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VOTES AND PROCEEDINGS OF THE FOURTEENTH PARLIAMENT OF SINGAPORE _________________ First Session _________________ TUESDAY, 7 FEBRUARY 2023 1.30 pm PRESENT: 1 No.

82 Mr SPEAKER (Mr Tan Chuan-Jin (Marine Parade)).

Mr ABDUL SAMAD (Nominated Member).

Ms JANET ANG (Nominated Member).

Mr ANG WEI NENG (West Coast).

Mr BAEY YAM KENG (Tampines), Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Sustainability and the Environment and Ministry of Transport.

Mr CHAN CHUN SING (Tanjong Pagar), Minister for Education.
Miss CHERYL CHAN WEI LING (East Coast).

Mr MARK CHAY (Nominated Member).

Mr CHEE HONG TAT (Bishan-Toa Payoh), Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Finance and Ministry of Transport.

Mr CHENG HSING YAO (Nominated Member).

Miss CHENG LI HUI (Tampines).

Mr EDWARD CHIA BING HUI (Holland-Bukit Timah).

Mr CHONG KEE HIONG (Bishan-Toa Payoh).

Mr DESMOND CHOO (Tampines).


Mr ERIC CHUA (Tanjong Pagar) Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth and Ministry of Social and Family Development.

Mr CHUA KHENG WEE LOUIS (Sengkang).

Mr DARRYL DAVID (Ang Mo Kio).

Mr CHRISTOPHER DE SOUZA (Holland-Bukit Timah), Deputy Speaker.

Ms FOO MEE HAR (West Coast).

Ms GRACE FU HAI YIEN (Yuhua), Minister for Sustainability and the Environment.

Mr GAN KIM YONG (Chua Chu Kang), Minister for Trade and Industry.
Ms GAN SIOW HUANG (Marymount), Minister of State, Ministry of Education and Ministry of Manpower.

No.

82 7 FEBRUARY 2023 2 Mr GAN THIAM POH (Ang Mo Kio).

Mr GERALD GIAM YEAN SONG (Aljunied).

Mr DERRICK GOH (Nee Soon).

Ms HE TING RU (Sengkang).

Mr HENG CHEE HOW (Jalan Besar), Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Defence.

Mr HENG SWEE KEAT (East Coast), Deputy Prime Minister and Coordinating Minister for Economic Policies.

Prof HOON HIAN TECK (Nominated Member).

Mr SHAWN HUANG WEI ZHONG (Jurong).


Ms INDRANEE RAJAH (Tanjong Pagar), Minister, Prime Minister's Office, Second Minister for Finance, Second Minister for National Development and Leader of the House.

Dr JANIL PUTHUCHEARY (Pasir Ris-Punggol), Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Communications and Information and Ministry of Health and Government Whip.

Dr AMY KHOR LEAN SUAN (Hong Kah North), Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Sustainability and the Environment and Ministry of Transport.
Dr KOH POH KOON (Tampines), Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Manpower and Ministry of Sustainability and the Environment.

Mr KWEK HIAN CHUAN HENRY (Kebun Baru).

Mr DESMOND LEE (West Coast), Minister for National Development and Minister-in-charge of Social Services Integration.

Mr LEE HSIEN LOONG (Ang Mo Kio), Prime Minister.

Mr LEONG MUN WAI (Non-Constituency Member).

Mr LIANG ENG HWA (Bukit Panjang).

Mr LIM BIOW CHUAN (Mountbatten).

Assoc Prof JAMUS JEROME LIM (Sengkang).


Ms SYLVIA LIM (Aljunied).

Dr LIM WEE KIAK (Sembawang).

Ms LOW YEN LING (Chua Chu Kang), Minister of State, Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth and Ministry of Trade and Industry.

Ms MARIAM JAAFAR (Sembawang).

Mr MASAGOS ZULKIFLI B M M (Tampines), Minister for Social and Family Development, Second Minister for Health and Minister-in-charge of Muslim Affairs.
Dr MOHAMAD MALIKI BIN OSMAN (East Coast), Minister, Prime Minister's Office, Second Minister for Education and Second Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Mr MOHD FAHMI BIN ALIMAN (Marine Parade).

Mr MUHAMAD FAISAL ABDUL MANAP (Aljunied).

Assoc Prof Dr MUHAMMAD FAISHAL IBRAHIM (Nee Soon), Minister of State, Ministry of Home Affairs and Ministry of National Development.

