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8 Friday 28th April, 1961 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES DEWAN RA'AYAT (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES) OFFICIAL REPORT CONTENTS THE DEVELOPMENT ESTIMATES, 1961- Heads 130 to 135 [Col. 775] Heads 136 to 140, 142 and 144 [Col. 827) Heads 145 to 149 [Col. 863] EXEMPTED BUSINESS (Motion) [Col. 858] Dl·CHETAK Dl·JABATAN CHETAK.
KERAJAAN OLEH THOR BENG CHONG, PEMANGKU PENCHETAK KERAJAAN PERSEKUTUAN TANAH MELAYU 1962 Barga: $1 FEDERATION OF MALAY A DEWAN RA'AYAT (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES) Official Report Third Session of the First Dewan Ra'ayat Friday, 28th April, 1961 The House met at half-past Nine o'clock a.m.

The Honourable Mr. Speaker, DATO' HAn: M OHAM ED NOAH BIN OMAR, PRESENT: S.P.M.J., D.P.M.B., J.P.

P.I.S., the Prime Minister of External Affairs, Y.T.M.

TUNKu ABDUL RAHMAN PuTRA AL-HAJ.

K.o.M.

(Kuala Kcdah).


and Minister " " the Deputy Prime Minister, Minister DATO' HUSSAIN, S.M.N.

(Pekan).

of Rural Development, Minister of Defence and TUN ABDUL RAZ AK BIN the Minister of Internal Security and Minister of the DATO' DR. ISMAIL BIN DATO' HAJI ABDUL Interior, RAHMAN, P.M.N.

(Johor Timor).

of Finance, the Minister Tengah).

ENCHE' TAN SIEW SIN, J.P. (Malacca the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications, DATO' v. T. SAMBANTHAN, P.M.N.

(Sungei Siput).
(Sungei Siput).

.. the Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives, ENCHE' ABDUL Aziz BIN ISHAK (Kuala Langat).

the Minister of Transport, ENCHE' SARDO N BIN HAJI JUBIR (Pontian Utara).

the Minister of Health and Social Welfare, DATO' ONG YOKE LIN, P.M.N.

(Ulu Selangor).

the Minister of Commerce and Industry, ENCHE' MOHAMED KHIR BIN JoHARI (Kedah Tengah).

the Minister of Labour, ENCHE' BAHAMAN BIN SAMSUDIN (Kuala Pilah).
the Assistant Minister of Education, KHAN BIN HA11 SAKHAWAT Au KHAN, J.M.N., J.P. (Batang Padang) .

.

the Assistant Minister of Rural Development, ABDUL KHALID BIN AWANG OSMAN (Kota Star Utara).

ENCHE' ABDUL HAMID TUAN HAJ1 .. the Assistant Minister of Commerce and Industry, ENCHE' CHEAH THEAM SWEE (Bukit Bintaqg).

.. the Assistant Minister of Labour, ENCHE' v. MANICKA· VASAGAM, J.M.N., P.J.K.

(Klang).

Minister of the Interior, the Assistant ENCHE' MOHAMED ISMA IL BIN M OHAME D YUSOF (Jerai).
ENCHE' ABDUL GHANI BIN ISHAIC, A.M.N.

(Malacca Utara).

771 28 APRIL 1961 The Honourable ENCHE' ABDUL RAUF BIN A. RAHMAN (Krian Laut).

ENCHE' ABDUL SAMAD BIN OSMAN (Sungei Patani).

TUAN HAJI ABDULLAH BIN .HAJI ABDUL RAOF (Kuala Kangsar).

TUAN HAJI ABDULLAH BIN HAJI MOHD.

SALLEH, A.M.N., P.I.s.

(Segamat Utara).

TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN ABDULLAH (Kota Bharu Hilir).

ENCHE' AHMAD BIN .AR.SHAD, A.M.N.

(Muar Utara).

ENCHE' AHMAD BOESTAMAM (Setapak).

ENCHE' AHMAD BIN MOHAMED SHAH, s.M.J.


(Johore Bham Barat).

TUAN HAJJ AHMAD BIN SAAID (Seberang Utara).

ENCHE' AHMAD BIN HAJI YusoF, P.J.K.

(Krian Darat).

TUAN HAJI AZAHARI BIN HAJI IBRAHIM (Kubang Pasu Barat}.

ENCHE' AZIZ BIN ISHAK (Muar Dalam).

DR. BURHA NUDDIN BIN MOHD.

NOOR (Besut).

ENCHE' CHAN SIANG SUN (Bentong).

ENCHE' CHAN SWEE Ho (Ulu Kinta).

ENCHE' CHAN y OON ONN (Kampar).

ENCHE' v. DAVID (Bungsar).

DATIN FATIMAH BINTI HAJJ HASHIM, P.M.N.

(Jitra-Padang Terap).


ENCHE' GEH CHONG KEAT (Penang Utara).

BNCHE' HAMZAH BIN ALANG, A.M.N.

(Kapar).

ENCHE' HANAFI BIN MOHD.

YUNUs, A.M.N.

(Kulim Utara).

ENCHE' HARUN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N.

(Baling).

ENCHE' HARUN BIN PILus (Trengganu Tengah).

TuAN HAJJ HASAN ADLI BIN HAJJ .AR.SHAD (Kuala Trengganu Utara).

TuAN HAJI HASSAN BIN HAJJ AHMAD (Tumpat).

ENCHE' HASSAN BIN MANSOR (Malacca Selatan).

ENCHE' HUSSEIN BIN To' MUDA HASSAN (Raub).

ENCHE' HUSSEIN BIN MOHD.

NOORDIN, A.M.N., P.J.K.

(Parit).


TuAN HAJI HUSSAIN RAHIMI BIN HAJJ SAMAN (Kota Bharu Hulu).

ENCHE' IBRAHIM BIN ABDUL RAHMAN (Seberang Tengah).

ENCHE' ISMAIL BIN IDRIS (Penang Selatan).

ENCHE' KANG KOCK SENG (Batu Pahat).

ENCHE' K. KARAM SINGH (Damansara).

Clrn' KHADIJAH BINTI MOHD.

SIDEK (Dungun).

ENCHE' LEE SAN CHOON (Kluang Utara).

ENCHE' LEE SIOK YEW (Sepang).

ENCHE' LIM Joo KONG (Alor Star).

ENCHE' LIM KEAN SIEW (Dato Kramat).

DR. LIM SWEE AUN, J.P. (Larut.

Se1atan).


ENCHE' LIU YOONG PENG (Rawang).

773 28 APRIL 1961 774 The Honourable ENCHE' T. MAHIMA SINGH, J.P. (Port Dickson).

ENCHE' MOHAMED ABBAS BIN AHMAD (Hilir Perak).

ENCHE' MOHAMED ASRI BIN HAJI MUDA (Pasir Puteh).

ENCHE' MOHAMED DAHARI BIN HAJI MoHD.

ALI (Kuala Selangor).

ENCHE' MOHAMED NOR BIN MOHD.

DAHAN (Ulu Perak).

DATO' MOHAMED HANIFAH BIN HAJI ABDUL GHANI, P.J.K.

(Pasir Mas Hulu).

ENCHE' MOHAMED SULONG BIN MOHD.

ALI, J.M.N.

(Lipis).


ENCHE' MOHAMED YusoF BIN MAHMUD, A.M.N.

(Temerloh).

TUAN HAJI MoKHTAR BIN HAJI ISMAIL (Perlis Selatan).

NIK MAN BIN NIK MOHAMED (Pasir Mas Hilir).

ENCHE' NG ANN TECK (Batu).

DATO' ONN BIN JA'AFAR, D.K., D.P.M.J.

(Kuala Trengganu Selatan).

ENCHE' OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH (Tanah Merah).

ENCHE' OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH (Perlis Utara).

TUAN HAJI REDZA BIN HA.Tl MOHD.

SAID (Rembau-Tampin).

ENCHE' SEAH TENG NGIAB (Muar Pantai).


ENCHE' s. P. SEENIVASAGAM TuAN SYED EsA BIN ALWEE, J.M.N., (Menglembu).

s.M.J., P.I.s.

(Batu Pahat Dalam).

TUAN SYED HASHIM BIN SYED AJAM, A.M.N., P.J.K.

(Sabak Bernam).

ENCHE' TAN CHENG BEE, J.P. (Bagan).

ENCHE' TAN PHOCK KIN (Tanjong).

ENCHE' TAN TYE CHEK (Kulim-Bandar Bahru).

DATO' TEOH CHZE CHONG, D.P.M.J., J.P. (Segamat Selatan).

ENCHE' v. VEERAPPEN (Seberang w AN MUSTAPHA BIN HAJI ALI (Kelantan WAN SULIAMAN BIN WAN TAM, P.J.K.

(Kota Star Selatan).


Selatan).

Hilir).

WAN YAHYA BIN HAJI WAN MOHAMED (Kemaman).

ENCHE' YAHYA BIN HAJI AHMAD (Bagan Datoh).

ENCHE' YEOH TAT BENG (Broas).

ENCHE' YONG Woo MING (Sitiawan).

PuAN HAJJAH ZAIN BINTI SULAIMAN, J.M.N., P.I.S.

(Pontian Sela tan).

TUAN Hur ZAKARIA BIN HAJI MOHD.

TAIB (Langat).

ENcHE' ZULKIFLEE BIN MUHAMMAD (Bachok).

The Honourable DATO' SULEIMAN BIN DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN, P.M.N.

ABSENT: (Minister without Portfolio) (Muar Selatan) (on leave).
the Minister of Education, ENCHE' ABDUL RAHMAN BIN HAJI TALIB (Kuantan).

TUAN SYED JA'AFAR BIN HASAN ALBAR, J.M.N., Assistant Minister (Johore Tenggara).

r 775 28 APRIL 1961 776 The Honourable ENCHE' CHAN CHONG WEN (Kluang Selatan).

ENCHB' CHIN SEE YIN (Seremban Timor).

ENCHE' KHONG KOK y AT (Batu Gajah) .

ENCHE' LEE SECK FUN (Tanjong Malim) .

ENCHE' MOHAMED BIN UJANO (Jelebu-Jempol).

ENCHE' QuEK KAI DONG, J.P. (Seremban Barat).

ENCHE' D. R. SEENIVASAGAM (lpoh).

ENCHE' TAJUDIN BIN ALI, PJ.:&:.


(Larut Utara) .

ENCHE' TAN KEE GAK (Bandar Malacca).

TBNGKU INDRA PETRA IBNI SULTAN IBRAHIM, P.M.N .

(Ulu Kelantan).

.. .. .. .. PRAYERS (Mr. Speaker in the Chair) MOTION THE DEVELOPMENT ESTIMATES, 1961 of Order read for resumption Esti­ of the Development consideration mates, 1961 (Comma nd 18 of 1961), in Committee (27th April, 1961).

of the whole House House immediately resolved itself into Committee.
(Mr. Speaker in the Chair) Debate resumed on Question, for Heads "That the sum of $39,103,636 stand part of the 130 to 135 inclusive Development Estimates."

Question again proposed.

to Members Sir, Head 133, Honourable Assistance The Minister of Agriculture and Co­ operatives (Enche� Abdul Aziz bin Ishak): Mr. Speaker, sub-head 8, Financial Fishing Industry, will remember that funds were pro· vided iJnder the First Year Plan to assist fishermen in the purchase of boats and fishing gear.
The improved first phase mented in the East Coast area from Tumpat in the north to south and later the area was extended southwards $1.25 million was loaned under this in these areas up Scheme to fishermen to the end of 1960.

By the use of these .improved boats and gear and.

better fishing techniques, the fishermen have been able to get better catches; to Mersing.

