bone ka teng.

Seo ga se ka ke sa diragala ka gore Palamente e is all about gore mogopolo o tla ka mang.

It is all about gore re a busa, ga re ka ke ra tsaya megopolo mo go ope, ke rona fela ba re ka tswang ka megopolo.

Seo fela ke sone se se diileng go tlhabololwa ga lefatshe.
Ke bona bona Honourable Motaosane a tshikinya tlhogo, ke wena, John Thiite gongwe le ba bangwe ba le babedi ba le bararo ba ba kgonang gore nnyaa moo gone ba a bo ba sa go lebe, but majority of you ba lebile gone moo.

Ke boammaaruri jo bo sa jelweng pheko Honourable Motaosane.

MR LUCAS: Elucidation.


Honourable Kekgonegile, go na le ba ba neng ba akgela on this Motion o ba tswa kwa phathing e e busang ba supa gore temothuo mo lefatsheng ka bophara, o ka bua ka America kana Europe, it survives through being subsidised kgotsa go thusa go neneketsa le go tlhomamisa gore e ema ka dinao.

Fa ba sena go bua jalo, ba bo ba tswelela ba re nnyaa mme bone ga ba dumalane le supplementation e o e buang kwa North West.
Batho ba ba ka tswa ba dirwa 15 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO CONSIDER SUPPLEMENTING NORTH WEST DISTRICT CATTLE FARMERS WHO SELL THEIR CATTLE TO BOTSWANA MEAT COMMISSION (BMC) Motion (Resumed Debate) ke eng gore, on the one hand ba bua gore tota temothuo lefatshe lotlhe ka bophara e seng mo Africa fela, it is subsidised, ba a dumalana mme ba gana Motion, golo moo go dirwa ke eng?

MR KEKGONEGILE: Tanki Honourable Lucas.


Ke ne ke rata thata gore gongwe Honourable Leuwe o ka e araba e, gore naare ke eng le dumalana mme le sa dumalane.

Ke a bona gore fa ke re kana bontsi jwa lona le lebile partisan, ga o dumalane.

Mme ke fa mabaka ke a, go a buiwa gore nnyaa re a dumela go tshwanelwa ke to be supplemented, but we do not want the supplementation kwa North West.

Ke eng fela se se dirang gore le rialo?

A fa re re le lebile sephathi, a ga re bue boammaaruri?
Ga le a leba batho gore ba ka tshela botoka ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Gompieno ke North West, kamoso e tlaabo e le kgaolo e nngwe, re tlaabo re ba farologanya jang.

Batho ba Bokone Bophirima ba tlaa le leba le le batho ba ba ntseng jang, ba tlaa leba Palamente jang, gore fa go tla kwa kgaolong e nngwe diemo tse di tshwanang le tsa bone go bo gotwe ee, go siame kgaolo e e ka thusiwa, mme fa go tla kwa Bokone Bophirima diemo tsa bone tse di unique to bone ba bo ba sa thusiwe.
Tota ba tlaa re leba re le Palamente e e ntseng jang, e ba neng ba na le tsholofelo e e kana mo go yone re lebile dikgwetlho tsa bone.

Honourable Billy le Honourable Moatlhodi ba ne ba akgela, mme tota ba ne ba le kgakala le setlhogo.

Honourable Billy e bile ene go raya gore when I was presenting o ne a sa reetsa ka le gore Motion o tla ka mang o ne a sa itse gore o tla ka mang, ga se e e ka akgelwang thata.
Ke dikgang tse re di buang tse gore, fa gongwe it is just to mark yourself present mo Palamenteng, o dule mo kgannyeng totally le gore batho ba ka thusiwa ka seemo se se ntseng jang.

Honourable Dr Dikoloti o buile ka market wa Mozambique o o batlang weaners, mme ke selo se a tlholang a se bua malatsi otlhe se a tswang kgakala ka sone.

Fa e le gore o tlhoka weaners, fa di le teng mo Bokone Bophirima, a go ka tsaya dingwaga tse tharo gore e bo market o o batho ba Bokone Bophirima ba a o akola.
E bile ga gona any milestones tse di kileng tsa nna teng, ka gore Honourable Manake was here to say no, ga gona sepe kwa North West.

MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (DR DIKOLOTI): Ke kopa tlhaloso.

Thank you very much, through you Mr Speaker.


Motlotlegi o e tshwere sentle ka fa o e buang ka teng, mme ke ne ke re a ga o lemoge go le matshwanedi gore nna le wena re tshwaraganele thulaganyo e ya gore re rotloetse barui ba kwa North West gore ba tlhaloganye gore go botlhokwa gore ba rekise dikgomo tsa bone di santse di le nana.
Ga se kgang ya ga Dr Dikoloti, Gare kana Manake, ke kgang ya gore re tshwaragane nna le wena gore re kgone go rutuntsha barui gore ba dire se se tlaa kgonang go ba tlisetsa dipoelo tse di maleba.

MR KEKGONEGILE: Honourable Minister, tshwaragano eo re sale re e dirile ka 2019 ra ba ra dumalana.

Se se setseng gompieno ke gore, Puso ya gago e tsenye ditsamaiso tseo mo tsamaisong.

Veterinary e a dumalana gore a go nne jalo.

BMC ya re ga e ka ke ya kgona go reka dikgomo tse di ntseng jalo.
They all fall within your ministry.

Selo seo se supa gore o re ja leleme jaaka madila.

MR leboga HIKUAMA: Clarification.

Ke a Honourable Kekgonegile.

Nnyaa mme o e tshwere sentle thata.

Ga se kgang ya mafoko, ke gore Domkrag e rata gore mafoko ke tiro.

Fa re rekisa dikgomo tse di nnye, ga go reye gore di rekwa di le di nnye.

Se se ka dirang gore dikgomo di rekwe di le di nnye, ke fa go na le market o o rekang tse di nnye.

Ga ba seyo, le fa o ka bua jang, di ka rekwa ke mang?
I think those are the fundamentals that we should address.

Have you provided the market for that?

Is there a market that can absorb zero tooth, tse di nnyennyane kwa North West?

Fa o seyo, ga go na ka fa di ka rekwang ka teng.

Le fa Minister a ka tlhola a bua mo television, a kuela kwa godimo mo go kalokalo, it cannot happen until we create the environment for that.

Ke a leboga.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke kopa tlhaloso foo motlotlegi.
MR KEKGONEGILE: Ga re na nako e tsamaile Dikoloti, o filwe chance ga o a tlhalosa.

O tlaa tla o dira statement.

Go setse nako e e kae Mr Speaker, to wind up?

MR SPEAKER: Three and a half minutes.

MR KEKGONEGILE: Tanki Mr Speaker.

Honourable Thiite addressed kgang e ka bokgabane.

O e buile sentle jaaka e ntse.

Tsholofelo ke gore o tlaa tlhopha le Motion o. Honourable Molao o ne a bua gore temothuo have to survive through subsidies.

A bua gore Goromente spend P31 million kwa Bokone Bophirima.
P31 million compared to P5 billion yo a mmonang ka tourism on 16 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO CONSIDER SUPPLEMENTING NORTH WEST DISTRICT CATTLE FARMERS WHO SELL THEIR CATTLE TO BOTSWANA MEAT COMMISSION (BMC) Motion (Resumed Debate) annual basis kwa Bophirima.

The price ya rona ya kgomo ke P4500.

Bonang tlhe pharologanyo e e kanakana e. Fa gongwe fa o re o a kgala, o a bo o ema nokeng.

O o fa mabaka a a supang gore you are supporting tota.
O bua ka Kgomo-kgwana mme e tshwana le Meat Regulator le eng.

Fa gotwe a le dira sengwe ka Kgomo-kgwana, ba re, re tsweletse re a kuba, nnyaa.

Kwarantine ke terata, masaka, metsi, ditsela tse di ka gorogang mo go yone.

A dilo tse di a dirwa go bona gore go tsosoloswa kwarantini?

Bojang jo bo mo teng o bo kgaolela eng ka ke jone jo bo tlileng go jewa ke dikgomo?

Go raya gore ke lip service fela, ga go na le fa e le sepe se se dirwang.

Honourable Molebatsi o ne a bua ka value chain.


Ba ikaelela go tokafatsa beef industry kwa Bokone Bophirima.

E tshwanetse e bo e le Minister wa bo 10 in the past 10 years wa Domkrag a bua ka fa ba ikaelelang go tokafatsa mohama wa thuo kwa Bokone Bophirima.

Ba tlaa le dumela jang batho ba Bokone Bophirima fa Minister mongwe le mongwe yo o tsenang sentence ya gagwe ya ntlha ke gore, re batla go tokafatsa mohama wa thuo mo Bokone Bophirima go sena le fa e le action epe.
E re fa re tlisa Ditshutiso, re tlisa megopolo fa pele ga Palamente, gore sekasekang gore le ka e tokafatsa jang.

A mme ga le ka ke la re re le utlwile, re tlaa ya go sekaseka.

Mo tshekatshekong e ka nna issue ya gore BMC will take over the transport cost; 4 per cent wa lekgetho fa o rekisa kgomo mo baleming ba Bokone Bophirima, o monnyennyane.

Bonnyennyane re bua ka ba ba nang le dikgomo tse di kana, gore a phimolwe go lebilwe ... MR LEUWE: O botsa nako o sa mpha gore ke arabe potso?
MR KEKGONEGILE: O diegile Honourable Leuwe, ya me e tšhaile.

Ka go rialo Mr Speaker, re kopa Palamente e, re le batho ba Bokone Bophirima gore jaaka Honourable Motsamai a ne a bua, e re utlwele botlhoko, e re tshidise, re kgone go nna le botshelo jo bo botoka.

Tourism kwa kgaolong ya rona e ile kwa tlase, mme ke yone e re ntseng re ikaegile ka yone thata.

Re kopa Palamente e re utlwele botlhoko re kgone go tsosolosa mohama wa thuo.
Re ka o tsosolosa fela fa re ka nna le subsidies that can motivate the younger generation e kgone go tsena mo thuong.

I so move Mr Speaker.

Tanki.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Kekgonegile.

Question put and Division called for.

MR SPEAKER: Let us make sure that we press our gadgets to vote when your name is called.
Those who support the Motion will say, “aye” or “yes”, those who do not will say, “nay” or “no.” CLERK: MEMBER’S NAME His Excellency Dr Masisi Honourable Autlwetse Honourable Balopi Honourable Boko Honourable Brooks Honourable Billy Honourable Dr Dikoloti Honourable Dr Dow Honourable Gare Honourable Dr Gobotswang Honourable Greeff Honourable Hikuama Honourable Kablay Honourable Kapinga Honourable Kekgonegile Honourable Keorapetse Honourable Kereng AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ 17 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO CONSIDER SUPPLEMENTING NORTH WEST DISTRICT CATTLE FARMERS WHO SELL THEIR CATTLE TO BOTSWANA MEAT COMMISSION (BMC) Motion (Resumed Debate) Honourable Kgafela Honourable Khama Honourable Dr Kwape Honourable Lesedi Honourable Lelatisitswe Honourable Lesaso Honourable Dr Letsholathebe Honourable Letsholo Honourable Leuwe Honourable Lucas Honourable Majaga Honourable Makwinja Honourable Manake Honourable Mangwegape-Healy Honourable Mathoothe Honourable Dr Matsheka Honourable Mmolotsi Honourable Mmusi Honourable Moabi Honourable Moagi Honourable Moatlhodi Honourable Modukanele Honourable Mokgethi Honourable Molale Honourable Molao Honourable Molebatsi Honourable Monnakgotla Honourable Morwaeng Honourable Moswaane Honourable Motaosane Honourable Motsamai Honourable Mthimkhulu Honourable Mzwinila Honourable Nkawana Honourable Pule Honourable Rakgare Honourable Ramogapi Honourable Reatile Honourable Regoeng Honourable Saleshando Honourable Segokgo Honourable Serame Honourable Shamukuni Honourable Thiite Honourable Dr Tshabang Honourable Tshere His Honour Tsogwane √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, the results of your voting; “Ayes”17, the “Noes” 28, “Absent “19.
So, the Noes have it.

Question put and negated.

18 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO CONSIDER SUPPLEMENTING NORTH WEST DISTRICT CATTLE FARMERS WHO SELL THEIR CATTLE TO BOTSWANA MEAT COMMISSION (BMC) Motion (Resumed Debate) GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion GOBOTSWANG (SEFHARE- DR RAMOKGONAMI): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker ke emela go rola mogopolo o, o ke batlang go kopa Ntlo e gore re dumelaneng gore go nne le molao o o tlaa tlamang gore go nne le lekgetho le le khethisiwang dikompone tsa meepo.

MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR MOAGI): On a point of procedure.

Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke leboga Rre Gobotswang.

Ke ne ke dumela kere o ka rola kgang ka fa re e dumelaneng ka teng le Tona Segokgo, Acting Minister.
Jaanong ke bona a tsena mo Motion e ne e le gore re dumelane gore e o kopele go tla kwa morago.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Dr Gobotswang, kgang ke eo.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Segokgo, acting for who?

DR GOBOTSWANG: Mr Speaker, ke ne ke amogetse molaetsa gore Minister yo o amegang, Rre Moagi o tlaabo a seyo, jaanong o tshwareletswe ke Rre Segokgo.

E rile go ntse go tsweletse, ka lemoga gore boammaaruri jo bo leng teng ke gore Rre Moagi o teng mo Palamenteng, e bile o ntse a tlhopha.
Ke bo ke tsaya tshwetso ya gore go raya gore ele e e neng e leka go tlisiwa ke Rre Segokgo, gore gongwe re tlosolose mogopolo o, ga e na boammaaruri.

Boammaaruri ke gore Tona wa lephata le o teng mo Palamenteng.

Jaanong ga ke bone lebaka Mr Speaker, la gore re tlosolose mogopolo o. Ke a leboga.

MR MOAGI: Nnyaa, kana kopo e ne e le gore go na le thulaganyo e ke tsenang mo go yone, tota ke tsena mo go yone ka quarter to gompieno jaana.
Ke sone se o neng o bona ke kopela gore fa e le gore e ka re fitlhela mo nakong eo, re bo re tlosolosa re e sutisa.

Ke simolotse ka ene quarter to ka kwano, ke yone kopo e ke neng ke e kopile kwa go Honourable Gobotswang.

Ga se gore ke teng, e ne e le gore ke tlhomamise sone seo fela ka gore ke… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga se gore o teng, o ne o tsile go tlhopha ‘no’ fela.
HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)... HONOURABLE MEMBER: A re tsweleleng Mr Speaker, Minister o teng ke yoo, ga go sa tlhole go na le yo o mo emetseng.

MR SPEAKER: Mma re utlwe mong wa kgang, ga ke itse tse ba di buisantseng jaaka Minister a bua gore o dira sengwe, gore a ke dilo tse Dr Gobotswang a di itseng.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Mr Speaker, ga ke amogele gotlhelele se Tona a lekang go se dira.
E bile Mr Speaker, ke tsaya gore e tlaabo e le go nyatsa Palamente gore Minister a le teng mo Palamenteng, a bo a re tiro ya Palamente e e mo Order Paper e tlosolosiwe.

Ga ke amogele gotlhelele fela Mr Speaker, I stand to be guided.

MR SPEAKER: As far as I am concerned Honourable Member, you are the mover of the Motion, there is no agreement about any postponement, so you can move your Motion.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Ke ne ke rialo ke re ke batla go tsaya sebaka se gore re sekaseke mogopolo o ke tlang ka one wa gore go nne le molao o o tlaabong o tlama dikompone tsa meepo gore go nne le lekgetho le ba le kgethisiwang, gore dikgaolo tse ba dirang meepo kwa go tsone, di kgone go fokolediwa manokonoko a a tlisiwang ke meepo fa go santse go epiwa meepo le morago ga meepo e epiwa Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, re tshwanetse go dumela gore re fa re leng teng, ka ntata ya meepo ya Botswana.
Fa re setse re bidiwa bo upper middle income jaana, ke diteemane bogolo jang thata tsa Botswana.

Bontsi jwa diteemane tse kwa tshimologong le gompieno tota, di remeletse mo Kgaolong ya Boteti.

Fa le e tle le tsamaye mo Kgaolong ya Boteti le tsena mo metseng, le tsena mo Letlhakane la Orapa, le tlaa lemoga gore lehuma la teng, lerole la teng le thunya mo go maswe.

Gone kwa diteemane di tswang teng, kwa dikhumo di tswang teng.

Ga se yone fela Boteti e e amegang.


Fa o lebelela kgaolo e nngwe ya diteemane e e tshwanang le Jwaneng-Mabutsane, fa o tswa fela o feleletsa toropo ya Jwaneng, o leba Bophirima, o rakantshiwa ke lehuma le le seng kana ka sepe, bo Sekoma go ya go tsena kwa bo Mabutsane le bo Morwamosu.

E le kgaolo e e mo diteemaneng.

Gompieno Mabutsane ke motsemogolo wa kgaolo ya Jwaneng-Mabutsane.

Mabutsane ke one motsemogolo fela ke a dumela mo Botswana, o o sa akang wa akola mo gotweng village infrastructure.
Wa direlwa mealo 19 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion e e tsamaelanang le seemo sa one, o o mo kgaolong e e ntshang diteemane.

Jaanong sone se bagaetsho se a tshwenya.


Fa o ya kwa dikgaolong tse Selebi Phikwe e ntse e le yone boremelelo, e epa kopore le nickel, bo Mmadinare, Bobirwa, Tswapong, ga go na sepe se se supang gore tota golo fa re mo kgaolong e e ntshang dikhumo tse e kileng ya di ntsha tsa bo kopore le nickel.

Ke batla go supa gore ke dumalana le tsamaiso e e leng teng, e re saleng re e setse morago ya gore meamuso yotlhe le diteemane tse di ka fa tlase ga lefatshe, re di akole ka go tshwana.
Foo gone ke a dumalana gore ke one mogopolo o o siameng, o re tshwanetseng go o tsweledisa.

Ga re a tshwanela go itebatsa gore dikgaolo tse meepo e leng mo go tsone, tsone di lebaganwe ke manokonoko gompieno a yone meepo eo.

Fa meepo eo e fela ba tlaabo ba ntse ba arametse manokonoko a meepo go fitlhelela le dikokomane tsa bone.

Sone seo ga re a tshwanela go se itebatsa, mme re tshwanetse go dira sengwe.
A re lebeleleng sentle gore dikgaolo tse go epiwang meepo mo go tsone, seemo sa tsone ke eng, di latlhegelwa jang?

Selo sa ntlha Mr Speaker, meepo e mo gongwe e nna mo mafelong a e leng gore e ne e le masimo go lemiwa, e le meraka go ruilwe.

Fa di tsena, go bo go tlama gore balemi le barui bao, ba name ba sutetse meepo e e ntseng jalo, mme ba iphitlhela ba le kwa mafelong a e leng gore gongwe ga a siama.
Maloba fela jaana kwa Toteng, barui ba ne ba fudusiwa, ba latlhegelwa ke naga ya bone e ba neng ba ruetse mo go yone.

Ba iphitlhela ba sutetse moepo, ba le mo mafelong a jaanong ba arametseng diphologolo tse di seng kana ka sepe, di ba jela leruo mo ba tlaa felelang ba humanegile kwa bofelong.

Se sengwe gape se dikgaolo tsone tse di nang le meepo ke gore batho ka bontsi ba na le tsholofelo ya gore ba tlaa bona ditiro kwa dikgaolong tseo.
Jaanong re tlaabo re rurumoga, re tswa mo dikgaolong tse di farologanyeng, re ya kwa mafelong one ao, re oketsa dipalo mo mafelong ao.

Le ditlamelo tse di leng teng, di felela di kokonelwa ke dipalo tse di ntseng jalo.

Borukutlhi le jone bo nna teng ka gore fa re tsena kwa re sa bone ditiro ga re boe, re nna ka tsholofelo ya gore re tlaa bona sengwe.

Gone moo le gone go dira mathata fela a a tlhatlaganeng.
Fa o tsaya kgaolo e tshwana le bo Letlhakane e e leng gore gompieno ga e na le fa e le primary hospital, referral hospital ke bo 200 kilometres (km) go ya kwa bo Serowe, mme e na le dipalo tse di seng kana ka sepe.

Go raya gore go na le manokonoko a a seng kana ka sepe.

Go na le ditlamorago jaanong tsa go kgotlela tikologo, tse di tlisiwang ke tsone dikgang tsa meepo.
Go na le kgothego ya lefatshe e e seng kana ka sepe ka ntata ya diteraka tse di seng kana ka sepe tse di tlaabong di tsamaya mo kgaolong eo.

Mo bosheng jaana, re ne re utlwa selelo kwa Medie kwa Kgaolong ya Lentsweletau, ke dumela gore ke ya ga Mmaetsho Makwinja, e bile ke solofetse gore o tlaabo a re eme nokeng mo kgannyeng e. Lerole fela le e leng gore batho ba teng le go tlhatswa diaparo, fa ba re ba tlhatswitse ke mathata fela.

Jaanong gone moo go a tshwenya.


Mo gongwe go na le manokonoko fela a air pollution e e nang le ditlamorago, go kgotlela tikologo mo go feteletseng ka ntata ya majaratini a a thuntshiwang gone kwa meepong.

Lerole la teng le dikapetlana tse di tlaabong di tswa gone foo di tlaabong di ama dikgaolo le baagi ba kgaolo eo.

Mo go rayang gore kwa bofelong le malwetse a amang batho a nna teng, a ama batho bantsi mo dikgaolong tse di ntseng jalo.
Kwa Selebi Phikwe dipatlisiso di supile gore go na le makoa a mantsi a a amanang le makgwafo a a tlisitsweng ke kgotlelesego e e tswang kwa moepong wa Selebi Phikwe, soil pollution.

Go lemosegile le gore mafelo…dikgaolo tsa bo Mmadinare kwa bo Rraetsho Molebatsi a tswang teng, e bile ke solofela gore o tlaa ema mogopolo o nokeng, ke mathata fela a a tlhataganeng.

Go raya gore mmu o kgotlelesegile.


Go raya gore le dijwalo tse di tswang foo tse di tlaabong di fulwa ke dikgomo mo dingwageng go ya pele di tlaabo di ntse di iphitlhela di lwala malwetse a a amanang le go kgotlelesega ga lefatshe, mo go kgotlelang le bojwang jo bo leng teng gone foo.

Ke manokonoko a ba tlaa itemogelang ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Kwa Letlhakane gape go na le water pollution fela e e gakgamatsang.
Ba meepo fa ba tla foo fa gongwe ga go reye gore go bo go na le infrastructure kana ditlamelo tse di dirilweng tse di tlaa kgopang metsi a a leswe.

Jaanong go tlaabo go dirwa septic tanks tse gongwe di sa babalesegang, a bo go felela e le gore metsi a kgotlelesegile, batho ba dikgaolo tseo ba arametse mathata fela a a seng kana ka sepe.

Meepo mo gongwe e kgona gore e kgadise didiba tse di gaufi ka fa di berekang ka teng.
Go bo go raya gore meraka e e gaufi gone foo, le batho ba ba leng gone foo ba iphitlhela e le gore ba mo mathateng a matona a gore didiba tsa bone di ka nna tsa kgala.

Go bo go nna le mathata.

Bagaetsho, motho o ka ipotsa gore ke eng re tshwanetse go tla ka molao o o tlamang gore dikompone tsa meepo di kgethisiwe ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Re amogele gore 20 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion mo bogompienong dikompone ka bontsi tsa meepo jaaka bo Debswana le tse dingwe bo Lucara, Morupule Coal Mine, re a itse gore ba thusa dikgaolo tse ba mo go tsone.

Ba thusa ka fa ba ratang ka teng, ka nako e bone ba e batlang.

O tlaa fitlhela go lo gongwe moepo o o epang diteemane o thusa dithuso fela tse di sa tsamaelaneng le madimadi a a tswang mo diteemaneng.
Ke gore ke ka go fa sekai ka Morupule Coal Mine; gompieno e itlamile gore e ya go aga stadium sa mabono kwa Palapye ka P25 Million.

Maloba e ne e le gore go bulwa police ka P700 000, e e dirilweng ke bone ba Morupule Coal Mine.

O bo o bona moepo wa diteemane o tla o aga two and half room!
Ke seemo fela se se ka go supegetsang gore dikompone tse tsa meepo di mo seemong se di ka ntshang madi fela a a tlhoafetseng gore a tsenngwe mo dikgaolong tse gore di tlhabologe, gore morago fa jaaka ba tlaabo ba tlogetswe le mesima le ka malwetse a a seng kana ka sepe, bogolo e bo e le gore ditlamelo tsotlhe le ditlhabologo tsa bone di mo seemong se di ka ba fokoletsang manokonoko a a ntseng jalo.
Jaanong ke sone se re neng re re, go botlhokwa thata gore re dire jalo, ka gore fa re ka baya fela mo goreng ba tlaa itlama gore ba dire ka nako e ba e batlang, go raya gore re tlaa nna le mathata.