No.

82 7 FEBRUARY 2023 3 Mr MURALI PILLAI (Bukit Batok).

Ms NADIA AHMAD SAMDIN (Ang Mo Kio).


Dr NG ENG HEN (Bishan-Toa Payoh), Minister for Defence.

Ms NG LING LING (Ang Mo Kio).

Mr LOUIS NG KOK KWANG (Nee Soon).

Miss RACHEL ONG (West Coast).

Mr ONG YE KUNG (Sembawang), Minister for Health.

Ms JOAN PEREIRA (Tanjong Pagar).

Mr LEON PERERA (Aljunied).

Ms DENISE PHUA LAY PENG (Jalan Besar).

Ms HAZEL POA (Non-Constituency Member).

Ms POH LI SAN (Sembawang).

Mr PRITAM SINGH (Aljunied), Leader of the Opposition.
Ms RAHAYU MAHZAM (Jurong), Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Health and Ministry of Law.

Mr SAKTIANDI SUPAAT (Bishan-Toa Payoh).

Mr SEAH KIAN PENG (Marine Parade).

Dr SHAHIRA ABDULLAH (Nominated Member).

Mr K SHANMUGAM (Nee Soon), Minister for Home Affairs and Minister for Law.

Mr SHARAEL TAHA (Pasir Ris-Punggol).

Ms SIM ANN (Holland-Bukit Timah), Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Ministry of National Development and Deputy Government Whip.
Mr SITOH YIH PIN (Potong Pasir).

Ms HANY SOH (Marsiling-Yew Tee).

Ms SUN XUELING (Punggol West), Minister of State, Ministry of Home Affairs and Ministry of Social and Family Development.

Mr ALVIN TAN (Tanjong Pagar), Minister of State, Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth and Ministry of Trade and Industry.

Ms CARRIE TAN (Nee Soon).

Mr DENNIS TAN LIP FONG (Hougang).

Mr DESMOND TAN (Pasir Ris-Punggol), Minister of State, Prime Minister's Office.
Ms JESSICA TAN SOON NEO (East Coast), Deputy Speaker.

Mr TAN KIAT HOW (East Coast), Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Communications and Information and Ministry of National Development.

Dr TAN SEE LENG (Marine Parade), Minister for Manpower and Second Minister for Trade and Industry.

Dr TAN WU MENG (Jurong).

No.

82 7 FEBRUARY 2023 4 Mr PATRICK TAY TECK GUAN (Pioneer).

Mr TEO CHEE HEAN (Pasir Ris-Punggol), Senior Minister and Coordinating Minister for National Security.
Mrs JOSEPHINE TEO (Jalan Besar), Minister for Communications and Information and Second Minister for Home Affairs.

Mr RAJ JOSHUA THOMAS (Nominated Member).

Ms TIN PEI LING (MacPherson).

Mr VIKRAM NAIR (Sembawang).

Dr VIVIAN BALAKRISHNAN (Holland-Bukit Timah), Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Dr WAN RIZAL (Jalan Besar).

Mr DON WEE (Chua Chu Kang).

Mr LAWRENCE WONG (Marsiling-Yew Tee), Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance.

Mr XIE YAO QUAN (Jurong).

Mr ALEX YAM ZIMING (Marsiling-Yew Tee).


Ms YEO WAN LING (Pasir Ris-Punggol).

Mr YIP HON WENG (Yio Chu Kang).

Mr MELVIN YONG YIK CHYE (Radin Mas).

Mr ZAQY MOHAMAD (Marsiling-Yew Tee), Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Defence and Ministry of Manpower and Deputy Leader of the House.

Mr ZHULKARNAIN ABDUL RAHIM (Chua Chu Kang).

Mr S ISWARAN (West Coast), Minister for Transport and Minister-in-charge of Trade Relations.

ABSENT: Prof KOH LIAN PIN (Nominated Member).

Dr TAN YIA SWAM (Nominated Member).


Mr THARMAN SHANMUGARATNAM (Jurong), Senior Minister and Coordinating Minister for Social Policies.

Mr EDWIN TONG CHUN FAI (Marine Parade), Minister for Culture, Community and Youth and Second Minister for Law.