A sum of of the Scheme Kuantan in the was imple­ But building catches.
delay in getting scheme and consequently the buildings and storage depots, it has not the to implement co-operative due to the unavoidable the Canadian Government refrigeration plants and storage yet been possible necessary comprehensive marketing the fishermen are not yet able to get the maximum benefit out of their increased glad I am, however.
to report to the House that the first lot of fabricated materials given by the Canadian Government have and that the work arrived in Singapore for the for constructing refrigeration plants depots will commence shortly.

A Canadian Engineer will arrive very soon to assist in the setting machinery.

towards the setting hensive marketing at $700.000.

This money will be utilised for the acquisition construction refrigeration of quarters watchmen, port and other incidental expenses.
These funds have been included for this year.

Estimates Other than the proposals of concrete bases for the plants and the construction for the technicians The Federation's up of this compre· and inland trans­ up of the plants and scheme is estimated ocean freight, of sites, in the in the share requests from the fishermen East Coast.

this Ministry has planned the extension Assis· of the Financial tance Scheme to fishermen on the West Coast.
There have already been widespread for such assistance several of concentrating limited operative already at financial during the past months, but owing to the need the efforts of the of Co­ staff • of the Division the schemes on the hand and on preparing Development on the schemes assistance 777 28 APRIL 1961 778 be brought to a stand-still propelled barrier" of having no Further development equipment of ocean-going Thus the development boats and the mechanically inshore waters is up to 40 miles are fully exploited.
lies in oceanic fishing, but here we come up immediately against the "technological trained men who could navigate the ocean, carry out deep-sea fishing and maintain and service the engine and refrigeration fishing-boats.
of the fishing industry in Malaya will eventually if we do not prepare our fishermen and enable them to cross the "techno­ and thereby take part logical barrier" in fruitful schools, the new ocean-going vessel and the scientific are being carried out by the Fisheries Division of this Ministry are all designed to enable our people to rapidly cross this barrier".

of work has been planned for the of the other technical divisions Ministry.

fishing that researches oceanic fishing.


The fisheries The same sort of programme "technological Malaya is a country rich in natural believe that and I sincerely resources with the attainment independence technological try of ours can attain a living-standard comparable to that of many of the smaller countries of a degree of this coun­ in Europe.

Sir.
Sir.

The Second Five-Year Plan has as one of its main objectives the improvement of the economic and social conditions of the rural population and the extension of the is one of forest activities development of the means of achieving this.

The main task of the Forest Division, than its most important role of pro­ tecting hill sides and water supplies during the next 5 years will be the carrying out of silvicultural work for growing new timber crops.
other to work on_ scheme for Kuala West Coast, no steps could be taken to issue such loans to these needy fishermen.

I am, however, happy report to the House that a similar financial assistance Linggi has started and that the plan· ning and the preliminary similar schemes at Kuala Sanglang, Kuala Kedah, Telok Gadong, Morib, Kelanang, Permatang and Telok Kemang on the West Coast, are now ready.
From the success of the finan· cial assistance now, I am confident that the measures already taken, and to be taken by this Ministry, improving the economic and social conditions are on the right lines for schemes achieved up to of the fishermen.
On fish culture, the Government for those an experimental in this particular intends to establish station for the culture of prawns, cockles and oyster and it is hoped that the investigations there would provide useful information interested station will cost $112,000 pleted, and work on the construction of the experimental an expenditure this year.

Honourable Members will be to know that a 30 acre interested at $25,000 prawn pond capitalised will yield a net return of over $9,000 per year in Singapore.
fishery.

The when com· of $40,000 will begin ponds involving fitted I stressed A sum of $3,350 the importance of of minor importance.

will be required in 1961 to cover part of the cost of new engine recently vessel M. V. into the divisional Tongkol.
Honourable Members of this House will remember that in my recent speech on the 1961 Estimates of this Ministry, achieving a degree of scientific and technological ration of Malaya in common with many of the newly independent coun­ tries of the world faces great problems in its strife for a better life for its peoples.

Some of these problems are purely economic in origin but there are others which are imposed by what I would term "technological I will explain what I mean.

independence.
independence.

barrier", The Fede­ In the field of Fisheries, for example development rapidly ahead.

There are now 9,000 in this country has gone With the above programme in mind, for two-thirds of the money requested the Forest Division over the five year period is for silviculture.
provision required for siJvicultural work for the five years is $2,900,000 out of the total development expendi· ture of $5,000,000 $5,000 is required for silvicultural and from this only The total Lastly, I wish to touch on an item I now come to the Forestry Division, 779 28 APRIL 1961 780 delay work.
This is due to unavoidable in the formulation of a Federal Forest Policy, since until it is finally decided where the timber growing forest area is to be, it would be unwise to expend money for new timber crop on land which might be more economically suitable for other development pur­ poses.

species at Cameron High­ lands, Tapah Hills Forest Reserve, Pasir Puteh in Kelantan and Dungun in Trengganu.
(b) An expansion of the teak planting trials in Kedah and Perlis which are showing such promise that it may be possible those States over large areas.
to plant this tree in For a proper decision on the propor­ at of tion and the areas of the acquisition of Forest Land will not only require more basic data than are available the moment but also the acceptance a Federal Land Use Policy which would serve as a guiding policy for most of the Divisions The acquisition of such data will be of tremendous value to this country since it will help the country to know the potentially which can be made available for agriculture.

in this Ministry.
in this Ministry.

productive land area For this reclamation am asking a provision this year.

programm e I of $44,000 for It is obvious that to establish the I have just mentioned we plantation shall need access facilities.

$50,000 out of $140,000 required for the construction this year to provide roads to trial plantations blished in the land under the control of Forest Research Institute.
which have been esta­ of roads will be spent Therefore Malaya has been in the forefront of the Forest Research The staff deemed sufficient some of tropical forest research and the publications Institute are internationally well known.

But we cannot afford to stand still.

thirty years ago is no longer adequate to meet the needs of today and, even less, of those years of development which lie ahead of us.

The housing required to maintain the new staff must, however be put in hand forth­ with.
And to this end a programme of staff housing which will cost $126,000 this year has been prepared.

The testing of the timbers we pro­ duce for purpose such as low-cost housing, cheap electric power poles, production of plywood, etc., is carried out by Timber Research Laboratory.
To enable us to proceed further with our research in this field so as to enable us to know the best possible use of our local timber, additional testing equipment is required and for this purpose a sum of $180,000 is sought for in 1961.

I now come to the field of livestock.

last but by no means least.


In view of the necessity of growing more timber for future timber needs of the country and preventing the erosion which occurs rapidly in our country once the natural tree cover is removed, I have also examined the possibility of using the land which has been degraded by poor agricultural tices or by mining.
As considerable sums of Federal money have already been expended with encouraging results in the trials of tree species these which may be used to re-forest waste lands, it is proposed that those plantations should directions : be extended in two prac­ (a) An extension of the present planting trials of pine tree In the field of livestock, it can be seen that the bulk of the money requested in the 1961 Development Estimates is for increasing tion of the various_ in the rural areas.
classes of livestock the produc­ Many of us may not be aware that industry in the value of the livestock this country is worth over $230,000,000 and this industry helps to provide all (95%) of the fresh meat practically requirements for their daily diets.
In fact, you will be surprised to know that the value of products livestock and poultry produced by our farmers and sold locally is worth over $100,000,000 of the local population ______ " ______________ _ most of the ra'ayats kept 781 28 APRIL 1961 782 not only to pro· I have every con• industry can Though this is of a con­ magnitude, annually.
siderable fidence that the livestock be developed further duce more meat, milk and eggs locally to make the Federation but also to raise the standard of the ra'ayats socially.

Ministry has given priority further development industry large scale livestock rural areas.
of living and both economically With this as an objective, my for the of this primary emphasis to production in the with particular self-sufficient It is obvious that we can attain quick by tackling the smaller species for the development results of animals and birds which multiply rapidly and as such I am giving top priority class of animals.

with lesser priority, are being tackled.

is hoped, we would be able to attain our objectives Five-Year by the end of the Second At the same time, but of this Plan.
the larger animals By this method, it In fact some of the thousand birds.

larger farms produce 3,000 to 5,000 eggs daily while other farms produce 2,000 to 3,000 birds monthly for table purposes.

the ra'ayats waste they could pick.

Now to keep hundreds of day-old the establish­ farms outside to produce the table in larger numbers.
Besides encouraging ment of commercial urban areas my Ministry is also now encouraging birds for Previously 5, 10 or 15 birds each in the backyard and allowed the birds to survive on whatever it is our policy to encourage the ra'ayats chicks at a time in brooders rear them husbandry conditions.

This system is getting very popular and there are now a large number of Malay youths who produce 500 or more birds monthly for table purposes.
To encourage further, husbandry from the rural areas are being trained in poultry confidence that many more of our farmers will be indulging in large scale production and then under better such a system of poultry husbandry and I have every intensively Prior to and just immediately after since killed 100 disease.

Experience in this country for This disease which in the near future.
due to the ravages of has shown that our if given the proper training can successfully the 2nd World War, there was no poultry industry large scale poultry rearing was not a possibility Ranikhet is the most dreaded disease among poultry farmers invariably per cent of their flocks.
However, 1947, a vaccine has been produced at at Research Institute our Veterinary this Ipoh to protect the birds against disease and though in that year only 85,000 birds were vaccinated I am glad to say that in 1960 over 10,300,000 over 30,000 birds every were vaccinated This is indeed very encouraging and now every poultry farmer appreciates the value of the vaccine and no longer fears evil entering introduction ra'ayats and assistance do poultry farming on a big scale and make a comfortable living from such In fact some of the an occupation.
who have started ra'ayats on such ventures are now.

producing about 500 birds per month for the table and are able to earn a net profit of $250 to $300 a month.

In this connection, glad to say that there is at least one Honourable lative Assembly has taken an interest in poultry rearing and is finding it not only a good past time but also ·paying proposition.

a source of encouragement to others in the area to take up large scale poultry farming seriously.
With the advent of this vaccination, or working day of the needle into its body.

Member in a State Legis­ against this disease.

His lead has been the birds by the a very I am which is done free of charge, the deve­ has gradually poultry industry loped over the years.
Moreover, I am glad to say that during the last 12 t o 1 8 months the poultry industry has developed and there are now several hundreds of large farms carrying from one thousand to ten tremendously for I feel there is a great prospect our farmers in poultry production and like to see as many would, therefore, taking to poultry of them as possible This farming as a full time occupation.

to would not only give employment among our ra'ayats, youths 783 28 APRIL 1961 many in the kam.pongs but would also .
help to raise the standard of living of and also help the Federa· our ra'ayats tion to be self-sufficient and egg requirements.

in her poultry by our ra'ayats to purchase day.

However, the main setback we have in encouraging mass poultry produc­ tion in the kampongs is the lack of capital old chicks in large numbers.

To assist them in this, it is intended to ·operate a Poultry Extension a sum of $189,000 is being requested.
This money would be used for the benefit of ra'ayats Scheme for which in all States.

In the initial stages of the scheme would be encouraged ra'ayats to keep birds by the thousands for table pur· poses, and later as they gain experience, they would be encouraged to embark on egg production as well.

Part of the funds that is being made for the Poultry Extension available Scheme is also to be utilized for the development areas and the duck industry and Kelantan.
in the rural in Kedah of hatcheries The pig industry has also developed within the last very significantly 1957 and 1958, the pig months.

In industry in this country suffered a severe set back due to the illegal entry of pigs into this country particularly from Thailand.

This illegal entry of pigs caused the price of live pigs, not that of the pork sold in the markets, to drop tremendously and thus cause a large number of our fanns to close down.
However, the amendment, late 1958, to the Animal Ordinance pre· vented any further illegal importations to take place and gave a breathing space to our farmers.

But the closing down of the local farms which had already taken place encouraged the springing up of many farms across the causeway and this caused a further challenge which continued to .

exist until 1960 to our local pig industry.


the 78 4 many �arms had been closed and we were importing about 8,000 pigs monthly to meet our daily require­ ments.