Ka re a itse gore gompieno jaana pele fa ba dira meepo ba a itlama gore ba tlaa sala morago ditsamaiso dingwe tse ba tlaa tlhomamisang gore ba tlogela diemo di le mo seemong se se rileng.
Re a itse gore golo moo ga go diragale mo goreng go ka nna le monitoring and evaluation e e ka tlhomamisang gore, mme gone a mme kwa bofelong ba a dira tse ba neng ba di solofeditse.

Jaanong ga re ka ke ra baya mo voluntary corporate social responsibility.
Gape re a itse gore le Puso ga e kgone go lemoga gore dikgaolo tse tsa meepo tse ka gore di bitsa morafe o montsi ditlhabololo le ditlamelo tse di yang kwa dikgaolong tseo di lemoge seo, gore kana jaanong go raya gore batho ba bantsi ba ba tlaa tlang mo dikgaolong tse.

Mo go rayang gore re tshwanetse gore le ditlamelo di tsamaelane le batho ba ba kalo.

Jaanong ke sone se re reng, go botlhokwa thata gore seo re se lemoge.
Ka gore fa re ka baya gape mo go reng ba tlaa nna ba koleka ka nako e ba kolekang ka yone, ba thusa ka nako e ba thusang ka yone, dikgaolo tseo in terms of planning, go ithulaganya gore ba tshwanetse gore ba di re eng, go thata ka gore ga ba nke ba itse gore mo ngwageng o o latelang ba ya go thusiwa ka bokae, mo ba ka kgonang gore ba dire mananeo.

Gone moo go nna dingalo.


Kana re batla gore ba bo ba itse gore financial year e e tlang go ya go tsena madi a a kae, gore ba dire plans tsa bone gore go tle go bereke.

Ga se mo Botswana ba re tlaabong re le ba ntlha go dira thulaganyo e e ntseng jaana.

Thulaganyo e e ntseng jaana e a dirwa mo mafatsheng a mantsi, bo South Africa, Indonesia, India, Mauritius, Ghana, France, Denmark, Sweden and Norway.

E tlaabo e se la ntlha go dirwa ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Motho o ka botsa gore, ke eng re tshwanetse go lebagana le meepo fela, mme go na le dikompone tse le tsone di kgotlelang bo tikologo, le tsone di a senya?

Nnyaa, ga go ka ke ga tshwana, dikgaolo tseo le batho ba dikgaolo tseo tatlhegelo e ba latlhegelwa ka yone in terms of gore mafulo le masimo, fa meepo e tsamaya ba sala ka kgotelesego lefatshe, soil erosion, dilo tse dintsintsi fela tse ba tlaa tswelelang mo dingwageng ba ntse ba di arametse.

Ke meepo fela e e dirang thulaganyo e e ntseng jalo.
Motho yo mongwe o ka botsa gore, why not go the policy route?

Ke eng re tabogela gore ra re molao, ke eng re sa tle ka policy?

Nnyaa bagaetsho, re a itse gore policy bokoa jwa yone bo ntse jang.

Re ithutile ka Economic Empowerment, ke a bona ka 2012 re ne ra tla ka policy e ya Citizen Economic Empowerment.

Nako eo re ne re ntse re bua re le ba kganetso gore, nnyaa e seng policy, ga e ka ke ya dira sepe, go tlhokafala molao o o ka tlamang gore Batswana ba tsene mo itsholelong.
Morago ga dingwagangwaga ba ga rona ba ba busang ba le kgatlhanong le mogopolo o ke gone re bo re dumalana gore mme re tshwanetse go tswelela re dire molao.

Jaanong ga re a tshwanela gore fa re bua ka kgang e re bo re tsaya the longest route to mandatory corporate social responsibility.

Re ya kwa policy, morago ga 10 years re tlaa lemoga gore policy e ga e bereke, e bo e le gone re dirang molao.

Nnyaa, re tlaabo re sa itirele sentle.
Ke sone se go leng botlhokwa thata gore re sekasekeng kgang e, go tle go nne le seelo gore pele fa go ntshiwa tse dingwe profits e bo e le gore lekgetho le tsene, le a tsena, gore batho ba dikgaolo tse meepo e leng mo go tsone, gompieno jaana jaaka di phatlaletse le lefatshe le lotlhe, le bo Lerala ba e tla ba kotopisa foo, Morupule, Selebi Phikwe, Toteng, jaanong go gontsi fela, le bo Ghanzi le Medie ba le mo teng, e bo re itse gore re sireleditse batho ba e leng gore ke ba dikgaolo tseo.
Ke na le tsholofelo ya gore mogopolo o re tlaa o atla, re tlaa o dumalana, ka gore o tlhamaletse.

MR KEORAPETSE: On a point of clarification Mr Speaker.

Honourable Gobotswang, kgang e ke neng ke re gongwe o e tlhalose mogolole ke gore, kana go na le mowanyana o mongwe o o bosula wa to distort kgang fela e e tlhamaletseng jaaka e ya gago.
Ke batla 21 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion o e tlhalosa, e ke itseng gore e ya gore re tswa gone fa e bo e le gore jaanong e toutiwa jaaka e kete ke yone kgang, ke ya gore, akere wa re ditswammung di tswelele di sologela molemo Motswana mongwe le mongwe lefatshe lotlhe ka bophara?
Mme tota se o se buang ke gore, ba ba epang ditswammung fa ba leng teng a go bonale gore go na le kompone e e dirang madimadi, ka go fetola seemo sa kgaolo eo, e ba berekelang mo go yone.

Akere ke sone se o se buang?

Ka gore e a bo e tlaa re re tswa fa batho e bo e le gore jaanong ba iphatha ka diphuka fela e le tsa bone, ba bua gore, o ne o re fa go epiwang ditswammung kwa Orapa, go raya gore di felele gone koo, mme wena tota e se kgang e o e buang.
HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Dr Gobotswang.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, kgang e e tshwanetse gore e tlhape fela e ntse jalo.

Ga re senyolole tsamaiso e e teng ya gore ditswammung tsa lefatshe le, ke tsa lefatshe lotlhe.

Re tlile go nna re ntse re itse gore di a epiwa, makgetho a lone le a tsena mo itsholelong ya Botswana, Minister o tlaa tla a kgaoganya madi ao a a tseneng mo letloleng la Botswana ka dikgaolo tsotlhe.
Go monate ka gore gompieno jaaka ke ntse jaana, kgaolo e ke tswang mo go yone ga e na mines.

Ga se mo e leng gore ke ne ke ka re ke ntse jaana ke bo ke re a ba ba nang le mines ba tswelele e nne tsa bone jaaka go ne go diragala kwa South Africa gotwe Bakgatla ba ga Kgafela ba kopane le ba mines go epa platinum.

Bafokeng le bone kwa South Africa ba bo Rustenburg le bone ba ntse jalo.

Nnyaa thulaganyo ya rona e e teng ka re ke tshwanetse go gatelela gore yone e a tswelela.
Mongwe o a ne a batla clarification.

MR MOATLHODI: Nnyaa ke ne ke re o re “meepo,” e seng o ntse o re ga e na “mines.” O re ga e na meepo.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Meepo... MR SPEAKER: The Vice President (VP) is asking for clarification.

DR GOBOTSWANG: I yield Mr Speaker.

HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR TSOGWANE): Point of clarification.

Ke a leboga.

Ke tsaya gore Keorapetse o ne a boditse clarification e e maleba.
Kana dilo tse di tshwanetse gore di tlhalosege, di tsene mo ditsebeng tsa setšhaba, e se ka ya re kamoso e bo e le gore jaanong re gogagogana.

Bontsi jwa mafelo a rona ga a na meepo, it is only a few districts or villages tse re fitlhelang di na le meepo mo go tsone.

Jaanong ke ne ke batla clarification fa sir; jaanong ka gore tota o bua ka meepo, a o bua ka beng ba meepo kana o bua le Goromente gore le ene fa a na le seabe mo meepong, le ene a ntshe makgetho a o a buang?
DR GOBOTSWANG: Kgang ke gore ra re dikompone tse di epang, di na le meepo e ba e filweng gore ba epe diteemane kana dikopore, di tshwanetse gore di kgethisiwe.

Go ka nna ga diragala gore gongwe o ka wa fitlhela e le gore kompone e nngwe e tshwaraganetse tiro le Puso.

Ke tsaya gore mo ditsamaisong tsa rona tsa gompieno, dikompone tse di tshwanetse di bo di duela lekgetho.

Ga ke dumele gore di ka epa fela di sa kgethisiwe.


Ke yone kgang e ke e buang gore dikompone tse di nang le meepo di epa dikopore, bo eng, diteemane, re tshwanetse gore re di dikgethise madinyana mangwe a re tlaa a tsenyang mo dikgaolong tse di arametseng bagaetsho.

Ke gore di intshitse setlhabelo mo boemong jwa bontsi jwa dikgaolo tsa rona tse e leng gore re iketlile, re na le lefatshe, ga re ise re fudusiwe mo masimong le mo merakeng ya rona.
Meepo e fa e ema, re tlaabo re ntse tsweletse ka matshelo a rona, mme dikgaolo tseo e le gore di arametse manokonoko morago ga meepo yone eo e fela.

Tota ga go a siama gore mo bogompienong e bo e le gore Kgaolo ya Boteti e ntse jaaka e ntse.

Ke gore fa o re o lebelela tselanyana e e yang kwa Rakops gore go tsere lebaka… Ke kile ka bo ke bereka mo Pusong re tsamaya ka yone e le motsetsedimana o le mongwefela, e re le fapaana, yo mongwe a bo a gata kwa ntle, yo mongwe a gata mo teng.
Fa o re o lebelela metsi a Rakops, a e reng o a bula o bo o kare mae a boletse mo ntlong ...(Interruptions)… mo khumong e e kanakana.

Ke sone se re reng nnyaa bagaetsho, ga go a tshwanela gore go tswelele ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

DR GOBOTSWANG: I yield Mr Speaker, for a clarification.

MR BOKO: Point of clarification.

Thank you Mr Speaker and good morning.


Honourable Member of Parliament (MP), ke reeditse mogopolo o wa gago wa mandatory Corporate Social Responsibility.

E bile ke itse gore ga gona ope tota yo o tlileng go ganana le one yo o ratang Batswana.

Gone mme ke eng se se ka thibelang gore mogopolo o o fete?
Kana ke eng se se ka thibelang gore the mining companies di se ka tsa 22 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion dumalana le go tsenya letsogo mo go tlhabololeng ba ba teng kwa moepo o dirang ditiro tsa one teng?

Fa mogopolo o re ka o fetisa, bothata e ka nna eng gore mogopolo o o ntseng jaana o o tswina o ka feta?
Is it a question of go ngangatlela ga Puso kana companies tse, kana go tlaabo go koba companies tse mo lefatsheng la rona?

A go na le bothata bongwe jo bo ka dirang gore golo mo go siameng mo go tswina, mo go tlhotlhegileng jaaka mogopolo one o, go ka se ka ga feta?

Ke a leboga.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga.

Ga ke bone gore companies di ka nna le mathata.

Jaaka ke bua, Morupule Coal Mine e supile ka botlalo gore companies tse di ka kgona.
Jaanong mme ba bangwe ba tlaabo ba ingwabaile fela, bo Morupule Coal Mine bone ba ipheleleditse ba leka go thusa ka fa ba thusang ka teng mme e bile o bona gore ba thusa mo go tlhoafetseng.

Gone moo go re supegetsa gore meepo e e ka kgona gore e ntshe madinyana a re tlaabong re a dumalane.
Kana tsamaiso ke gore fa re dumalana gompieno re le Palamente, se Puso e tshwanetseng e se dire ke go sekaseka go bona gore mme gone how can they best implement Motion o, gore o se ka wa tloga wa thulathulana le epe melao kana ditsamaiso dingwe tsa ditirisanyo kana le mafatshe a mangwe, kana le bagwebi ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Fela rona re tshwanetse re dumalane re le Palamente gore a Puso e ye go sekaseka kgang e gore tota kwa bofelong, go nne le tsamaiso e re ka fokotsang manokonoko a dikgaolo tse e leng gore ke tsone di intshitseng setlhabelo mo boemong jwa dikgaolo ka bontsi mme re akola tse di tswang kwa dikgalong tseo.
A re nneng pelotlhomogi le rona re re re a leboga gore ba bo ba dirile gore ba kgaogane le rona se ba nang le sone mo dikgaolong tsa bone mme re lemoga gore botsogo jwa bone bo mo diphatseng, ba latlhegetswe ke tse di ba latlhegetseng.