________________________________ No.

82 7 FEBRUARY 2023 5 Questions for Oral Answer were answered during Question Time.
Affordable and Accessible Public Housing – (Minister for National Development) – Question again proposed on the resumption of debate, "That this House affirms the importance of keeping public housing affordable and accessible while protecting the interests of current and future generations of Singaporeans, and endorses the commitment of the Government to these twin goals.".
Public Housing Policies – (Mr Leong Mun Wai) – Question again proposed on the resumption of debate, "That this House calls upon the Government to review its public housing policies in order to deliver affordable and accessible HDB flats to all Singaporeans, strengthen the owner-occupation intent of public housing, protect retirement adequacy and keep public housing inclusive for every Singaporean of each generation.".
Exempted Business – (Deputy Leader of the House) – Motion made, and Question put – Resolved, "That the proceedings on the business set down on the Order Paper for today be exempted at this day’s sitting from the provisions of Standing Order No.

2.".
2.".

Affordable and Accessible Public Housing – (Minister for National Development) – Debate resumed on Question, "That this House affirms the importance of keeping public housing affordable and accessible while protecting the interests of current and future generations of Singaporeans, and endorses the commitment of the Government to these twin goals.".
Public Housing Policies – (Mr Leong Mun Wai) – Debate resumed on Question, "That this House calls upon the Government to review its public housing policies in order to deliver affordable and accessible HDB flats to all Singaporeans, strengthen the owner-occupation intent of public housing, protect retirement adequacy and keep public housing inclusive for every Singaporean of each generation.".
Amendments proposed to the motion on Affordable and Accessible Public Housing: – In line 4, by deleting the words "endorses the commitment of the Government to" and inserting "calls on the Government to intensify its efforts to meet".

– (Mr Pritam Singh) Question proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out, be there left out.

"; Debate arising.
"; Debate arising.

Time Limit for Speeches – (Leader of the House) – (with the consent of Mr Speaker and the general assent of Members present) – Motion made, and Question put – Resolved, "That the proceedings on the item under discussion be exempted from the provisions of Standing Order No.

48(8) to remove the time limit in respect of Minister Desmond Lee’s speech.".
Affordable and Accessible Public Housing – (Minister for National Development) – Debate resumed on Question, "That this House affirms the importance of keeping public housing affordable and accessible while protecting the interests of current and future generations of Singaporeans, and endorses the commitment of the Government to these twin goals.".
Public Housing Policies – (Mr Leong Mun Wai) – Debate resumed on Question, "That this House calls upon the Government to review its public housing policies in order to deliver affordable and accessible HDB flats to all Singaporeans, strengthen the owner-occupation intent of public housing, protect retirement adequacy and keep public housing inclusive for every Singaporean of each generation.".
Amendments proposed to the motion on Affordable and Accessible Public Housing: – In line 4, by deleting the words "endorses the commitment of the Government to" and inserting "calls on the Government to intensify its efforts to meet".

– (Mr Pritam Singh) Debate resumed on Question, "That the words proposed to be left out, be there left out.".

On amendment, Question, "That the words proposed to be left out, be there left out.

", put and negatived.

No.