The plan to rehabilitate pig industry worked very successfully and many farmers began to take seriously the old farms began to expand while other new ones were established.

day we have a number of large farms throughout the country some of which carry as many as 500 pigs and are kept under good husbandry conditions.
I understand have been established of over $70,000 each.

pig farming again.

Many of that some of these farms with a capital To­ The nett result of this rehabilitation campaign was that by the end of 1960 the pig industry was again put on a sound footing and the country became almost self-sufficient requirements.

we hardly imported any pigs from abroad for slaughter.
In fact in December 1960 in its fresh pork To achieve it is necessary for us to Now that the pig industry has again been put on a sound footing and well established develop the industry further.

this we have to produce animals which are not only prolific but also bigger and faster maturing than the local pigs.

For this purpose it is proposed to purchase further consignments breeding stock from abroad and distri· bute boars to the local farmers.
The sum requested the necessary animals fpr distribution particularly Selangor, to Johore, Malacca, this year is to purchase Perak and Penang.

of good This Ministry is confident that by these good boars and with providing the protection and encouragement given this multi-million-dollar will develop tremendously next few years and the Federation would again gain its position as an exporting industry within the country.
In 1960, plans were drawn to re· the pig industry vitalise and develop so as not only to make the Federation self-sufficient place as an exporting country.

The task was however ·a difficult one for but also to recapture its Besides paying particular attention my to develop the goat industry to develop the above two industries Ministry is also paying particular attention in this country for the goat not only provides a useful source of meat but also provides a source of income for our ra'ayats.
785 28 APRIL 1961 786 In 1960 the Federation slaughtered As a first move my Ministry is stimu­ By this scheme the ra'ayats I am glad to say of the ra'ayats to Kedah, Perlis, about 86,000 goats and more than 97 lating the interest per cent of these were locally produced.

raise more cattle by making available However, the demand for mutton is a market for their animals.
for only and I propose to encourage when there is a good demand for their tremendous more of our farmers to keep goats not products would farmers bother to in small numbers as at present but in produce more animals.

bigger numbers.

To get this into opera-that our animals from tion it is proposed to operate the Kelantan and Trengganu are now "pawah" system in a big way and finding a good market and provide the necessary stock to our ally replacing farmers.

In the "pawah" system each animals.


With this growing demand in goat b reeding for local animals our farmers are now ra'ayat interested would be given 5 to 10 goats on loans encouraged after he has built the necessary house and planted fodder.

As these Kelantan, Perlis, Trengganu and goats rePfoduce, the ra'ayat would have Malacca, there is a scarcity of cattle to return to Government a similar and buffaloes and therefore there is number of progeny as was loaned to him considerable originally.
the Government the becomes the property of the ra'ayat.

states and in Malacca there are the "pockets" where animals are scarce The Government then distributes and and in these areas too more livestock progeny received to other ra'ayats In this way many can be reared.

To assist the ra'ayats the cycle continues.

people should benefit from the scheme in these areas and particularly particularly in On return of rogeny to the cattle populations in these areas.

stock Furthermore, goat.


However, other than in Kedah, to "grow .. more animals.

Thai and Indonesian even in the four northern opportunity years to come.

to develop are gradu­ in Johore, Pahang, Selangor and Perak to grow more livestock it is intended to will get operate the "pawah" breeding schemes In all · Pahang and Selangor, th ber th h over ' amma s w i under this scheme.

However, though to keep goa ts in bigger both for cattle and buffaloes.
I ·11 be di 'b ed stn ut the opportunity numbers and after returning the first 2 ooo lot for further distribution, should b e able not only of increasing the size of the plans are to distribute their herds but also of selling the particularly ma les for slaughter.
Furthermore, this ·Negri Sembilan, system would enable my Ministry to Perak, where there is a sparse cattle educate the farmers to keep their la · animals under better husba ndry and at the same time assist on organizing marketing so that the ra'ayats would get a fair price for their products.
popu tion, yet e num s at eac State would receive would completely depend on the interest ra'ayats to develop the necessary grazing grounds for this scheme is with the I have to encourage goat being operated in conjunction the animals to the States of Johore, has been made to distribute a great admi ration for the enthusiasm and sheep bree ding on a big scale development of grazing reserves.
provision about 4,000 goats and sheep and and ability of the Kelantan ra'ayats to practically every State will benefit from rear ca ttle and as such provision has the scheme.

With each individual keeping more goats, I am confident it industry in that state.
will help to boost the earnings of our ra'ayats, more meat for our local population particularly and at the same time provide Besides increasing it is also· proposed to improve cattle, the quality of the local cattle and for this purpose Sindhi or Sindhi -cross been made to develop further the cattl e In this proposal in the urban areas.
shown by the the number of Besides concentrating on these bulls will be distributed right from the smaller animals and birds there also schemes to develop the cattle where buffaloes will be distributed industry so as to make Malaya self· Murrah or Indian buffaloes will be sufficient in this class of livestock.

placed to improve the size and quality of the schemes.

In areas are inception 787 28 APRIL 1961 788 of the animals.
Further intended to establish insemination centres of the local cattle population.

· it is also more artificial for improvement of the it is or For the proper development for the buffalo and goat industries that proper nutrition cattle, essential grazing be made available animals.

As such schemes have been drawn to develop grazing reserves in every State.
To help in the ploughing provision has been made for the purchase of implements initial work the ra'ayats would have to plant fodder grasses and fence the various reserves.

and after the and paddocks for grazing.

A low cost may housing scheme for the settlers also be included if the settlers so desire and this colony should prove to be a model.

After this colony has been established in the various states.
it is hoped to start others The establishment of such a colony further the keeping of cattle would not only enable the public to obtain good, pure milk but with grow­ ing demand for such milk would encourage and the production of more milk.

Furthermore, tity of milk produced can also be expected with the proper .

feeding and housing of the animals and in time genetical improvement could be achieved too.
an increase in the quan­ Up to now this country has only in protecting birds and so that as concentrated animals against diseases much meat and eggs can be produced locally to supply proteins for the daily diets of the human population.

ever, a very good source of protein is milk and it is now proposed to develop this industry as well.
How­ Besides establishing dairy colonies, centres too would be estab­ and other places near collecting lished in estates the colonies so that milk from these areas could be obtained to supply the urban areas.

Milk is a first class food but as all of I have no doubt that if the plan to us know fresh milk that is available locally is never produced cleanly and Furthermore is often not wholesome.
that the the industry is so disorganised of fresh milk is always a availability great difficulty especially in urban areas.

At a later facilities.

can if it is of dollars annually.
animal production completed go a long way to develop the in this country and help develop a string of dairy colonies throughout is successful the Federation it would dairy industry to reduce imports of condensed and powdered milk which now amounts to millions date increased only be successfully disease control coupled with proper and diagnostic As such funds of have been provided for extension and the Veterinary Research Institute in the Five­ for mobile laboratories y ear Plan but for the present more emphasis is being placed to provide further facilities tion and vaccine production.
function tion of the Veterinary Research tute for it not only produces practically all types of vaccines used in this country but also produces vaccines for sale to other neighbouring such as Indonesia, kong, Sarawak and British North Borneo.
is indeed an important func­ Hong­ Singapore, This latter countries Insti­ · In the Federation we have roughly throughout it is proposed to develop about 85,QOO heads of cattle of the milch type and they are mainly distri · buted either in the urban areas or in estates.

These animals provide a good nucleus to start an organised daily industry and a chain of daily colonies Malaya during the next five years.

However, for a start the first colony will be established in Batu Arang.
the In establishing this colony it is not intention of the Government to pur­ chase animals and run a Government farm.

What in fact will be done is to develop a colony for the dairymen and provide the necessary facilities them to produce clean milk which could later be pasteurised, cooled and sold to the public.
To help in estab­ Jishing the colony it is proposed to have proper milking parlours, cattle sheds, a dairy proper, fodder grasses Finally, for Sir, it will thus be seen that for disease investiga­ the whole programme to build up the livestock industry in the country has 789 28 APRIL 1961 790 within the foreseeable in its meat, poultry and egg been geared towards greater production so that the country can attain self­ suffi.ciency requirements foture.
Further it is the policy of this Ministry to encourage youths in the rural areas to indulge in large scale poultry and livestock make such fanning a paying proposi­ tion and a full time occupation.

rearing so as to mempunyai musim hujan yang tidak terator boleh menyebabkan tebu tidak manis saperti yang di-kehendaki ini akan mengurangkan daripada tebu itu.
basil gula dan Dalam negeri Perak ada satu tempat yang nama-nya pun Gula yang dahulu di-tanam gula, dan Tanah Jawa yang berhampir dengan kita penanaman gula amat-lah banyak.

Sir, I beg to move.

(Applause).


Jadi saya suka-lah sa-kurang2-nya Tuan Yang di-Pertua, agak­ Enche' Zulkiflee bin Muhammad (Bachok): nya hanya Menteri ini-lah yang ranchangan sunggoh2 mengemukakan yang ia faham, dan saya menguchapkan banyak terima kaseh atas penerangan2- nya itu oleh kerana tujuan daripada ini hendak menchapai Kementerian kadar yang chukup sa-kurang2-nya bagi kepentingan tanaman negeri ini.
Maka ada satu perkara yang saya telah tunggu2, tetapi saya tidak dapat dengar, perkara ini bukan-lah yang jauh sangat; tetapi boleh jadi Kementerian suatu kaedah atas menjalankan usaha2 untok me­ nambahkan baikkan tanaman itu.

menetapkan perkara mengelokkan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, di-dalam beberapa Sub-head yang ada di-sini tennasok sub-head yang mengenai chara2 dan ranchangan2 tanaman2 negeri ini.
Sa-tahu saya gula ada-lah satu makanan yang amat dan mustahak bagi kita sakalian, tidak-lah saya terdengar ngan yang di-buat oleh Kementerian ini bagi menggalakkan pengeluaran gula di-negeri kan penanaman tebu banyak2 di­ negeri ini.
ini dengan mengusaha­ apa rancha­ Pada suatu masa, Tuan Yang di­ Pertua, perkara ini saya telah sampai­ kan kapada sa-orang Pegawai Tanaman Negeri ia-itu khusus-nya Pegawai Tanaman Negeri Kelantan bertanya dengan chara rasmi bagai­ mana-kah chara supaya negeri ini tebu dapat menggalakkan penanaman dan supaya boleh negeri ini menge­ luarkan gula dengan banyak bagi makanan.
Jawapan yang saya terima- ini me­ Timor kaseh­ negeri ini Pertanian menjadikan benar2 nilai ekonomi anggaran peruntokan kata Yang Berhormat diri-nya sendiri di­ gula itu.