Re le Palamente ya Botswana ra re re batla gore go ntshiwe lemmenyana lengwe gore le tsene kwa letloleng le gore le ka ba thusa Honourable Speaker.

around bo 25 per cent plus e le madi a ba a duelang.
Jaanong le la social responsibility le le tlaabong le ama dikgaolo tse meepo e e tlaabong e le mo go tsone, ke re o mphetise fa gore will that be a once off thing or e nne on an annual basis fela jaaka dikompone di kgetha ngwaga le ngwaga, le lone le kgethisiwe ngwaga le ngwaga?

And to what percentage do you think would be appropriate gore di ka kgona go ntsha lekgetho leo fa e le gore ke ngwaga le ngwaga, kana fa e le gore ke a once off payment?
Just to put us mo tseleng gore re se ka ra re re nganga, re bo re tloga re etsaetsega ka gore already it is happening, go dira donations go teng but mo lekgethong le re batlang jaanong e nna mandatory, le nne ka mohuta o o ntseng jang?

Ke yone fela e ke neng ke re gongwe o e tlhatswe mongwame.

Thank you sir.

MR SPEAKER: Doctor.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ga ke itse gore nako e ntse jang Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Three and half minutes.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Okay.

Ke a leboga Honourable Motaosane.


Selo santlha, ba bangwe ba akanyetsa gore bo 2.5 per cent e ka nna yone e re ka reng e ka duelwa pele fa go ntshiwa profit, mme ke dilo tse e leng gore di ka sekasekwa ga bonwa gore di tsamaya jang.

Ya gore re tlaabo gongwe re ba kgethisa gabedi, o tlaa leboga gore corporate social responsibility as we speak, e teng, e a diragala.

Jaaka ke ne ke e fa dikai tsa bo Lucara le ba bangwe ba rotloetsa metshameko le tse dingwe, e teng e, a diragala.
Ba a e dira bone, mme se re se dirang ke gore jaanong e se ka ya nna voluntary ka gore ba bangwe ba tla ingwabaya fela, mme ba bangwe ba supa gore ba a thusa, e bile ba thusa mo go nonofileng.

Ke tsaya gore e tlhalosegile Honourable Motaosane.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: One last clarification; ke Healy.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

DR GOBOTSWANG: I yield Mr Speaker.

DR GOBOTSWANG: I yield Honourable Motaosane.

MR MOTAOSANE: Point of clarification.

Thank you, through you Mr Speaker.


MR SPEAKER: Yes Honourable Motaosane.

MR MOTAOSANE: Thank you Honourable Speaker and Honourable MP Gobotswang.

Mogopolo o montle thata, ga ke bone o ka ganega.

Gongwe ke tlhoka gore o tlhatswe dintlha di le pedi; as we speak, these companies di duela lekgetho, I am not sure ke bokae but it must be HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le nna ke kopile Rraagwe… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Healy.

MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Thank you Mr Speaker, thank you Dr Gobotswang through you Mr Speaker.
Dr Gobotswang, ke ne ke batla clarification fela gore this one talks specifically about mining, jaanong ke ne ke ipotsa gore does it mean we are going to get to a point where we make similar legislation per sector, kana go ne go sa batle e nna all encompassing?
23 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion DR GOBOTSWANG: Tota gantsi fela the international best practice ke gore mines tota ke tsone tse e leng gore o fitlhela go remeletswe mo go tsone.

Ke lefatshe le le lengwe fela le ke boneng le na le lekgetho le le tsentseng sectors tsotlhe fela; kana makalana a mantsintsi fela a itsholelo.
Ke ne ke tsaya gore re ka simolola ka yone e e leng gore bontsi jwa mafatshe tota ba remelela mo go yone ba remeletse tshenyo kana ditatlhegelo tse e leng gore dikgaolo tse e leng gore di mo meepong e di latlhegelwang ka teng jaaka ke ntse ke supa, ka fa ba latlhegelwang ka teng ke botsogo, ba bangwe ba felela ba le mo lehumeng.

I yield for Rra Nkamo Honourable Speaker.


MR MOATLHODI: Ke a go leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke a go leboga Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Sefhare-Ramokgonami.

In case mine o tshwana le former BCL o sa dire any breakthrough, mme rona re ntshitse molao o o ba tlamang gore ba re neele one madi a re a batlang a, a ga re bone fa ba tlaabo gongwe ka tsela nngwe re ba papetla gongwe ba bo ba re raya ba re melao ya lona e a re gatelela, re a tswa re a tsamaya?

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga.


Ke tsaya gore fa mo seemong se e leng gore gongwe mine ga o dire dipoelo tse di rileng, on a case by case basis, ke tsaya gore Puso ga e ka ke ya nna bosetlhogo jo e leng gore e ka se ke e lemoge gore mine o o a totomela, mme ba itele mo go bone, go sekasekwe mabaka a bone otlhe, mme go lemogwe gore ba tshwanetse gore gongwe go nne le gone mo gotweng tax rebates.
Gongwe bone ba name ba sa tseye nako mo ngwageng oo kana dingwaga tse pedi, e bo e le gore gongwe go ka twe nnyaa, re tlaa nama re le e tshwaretse.

Mr Speaker, ke tsaya gore ke wetse, mme ke tlaa kopa gore bakaulengwe le eme mogopolo o nokeng.
I therefore move “That this Honourable House resolves to request Government to introduce a law setting a for a mandatory Corporate Social Responsibility specified proportion of profits before tax for all extraction companies operating in the Republic of Botswana so as to provide mitigation against the adverse impact of mining on communities that host extraction companies.” I so move Mr Speaker.

I thank you.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Dr Gobotswang.

Honourable Members, the floor is open for debate.


MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR MOAGI): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker and thank you very much.

Ke kgonne go ikopa ka kwa, mme ke tsibogele Tshutiso e e tlang ka Honourable Gobotswang.

Mr Speaker, Botswana already has a law which regulates social upliftment programmes to ensure that communities benefit from companies, that include those doing mining or extractive industries.
This is as per the Economic Inclusion Act of 2021 Section 29 (4).

Mining companies have been doing Corporate Social Responsibility in Botswana as a purely voluntary initiative prior to the enactment of the Economic Inclusion Act of 2021.

Subsequent to that, the CSR activities are governed by the Economic Inclusion Act of 2021.
As a result of that, it is not yet prudent to now amend the law or put another law on top of whatever is being provided for under Section 29 (4) of the Economic Inclusion Act so that there is a specific proportion of the profits before tax allocated to CSR as the mover of the motion suggests.

the positive social economic It is best international practice for CSR activities to be voluntary.
Mining companies engage in CSR activities as a contribution towards the society as part of their coexistence with the community, over and above the royalties and taxes they pay to Government.

It is my ministry’s strong believe that for our licenced mining operations, impacts outweigh the negative impacts, and that our mining operations are uplifting to the livelihoods of the communities hosting them.
While our communities may be affected by impacts resulting from the presence of mines operating in their vicinity, they benefit from the developments that usually come along with the mines such as schools, hospitals, roads, electricity, just to mention but a few.
This may have negative unintended consequences especially to the local mining communities as some companies may decide to withhold other benefits that they provide and only pay the mandatory CSR amount which may be less than the other benefits that they may have been provided with.

Companies that are already in operation, may react negatively to this because they would see it as moving of goal posts when they have already invested in the country.
It may impact negatively on Botswana’s attractiveness… MR TSOGWANE: Clarification Minister.

Ke ne ke sa batle go go ntsha mo moweng jaaka o le mo mowing, e bile o baya puo ya gago ka bokgabane.

Clarification yame fela ke gore, phelelong o re tlhomamisetse gore o tlaa batla gore Motswana mongwe le mongwe a utlwe se o se buang.

Ka go rialo, e re phelelong e bo e le gore jaanong o ka bua ka puo e Motswana mongwe le mongwe a tla e utlwang, o soboka (summarise) se o se buang.

Ke a leboga.
Ke a leboga.

Ke yone kopo yame gore re rurifaletswe jalo.

24 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gone mme ke eng a sa bue ka Setswana fela?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, ga a ka ke a batla go re jela nako, gabedi; a batla go bua ka Setswana le… HONOURABLE MEMBER: A ko o iketle wena Hikuama le Ramogapi.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O tlaa bua mo nakong ya gagwe.


MR TSOGWANE: Kana o bua mo nakong ya gagwe; Rraetsho Ramogapi, o nne o iketla.

Motho yo o neetswe nako.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR SPEAKER: Le mo jela nako jaanong.

MR MOAGI: Mr Speaker, may I continue?

Mr Speaker?

MR SPEAKER: Minister, continue.

MR MOAGI: Go ntse fela jalo Your Honour the VP.

Ke lebile mo nakong ya me.

Mafoko a mangwe fa o ka nna wa tsaya ka Setswana pele o sa a tlhalosa ka Sekgoa, a ka tloga a latlha molaetsa.
Jaanong ke gore ke dire pego ya me jalo pele, ke bo ke e soboka ke e neela Motswana.

It would impact negatively on Botswana’s attractiveness as a mining destination.

Thulaganyo e re e dirang gompieno gone kwa bo kwa bo Dubai go leka go ngokela batho koo.

It would seem as another form of tax and additional cost that were not included in the initial investment of the company.
Having recently engaged with the international and local stakeholders when we were consulting on the Mines and Minerals Act, it was clear that as much as Botswana is an attractive mining destination, the introduction of additional taxes would not be welcome and would probably result in Botswana’s ranking dropping.

It will simply be seen as a tax and Botswana will be seen as a country with too many taxes when compared to other countries.
Mr Speaker, my ministry will not support this as it will clearly bring about unnecessary risks and will give the perception that investing in the extraction industry in Botswana is too expensive and has multiple taxes.

This will rather tarnish the investment appeal and doing business in Botswana that we are currently peaking elsewhere.
The current arrangements have worked well as can be seen by the multiple Corporate Social Responsibility projects and other benefits that have come from the extraction industry.

We believe the provision in the recent Economic Inclusion Act is sufficient to cater for this CSR requirements.

…Silence… MR MOAGI: Ka bokhutshwane fela ke gore fa re lebelela molao wa rona o o leng mo Mines and Minerals Act ra re meamuso yotlhe ya lefatshe la Botswana e e tlang ka ditswammung e tlaa ya kwa Batswaneng botlhe.
Mme e rile re lemoga gape jalo re le Palamente e re bo re boa gape re dira molao o re neng re o fetisa mo ngwageng o o neng o feta o wa Economic Inclusion Act.

Section 29 Subsection 4 e lebelela botlhe ba ba dirang ditirelo mo Botswana gore isang tse di maleba kwa go ba le a bong le direla kwa go bone mme e bile gape le ikaegile ka gore ba e leng banana, bomme, banalebogole le ba bangwe fela ba ba ka tswang ba ne ba timilwe tse dingwe mo botshelong.
A ba kgone gore ba lebelelwe ka leitlho le lengwe ba tle ba kgone gore ba thusiwe ka tsotlhe tse ba ka tswang ba di tlhoka mo community ya bone ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Dilo tse di tlaabo di simolola jaanong di itebaganngwa ke one molawana o gore go tle go kgone gore di direge ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Jaanong fa re ka tlhatlaganyetsa melao mo godimo ga e mengwe, kgabagare jaanong re tlaabo re boifisa ba re lekang go ba ngoka e le babeeletsi gore ba tle ba re thuse ba re direle tse re di tlhokang mo ga rona.

Mongwe le mongwe o tlaa supa jalo gore gongwe le gongwe kwa meepo e leng teng ga go na ope yo o nnang moriti o tsididi, ba nna ba eme ka dinao ba bona gore ba ka thusa jang fa ba direlang teng.
Re bona dikole, clinics, ditsela le eng fela tse re tshelang ka tsone tsa letsatsi le letsatsi ba leka go di tokafatsa.

Mo godimo ga moo ba bo ba dira le dimphonyana tse di felang ka pele; a ke tsa dijo, diaparo kana sepe fela se se a bong se tlhokiwa ka nako ya go nna jalo, including go agela ba ba tlhokang kana ba dikobodikhutshwane ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
So, selo se ra re nnyaa a re dire gore mme re nne re ntse re di somarela ka tsela e e ntseng jalo ka melawana e e ntseng e le teng e e dirang, re bona gore ba ntse ba tsweletse ba a dira.

Kana le tlaa lemoga gape gore gongwe e tlaa fa o lebile kompone e le tona o lebile gore e tshwanetse e ka bo e ntsha madi a a rileng mme gakologelwa gape gore e a bo e sa lebelela one motsana o fela, e a bo e lebile lefatshe ka bophara.
So, fa e le gore 25 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion gongwe golo gongwe o bone ba dirile two and a half mo motseng oo, itse gore go na le fa gongwe gape kwa e leng gore e a bo e amile teng kwa e leng gore e thusitse Batswana teng.