82 7 FEBRUARY 2023 6 7 Affordable and Accessible Public Housing – (Minister for National Development) – Question on original motion, put – a division was taken: Ayes 82, Noes 11, Abstention Nil.
Abstention Nil Ayes Noes Chua Kheng Wee, Louis Giam Yean Song, Gerald He Ting Ru Leong Mun Wai Lim, Jamus Jerome Lim, Sylvia Muhamad Faisal Abdul Manap Perera, Leon Poa, Hazel Pritam Singh Tan Lip Fong, Dennis Abdul Samad Ang, Janet Ang Wei Neng Baey Yam Keng Chan Wei Ling, Cheryl Chay, Mark Chee Hong Tat Cheng Hsing Yao Cheng Li Hui Chia Bing Hui, Edward Chong Kee Hiong Choo, Desmond Chua, Eric De Souza, Christopher Foo Mee Har Fu Hai Yien, Grace Gan Kim Yong Gan Siow Huang Gan Thiam Poh Goh, Derrick Heng Chee How Heng Swee Keat Hoon Hian Teck Huang Wei Zhong, Shawn Indranee Rajah Khor Lean Suan, Amy Koh Poh Koon Kwek Hian Chuan, Henry Lee, Desmond Lee Hsien Loong Liang Eng Hwa Lim Biow Chuan Lim Wee Kiak Low Yen Ling Mariam Jaafar Masagos Zulkifli B M M Mohamad Maliki Bin Osman Mohd Fahmi Bin Aliman Muhammad Faishal Ibrahim Murali Pillai Nadia Ahmad Samdin Ng Eng Hen Ng Ling Ling Ng Kok Kwang, Louis Ong, Rachel Ong Ye Kung Pereira, Joan Phua Lay Peng, Denise Poh Li San Rahayu Mahzam Raj Joshua Thomas Saktiandi Supaat Seah Kian Peng Sharael Taha Sim Ann Sitoh Yih Pin Soh, Hany No.
82 7 FEBRUARY 2023 7 Ayes - continued Sun Xueling Tan, Alvin Tan, Carrie Tan Chuan-Jin Desmond Tan Tan Soon Neo, Jessica Tan Kiat How Tan See Leng Tan Wu Meng Tay Teck Guan, Patrick Teo Chee Hean Teo, Josephine Tin Pei Ling Vikram Nair Vivian Balakrishnan Wan Rizal Wee, Don Wong, Lawrence Xie Yao Quan Yam Ziming, Alex Yeo Wan Ling Yip Hon Weng Yong Yik Chye, Melvin Zaqy Mohamad Zhulkarnain Abdul Rahim Resolved, "That this House affirms the importance of keeping public housing affordable and accessible while protecting the interests of current and future generations of Singaporeans, and endorses the commitment of the Government to these twin goals.".
8 Public Housing Policies – (Mr Leong Mun Wai) – On Question put – a division was taken: Ayes 11, Noes 82, Abstention Nil.
Ayes Noes Abstention Chua Kheng Wee, Louis Giam Yean Song, Gerald He Ting Ru Leong Mun Wai Lim, Jamus Jerome Lim, Sylvia Muhamad Faisal Abdul Manap Perera, Leon Poa, Hazel Pritam Singh Tan Lip Fong, Dennis Nil Abdul Samad Ang, Janet Ang Wei Neng Baey Yam Keng Chan Wei Ling, Cheryl Chay, Mark Chee Hong Tat Cheng Hsing Yao Cheng Li Hui Chia Bing Hui, Edward Chong Kee Hiong Choo, Desmond Chua, Eric De Souza, Christopher Foo Mee Har Fu Hai Yien, Grace Gan Kim Yong Gan Siow Huang Gan Thiam Poh Goh, Derrick Heng Chee How Heng Swee Keat Hoon Hian Teck Huang Wei Zhong, Shawn Indranee Rajah No.
82 7 FEBRUARY 2023 Noes – continued 8 Khor Lean Suan, Amy Koh Poh Koon Kwek Hian Chuan, Henry Lee, Desmond Lee Hsien Loong Liang Eng Hwa Lim Biow Chuan Lim Wee Kiak Low Yen Ling Mariam Jaafar Masagos Zulkifli B M M Mohamad Maliki Bin Osman Mohd Fahmi Bin Aliman Muhammad Faishal Ibrahim Murali Pillai Nadia Ahmad Samdin Ng Eng Hen Ng Ling Ling Ng Kok Kwang, Louis Ong, Rachel Ong Ye Kung Pereira, Joan Phua Lay Peng, Denise Poh Li San Rahayu Mahzam Raj Joshua Thomas Saktiandi Supaat Seah Kian Peng Sharael Taha Sim Ann Sitoh Yih Pin Soh, Hany Sun Xueling Tan, Alvin Tan, Carrie Tan Chuan-Jin Desmond Tan Tan Soon Neo, Jessica Tan Kiat How Tan See Leng Tan Wu Meng Tay Teck Guan, Patrick Teo Chee Hean Teo, Josephine Tin Pei Ling Vikram Nair Vivian Balakrishnan Wan Rizal Wee, Don Wong, Lawrence Xie Yao Quan Yam Ziming, Alex Yeo Wan Ling Yip Hon Weng Yong Yik Chye, Melvin Zaqy Mohamad Zhulkarnain Abdul Rahim Motion accordingly negatived.
No.

82 7 FEBRUARY 2023 9 9 Adjournment – (Deputy Leader of the House) – Resolved, "That Parliament do now adjourn to a date to be fixed.".

Adjourned at 11.08 pm TAN CHUAN-JIN, Speaker Parliament stands adjourned to a date to be fixed.

MEMORANDUM