Tuan Yang saya harap Menteri ini fikiran-nya.
Tuan Yang di-dalam menchari2 per­ bagi Kementerian mikirkan dan membuat sa-kurang2-nya untok mengetahui daripada bertanam gula dengan pan­ dangan hendak chukup dengan dalam perusahaan di-Pertua, mengemukakan di-Pertua, untokan di-dalam anggaran belanjawan ini telah berjumpa satu peruntokan ia-itu sub-head 29 berkenaan bantuan kapada tanam2an dan berterima lah saya kapada Menteri ini apabila di-sebutkan-nya untok kawasan saya pula dan itu ada­ lah satu jasa baik Yang Berhormat Menteri itu.
Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa-bagaimana Menteri itu bahawa di-Pantai daripada awal Kelantan sampai hujong Tumpat banyak tanah2 kosong yang belum di-ketahui membanyakkan basil bagi kawasan2 itu dan apa nama jenis2 tanaman2 yang di-buat oleh Kementerian itu hasil-nya, tentu-lah tetapi ada satu jenis pokok yang saya nampak amat baik di-sabelah.

sana ia-itu pokok janggus atau ketereh kata orang Kelantan.
betul2 pokok itu boleh memajukan penana­ man di-kawasan saya mengeshorkan mengadakan research berkenaan de­ ngan buah janggus itu boleh di-pasar­ kan ka-luar, sebab-nya, di-Pertua, lah satu buah yang chepat rosak-nya dan di-waktu buah itu banyak maka dengan sendiri-nya turun dan oleh kerana pemindahan buah2 itu tidak dapat di-jalankan dengan chepat kalau2 Kementerian ini dapat memikirkan menyiasat Tuan Yang sa-tahu saya buah itu ada­ tersebut Kementerian sama ada berikhtiar akan di-tunggu2 sahaja harga-nya bagaimana hendak pengetinan Kalau-lah suka-lah ini supaya buah2 itu.
Pantai ?-' dan saya harap Menteri Yang Ber­ hormat dapat memberikan penjelasan­ nya-daripada Pegawai ia-lah keadaan Tanah Melayu banyak · Kanan itu 791 28 APRIL 1961 792 Tuan Yang di�Pertua, chara2 yang di-sebutkan Menteri itu kebanyakan-nya memuaskan.

oleh Yang Berhormat ada-lah terima kaseh dan tab· Enche' Mohamed Sulong bin Mohd.
AH (Lipis): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya sa-bagai ahli yang selalu berchakap berkenaan dengan kemajuan bertanam chuchok itu pad.a hari ini menguchap­ kan sa-tinggi2 ni'ab kapada Yang Berhormat Menteri Pertanian yang telah membuat rancha· ngan di·dalam Development Estimate 1960 ini.

Dan dengan luas-nya dia telah memberikan uchapan dan pene· rangaa, yang mengambil masa lebeh kur;t.rlg dua jam.
Maka sa-lama saya .duaok dalam Dewan ini baharu hari /// ini saya mendapat penjelasan yang terang dan ranchangan2 berkenaan dengan Kementerian-nya liputi semua Persekutuan Tanah Melayu dan tidak-lah antara Kelantan dan .

Trengganu.

Pabang dan lain2-nya.

(Ketawa).

berbedza2 di­ hingga me- Sa.ya di·dalam pertanian ini dalam begitu banyak satu sahaja yang saya ucbapkan dan usabakan di-sini ber­ kenaan dengan bantuan menjayakan paya kangsa, dan saya harap perkara itu akan betjaya.
Saya akan men­ jemput Yang Berhormat Menteri Pertanian untok membuka dengan rasmi-nya perusahaan ini.

Berkenaan dengan Veterinary Kepala Besar 135 kepala kechil 8 ia-itu menguntokkan wang sa-banyak $60,000 menolong negeri Pabang memelihara kerbau dan lembu, satu sahaja yang hendak saya ingatkan ia-itu hendak· lab di-bagi kerbau jantan, jika tidak lambat sangat biak-nya.

(Ketawa).
(Ketawa).

Oleh itu, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya minta-lah Yang Berhormat Menteri itu memberi kerbau kapada negeri Pahang jangan-lah beri kerbau betina sahaja.

Di-dalam kepala 135 kepala kechil 11.Menteri Pertanian telah memberi­ tahu Dewan ini ia-itu ia rnahu me­ majukan hidupan2 dan meluaskan perusahaan ngatkan ia-itu pada masa ini per­ niagaan ayam yang besar sa-kali dari Kelantan melalui kereta api ia-lah ini.

Saya suka-lah rnengi­ berkenaan ayam Kelantan di-Kelantan di-Kelantan Lumpur.
Tetapi ini ada mengeluarkan tidak ada bagi tempat ka-Lipis-Kuala nampak-nya di-pasar2, itu mur ah kerana daging tubob badan· nya tidak memuaskan.

daging-nya keras dan baka ayam itu daripada ayam keturunan Siam belaka.

Jadi sa-patut-nya-lah mesti ada satu chubaan yang besar untok membaiki baka2 ayam belaga supaya jangan jatob sangat pemiagaan sau· dara2 kita dengan hal ini.
Berkenaan dengan �epala kechil 14 Development Reserve itu satu perkara yang sangat sa-suai pada hari ini kerana tiap2 tahun Kementerian wang untok membanyakkan peme­ liharaan kerbau atau sa-bagai-nya, tetapi jika sa-kira-nya tempat yang di-majukan kerbau2 lembu makan maka tentu·lah kerbau itu tidak dapat berlipat ganda.

Dan juga dalam negeri Pahang umpama-nya kerbau lembu ini satu perk:ara yang menyusahkan.

kerana kerbau lembu di-Pahang itu tidak ada tempat yang di-untokkan reserve.
Jadi binatang2 itu tidor di­ jalan, bukan sahaja mengotorkan jalan !aya, tetapi juga mengendalakan lalu hntas.

Ada satu .

perkara sahaja yang saya dukachita Veterinary dalam.

�ajli�.
�ajli�.

lepas ia-1tu Pertanian maj�an pemeliharaan baga1-nya maka patut-lah makanan-nya daripada negeri kita sendiri, kerana pada masa ini saya dapati tidak maju pemeliharaan telor ia-lah oleh kerana belanja makanan yang di-datangkan daripada luar negeri itu sangat mahal, umpama­ nya telor yang datang daripada luar negeri Iebeh murah sampai l O sen, tetapi telor dalam negeri kita tidak kurang dari 13-14 sen harga-nya satu biji kerana makanan yang mahal itu datang-nya negeri.
Oleh ta' ada di-sebutkan satu reserve atau menyiasat bagaimana-k:ah tidak makanan binatang2 dan di-usahakan dalam negeri 1m, kerana satu perkara yang kita pun �eshuarat yang 11kalau saktra-nya Menteri me­ ayam dan sa­ dalam perkara ini untok experiment boleh atau - itu di-buat sedikit ini.
Saya sudah beruchap di-utamakan yang boleh di-keluarkan ini bermaksud hendak ayam bagi mengeluarkan itu, di·sini saya dapati daripada luar ini pada dalam hal sendiri tempat 793 28 APRIL 1961 794 tabu yang boleb bidup subor dalam negeri ini ia-lah jagong, tetapi saya dapati kedai2 yang menjual makanan ayam, itek dan babi itu jagong itu di· datangkan dari luar negeri.
Oleh itu, saya barap kapada Kementerian hendak·lah b� siasatan tidak · makanan binatang2 yang sa­ umpama itu di-keluarkan oleh negeri ldta sendiri supaya harga barang2 makanan ayam itek itu sendiri boleb jadi murah.

bagi menchuba boleb-kah mengira juga atau mem· m1 Di-bawah Kepala Besar 130, Kepala and $1,000,000.

Perkara ini saya bahawa Kecbil 43-Coconut Rehabilitation Replanting dapati, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya dan rakan saya telab mem­ bangkitkan perkara ini lebeh kurang 3 atau 4 tabun dabulu.
Pada kali ini saya dapati yang perkara ini akan betjaya, kerana wang-nya telah ada di­ untokkan dan di-harap ra'ayat2 di­ pantai tlmur yang hidup-nya itu bergantong kapada kelapa akan dapat menekmati daripada pertolongan bawah tadbiran ini.
di­ akan datang, Pada penghahisan-nya, Tuan Yang saya dengan tegas-nya me· atau pun belanja oleh Kementerian ini, oleh kerana penerangan· di-Pertua, nyokong ranchangan yang di-untokkan Pertanian nya yang panjang lebar, dan saya harap pada tabun2 Menteri ini bukan sahaja berchakap 2!
jam bahkan lebeh lagi daripada itu, kerana ini ada-lah satu perkara yang sangat mustahak bagi kehidupan ya dan saya ekonomi ra'ayat seluroh-n minta-lah apa juga yang patut bagi memajukan berkenaan dengan peme· liharaan, pengbidupan atau pun tanam2an yang mana yang ta' ada dalam ranchangan pada tahun ini akan di-adakan pada tahun badapan.

baik sahaja, tetapi Tuan Yang di-Pertua.

pada masa ini ta' ada-lah kelapa itu, kalau ta' salah saya sama ­ lah tua-nya umor bapa saya dengan kalapa itu.
Itu pun di-tunggu oleh orang kampong, hendak di-kaitkan kelapa itu-hcndak hasil-nya baik.

Saya ucbapk:an berbanyak terima kaseh di-atas penghargaan bantuan Penanam Samula Kelapa itu supaya penanaman itu di-biak dan ,di-maju­ kan, umpama-nya di-daerah Selangor ta' kurang dari 2,000 ekar mereka yang mempunyai pekebun2 kechil yang terdiri dari orang2 Melayu dan ini tidak termasok di-Sabak Bemam yang lebeh kurang 600-700 ekar.
Penyakit-nya, kalau kita mendengar pada tahun yang sudah soal padi kuncha maka kelapa ini ada juga kuncha-nya.

Sebab saya tahu sendiri ia-itu di-punyai oleh tuan-nya, sedangkan buah-nya sudah di-gadaikan.

Umpama· nya saya ada 3 pokok kelapa.

Pokok dan batang-nya orang lain punya.

Ini sarupa juga dengan padi kuncha.
Soal ini dapat di-atasi oleh Kementerian walau pun ada beberapa rancbangan kerjasama yang hendak di-adakan bagi memulehkan pekebun2 kechil ini, tetapi kalau soal ini tidak dapat di­ atasi maka saya rasa harus-lah kat Kerjasama yang hendak mengum­ pulkan pekebun2 kechil itu, malaban buah2 kelapa yang telah di-gadai ter­ lebeh dahulu itu dan kalau hendak buat sharikat kerjasama di-ajak sa-saorang itu yang barus membayar kapada orang yang telah di-kuncha�nya saya punya, buah-nya pokok-nya sahaja yang hendak-lah ini, kerana Shari­ itu.
Kepala 132 soal bund.

Bila saya berchakap soal ini saya tidak-lah bermaksud untok mengganggu langkah dengan kuku besi Menteri Pertanian atau dengan kuku yang panjang, tetapi saya suka menarek perhatian tentang kejayaan pada 1953 ia-itu pendudok2 daerah Rantau Panjang telah merayu kapada Kerajaan.

merdeka dan jawapan pada tahun 1953 itu hanya baharu di-jawab oleh Pegawai Daerah dalam tahun 1957.
Alang-kah sedeb-nya 'dari tahun 1953 hingga tahun 1957 hagi memperhaiki bund daerah Rantau Panjang itu baharu di-jawab.

Pada masa itu belum Enche' Hamzah bin Alaq (Kapar): berchakap ber· Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kenaan dengan Kepala 130, Kepala Kechil 43 di-atas Penanaman Sa-mula Kelapa.

Kita tahu bahawa perusahaan kelapa ini ada-lah satu daripada kehidupan orang2 Melayu di-kam· pong2.
Boleh saya katakan di-daerah ,�°' Selangor kebanyakan-nya orang itu hidup, dia besar hari ini ia-lah di­ hidupkan oleh kelapa, sedangkan 795 28 APRIL 1961 796 di­ 400 kapada membela bulan-lah-kalau Negeri telah di-potong, ini konon-nya tidak Sa-telah Pilehan Raya tahun 1959. di·ada­ berharap Kementerian ini nasib ra'ayat yang dudok dalam Rantau Panjang.

Kerana banjir kampong itu bukan-lah satu benchana 'alam menunggu kalau hari hujan.
Ini kita katakan mengikut ayer boleh-lah pasang pada tiap2 pasang, kalau ayer bulan, maka tiap2 orang tengah sembahyang di-masjid berhenti kerana ayer naik.

Mereka menumpukan kehidupan-nya kapada kelapa.

Pendudok2 di-Rantau Panjang dalam masa 80 tahun dahulu selalu pergi Haji, boleh-lah di-katakan tiap2 sa-orang itu dua tiga kali pergi Haji.