So, ke selo se e leng gore ga re batle gore re tloge re kgotlele kana re kgobere bopelontle kana bopelonomi joo re bo re dira jalo.
Mme e bile le fa o tsamaya mafatshe ka bophara o a bona gore ke selo se se rotloediwang, ga se gatelelwe.

Ke sone se re batlang gore re tsamaise re ntse re tsweletse ka sone ka gore go na le bodupo.

Go na le go dupa mo gontsi mo re go bonang ga ditswammung lefatshe ka bophara.

Sa rona ke gore re leke go ngoka batho ba gore nte re tle re simolole, bogolo jang e bile re ikopantse le Batswana.
E bile ga re felele foo jaanong malatsing a, ra re a o se ka ba felela fela mo go reng jaanong o ntsha the primary mineral, ee, bona gore re ka soboka eng se sengwe gape ra se baakanyetsa mo Botswana mo ra se dira gore e nne another finished product e e ka tlhamang ditiro gape mo Botswana.

Fa e le gore ke a battery mineral re bone gore re dira batteries tse mo Botswana.

Fa e le gore ke a concentrate, re bone gore e ka ntsha eng gape se se ka dirwang mo Botswana.
Ke se e leng gore re a se eletsa e bile re se bua le bone, e bile le ba a solofetsa jalo go ya kwa pele.

Re se ka ra ba imetsa ka gore go simolola moepo kana ditiro tse di ntseng jaana go tla ka madi a a bokete kwa tshimologong.

Re se ka ra ba ra batla go ikobela ba re batlang gore ba re thuse.

MR BOKO: On a point of clarification.

Thank you Mr Speaker.


Honourable Minister, o itse gore ke ntse ke go reeditse fa o bua ka kgang ya gore kgang e ya Corporate Social Responsibility e tshwanetse go nna kgang ya gore batho ba rotloediwe, ba se ka ba gatelelwa.
Re iphitlhela re le mo seemong sa gompieno se fa o bona re tla ka Motion o o ntseng jaana ka mabaka a gore ba sale ba rotloeditswe lebaka le le telele and go lebega e le gore ga ba ntshe dithuso tse e leng gore they are proportionate somehow to profits tse di bonang jaaka ba mine mo ... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gatwe Economic Inclusion Act e a… MR BOKO: Ke kopa go bua Mr Speaker, fa ke ne ke ka fiwa nako ka fiwa tlotlo eo.
MR MOAGI: Mme o se ka wa njela nako tlhe rra, bua ka pele re tle re... MR BOKO: Yes, maDomkrag ke bone ba ba neng ba ntsosetsa modumo.

Ke ne ke batla go itse gore jaanong wa reng ka gore re sale re ba rotloeditse lebaka le le telele, mme ga go na nko e e tswang lemina ka fa e leng gore go rotloetsa ka teng?

In no time jaanong golo mo re go dire e le molao go nne mandatory.

Ga se gore o a gatelela, ke gore fela jaanong fa e le molao ba a itse gore ba tshwanetse gore ba dire ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
I will give you an example, there are companies which are in business here.

There are companies tse e leng gore di operate business e e tswang mo Botswana mme fa di tla mo kgannyeng ya go thusa o di compare le ka fa di thusang kwa mafatsheng a mangwe, let us say kwa South Africa kana any African country, o bona gore what they are giving us is peanuts compared to what they are doing, and we have seen that ka nako ya COVID ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
So, that is why we have come up with a Motion of this colour wa gore jaanong this thing should be mandatory.

Ke a leboga.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: A go ja nako banna.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarifications o di tseye tsotlhe.

MR MOAGI: Thank you Vice President (VP) through you Mr Speaker.

MR TSOGWANE: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke ne ke riana ke re clarification e nngwe.


Ka fa molao o o beilweng ka teng, Motlotlegi Dr Gobotswang a utlwela botlhoko thata mafelo ao a a amegang a a tshwanang le a Boteti jaana, a o ka re by the same token o ka bo a utlwela botlhoko batho ba re meepo eo e hire batho ba ba mo lefelong leo fela gore ba tle ba tokafatse matshelo a bone?

Ke eng a sa wele a rialo?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: How is that possible?

MR MOAGI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Thank you very much, mma ke tswelele.


Nnyaa, mma ke go fe dikai tse pedi fela Honourable Boko jaaka o ntse o bua.

Lebelela meepo e e saleng e nna mo Botswana fela re tsaya examples tse pedi, whether o kwa Orapa kana Jwaneng, go dipatela ke tseo le dikole tse di tsayang bana ba rona.

I am just citing two examples gore ga se gore ga e ise e di dire sepe.

Ke eo e dirile and entse e tsweletse e a dira e tsenya gone moo.
Mpotse gore fa dilo tse di seyo a o raya gore go bo ka go sena ...(interruption)… di ntseng jang.

Jaanong le gone kwa Selebi Phikwe go dipatela le dikole tse di tsileng ka thulaganyo ya meepo yone eo.

So, a re lebogeng se se a bong se le teng se tsisitswe foo.

Fa re batla mo gongwe mo go ntsi mme re se ka ra rubbish mo go setseng go dirilwe ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

And then go next door o tsene fa platinum fa Bafokeng, jaaka go ne go fiwa example ke Honourable Gobotswang kgantele.
Only the area localised around that mine or 26 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion mineral area ke yone e e tlhabologileng.

Fa o fologela ka kwano o tla kwa Mochaneng le bo Lehurutshi o iponela fela gore nnyaa ditsela tsa teng ke potholes tsa ditonki, o a bona.

So, ga re batle mo e leng gore jaanong re tlaabo re re community e bo e nna yone e e leng gore e ja meamuso e le nosi.
Ra re a go phatlalale Botswana ka bophara, tsela e e tswe ko Boteti e ye kwa Borolong e le gore go tlhabololwa ka yone meamuso e e tswang fa meepong yone eo.

Go botlhokwa thata jalo gore re tle re kgone gore re tlhabologe re le lefatshe mme re ame dilo tse tsotlhe tse.

Re bo re re re setse re ntse re tsentse molao o in the Economic Inclusion Act, le tle le e bale, e tle e tlhabolole boammaaruri jo, ka gore e akareditse sectors ka bontsi.
Kana jaanong re tlaabo re simolola re re okay, kwa agriculture, tourism, dikago le dipalamo a re yeng.

E bo jaanong go nna bokete, ke gore fa investor e akanya dilo tse, o tlaabo a re, banna!

ke gore ke ya go dira CSR, fa e le gore it is a diversified investor who invests kwa tourism and mining, a bo a itse gore molao o o mo eme mo molaleng.

Thulaganyo e e setseng e direga gompieno, I think it is catered for adequately.
E sekegetswe tsebe, ga re a tshwanelwa gore re bo re simolola re govern sengwe le sengwe ka melao, ka gore jaanong go tlaabo go nna bokete gore babeeletsi ba bone gore a mme do they have security of tenure with their investment ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.
Ke sone se nne ke re, ke dumela gore molawana o o teng o, it has catered for us sentle e bile go tlaa tswelela go diragala ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, ka gore fa mmeeletsi a bona gore o batla go dira tiro ka kwano, mme o kare o ntse moriti o tsididi, go tlaa mo ama.

Re ba bone botlhe ka nako ya COVID, e le gore mongwe le mongwe ke yo o emang ka dinao a reka dilo tsotlhe tse di neng di tlhokafala gore a thuse babereki ba gagwe le community e a leng mo go yone.
Ke sengwe se ke bonang se siame ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, ga se tlhoke gore re boe gape jaanong re pege molao o mo godimo ga molao o mongwe.

Ke sone se ke reng nnyaa, ga ke dumalane le Tshutiso e, gore re bo re pega molao o mongwe gape jaanong wa CSR mo godimo ga melao e e setseng e le teng which is catered for.

Ka bokhutshwane jwa mafoko ao, ke ame jalo Tshutiso e ya ga Honourable Gobotswang.

I thank you Mr Speaker.


e bile ke re se se itumedisang go lebega Vice President (VP) le ba bangwe ba tlaa re ema nokeng, mogopolo o ba o ratile thata.

Go a tualo botsadi, fa batho ba bona mogopolo e le o o thusang Batswana, ba supe fa e le mogopolo o le bone ba ka o atla, mme ke dumalana le ene Mr Speaker... LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Point of order.

Ke kopa gore re itse the way we debate in this Parliament.

There are ways of debating, if you want to debate, you debate.
Ga o simolole o tsenya batho ba bangwe mafoko, o simolola o nyenyafatsa se batho ba bangwe ba se akantseng, ka tsela e Rre Nkawana... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga gona point of order.

MR TSOGWANE: Ee, it is a point of order.

Ka fa Rre Nkawana a batlang go dira ka teng.

Ga re ise re bue, ga se mo a ka reng re eme mogopolo o nokeng.

Re na le mabaka a rona a go sa o ema nokeng.

Le Batswana botlhe fa o ka dira referendum, bangwe ba tlaa nna le mabaka a bone a go sa ema mogopolo o nokeng.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, he is debating.

MR TSOGWANE: Ga ke itse gore a o feletswe ke mafoko a to debate.

O batla gore jaanong a debate ka rona.

Jaanong a a debate Motion, a re tlogele rona ba re lebaganeng le kgang e. Ke a leboga.

He is out of order.

MR NKAWANA: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go a supa gore ga se point of order.
MR NKAWANA: Honourable Vice President (VP) o utlwetse, ke ne ke go galaletsa ke tsaya gore le wena o tlaa... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, ga a utlwala fa o bona Speaker a sa dira ruling jaana.

MR NKAWANA: Ga go molato.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke kopa Rre Boko a didimale.

O a bo a simolola mokgwa wa gagwe wa bogologolo.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: A bo a tloga a lela gone fa.

MR NKAWANA (SELEBI PHIKWE EAST): Ke a go leboga Mr Speaker.
Ke supe kwa tshimologong gore ke ema mogopolo wa ga Motlotlegi Gobotswang nokeng, MR NKAWANA: Ke kopa tshireletso.

VP ke ne ke re ke ne ke go galaletsa motsadi.

Ke go bua bontle mo matlhong a batho... 27 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, le Jeso ga a ise a ko a galalediwe ke diabolo.

Ga ise a ko.
Ga ise a ko.

MR NKAWANA: Mr Speaker, boammaaruri ke gore batho ba ba arametseng mogote le matshwenyego otlhe a kwa go epiwang meepo teng, a mantsi thata jaaka mong wa Tshutiso a setse a supile.

Rona segolobogolo mo Phikwe, re bona re setse ka mahuti le dithotobolo tsa mebu, ga gona sepe se re ka se supang e le sa batho ba kgaolo.
Ke dumalana le mosutisi wa Motion gore, ga a re mo go ntseng go le teng go phimolwe, madi a diteemane, kopore kgotsa ditswammung tse dingwe jaaka e bile di tsamaisiwa, di phimolwe.

Se a se buang ke gore a go nne le bonnyennyane jo e ka reng ka letsatsi la moepo o tsamaile jaaka wa Phikwe re o bona jaana, go bo go na le se re ka se supang.

Le gone re sa letela gore moepo o nyelele.


Ra re batho ba kgaolo, kana ke bone ba imelwang ke manokonoko a gore ba bo ba fudusitswe mo masimong, merakeng le mo metseng ya bone, ba ya go bewa go sele gore ba sutele tiro e tona ya setšhaba, mme ba dumela.

Ga ba a ka ba nganga le ope, ba ne ba amogela gore tiro e ke tiro e tona e e amang lefatshe la Botswana.

Re tshwanetse batho ba mofuta o, re ba akgole.


Ga re a tshwanela go ba fa kakgolo ya molomo fela, tikologo ya bone e sala e kgautlhane jaaka ke bona ya rona mo Selebi Phikwe.

Ga ke itse thata ka ya kwa Orapa le e mengwe, mme bosupi jo ke nang le bone le gompieno jaana ke gore, bophirimo jwa moepo wa Phikwe, sengwe le sengwe se kgautlhane; matlo a batho, disanke di jelwe ke sulphur, ke dirusi fela, Honourable Molebatsi o a itse.
Mmu ke bohibidu, ga gona bojang jo bo santseng bo ka mela e le ntateng ya sulphur e e tsewang ke phefo e bo e tsamaela koo.