J adi bila orang kampong itu selalu menunjokkan mata pen­ pergi Haji itu charian di-kampong itu berlebeh dan dapat menyimpan wang.
Tetapi semen­ jak banjir mengalami di-kampong itu kelapa itu yang biasa-nya sa-ekar kebun 700-800 biji, seka­ dapat mengeluarkan rang ini jangan di-harapkan demikian.

kelapa yang menghijau itu telah kuning sa-bagai.

orang kena penyakit "demam kura" (malaria) kerana bahana ayer masin yang naik pada tiap2 bulan, yang bukan sahaja pokok kelapa tetapi rumah yang biasa-nya tetapi dapat di-pakai 1-2 tahun sahaja kerana ayer naik.
terpaksa di-punggah Jikalau sa-kira-nya ranchangan bund tanah yang sa-luas 200 ekar ini di-buat, itu dapat di-gunakan.

Dengan jalan itu banyak-lah peluang bagi orang di­ daerah batu 4 sampai batu 8 tidak mempunyai tanah dapat di-tempatkan di-claerah itu.

Ranchangan Buku Merah telah kan bagi membaiki nasib orang kam­ pong.

Maka orang kampong mengaciu· kan kapada saya sa-bagai Wakil Ra'ayat, maka saya pun membawa perkara itu supaya di-masokkan dalam Buku Merah.

Tetapi malang-nya.
Tetapi malang-nya.

Tuan Yang di-Pertua, belum pun sempat hendak di-masokkan ka-dalam Buku Merah, bila sampai sahaja Jawatan-kuasa kerana ranchangan ekonomi.

Bund yang hendak di-buat itu ia-lah kawasan yang sa-luas ekar yang mengandongi 120 buah rumah yang pendudok -nya berjumlah 700 orang walau pun pehak D.I.D.

mengatakan ranchangan ini tidak ekonomi, tetapi ranchangan bund ini harus di-baiki.
Dalam uchapan pem­ bukaan, Menteri yang berkenaan telah mengatakan bahawa bund ada-lah di· utamakan kapada soal kelapa juga harus kita perhatikan kerana kelapa ada-lah satu daripada mata pencharian ra'ayat di-kampong.

Baharu2 ini orang kampong telah berjumpa dengan pehak D.I.D.

merayu supaya membuat Kata pehak D.I.D.


Oh, kampong ini tidak boleh buat bund, Kerajaan akan rugi banyak saya sayangkan ka-mana-lah di-pindahkan orang itu, sedang dahan dalam negeri Selangor tidak ada tanah, yang hendak di-buka hanya untok orang daerah itu, itu pun tidak chukup.

Kalau hendak di-bund mengi­ kut kata pehak D.I.D.

akan memakan belanja $700,000.

Saya telah beberapa kali membuat perubahan untok me­ murahkan belanja sa-hingga menjadi $250,000.
juga, bukan lagi hendak dalam Buku Merah sa-bagaimana yang saya katakan tadi.

uchapan saya ini jangan-lah yang berkenaan mengatakan saya menggaru belaka Perkara ini pun tidak dapat di-masokkan Dr. Lim Swee Aun (Larut Selatan): menghabiskan di-situ .

.

Jadi yang hendak Itu-lah yang saya harap, clan dalam orang yang sa-ramai 700 boleh di-pakai 3 tahun ranchangan bund ini.

ng-nya dengan kuku.

pesawah.


Tetapi ranchangan pemin­ boleh pindah, Menteri the Sa-harus-nya perkara ini tidak-lah habis untok mendapat­ Dewan Yang di-bawah per· saya chakapkan kapada Berhormat ini, tetapi undingan telah kan kerjasama daripada pegawai2 itu, malah ia tidak Ra'ayat di-sana.

saya chuba pujok-rayu tetapi tidak berhasil.

Maka itu-lah sebab-nya saya pedulikan Wakil Saya chuba berlemah, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I congratulate Honourable Minister.
of Agriculture for hiS' very comprehensive and detailed speech and I certainly envy his memory for the tremendous number of facts and figures he quoted.

In his preamble he hM expressed the hope that we back-benchers and Members of the Opposition would not ask unnecessary him that I shall not go over ground that he has covered.
questions, but I assure 797 28 APRIL 1961 798 mining land to increase the have been a space\ of time When the Honourable Minister site for the new Parliament cost might desilting in Johore, and sub­ out in so shortl on the study of soil, the sub-head 1 3 of levelled top soil land available for through the use of heavy machinery, been silted up.

What is sub-heads, Development with heavy machinery-whether or to us the work land which has been converted to also how to mined out land.
Perhaps the cubic yards of top coastal areas.

Head 1 32, sub-head 63 any investigat valuable top soil.

As was dealing with Head 1 03, Agriculture, of Federal Dry-land Stations, he went not the top soil of all this agricultural into detail explaining done in these dry land stations, mining land could not be saved particularly different types of soils, what use these to be taken over to cover the areas of soils can be put to, and preserve top soil.
Sir, as a layman, I be tremendous, but looking at it from havei often wondered whether or not the other angle, we could at least save that Ministry has made any study or worked out the landless.

That is taken steps to preserve the that is being wasted in this country the point P am throwingi out to the to see whether he has made through min ing.
Every year thousands Minister, and thousands of acres of agricultural ion to preserve the a result of this land and land suitable for agriculture is being converted into mining land mining, many rivers in the country have and, depending on the type or method been silted up, bringing with it pro­ of mining, the valuable top soil is blems of flooding and the loss of lost.

Take open cast mining, for exam-fishing which is quite important in the ple.
Many million soil have been taken and thrown away provides for river clearingi and before they can reach the tin, and in in Penang, sub-head 68 provides for the tin dredge earth is dug and churned new river clearing up in the water and is lost as silt in head 77 drainage of rivers in Selangor.

the rivers with the result that a lot of I have been looking through all these rivers have left behind after mining of thousands sion foll river clearing and desilting and thousands of acres of agricultural Perak.
I am sure that is being looked land is nothing else but barren white after and provided for somewhere-­ sand on whicli even lalang find cult to grow.

I understand have been made in certain States, appeal to particularly conditions should be levelling and sliming of about two feet deep of slime with the and it was by1 this means that the hope that these areas can be rehabi-export of tin came through the famous litated for agriculture.
have read I can only: be used by small because boats and the poor fishermen in that sliming is still unsatisfactory, the granules of slime are very minute area have found it very difficult to earn with the result that there is retention a living because, they claim, that the very little silt had killedi all the fish.
Although f of water and practically of the soil under Head 1 33, Fisheries, sub-head 8, aeration and oxygenation for the making it unsuitable I hope that some of What I am interested whether it comes under these of stations or under some other depart-fishermen in my district.

As ai result of ment in the Ministry-whether or not the silting of Sungai Larut, the whole steps are being taken to preserve this of the coastal area of Larut and Matang valuable top soil.
I as a layman again, that with the several hundreds of acres of padi land amount of earth moving machinery are now unuseable; and also many that we see around in this country-I thousands of acres of rubber estates was really: surprised at the speed at are affected by this flooding.

We, at which the Parliament road and the the district level, have tried to include in Perak, where one of the made somehow somewhere to dredge for mining is that there and desilt Sungai that attempts Development Estimates.
But I would the Minister that provision for agriculture.

there is financial assistance to know is that, fishing industry, From reports I Matang in the 1 890s, but now it isi so it diffi-perhaps it is not included under thought, is flooded during the rainy seasons dry land that money will go to the assistance Larut used to be a navigable river, method of silted that it any provi­ in Larut.
Now, Sungai but I cannot find gather that this would have these and be 799 28 APRIL 1961 800 schemes, it in the rural development drainage and but we were told that irrigation comes under the Federal Governm ent.

In spite of many attempts, we found that we could not get any headway, and that is why I am appeal· ing to the Minister today whether he has some other methods of helping us out by dredging the Sungai Larut.
to see Pertolongan ini tidak memadai-lah kapada Pejabat Per· kalau di-serahkan tanian sahaja.

Oleh sebab itu saya minta-lah kapada semua ahli kita mesti masok dalam kampong2 memaju­ kan berkenaan dengan peladang2 lagi Farmers Association.

Sa-perkara saya sebutkan dalam Persatuan di-kam­ pong2 itu.

pertubohan2 atau organisa­ tion!

yang lebeh mujarab maka sekarang say!!

fikir tidak Iain dan tidak bukan mesti menerusi pertubohan kerjasama.
Wan Sulaiman bin Wan Tam (Kota Star Selatan): Tuan Yang di· Pertua, saya memberi tahniah banyak2 kapada Kementerian Tanaman di-atas usaha-nya dan saya tidak berasa jemu mendengar uchapan-nya lebeh, oleh sebab saya tahu .

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sampai sa-jam Mr. Speaker: Sa-benar-nya dua jam sa·tengah (Ketawa).

hal kehi­ itu ia-lah bin Wan Tam: apa2 yang di-dalam· kapada ra'ayat sendiri · Wan Sulaiman Oleh sebab saya tahu benar2 apa yang di-uchapkan oleh Menteri perkara2 yang berkenaan dengan dupan orang2 kampong.
Di-dalam ranchangan yang di-uchapkan oleh Kementerian ini sa-bagaimana yang terma'alum kapada Yang Berhormat di-dalam Head 130, ia-itu berkenaan dengan tanaman dan juga di-atas Veterinary dan lain2 lagi semua her· kenaan dengan hal kehidupan ra'ayat di-kampong2.
Jika sa-kira-nya tidak dapat di-majukan nya itu dengan sa-berapa daya maka itu terpulang·lah maka oleh sebab itu saya fikir berasa kewajipan-lah kapada diri saya sendiri sa4>agai ahlil Dewan Ra'ayat jalan supaya menolong orang2 kam· pong itu menyudahkan derita-nya menerima ranchangan2 yang indah per� mai ini.
Maka jalan yang mustahak dan juga sa-bagaimana saya telah dapat pengalaman kita sakalian ahli2 yang bertanggong­ jawab di-atas kawasan masing2 men· chontohkan dalam pertubohan2 di· kampong2 sa-umpama encouragement of Farmers Association ia·itu masok­ kan diri kita qalam pertubohan Far­ mers Association itu dapat-lah kesusahan situ maka di-samping itu dapat-lah kita menunjokkan keterangan2 bahawa ada sedia ranchangan2 untok mereka.

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Maka dengan jalan apa-kah kita mengetahui clan kemahuan2 di· oleh itu mahu·lah ra'ayat menchari Alang-kah elok-nya jika sa-kira-nya jalan2 yang per­ Associa• sharikat2 kerja· saya katakan demi· saya fikir molek·lah jika di-dalam Farmers sekarang ini.

Yang ada encouragement of farmers association jadikan encouragement of co-operative association.
Sebab kian dalam co-operative, tama-nya ia-lah menolong diri kita sendiri, meninggikan iktisad mereka2 sendiri jika apa2 yang hendak di· hebahkan di-kampong2 itu.

Ini mesti· lah menerusi badan2 atau pertubohan2.

Maka di-sini sa-kira-nya tion itu di-samping memajukan pela­ dang2 itu mahu-lah menchari supaya di-tubohkan sama yang ada sekarang ini ia-lah sharikat pinjam­ meminjam, sharikat kedai2.

Tetapi itu tidak memadai, mesti di-adakan ber­ macham2 sharikat kerjasama lagi.
Saya maseh ingat Iagi dalam satu buku tebal yang saya bacha bernama "Report of the Royal Committee of India on Agriculture".

dapat tahu sama ada di-jual Dalam buku ini mengatakan bahawa semua kemajuan2 kampong, pelajaran tanaman mesti di-hebahkan menerusi badan2 dan sharikat kerjasama.

di-dalam buku itu menyebutkan juga "Jika berkehendak kerjasama itu fail, ma'ana-nya kechiwa, maka kechiwa­ lah the rural economy of the people.
Jadi saya perchaya benar2 chara2 memajukan kampong itu tidak­ lah tergantong sa-mata2 kapada menterian ini tetapi mesti-lah tergan­ tong juga kapada mereka yang sedia hendak maju.