Batho ba kgaolo ya Phikwe fa chomela e bereka, ba nna ba ithibile dinko, bontsi jwa bone ba feletse ba lwala, ka gore phefo fa e fetoga mosi wa chomela o tsamaela ntlheng e nngwe.
Mr Speaker, gongwe re supe gore kana meepo yotlhe ga se sennelaruri, even diamonds are not forever, e bile gompieno re setse re bua ka synthetic diamonds, mo go rayang gore nako nngwe re ka nna ra bona Moepo wa Orapa o tswetswe.

O tswetswe ka lebaka la gore, go setse go na le substitute.
Batho ba Boteti ka fa ke utlwang ka teng, le bone ba ya go sala go sena se ba ka se supang gore re kile ra bo re na le moepo, mme re tlogeletswe se le se le se, se re ka itshetsang ka sone, kwa ntle ga mahuti a re a bonang.

Go ngomola pelo Mr Speaker gore, go dirwe re bo re bona se, bogolo jang mo Phikwe re setse re tshelela mo letshogong, go lala lefatshe le roroma, matlo a batho a ranyegile (cracked), mme ga gona se Puso e ka se dirang gore ba ba thuse go baakanya matlo a mofuta oo.
Mr Speaker, ke supe gape gore mo kgaolong e, fa o tswa mo moepong wa BCL o tsamaela kwa botlhabatsatsi, ditlhotlhomiso di supile gore discharge e e neng e tswa mo all the earth pipes le leswe le le neng le kgophiwa le tshelwa koo, le tsamaile le melapo.

Noka ya Motloutse gompieno di supile gore as far as 100km go tswa mo Phikwe, metsi a noka e a polluted.
Re solofela gore batho ba Kgaolo e ya Bobirwa go tsamaela ka fa ba bo ba a nwa metsi ao, ba nosa leruo la bone mo nokeng ya Motloutse e, ka leswe le le tswang mo moepong wa Phikwe.

Pele ga o tswalwa, le o ntse o tswetswe jaana o na le discharge e bomaitseanape ba supang gore golo mo go na le minerals which pollute metsi ao.
Se Mr Speaker, ke sone se se dirang gore re bo re bua gompieno re re, a go nne le lemmenyana fela, a le ka bidiwa zero point, kgotsa e ka nna 1.0, e Goromente a tlaabong a e sekasekile, le le ka ntshiwang ke mogwebi wa moepo, a ntshetsa baagi ba kgaolo eo.

A sa ntshe ka nako e ene a ratileng, a ntsha go le mandatory molao o teng o a supa gore, nako le nako fa a rekisitse dithoto tsa gagwe go lebelelwe gore ke bokae, mme percentage nngwe e bo e tsena mo letloleng la setšhaba sa kgaolo eo.
Mr Speaker, batho fa ba tshela sentle ka nako eo, ba sena sepe se se ba kgoreletsang, mme e bo e re fa go tla ditlhabololo ba dumalana le Puso gore re a di amogela mme re ka suta.

Go botlhokwa gore kwa morago batho ba, re se ka ra bona ba fetogile bahumanegi.

Re se ka ra ba bona ba humanegisitswe ke gore ba amogetse gore moepo o o tshwanang le o, ke wa Batswana botlhe mo lefatsheng la Botswana.

Re ba bone ba lakasela, ba itumela, ba tshela sentle, mebereko ba e bona.
Fa ba bona mebereko jaana, ditiro tsa bone tse ba di kopanetseng di nne teng di supege.

Go tlhabisa ditlhong; ke ne ke utlwa Tona a bua gore bonnyennyane jo ba bo ntshang to sponsor, le ene o a bua gore ke bonnyennyane.

Ga ke itse gore a bonnyennyane o raya like they sponsor football games and what a view.

Ga re bue ka madi a manoko, re bua ka madi.

Ba dira matshebetshebe a madi.


Gope kwa go nang le mine, a o kopanetswe ke Goromente kgotsa Goromente ga a na seabe mo teng, se se buiwang ke mosutisi ke gore dithoto tse di epilweng fa di rekisiwa, a go nne le lemmenyana le le ka yang kwa bathong.

28 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion Mr Speaker, ke dumela e tlaabo e le tshimologo jaaka a supile.

Ga ke na go tsena mo go tse dingwe, ke batla go itebaganya le mine.
Re dumela gore jaaka re le fa re le badira melao, jaaka Honourable Motaosane a kile a supa gore ke mogopolo o montle, a e re fa go ntse jaana, re nne mowa mongwefela.

Re lebeletse gore batho ba dikgaolo tse di amilweng, ba itshokile.

They have sacrificed a lot and they continue to do so gore sacrifices tsa bone di ba tswele mosola.
Le fa e le gore ga ba ka ke ba nna bahumi, mme e re fa ba ntse foo, e bo ba ntsha dihuba ba supa gore le rona re thusitse lefatshe la Botswana, e bile ke fa re a thusega Mr Speaker.

Ke selo sa botlhokwa thata gore fa o le mong wa motse, o na le moeng kgotsa motho a tla go kopa boroko mo go wena, a itshware sentle.

Go na le Setswana se se reng, “moeng goroga dijo di bonale.” Fa e le gore ke se tlhaloganya sentle, e tlaare moagisanyi a goroga, o bo o mo fa bontlha bongwe o re nna foo.
Fa a simolola a go senyetsa sengwe le sengwe, a go tsenyetsa modumo, leruo la gago le timela, matlo a gago a thubiwa, golo mo ga se boagisanyi.

Ke go sotla motho who has hosted you mo kgaolong eo.

Re a itse gore mo lebakeng le le fetileng fa go santse go buiwa ka Bamangwato Concession Limited, re a itse gore go na le makgetho a a yang kwa go Goromente.

Mover of the Motion o kopa mo sebakeng se gore, a Goromente gompieno a akanyetse batho ba ba rweleng morwalo o o tshwereng setšhaba sa Botswana.
E ka re kamoso go buiwa, gatwe batho ba, ke bagaka ba ba itshokileng … MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Nkawana.

MR NKAWANA: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MR MOLEBATSI): Ke a go leboga Mr Speaker, e bile ke a go dumedisa.

Ke dumedisa batlotlegi mo mosong ono.

Mr Speaker, ke dumela gore o utlwile gore bakaulengwe ba ne ba bua gore BCL kwa kgaolong ya ga Molebatsi.
Boammaaruri ke jone joo gore fa go na le mongwe yo o ka buang ka go tlhaloganya Motion o, le kwa o yang teng, e ka nna nna.

Kwa ke tswang teng, ke gone kwa re boneng go na le moepo, wa ba wa tswalwa.

Bagarona ba Mmadinare ba ne ba fudusiwa ka 1971/1972, ke ba leboge.

Ba dumela gore ba sutele moepo for national interest.

Se se neng se epiwa, se ne se sologela Batswana.

Ke batla ke simolole ke leboge Rre Gobotswang go bo a tla ka Motion o.

Se a se buang ke se ke tlholang ke se bua.


Maabane when I debated Committee of Supply ya ga Tona Moagi, mafoko a me a ne a rialo.

Ke itse gore le Leader of the Opposition (LOO) o ne a nja ditshego a re, “ao!

o raya gore o batla CSR fela,” ke mafoko a me.

Ke mo leboge Batswana ba ntheeditse ka gore boammaaruri ke jone joo.

Fa go nna le moepo, batho ba a fudisiwa.

It disrupts life but go dirwa for the benefit of the whole nation.
Mma ke riane ke re, Motlotlegi Gobotswang o a nkgakgamatsa ka gore, maloba fela jaana ka July, o fetisitse molao o o buang exactly gone mo.

Re batla gore dikompone tse di dirang ditirelo mo lefatsheng la rona, di tlhokomele batho kwa di dirang ditirelo teng.

Palamente e e fetisitse molao wa Economic Inclusion Act o mo Clause 29 e e buang ka social upliftment programmes; go tsholetsa matshelo a batho.

O bo o bua gore, ke kopa go nopola molao wa teng Mr Speaker… MR SPEAKER: Please do.
MR MOLEBATSI: Section 29 (3) wa re, “a private sector enterprise shall devote part of its profits for corporate social investment of communities comprising of disadvantaged.” Molao o, o ne o fetisiwa ke Rre Gobotswang maloba jaana.

Rre Gobotswang a o ka boa gape letsatsi leno a batla go tlisa molao o mongwe fa godimo ga one o?

Molao o o araba sone se Rre Gobotswang a se buang.

Ke sone se ke simololang ke mo leboge gore … HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mdala o lebetse.

MR MOLEBATSI: Gongwe o lebetse.


Mr Speaker, ga ke batle go tsenelela thata mo go reng re amegile go le kae ke moepo wa BCL re le ba Mmadinare.

Re amegile rra.

Ke sone se o bonang Puso e tlile ka molao o. E o tsentse mo Economic Inclusion Act.

Ke batla go ema gone fa.

Ke go lebogele gore o re gakolola thata le Batswana gore molao o teng.

Se ke ka se kopang ke gore a re emiseng debate gone fa.

Se Rre Gobotswang a se batlang se teng.

Puso is providing for it.


Tota re tlaabo re tshameka ka nako ya Puso fa re kare re tlaa tlhola re bua selo se se teng.

Rre Gobotswang, molao o, o o fetisitse maloba.

Re mo a kgole gore o ne a le teng fa re o fetisa.

Palamente e, e o fetisitse.

Palamente ga se gore e na le nako e ntsi e e ka fetisang dilo ya ba ya … MR TSOGWANE: On a point of clarification.

O re thuse Rre Molebatsi, ke dumalana thata le gore molao o teng, o fetisiwe ke Palamente.
O a itse gore fa re le Palamente jaana, e a re re tlhopha bangwe ba tlhophe “no.” Ga se gore mo molaong o o re o fetisitseng o o tshwanang le wa ga gagwe, o ne a tlhopha “no.” Gongwe 29 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion ke sone se a batlang e nna wa gagwe, e sa nne o re o fetisitseng, ntswa o dira sone se a se batlang.
Re ye go leba the records, gongwe ke sone se se mo lebaditseng ka gore gantsinyana ba tlhopha “no” ba ganana le tse di tlhamaletseng.

MR MOLEBATSI: Ke a leboga Leader of the House.

O ka bo a dirile gore re ganane le molao o, ka gore wa se a se batlang re o fetisitse.

O ka bo a tlile ka se sele e seng go thatlhaganyetsa molao mo godimo ga o mongwe.

OF MINISTER ASSISTANT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MS MONNAKGOTLA): On a point of elucidation.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Ke leboge Motlotlegi Molebatsi le Vice President (VP).

Motlotlegi, molao o o teng mo Botswana, e bile batho ba meepo ba a o dira.

Ke ne ke le kwa Mahotshwane, ba agile clinic le police teng, ba a dira.

Fela jaaka Motlotlegi VP a bua, batho ba meepo rra, ba direla mafelo a a gaufi le bone.

Le gompieno jaana, bone ba mine wa Jwaneng, ba ntshitse madi a a kanang ka 5 million gore batho ba kwa Mahotshwane, ba ye go epelwa sediba.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Sediba ka 5 million?


HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le nna ke gakgametse, sediba sa 5 million?

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Re santse re kopanya ditlhogo le Water Utilities gore metsi a a kwa Mahotshwane a mantsi ale ka gore ba ba ntshitse bokana, ba thusitse Puso, ba latlhetse, budget e after 1st April, re ya go dira jang gore metsi a kgone go gokelwa.

Ba a dira rra batho ba meepo.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR MOLEBATSI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Ke bue le bone bagarona kwa Mmadinare, ba ba amegileng thata gone fa, se Rre Gobotswang a se buang ga se gore re a se gana.

Se re se buang ke gore re setse re eme ka dinao, re bone phatlha e re e baakanyang gore re e tsentse mo molaong wa Economic Inclusion.

Kwa regulations ke gone kwa e leng gore gongwe fa ba tsepama mo go tsone, ba beye seelo baitseanape.

Molao o teng bagaetsho, Tautona o o fetisitse, o o saenne.
MR MOLEBATSI: O ne o sa reetsa, ke kopa to quote Mr Speaker gape a utlwe.

MR SPEAKER: Please do.


MR MOLEBATSI: Mr Speaker, mo Section 29 ya Economic Inclusion Act 2021 ya re, “a private sector enterprise shall devote part of its profit to corporate social investment of communities comprising of disadvantaged and targeted citizens.” Se e se buang ke gore fa batho ba epa gone mo communities around there, ka molao jaanong ba a tlamega gore ba tshwanetse go tlhokomela these communities, segolobogolo re itebagantse le ba ba disadvantaged, e ka nna banana, bomme le banalebogole.
Ke sone se molao o se buang, mme o tsepame, ke sone se re se batlang.