Buku tebal ini saya tidak atau tidak.


ada-lah Maka Ke­ itu, Tuan Yang di· Maka oleh sebab sa-lai� d�pa� Pertua, saya minta-lah memajuk:an Farmers Association 1m mesti-lah di-chari jalan menubohkan 801 28 APRIL 1961 802 Farmers Association atau Sharikat Kerjasama yang lain lagi sa-bagaimana sharikat bela ayam, sharikat kerbau lembu, sharikat kedai2 kopi dan lain2 di-adakan pertubohan untok memeli­ hara kepentingan kesemua perusahaan yang mesti di-adakan pertubohan saperti ini.
tetapi dukachita nya di-kampo tidak tubohan sape u yang boleh mem­ bela nasib mereka.

Dengan sebab itu, mesti-lah Farmers Association kampong2 itu bagi mengembangkan jenis Sharikat Kerjasama.

nampak­ ada jenis per­ kita menubohkan banyak lagi dan juga di­ Mr. Speaker: Banyak sangat di­ ulang2kan.

Wan Sulaiman bin Wan Tam: of saya memo­ Tuan Yang itu ia-itu benar sa-kali daripada Pejabat pada masa itu menjadi Member keterangan-nya 3,000 orang telah turun ka-satu Kedah memotong padi.
Mana orang2 itu pergi.

Sa-patut-nya petani2 itu sudah ada memotong padi.

Di-mana orang2 itu sudah pergi.

Jadi saya sendiri pergi ka-Padang Besar dan saya minta kerjasama Pulis, Pejabat Immigration, Pejabat Railway dan juga Pejabat Kesihatan.

Sa.ya mema'alumkan kapada-nya bahawa tujuan saya datang ka-sana ia-lah sa-bagai sahabat, oleh sebab saya mahu tahu mengapa-kah petani2 itu tidak ada di-kawasan tong padi.
Sa.ya sa-bagai wakil ra'ayat yang telah di-pileh Parliament ada-lah kewajipan saya dalam perkara itu.

Sa.ya meminta per­ setujuan dapat kira-nya di-beri ketera­ ngan.

· mengapa banyak petani2 itu ta' ada di-sana.

di-Pertua, petani2 sud.ah masok ka-mari dan yang lain2 lagi itu semua-nya tida)c berasa puas hati, tetapi malang-nya orang2 petani itu dalam sekian2 ribu masok di-situ, station sahaja.

Saya ta' mahq sebutkan station mana.

Mengapa 3,000 orang turun satu station sahaja?


Pada hal kita tahu benar jikalau petani hendak di-bawa masok dalam negeri Kedah mereka itu mesti-lah ada surat dari penghulu, kalau bagitu j ikalau petani datang ka-sana maka mereka mesti-lah datang ka-station yang berhampiran di-situ.

petani turun dalam satu tempat sahaja.

Ini saya berasa sangat susah hati, dan saya mendengar di-telinga di-sana ada jual padi-macham2 (Ketawa).
lni satu daripada perkara yang saya minta dari Kementerian tolong adakan satu chara supaya petani2 itu jangan di-biarkan tinggal bagitu sahaja, dan mesti-lah chari satu jalan bagaimana hendak menyenangkan petani2 padi sama ada datang dari Kelantan­ kah atau lain2 supaya mengadakan pertubohan-"encouragement mers Associatio n"-biar ada pemuda2 yang bagitu gagah dengan pisau-nya pergi memotong padi supaya orang2 petani itu pergi ka-luar lagi.
Mengapa sekian banyak orang ia jangan saya sendiri itu memotOng dan ter­ of Far­ di­ ini Enche' llarDD bin Abdullah (Baling): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sidangan Dewan Ra'ayat yang lalu dalam per­ saya, Terima kaseh.

Sa.tu perk ara lagi yang saya suka hendak sebutkan di-sini ia-lah ada beberapa perkara ia-itu di­ Kepala Kechil 1 2.

20, 21, 24 dan lain2 lagi untok memajukan hal bertanam padi.

Di-Kedah sana ada 1 32,276 pela­ dang bendang padi.
lni berma'ana jikalau kita berchakap hal padi mesti · lah kita kena sebutkan juga, maka dari itu saya suka menyebutkan bahawa kebanyakan daripada orang2 kampong sana ia-lah bertanam padi.

Baharu2 ini iil.-itu pada masa mengetam padi yang telah lalu saya berasa sangat dukachita apabila saya melawat ka-kawasan kemudian saya telah mendapat rayuan yang .

kata-nya, apa macham susah sekarang ini, ta' dapat orang pad.a masa sekarang ini hendak Tahun ini alham dulillah.

banyak padi, oleh sebab di-gunakan baja .


urea.

Sa·bilgaimana yang kita semua ma'alum bahawa jikalau hujan sud.ah.

datang ta' ada petani hendak memotong padi.

Itu ada dua tiga tempat rungutan yang di-terima dan perkara ini telah ada di-sebutkan dalam akhbar Warta Negara.

Perkara ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ngembangkan yang itu, tetapi berapa banyak padi yang telah rosak di-sebab· kan hujan.
Jikalau sa-kira-nya dalam negeri Kedah beribu2 ringgit kapada peladang2 itu sahaja, jadi saya dengan serta merta pergi ka-Padang Besar di­ mana tempat petani yang di-bawa masok di-sana.

Saya bertanya apa sebab ikut yang telah di-benarkan 5,000 Kerajaan· orang petani masok dalam negeri memotong padi.

Tuhan bagi kita me­ 803 28 APRIL 1961 804 Sesung­ di-Baling di-hantarkan di-mana.
saya telah me­ hendak menchapai sekali orang2 pegawai tersebut bagi kerja mengawasi sbarikat2 saya telab pun menyuarakan dalam Dewan ini kapada pehak · Menteri yang berkenaan tegas-nya Menteri Pertanian dan Sharikat Kerjasama ia-itu kawasan saya di-Baling sa­ mobon supaya dapat orang Pegawai Sharikat Kerjasama di­ sana.

Alham dulillah pada hari ini saya ucbapkan berbanyak terima kaseh kapada Kementerian ini yang telah pun menghantarkan menjalankan yang ada dalam kawasan itu.
goh-nya dalam kawasan itu satu kawa­ san dalam kawasan saya di­ mana satu kawasan yang boleh di-kata­ kan baharu sabaja kemajuan terutama Melayu yang sangat banyak di-situ bersemangat untok hendak kan Sharikat Kerjasama Pinjam Me­ minjam di-kampong, walau bagaimana pun ada satu perkara yang mustahak yang saya hendak mengeluarkan pen­ dapat saya kapada Menteri yang ber­ kenaan ia-itu dalam masa pegawai itu tugas-nya dalam bendak menjalankan kawasan itu bukan hanya mereka untok melawat, memereksa segala kira2, atau menghadziri segala meshuarat agong Sharikat Kerjasam a itu sahaja, bah· kan mustahak sekali kena-lah ada pegawai2 yang boleh memberi pene­ rangan supaya tempat2 yang belum lagi ada, Sharikat Kerjasama Pinjam Meminjam itu supaya dapat di-tuboh· kan dengan seberapa yang boleh.
menuboh­ Kerja­ pinjaman, chuba menarek diri.

itu ta' dapat hendak pehak Kera­ ini berikh­ satu peruntokan Sharikat Kerjasama itu menubobkan Sharikat Kerjasama ia-lah untok hendak mendapatkan mana· kala mereka hendak meminjam, Jawatan-Kuasa memberi kerana wang itu sedikit pada masa itu.
Maka abli Sharikat sama itu pun Dalam hal ini saya rasa jaan khas-nya Kementerian tiar mengadakan memberi pinjaman tambahan kapada Bank Persatuan mereka ia-itu melalui Bank Agong Sharikat Kerjasama Persekutuan dan Bank Peringkat yang di­ Daerah.

Jadi dengan bantuan beri kapada Sharikat Kerjasama itu dengan melalui Bank2 tersebut maka baharu-lah gemar daripada pebak orang2 kampong bertambah maju masok menjadi abli dengan subor-nya.
dan hidup-lah ba.gi Jadi dengan ada-nya pertolongan sa-bagaimana pehak Kera· dan peruntokan daripada kerjasama tidak jaan.

penyakit sharikat dapat memberi pinjaman yang saya katakan tadi tentu-lah per­ kara itu dapat di-sempurnakan.

Kalau pehak RIDA.

dapat memberi pinjaman Bank yang tersebut memberi faedah dan maju, kerana dalam sharikat kerjasama jawatan2- kuasa dan pegawai2-nya telah pun lantek dan orang2 ini mahir menjaga wang tersebut dan mengutip segala pinjaman untok di-bayar balek kapada Kerajaan.
itu akan lebeh lagi di­ Satu perkara yang membawa saya hendak Sa-lain dari pada itu, kemundoran kapada Sharikat Kerja­ sama di-kampong2 itu ia-lah oleh kerana tidak mendapat penerangan2 yang chukop kapada abli2, mithal-nya dalam sa-buah Sharikat Kerjasama di­ kampong mengikut apa yang telah di· terangkan oleh Pegawai Sharikat Kerjasama bahawa sa-sabuab sharikat yang hendak di-tubohkan itu kena-lah ada mempunyai ahli tidak kurang daripada 25 orang-yuran-nya se­ kurang2-nya wang sa-banyak tiap2 sa-orang tiga puloh maka kalau sa·banyak 25 orang akan ratus lima puloh sa-tahun.
tujoh ratus lima puloh, masa sa-tahun kalau lima tahun Iebeh kurang tiga ribu lebeh.

Maka tujuan pehak ahli berchakap berkenaan dengan peruntok­ an Kampong Iboi Kupang, yang mana tempati ini ada-lah dalam kawasan saya.

Dalam kawasan ini mempunyai sawab lebeh kurang 1,000 relong.

Dahulu daripada ini kawasan ini tidak mendapat kadang2 kering sebab ayer dan menyebabkan petani2 banyak rugi, dan pendapatan padi ada-lah kurang sebab ayer yang dapat di-masok­ kan ka-sawah itu tidak chukup sem­ purna.
Mudah2an dengan ada-nya sa-banyak $120,000 peruntokan yang ini empangan yang tersebut itu akan dapat di-bena atau dapat di-buat dan bendang yang dengan sempuma, di-buat oleh ra'ayat dalam kawasan itu boleh dapat pendapatan yang lebeh dan $30 sa-tahun.

ini ia-itu dapat tujoh Jadi dalam kalau kita kira Jadi dengan 805 28 APRIL 1961 ' 806 harus juga boleh membuat bendang � ··· dua kali sa-tahun.

dalam negen mi.
dalam negen mi.

J adi penganggoran saya memberi kesimpulan di-atas uchapan yang oleh telah di-terangkan Yang Berhormat Menteri Partanian itu bahawa ranchangan itu telah dapat di­ jalankan, ia-itu yang di-datangkan di-luar bandar .

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kapada pendudok "ayer ma'al-hayat" Pada akhir-nya, saya hendak ber­ chakap tentang tanah hutan simpanan Kerajaan.

Mengikut dasar Forest se­ karang ini boleh memberi permit pada tiap2 permintaan daripada ra'ayat sa­ kira-nya tanah2 hutan itu boleh di­ perbuat bendang.
Ada satu perkara yang mendukachita kan saya sebab pada masa ini banyak Pegawai Hutan di-kawasan saya telah pun memberi permit yang tersebut itu kapada ra'ayat bagi membuka tanah untok membuat bendang, tetapi malang­ nya pegawai itu tidak berhubong dengan Jawatan-kuasa Pembangunan Luar Bandar di-daerah itu.

Dengan kerana itu sa-tengah kawasan yang telah di-chadangkan oleh Jawatan­ kuasa Pembangunan Luar Bandar telah di-beri dahulu kapada ra'ayat oleh Pegawai Hutan.
Jadi dalam Mr. Speaker: Chakap bahasa Melayu!