Ke sone se ke dumelang gore bagarona ba ba re tlhophileng, Batswana ba a se batla jaanong.

Go ne go ntse go se ka fa molaong, go ne go itirelwa fela go tswa mo go reng they choose to do or not.

Jaanong go ka fa molaong, mme re bua le bone, ba Premium Nickel Resources (PNR) re buile le bone re a ba gakolola, le melao re a ba supegetsa gore ba bone gore go nne jalo.
Mr Speaker, ke ne ke kopa gore a re emiseng puisanyo ya rona gone fa ka gore tota se se batliwang se teng.

Mme ke leboge Rre Gobotswang.

Re emise ka go mo leboga gore a bo a re gakolola gore go na le molao o o rialong.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR HIKUAMA (NGAMI): Ke a leboga Honourable Speaker.

Ke simolole ka gore ke ema Tshutiso nokeng, e bile ke lebogela mafoko a a buiwang le go gakolola gore molao o teng ka fa Honourable Molebatsi Molebatsi a buang ka teng.
Go botlhokwa gore re gatelele ka gore go tlile Tshutiso mo Palamenteng e e kopang selo se to be pronounced, se lebege se tlhaloganyesega gore rotlhe re a dumalana, re tshwanetse go nna le molao one o. Fa re dumalana, ga go na ka fa re ka o ganang ka teng, re bo re re re a o reject.

Fa e le gore rotlhe re a dumalana, re bona spirit e le sone se se mo melaong ya rona le dikakanyo tsa rona, re tshwanetse go o atla o bo o feta.

Ke sone se ke neng ke re gongwe ke tshwaele jalo.

MR MMOLOTSI: Clarification.


Thank you very much.

Kana o itse gore gongwe go ne go ka nna botokanyana Honourable Molebatsi, fa o ne o kare jaaka o ntse o re molao o teng, o bo o o bala, o o nopola.

Re tle re kgone go itse gore wa re ke section mang ya molao o o o buang, kana o kope Mme Monnakgotla… Ke supe gore ke boammaaruri gore meepo e tsaya mafelo a batho ba tshelelang mo go one.
E tsaya mafelo a temothuo jaaka fa ke ka ntsha sekai sa moepo wa Khoemacau, o o tsereng dipolase tsa batho ba ba neng ba tshelela mo mafelong one ao, e le dipolase e se meraka fela.

Gompieno their livelihood patterns di 30 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion fetogile ka fa ba neng ba tshela ka teng, ga ba itse gore ba ka tshela kae.
Go tshwanetse go nne le sengwe se se busetsang botshelo jwa bone mo seemong gore se se ka sa wela kwa tlase.

Ga ke dumele gore go na le ba ba eletsang gore fa o direla setšhaba sengwe, o bo o destroy botshelo jwa ba o ba fitlhelang ba le foo.

Ga ke dumele gore ke yone keletso ya mongwe le mongwe, keletso ya mongwe le mongwe ke gore fa go na le ditswammung mo lefelong, re fitlhela batho ba tshela botoka foo, ba tswelele ba tshele botoka kwa ba yang teng, ba se ka ba amiwa ke se.
Ke sone se ke dumalanang le Tshutiso e gore e ne e akantswe sentle, ke motho yo o akanyang sentle, yo o nang le dikakanyo le go utlwela batho ba ga bone botlhoko.

E le Mopalamente e le ruri yo o tshwenyegileng ka matshelo a batho.

MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Clarification.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Thank you very much Honourable Hikuama.

Nnyaa, ke gore ke ne ke utlwa o consider gore go na le molao o o buang ka golo mo, mme o bo o re re dire molao o mosha fa godimo ga o o dumalanang gore o teng.
Jaanong e ne e kare e a ntsietsa gone foo gore what would be the purpose of enacting a new legislation on something that is already covered by an existing legislation?

Ke a leboga.

MR HIKUAMA: Ke a leboga Honourable Healy.

Motion fa o buiwa, ga go na molao gone fa re buang teng, re bua ka se re dumalanang gore go tshwanetse go nna le molao.

Fa e le gore molao o teng, maikutlo le Tshutiso re tshwanetse go e atla, ke eng re tshwanetse go e gana?
Fa re dira jaana, ga re dire molao, re dumalana gore se se batliwang se botlhokwa, ba rotlhe.

Ke eng re tshwanetse go gana kopo e re reng e botlhokwa gore go nne jalo?

Ke sone se ke reng, ga ke bone bothata jwa Tshutiso ka rotlhe re a dumalana gore Tshutiso e siame, ke gore fela re e atle, re bo re tswelela ka tse dingwe.

MR LEUWE: Clarification.

Thank you Mr Speaker.


Ke botse gore Honourable Hikuama, ka re dumela gore mogopolo o o teng, Palamente e o fetisitse, e dumetse gore go ye go dirwa jalo, a motlotlegi a re re boe re beye molao o mongwe fa godimo ga o mongwe o re o fetisitseng re le Palamente?

Kgotsa re ye go gatelela gore one o re neng re o fetisa re le Palamente, o ye go diragadiwa?

Thank you Mr Speaker, thank you Carter.

MR HIKUAMA: O bona motho yo o akanyang sentle, ke yo o buang jaaka wena jaana.
Se se buiwang ke go gatelela gore fa e le gore molao ole o teng, a re ye go o gatelela, re o diragatse.

Batswana gompieno ba itse gore molao o teng, le dikompone tse di tlang di epa, di itse gore molao oo o teng, e bile o raya tsone, ba itlame mo go se se batlang go dirwa.

Ke sone se ke batlang go se gatelela Honourable Leuwe.

Mongwe o ne a botsa go ntse go tsweletswe, gore ke eng re ka target meepo fela kwa ntle ga dikompone tse dingwe tse di gwebang mo lefatsheng la Botswana.
Go botlhokwa go lemoga gore kana dikgwebo tse dingwe tse di dirwang mo lefatsheng la Botswana, ga di nke di sutisa batho e bile ga di nke di affect matshelo a batho mo go lekanang le ka fa meepo e amang matshelo a batho ba e ba fitlhelang foo ka teng.

Meepo affects matshelo a batho ka bokete jo bo kwa godimo.

E bile e tlogela locals ka mafuti le dithotobolo tsa mebu, le gore le gone vegetation ya foo it gets affected so much that it does not support botshelo jaaka e ne e bo fitlhetse ka teng.
Ke sone se ke nang le tshepho kana tumelo ya gore e maleba, re tshwanetse ra dumalana le Tshutiso e. Fa o ka tsaya sekai; gompieno kwa Kgaolong ya rona ya bodibeng ya Ngami, re na le mokoti o wa Khoemacau.

Gongwe fa go ka nna le ditumalano, go patelesega gore, selo that can facilitate le go tokafatsa matshelo a batho ke eng, gongwe re bo re re go dirwe tsela that connects Toteng le Bodibeng.

Golo moo go tlaabo go tlama, go sa tswe mo komponeng ka boyone gore jaanong e batla gore e dire eng.
Yes, I do appreciate the social responsibilities tse di diragalang, tse di dirwang ke mokoti wa Khoemacau.

For example, e dirile poultry kwa Sehithwa, e tsweletse ka tse dingwe e a thusa.

E dira jaana ka go akanya ga yone, go sena sepe se se e patikang gore e dire jalo.

Ke sone se ke emang mogopolo ono nokeng gore, ke mogopolo fela o o siameng, o e bileng re tshwanetseng go o atla, ka gore ga o tshwenye ope, ga o tseele ope sepe.
Ga ke itse gore batho fa ba tenega ba bua ka Motion o ba tenegela eng, gore o tlile ka Dr Gobotswang fela?

Fa e le gore ke yone kakanyo ya rona, ke eng re tshwanetse go kukega maikutlo, re ikutlwe e kete ga se Motion o o siameng, mme re ntse re re re a o rata.

Ke mowa fela o o maswe o re sa tshwanelang go feta ka one, gore fa Motion o tla ka Leuwe, ka gore Leuwe ke wa Party ya ga Domkrag, ke tshwanetse gore ke gane fela le fa go ntse go sena mabaka a gore ke eng ke tshwanetse go gana.
Ke gane fela ka gore ke Leuwe.

Mowa o re tshwanetse go o beela kwa thoko re le batlotlegi ba Ntlo e, re bone gore se se siametseng Batswana ke eng, re se diragatse.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Simolola.

MR HIKUAMA: Rra.

31 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke re ke a utlwa, mme ke re go simologe ka fa go wena, one mowa oo.

MR HIKUAMA: Nnyaa, ke na le mowa o o siameng.


Ga ke na mowa wa lona wa bo Motaosane, ba le tlaabong le bua dilo tse di siameng go tswa fa le tshaba to vote mo go siameng, le tshaba gore gongwe le ya go kobiwa mo phathing.

Se sengwe se motho a ka se gatelelang gone fa ke gore, bagaetsho nako e tlile ya gore re dumele.

E bile jaaka Rre Molebatsi a ne a bua, re dumele, re eme gone fa, a bo re dumalana le Motion o feta, and save nako ya Palamente, re bue tse dingwe tse di tsweletseng.
Ke a leboga Honourable Speaker.

Re eme gone fa, a bo re dumalana le Motion.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… (Laughter!

)… MR BALOPI (GABORONE NORTH): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Mr Speaker, ke na le go dumela gore fa batho ba bua… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, ke sale ke tsholeditse.

MR SPEAKER: O kwa morago ga ba bangwe.

Ga ke itse gore a o ithaya o re o fa pele ga mongwe le mongwe.

MR BALOPI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Mr Speaker, tla ke simolole fela ka go supa gore Rre Gobotswang o buile jaaka mogolo, yo e reng fa go na le kgang e e builweng a bo a kgona go e iteela moroko.

Kgang e ya gagwe o ne a remeletseng mo go reng a gakolole, e bile a supe gore tota o dumalana le se se setseng se le teng.
Jaanong fa e le gore se ya go tla e le Motion, kana ka gore Motion fa o tsewa ka fa go ntseng ka teng, o a bo a raya gore e nne kakanyetso e e tlaa tlang fa o dumalana le yone, e ya go simolola e tsena mo legatong la gore e ye go dirwa e nne tsamaiso kana e nne molao.

Jaanong fa molao o setse o le teng jaaka re buile ka Section 29 Sub Section 4 of the Economic Inclusion Law, o o setseng e bile o beilwe monwana, a go raya gore re ka tsaya sebaka se le sentsi gape re ntse re bua.
Ke a itse gore pharologanyo ke bo before tax le mo go reng profits.

Dikai tsotlhe tse a di supileng Rre Gobotswang ke boammaaruri lefatshe ka bophara, jaaka a ne a supa gore ke eng a dumela gore go tshwanetse ga diragala jalo.

Jaanong o sedimoseditse Batswana gore molao o o mo tirisong, e bile o setse o saennwe ka mabaka a a neng a a supa.

Ke sone se ke batlang go dumalana le ene ka mabaka a gagwe a a supileng, gore ke eng go tlhokafala gore go nne le tsamaiso e e ntseng jaana.
Ke bo ke sa dumalane le ene gore e nne Motion, ka gore e setse e le molao.

Re tlaabo re berekela fela kwa morago e kete jaanong re ne re sa tlhaloganye gore fa re dira molao o re dira eng.

Ke mo lebogele fela gore go tshwana le fa motho a go fitlhela kwa Mahalapye o tshela petorole o mo raya o re, “ke ya Francistown,” a bo a go raya a re, o kopa gore o ye Francistown.
Gone o a bo a ntse a tsena mo moonong wa gago wa gore o dumalana le mosepele wa gago, ntswa gongwe a ne a sa itse gore a tota mme o tlaa felela kwa Bokhurutshe kwa Tonota kwa ga bo Rankamo fela kana o ya Francistown.

Ka jalo ke tsaya gore ga ka ke ra tsaya nako e ntsi Mr Speaker re bua ka molao, rona ba re dirang molao mo Palamenteng re tla go boa re o tlhatlhamolola gape teng mo Palamenteng re re o dirwe mme o ntse o dirilwe.
Ga ke itse, gore gongwe jaaka Rre Hikuama a ne a bua, fa re dumalana le one e le Motion maikaelelo e tlaabo e le eng tsala ya me Rre Hikuama?

E tlaabo e le gore fela ka gore o tlile ka Rre Gobotswang re dumalane, mme e ne e ntse e le ene gape a ne a le mo Palamenteng fa re dira molao o a dumalana le one.

Ke gakologelwa nako ya teng a ise a bo a ganetse.


Fa ke lebelela records tsa me tsa batho ba ba neng ba nna kgatlhanong le the Economic Inclusion Bill, ga go na gope fa go ntshupegetsang gore go na le mongwe yo a neng a gana molao o o rotloetsang the targeted citizens, jaaka re ne re bua.
E bile o akaretsa le gore ke eng go tshwanetse go nna jalo, gore itsholelo ya rona e gole, e akaretse melao yotlhe kana le melawana le ditsetlana tsa molao, tse di teng mo the Economic Inclusion Bill, e re e supang gore, molao o o kwadilwe, o papametse, Mothusa Tona Rre Molebatsi o setse a o badile fa pele ga Batswana.

Jaanong ke kopa gore… MR KAPINGA: Clarification Mr Speaker.
Ke re Honourable Balopi, do you realise gore the section that is being referred to in the Economic Inclusion Act e bua fela ka profits?

Kana CSR has other aspects like environmental, ethical and economic responsibility beyond philanthropic.

E le ganeletseng mo go yone ke ya philanthropic, ya to donate madi from your profits.

Do you realise CSR has other aspects other than this only one ya philanthropic that is reflected on the section e le e buang eo?
MR BALOPI: Rre Kapinga, kana fa re bua ka social responsibility initiatives jaaka o bua gore di bophara, di kgona gore go bo go remeletswe mo go reng seemo sa fa go direlwang dikgwebo teng se a senyega, kana go na le dilo dingwe tse di fetang fela gore motho a bo a ntsha bopelotlhomogi jo bo ntseng bo dirwa, jaaka Tona a ne 32 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion a bua kgantele gore bopelotlhomogi bo ntse bo dirwa.
Ga go na ope yo o ka ganelang gore botlhe bagwebi a ke ba meepo kana ba eng ba ntse ba dira bopelotlhomogi ka tsela tse di farologaneng.
Nna se se ntheileng sa re e bo e le molao o beilwe gone fa, ka ga re ise re re nne le the regulations tsa teng gore o ya go tsamaya jang, kakanyetso ya me ke tsaya gore e tlaa re fa go tla go buiwa gore go tewa eng, se ya go dirwa jang, go bo go tla go akaretsa… go epiwang teng, a gone koo ba tlaabo ba batla to deal with issues tsa environment as you were talking about, kante go tlaabo go batlwa tse e leng gore go thusiwe ka dilo dingwe tse di kgoreleditsweng mo nakong e e fetileng kante di kgorelediwa ke meepo e e gone foo.
Ke tsaya gore ka nako yone eo, go tlaa itsege, go supa bone ba ba amegileng.

Ka jalo, ka boikokobetso rraetsho Rre Gobotswang... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke kopa tlhaloso.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke kopa tlhaloso.

MR BALOPI: Ga ke itse gore a ke utlwa sentle…rra MR BALOPI: Ee Rre Seleshando, go bo go tsena Rre Molebatsi.

Le riana ka bonako ka gore e a wela.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke ne ke re ke kopa tlhaloso.

MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR MOLAO): Ke a leboga Honourable Member, ke a leboga Mr Speaker.
Tota ke ne ke batla go gatelela mo go yone e ya part 29, 3, 4, (a), (b), (c) gore fa o tsaya mafoko fa gongwe a Rre Kapinga a a buang, ke gore at (c) e bua gore, “kompone eo or industry eo should increase outsourcing of maintenance activities to targeted citizens of the prescribed locality whereby none compliance shall attract penalties,” gore fa e le gore ga ba dire then there will penalties.
E bo kwa go (b) e bua gore, “promote community based targeted citizen contractors through skills and technology transfer.

Kana gone fa ga e reye gore fa go na le some environmental issues tse e leng gore konteraka e ka tswa e le teng, ga e kganele e re you cannot deal with environmental issues tse di teng.
Ke gore it is broad, e tsenya sengwe le sengwe se e leng gore a certain locality e e foo, go ya ka fa ke e tlhaloganyang ka teng will be covered, go tswa fela mo goreng community eo e batla eng at that particular point in time.

Ke tsaya gore selo se covers adequately se Rre Kapinga a se buang.

Ga ke itse gore ene o e tlhaloganya jang honourable.

MR BALOPI: Ke e tlhaloganya fela jaaka o bua.


Ke sone se ke neng ke remeletse mo goreng Rre Gobotswang, dintlha tse a di tsisitseng fa re setse re tsena mo ditsamaisong, ke gore go na le ditshetlana tse di go supetsang gore re raya jang.

Ke dilo tse re itseng gore fa molao o dirwa, go ya go boa go dirwa le tse di yang go kgona go supegetsa batho tota gore tsa reng.

Karolo e o satswang go bua ka yone Honourable Molao, e supa ka bophara e bile ka botlalo e sa belaetse gore dilo tseo di a akarediwa.
Ga di prescriptive because ga re itse gore jaaka go na le mafelo a a farologaneng kwa MR SPEAKER: Honourable Saleshando.

MR SALESHANDO: Point of clarification.


Ke ne ke kopa Rre Honourable Balopi, o ntlhalosetse gore wena fa go buiwa ka Economic Inclusion Clause kana Section 29, e bo e bua gore yone e bua ka targeted citizens, individuals ba ba boelwang, gone moo ga o kgone go go farologanya le go mo go buiwang ke Rre Gobotswang, where it is now about the entire community, not targeted to any individuals, but to the entire community?
O bona di tshwana mo go targeted individual, le mo gotweng go lebelelwa the entire community?

MR BALOPI: Nnyaa Rre Saleshando, ke tsaya ke re up to now as you are aware, fa ke ka go botsa potso ya gore are you a targeted citizen in this Economic Inclusion Bill or not, will you be able to answer me?

Let me throw it back you.

MR SALESHANDO: No one knows because ga re a e tsenya mo molaong ... (Interruptions)… is just as good as mine.
MR BALOPI: The assumption e ke nang le yone ke gore all of us as citizens re le Batswana mo dikgaolong tsa rona tse di farologaneng, ba re amiwang ke dibetso tse di ka nnang teng ka ntata ya se Rre Gobotswang a neng a bua ka sone se akareditswe mo molaong o, go raya gore we are targeted citizens and everybody who would have that or experience... MR SALESHANDO: All of us.
MR BALOPI: Yes, this is my view of targeting... HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... MR BALOPI: You do not have to senya nako Rre Saleshando... 33 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion HONOURABLE MEMBER: Elucidation Rre Balopi.

MR BALOPI: Ee rra.

ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MR MOLEBATSI): Point of elucidation.

Ke ne ke re ke tlhalose gore kana targeted citizen can be a community.
It could be community ya Basarwa... tseelang matlakala Friday mongwe le mongwe ka koloi ya matshelonyana.

Fa e ka ntsha a tender ya gore clinic ya bone ka kwa ntle e lebega e pakogile jaanong komponenyana ya Batswana e e pente.

Fa e ka ntsha balls di le 10, donating for team ya gone foo, it has fulfilled that Clause, Section 29 e e kwadilweng mo Economic inclusion Bill.

Ke eng ke bua yone kgang e Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente?
Ke gore... HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Elucidation.

MR BALOPI: ...(Inaudible)… is to find a definition of targeted citizens.

MR SPEAKER: The time allocated for Honourable Balopi is finished.

Honourable Keorapetse.

MR KEORAPETSE (SELEBI PHIKWE WEST): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamanete.

Ke gore se se lebegang se dumalanwe ke gore mogopolo mongwe le mongwe o ba kganetso ba tlang ka one, o se ka wa ganiwa fela.

Ke gore it must be trivialised as much as possible.
Se Honourable Gobotswang a buang ka sone fa, o bua ka Corporate Social Responsibility Law, molao o o comprehensive o o tletseng, o lebagane le Corporate Social Responsibility.

E bile o remeletse mo go ba ba mo dikgwebong tsa moepo kana extraction industries go bona gore ba dira jang ka communities tse ba epang mo go tsone.
Section that is being referred to ke bo Honourable Members ba Botswana Democratic Party (BDP), ga e bue se Honourable Gobotswang a se buang because yone gatwe e itebagantse le targeted citizen e e leng gore tota legale yone Honourable Letsholo o sale a e tlhalositse gore this is a vague law.

E ne e le just to tick the campaign box ya gore re ne re rile re tlaa tla ka Economic Inclusion Bill when responding to opposition fa e re go nne le Economic Empowerment Law.
So e ne e le tick the box, jaanong tlogelang to trivialise mogopolo wa ga Honourable Gobotswang.

Se a se buang ke se e leng gore le kwa United Nations (UN) ba setse ba lemogile the importance that is being played by extraction industries, meepo ka fa di dirang ka teng mo mafatsheng.

Honourable Kapinga o ne a bolelela ruri fa a bua gore kana fa re bua ka Corporate Social Responsibility, re bua ka environmental, ethical, philanthropic, economic responsibilities.
Fa o bala Clause e Honourable Molao a ntseng a remeletse mo go yone e, fa o tsaya kompone ya DeBeers kana ya Debswana, or whichever mining giant, ke gore if it can outsource just a small tender ya gore kompone ya ga Rre Molebatsi ke yone e e re MR KEORAPETSE: I yield Honourable Saleshando.

MR SALESHANDO: Point of elucidation.

A very simple elucidation Honourable Keorapetse.


Assuming the BDP was correct and I believe they are not, gore Clause e e akaretsa sone seo, a go molato gore go nne le molao specifically, o itebaganya le tsa extractive industry ka go thusa communities?

Fela jaaka go na le molao wa Constitution o o re sireletsang rotlhe against kgethololo, mme re bo re boa jaanong re nna le o o itebaganyang le bana go ba sireletsa against kgethololo, what is wrong with that?
MR KEORAPETSE: Ga gona le fa e le sepe se se wrong ka gone moo ka gore gompieno jaana kwa Ghana, ba Chamber of Mines adopted policy e e leng gore a company set aside a minimum of a dollar out of every earning per ounce of gold, e le gore o ya kwa Corporate Social Responsibility, and one per cent of their net profit to develop their communities.

It is specific, targeted, measurable, deliverable and you can measure.

That is what Honourable Gobotswang is asking for.


Jaanong lona le tabogela kwa molaong fela o o vague, o e leng gore le fa ke ka le botsa gone fa gore ke bokete jo bo kae jwa profits tsa Debswana jo bo ka tsenang in a community e e dikologileng toropo ya Jwaneng kana ya Orapa, ga gona le fa e le yo o ka mpolelelang because this law is very vague.

Honourable Gobotswang here o bua ka selo se se specific, se tlhamaletse.
Lantlha fa ke ya kwa Orapa, ke ne ka kopana le mme a rwele dikgong a bapile le moepo wa Orapa, go supa lehuma le le leng teng mo kgaolong yone eo.

Jaanong se se diregang fa Honourable Speaker, ke gore BDP e tsere tshwetso ya gore it is going to trivialise this issue.

Ga ba bue se Honourable Gobotswang a se buang.


Molao o ba o buang ba ntse ba re re o fetisitse o, ga o bue se Honourable Gobotswang a se buang ka gore it does not address environmental, ethical and economic 34 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion responsibilities.

Fa e le sengwe o ka tswa e le gore it addresses philanthropic responsibility, mme le gone ga gona le fa e le targets tsa gore gatwe go diragala eng.
Ka di 1 tsa April 2014, India became the first... MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Keorapetse.

MR KEORAPETSE: ...to legally migrate Corporate Social Responsibility.

That is what Honourable Gobotswang is looking for.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Honourable Keorapetse, the time is gone, you are left with five minutes, 25 seconds.

It is now 12:30, may I call upon the Leader of the House, the Vice President, to move a Motion of adjournment.
MOTION ADJOURNMENT LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Mr Speaker, as you have ordered, since we have exhausted the business on today’s Order Paper, I move that this House do now adjourn.

Ba tlogele go timetsa Dr Gobotswang ba bangwe ba.

Question put and agreed to.
The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 12:31 p.m. until Monday 14th March, 2022 at 2:00 p.m. 35 Hansard No 205Friday 11th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion HANSARD RECORDERS Mr T. Gaodumelwe, Mr T. Monakwe, Ms T. Kebonang HANSARD REPORTERS Mr M. Buti, Ms Z. Molemi, Mr J. Samunzala, Ms N. Selebogo, Ms A. Ramadi, Ms D. Thibedi, Ms G. Baotsi HANSARD EDITORS Ms K. Nyanga, Ms C. Chonga, Mr K. Goeme, Ms G. Phatedi, Ms B. Malokwane, Mr A. Mokopakgosi, Ms O. Nkatswe, Ms G. Lekopanye, Ms T. Mokhure, Ms B. Ratshipa LAYOUT DESIGNERS Mr B.
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