Enche' Ahmad bin Arshad: Sa-lain daripada itu saya hendak berchakap tentang Ranchangan Tali-ayer.

Apa yang hendak saya chakapkan ia-lah Serom Drainage Schemes, Johor.

Sa­ bagai Wakil Ra'ayat kawasan Muar Utara.

pada mula2 saya masok dalam Dewan yang bertuah ini saya telah menyatakan kesulitan kawasan itu, dan saya menguchapkan terima kaseh kapada Kementerian ini kerana mengambil perhatian di-atas uchapan saya itu.

pendudok dalam .
pendudok dalam .

masaalah ini telah menjadi satu kesusahan kapada Jawatan-kuasa Pembangunan Luar Bandar yang hendak: mengator-nya supaya kawasan itu di-buat dengan chara yang betul.

Oleh itu, saya harap Kementerian ini mengambil perhatian supaya kea­ daan yang saperti itu dapat di-betulkan.

Saya suka mengeshorkan sa-barang permit yang hendak di-keluarkan lebeh dahulu hendak-lah mendapat perundingan daripada Jawatan-kuasa Kemajuan Luar Bandar.
ter­ Di-samping itu, saya gemar me­ dan dapat di-dalam itu akan dapat· ngulang sa-mula bahawa sekim yang saperti itu harus juga di-adakan bagi sungai2 Kesang, Gelemang, Kudai Tangkak, sa-kira-nya dan di-besarkan sungai2 lah ra'ayat dalam gunakan tanah yang saya anggar lebeh kurang 6,000 ekar.

Apabila dapat di­ laksanakan hal ini maka berbagai2 ranchangan dan penyiasatan akan di­ lakukan supaya petani2 dalam kawasan itu dapat dalam bahagian pertanian.
perusahaan-nya kawasan itu meng­ menjalankan Enche' Ahmad bin Anhad (Muar Utara): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya bangun menyokong penoh atas peruntokan wang bagi Kementerian Pertanian dan Sharikat Ker jasama dalam Ranchangan Lima Tahun ini.

Se.gala ranchangan yang telah di­ terangkan oleh Yang Berhormat Menteri Pertanian itu ada-lah satu usaha yang besar untok memberi faedah kapada ra'ayat di-luar bandar.
Dengan baik-nya perusahaan2 tanaman, temakan dan perikanan, akan mengubah masharakat pendudok di-luar bandar di-atas dua chara.

Yang pert ama, mereka akan hidup dengan saya nampak .

keadaan yang lumayan dan mewah dan akan mengatasi satu hal yang mereka tidak .suka makan gaji.
Yang kedua, boleh mengatasi penyakit Tuan Yang di-Pertua, bila berchakap siap di­ kawasan tali-ayer saya gemar menarek kapada sungutan yang kerap soal tali-ayer, perhatian berlaku di-kalangan ra'ayat ia-itu manakala satu kerjakan oleh Kerajaan, maka timbul masaalah hendak mengenakan chukai tali-ayer sa-bagaimana yang kita pernah dengar.
Untok mengatasi hal ini saya suka mengeshorkan bahawa sayugia di-kenakan chukai tali-ayer sa-telah hendak-lah di-beri jangka panjang untok mengutip chukai itu supaya menjadi satu kerenganan kapada kebun mereka baharu ra'ayat, sebab daripada itu pada subor.

Sa-lain fikiran saya harus juga di-kenakan chukai tali-ayer dan sekim itu selesai sa-tahun, ini kapada tuan2 kebun 807 28 APRIL 1961 808 is $39 million if he.

can get them.
can get them.

We bigger amounts yang mempunyai kebun lebeh dari­ notice that he mentioned in his speech '-"· pada 100 ekar, sebab mereka ini-lah yang lebeh dahulu mendapat hasil last night that the total development yang lumayan, dan ayer daripada allocation for this year kawasan-nya itu di-buang dalam or a little more than that.

That is only about 8.5 per cent of the amount kampong yang rendah.
Dengan jalan that is included in ini akan menjadi satu kemudahan Estimates and when we come to think: kapada petani yang sa-kian lama that Agriculture dalam kesusahan kerana tempat-nya of very important economic itu kena banjir.

our country.

since the bulk of the population in this country depends directly on such activities for their livelihood, to this field is might be a little bit more satisfactory if the whole of the 8.5 per cent had been used for the stimulation of econo­ mic activities.
to devote only 8.5 per cent and Co-operatives these Development very inadequate.

Pada akhir-nya, Tuan Yang di­ concern to are It 500 Pertua, saya hendak berchakap ten­ tang ternakan.

Di-kawasan saya ada kawasan ternakan kerbau sa-luas ekar, kerbau temakan di-situ ada lebeh kurang 300 ekor.

Saya me­ nguchapkan terima kaseh kapada Ke­ menterian ini yang sangat mengambil berat berhubong dengan satu kema­ langan penyakit sampat telah menimpa itu.
Hampir kapada kerbau di-kawasan 200 ekor kerbau telah mad, tetapi Pegawai Haiwan daripada negeri Johor telah menyuntekl kerbau itu dan memberi ubat, dan sekarang penyakit itu telah reda dan kerbau itu telah puleh sa-mula.

Jadi saya memandangkan kapada usaha Yang Berhormat Menteri Pertanian tadi ia-itu satu Iangkah daripada kerbaul dan lembu ini di­ ambil susu-nya.
yang saya katakan itu ia-itu Telok Rimau ia-itu kerbau2 daripada tempat itu di-harapkan Kementerian ini akan mengambil susul-nya lagi kehidupan ra'ayat di-situ.

supaya melegakan Saya fikir di-kawasan Ahli Yang Berhormat daripada Lipis tadi telah mengatakan bahawa di-Pahang susah kerbau jantan.

Jadi di-kawasan saya Kalau berkehendakkan sila-lah datang niembeli di-tempat saya, tetapi harga-nya mahaL sadikit kerana kerbau di-sana gemok2• kerbau jantan banyak.
kerbau jantan Minister but to Enche' Liu Yooq Peq (Rawang): Sir, I wish to make it Mr. Speaker, clear that I stand up here not to criticise the I think that many of the back-benchers of the Alliance Government have been shooting although we know such small sums have been provided for many of the schemes, I think the Minister the fault lies not in in not trying to press for at the wrong bird, because, praise him.

From what I can see.

the Minister has put in quite a lot of thinking into these projects.
but I am afraid that although the sch�mes look .

very good on paper the "drops of water" you can manage to get for the schemes are For example, coconut reha­ too little.

bilitation has only "one drop of � water"-one million dollars-and, as I have said, the coconut rehabilitation scheme is very important because our country is already facing a shortage in the supply of copra.

Therefore it is very important that scheme should be stepped up.

this rehabilitati on , it is a very mechanisation.


Coconut rehabilitation requires a lot of attention and certainly $ 1 million The other scheme,-the is insufficient.

mixed farming subsidy scheme-only enables the Minister to get $34,500- only I / 29th of a "drop of water"!

Then we have smallholders" According to the Minister important scheme for the smallholders, but this only enables him to get for this year $75,000- only I / 1 3th of a only I / 1 3th of one "drop".

that means million dollars.


I am sure that even in the levelling of the so-called new Parliament site, the machinery that is being put to use in that project, have cost much So, we find that these smallholders project for the whole mechanisation Malaya is not even receiving as high an attention And then under exte see that there nsion services is only $164,500 being as the new Par1iament site.

·_, would amount.
·_, would amount.

more than that of we & 809 28 APRIL 1 961 8 1 0 - I / 6th o f a "drop"; spent for this year the and again in the clove industry.

subsidy scheme for this year is only $5.000 which is million.

200 times less than one on padi for their livelihood, For the coconut Then.

fruit · rehabilitation schemes receive only $12,000 for this year; that is only l / 83 of a drop-83 times less than $1,000,000.

seed gardens, only $100,000 is provided-I/10th of a drop.
Padi rehabilitation a very project because most of the scheme is important people in the rural areas depend directly but this scheme receives only is only I / 20th of this year and that S l,000,000.

Double and off-season cropping receives only $108,000 for this year-a little more than l / 10th of a drop.

I am very happy to notice here that the nursery schemes have double· cropping in Kelantan.

The speech devoted to this scheme is quite lengthy.

but the money which is is only $1,750-that than a drop.
is 500 times less being provided $53,000 · So I tried to add up all these it is only "two drops of In the time· of the Prime wonderful and important projects together and I found that the sum allocated amounts to not for this year more than $2,000,000.
honoured phraseology Minister, water" and so I feel that surely those rehabilitated soldiers in the kampongs who are now engaged in the padi fields and other rural activities would appreciate it much more if more money is being provided for their rehabilita­ tion than for the puttin� up a memorial, a new Parliament prestige projects.

Building and other Now, I come to Co-operatives.


I plant and of $5,000,000 often heard that the Minister have quite has a plan for a fertiliser a loan although there is provision for in the in the estimates Short-term Co-operative Credit and $2,750,000 for Medium-Term Co· operative part of this sum is going to be used for this fertiliser plant.

I wonder why, while the Government is able to spend so much money on other things, a scheme that is being Minister of the Government receives so little attention.
sponsored by a Credit, I wonder whether any The co-operative movement is very and the total from the middle· in our country for this year, both in no important amount allocated terms of direct aid and loans, is more than $ 10,000.000, and I would say that unless the Government is pre· pared to put up more money into co­ operative projects, we cannot hope that the kampong people will be able to get rid of exploitation men who are now putting up a very heavy burden on the economy of these people.
Many of the kampong people have never in their lives known that they can be freed of the debts that they all the time in their are aggregating So I hope, Sir, that, while livelihood.

I think the Minister has certainly in a lot of thinking into all these schemes, more money should be forth­ coming to see that these schemes would be a success.
put sa-tinggi2 Enche' Mohamed Yusof bin Mah� mud (Temerloh): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya bangun menguchapkan tahniah kapada Menteri Pertanian atas penera'Ilgan2-nya yang· panjang lebar atas segala yang bersangkut-paut dengan Kementerian-nya khas-nya kapada kita Dewan ini 'am· nya bagi seluroh ra'ayat di-Tanah dan perchakapan-nya itu Melayu ini, berkait juga dengan perchakapan Ahli yang baharu berchakap tadi dengan bagitu chepat ¢lalam masa satu jam sahaja .

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bagi umum Mr. Speaker: Itu ta' ada kena­ mengena.
atau pun la yang telah ia Enche' Mqhamed Yusof bin Ma• mud: Dalam uchapan ini saya perchaya segala serangan itu akan tidak memberi peluang kapada anasir2 subversive untok mengechil2kan menghalang sega berchadang ia·itu untok berjaya sebab melaksanakan pada tahun ini, kita tahu anasir2 ini sentiasa meng· gunakan orang2 kita, terutama sa-kali kapada ra'ayat2 yang bukan warga negara Persekutuan Tanah Melayu untok menghalang segala kemajuan2 ekonomi bagi meninggikan terutama sa-kali daerah luar bandar.
Kerajaan Saya perchaya tidak lagi mengambil satu tindak:an teragu2 untok yang tegas kapada mereka yang sa-macham itu.

taraf hidup 8 1 1 28 APRIL 1 96 1 8 1 2 Saya rasa ini satu perkara lagi untok melebehkan pendapatan pekebun kelapa.
Dalam hal ini saya suka memberi pandangan, ia-itu dalam per­ jalanan saya dari Tanjong Karang sampai ka-Sabak Bemam, saya memerhatikan di-kiri kanan yang berbatu2 jauh-nya itu ada-lah di­ tanam dengan pokok buah kelapa ini boleh mengeluarkan satu barang yang sangat berharga kapada kita ia-itu minyak, tetapi tidak.

nampak satu kilang yang betul2 boleh mengeluarkan minyak dalam daerah itu.

Saya perchaya kalau shari­ kat kerjasama dapat mengadakan kilang untok mengeluarkan minyak.
maka soal kelapa kuncha yang di­ katakan oleh sa-orang Ahli Yang Ber­ hormat tadi akan dapat di-selesaikan.

kelapa.

Daripada saya oleh sebab kedudokan ia-itu membahagikan pemberian menjalankan Saya hendak berchakap sadikit atas Kepala 132 berkenaan dengan Drainage and Irrigation ayer kapada petani2-pesawah2 .

dan wang itu ia-lah untok peruntokan bagi negeri Pahang.
Saya berharap apakala di-jalankan kerja ini dapat kira-nya pegawai2 dari­ pada Drainage and Irrigation ini berunding dengan Jawatan-Kuasa Pembangunan Luar Bandar dan juga orang2 daerah yang akan di-beri pertolongan itu, chara memberi ayer ini tidak-lah sama antara satu negeri dengan satu negeri yang lain-ada kala-nya chara yang di· buat oleh negeri Kedah tidak sa-suai dalam negeri Pahang, sebab saya ber­ chakap bagitu ia-lah oleh kerana saya dapati satu perkara di-suatu tempat yang bemama Kampong Penak di­ mana Kerajaan telah mengadakan satu pertahanan ayer untok 500 ekar paya dengan tidak berunding terlebeh dahulu dengan orang2 yang hendak membuat paya yang besar itu, dan juga dengan mereka2 yang tahu sadikit banyak dalam hal tempat itu.
sa­ Tuan Hajl Mokhtar bin Haji Ismail saya Pertanian dan Tuan Yang di-Pertua.

· satu perkara yang sukar.

(Perlis Selatan): saya bangun menguchapkan terima kaseh kapada Menteri Sharikat Kerjasama, kerana jika kita memandang dalam Anggaran Perbelan­ jaan Kemajuan yang di-untokkan pada ,, tahun ini nampak-nya negeri Perlis sangat bertuah, Tuan Yang di-Pertua.

mendapat anggaran yang banyak.


Walau pun bagitu, Tuan Yang di­ Pertua, berkenaan dengan sharikat kerjasama dalam uchapan Menteri yang berkenaan telah menerangkan untok menghapuskan penyakit padi kuncha.

Pada pendapat menghapuskan padi kuncha ini ada-lah Jikalau kita memandang sa-pintas sahaja kapada kemajuan sharikat kerjasama ini tentu-lah gap ini-lah satu kejayaan yang chapai.
tetapi sa-balek:-nya, kalau kita memandang 'adat dan nampak-lah bahawa manusia itu sen· kapada yang tiasa berkehendakkan senang.

Oleh sebab tabiat manusia itu suka kapada yang senang, manakala mereka hendak meminjam wang dengan tidak payah · meletakkan sa-tengah chagaran mereka itu pergi kapada orang tengah dengan yaan sahaja petani itu dapat memin· jam daripada orang tengah itu.

Oleh sebab orang tengah itu mengadakan chara yang senang kapada petani itu.
maka hendak menghapuskan padi hanya kepercha· tabiat manusia lalu kita kita mengang· Di-hulu tanah yang 500 ekar ini ada pun padi itu membawa perkara ini ia­ dua sungai, chuma ada satu betong ia-itu tempat ayer keluar yang 3 kaki.

Dalam masa diameter-nya hujan mengambil 3-4 hari baharu ayer padi itu 3-4 hari itu kering, maka tenggelam dan akhir-nya mati.

Saya lah oleh kerana saya telah gagal berunding dengan pegawai itu untok membaiki kedudokan ' itu.
Pegawai RIDA di-sana tidak sanggup memberi keterangan kapada Pegawai Tinggi, sebab kata-nya, Pegawai Tinggi itu orang pakar, orang yang pandai ia-itu jurutera.

Saya terpaksa chakapkan perkara itu hari ini sebab saya di­ minta oleh peladang di-daerah itu kapada Dewan untok di-sampaikan ini, kapada Menteri yang berkenaan kbas-nya.

Dan ada beberapa tempat lagi, saya harap wang yang di-sediakan itu dapat berunding dahulu supaya memuaskan hati pehak yang meng­ gunakan wang itu dan juga pehak Kerajaan.
· Sekarang saya hendak berchakap saperti tentang Coconut Rehabilitation 43. yang di-sebutkan dalam Sub-head 8 1 3 2 8 APRIL 1961 8 1 4 stamp.

coming here to nod my approval, and after taking th� cue from the Honourable Members of the feeling is at Opposition, my emotional the point of explosion.

I feel that I will be acting against my conscience I do not say something.
if Sir, it is an undeniable fact that Kedah produced two record crops during the past two years, and there can be no better evidence to prove the success of the Alliance Government through the efforts of the Ministry of Agriculture.
After having suggested the of the Wan Mat Saman development Scheme in Kedah, I am glad to see, under Head 1 32, sub-head 3 1 , that the first stage of this Scheme will be launched this year; also I note with that a sum of $500,000 is allo­ interest cated for the investigation of the Muda River Scheme in diverting the flow of the Muda River into this Wan Mat Saman area.
On completion of this Scheme 240,000 acres of padi land will be able to produce two crops a year and many thousand families will be directly benefited by this Scheme.

Actually, Sir, the Federation as a whole I have to will be benefited.

Therefore, stand up here to congratulate the Honourable the Minister for the real achievements in the past, and I lrust that give his every effort project and see that it success.
he will to speed up this becomes a real of Agriculture he attained yang saya kata· kuncha, sa-bagaimana kan tadi, ada-lah satu jalan yang sukar.

Sa-bagaimana yang saya tahu mengik:ut chara sharikat kerjasama mengambil masa yang panjang, kadang2 wang oleh petani itu tidak yang di-kehendaki dapat, tetapi kalau mereka itu pergi kapada taukeh padi kuncha itu mereka itu dapat meminjam dengan merta.
serta­ Dan penyakit yang kedua dalam padi Jual ia-itu buat di-luar barangkali ini satu pe­ mana ia akan memusnah­ harga pasar $2,000 kemudian grant sa-lama 3 itu tidak di-ambil negeri Perlis.

nyakit baharu saya agak dan penyakit ini lebeh merbahaya daripada kuncha yang kan kita hingga turun-temurun.

penyakit jual janji.

Saya tidak tahu penyakit ini sama ada timbul di-tempat lain, tetapi di-Perlis mashhor.
itu mem� janji ini, mithal-nya, sa-orang punyai tanah dua relong, tanah itu jika di-taksir ia pergi kapada taukeh jual janji tadi menjual tanah-nya itu dengan harga $800.00 sahaja, perjanjian dengan di-ubah semua tahun.

Jika tanah balek, maka tanah itu akan menjadi hak taukeh tadi, dan pada tiap2 tahun ia terpaksa membayar sewa tanah itu kapada taukeh yang membeli tanah itu.

Dengan chara jual janji ini orang telah banyak kehilangan tanah.
Kerajaan Negeri Perlis telah mengambil satu tindakan yang menubohkan Lembaga Penanam Padi.

Akan tetapi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Kerajaan Negeri kekurangan wang untok memberi pinjam kapada orang yang terkena jual janji yang hendak menebus balek Pada fikiran saya ini ada-lah satu perkara yang penting bagi Kementerian yang kenaan memikirkan dan mengadakan peruntokan wang yang lebeh Lembaga Penanam Padi, Perlis.
Maka dengan jalan ini penyakit jual dapat di-hapuskan pus-nya penyakit ini akan memberi pertolongan penanam padi.

janji itu dan dengan terha­ yang besar sa-kali kapada chergas ia-itu telah tanah-nya.
kapada ber­ Enche' Lim loo Kong (Alor Star): Mr. Speaker, Sir, at first I felt a bit reluctant thing, but for fear referred to once again as a rubber to stand up and say some­ that I might be dan sa-malam kita Puan Hajjab Zain binti Sulaiman menguchap­ Tuan Yang di­ tempat sa-olah2 (Pontian Selatan): Pertua, saya berdiri di-sini kan tahniah kapada Yang Berhormat Menteri Pertanian sudah di-bawa Menteri Yang Berhormat ini ka-merata2 melihat satu gambar wayang macham wama padi itu melaut2 dan bagaimana ikan2 dan juga binatangZ ayam itek, kerbau lembu.
Kalau sa-kira-nya changan yang bagini banyak wang-nya yang di-guna­ kan tahun 1961 ini maju jaya maka akan memberi keuntongan kapada kita kelak.

di-bawa ran­ bagini besar-nya, yang Di-dalam banyak2 m1 sa-bagai tabi'at sa-orang ibu yang sa-jati di- 8 1 5 28 APRIL 1 961 816 dalam head 3 1 sub-head 5 Extension Co-operative College and Quarters.

Kita ada $230,000 hendak di-belanja· kan kerana hendak menyambong College itu dan saya perchaya sebab sa-telah datang akan melawat lagi.
Kita akan melihat ramai budak2 perempuan yang di-situ dalam tahun 1961. akan di-lateh Ini apabila telah di-sambong College itu.

melawat dan pada hari akan yang kerja kebidupan dapat Tetapi ada pula satu mereka satu togas yang sangat penting ia-itu hendak melebehkan pendapat orang2 �ampong.

Dengan demikian mereka itu dengan sendiri-nya di-perbaiki.

golongan kapitalis itu tidak lain dan tidak bukan ia-lah hendak menghanchorkan akan tugas2 Kerajaan yang sangat penting itu.
Saya tahu ini-lah kejadian dan kelaziman yang berlaku di-mana2 juga ada shari· kat kerjasama maka di-sana-lah ada kapitalis yang tujuan-nya hendak menghanchorkan kerjasama itu.

perusahaan sbarikat Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah Tuan Yang di· (Kota Bhan Hilir): Pertua.

saya bangun chuma hendak berchakap di-atas dua head sahaja.

Pertama ia-lah head 1 3 1 , Co-operative Development.
Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ada-lah polisi yang di-jalankan oleh Kerajaan untok mendirikan dan menggalakkan Sharikat Kerjasama ada· lab tujuan-nya kerana hendak mening­ gikan pendapatan orang2 kampong2 dengan menghapuskan orang2 tengab.

Memang ada sharikat2 kerjasama yang telab mencbapai kejayaan.

Tetapi di· samping itu ada juga banyak perkara2 yang ra'ayat sekarang ini sedang menderita.
Jadi kalau · sa-kira-nya Kerajaan membiarkan bagitu sahaja dengan tidak mengadakan apa2 sekatan maka sharikat ketjasama itu tidak akan maju -sama sa-kali.

Oleh sebab yang demi­ kian saya harap kapada Kementerian ini membuat satu undang2 mengharamkan segala unfair competi­ tion clan jangan-lah di·benarkan ber­ lawanan yang tidak berseh itu.

Atau pun di-adakan tempat2 atau zone yang khas dan jangan di-benarkan kapitalis masok di-situ.
sharikat supaya Saya sebutkan satu perkara atau Tuan Yang di-Pertua, di-bawah kepada berlawanan di­ · pula ia-itu telor2 a yam yang tidak berjauhan dari situ melihat sub-head 1 1.

5, foultry expert scheme.

di-sampaikan satu kawasan yang padi dan aduan tentang sa-buah sharikat kerja· sama yang telah saya di-dalam menjalankan pekerjaan kisar banyak-lah orang2 kampong di-situ menjadi abli sharikat itu.
Tetapi malang-nya lebeh kurang tengah dua batu jauh-nya daripada sharikat itu ada pula satu sharikat kisar kapitalis.

Jadi apabila telah ada satu sharikat kapitalis maka berlaku-lab antara dua kelang itu.

Di-tempat itu upah mengisar padi satu karong ia-lah sa-banyak 50 sen, ini ia-lah mengikut hal·nya di-kampong sharikat kapitalis harga kisaran itu dengan sa-rendah2- nya.

Jadi orang2 di-dalam kampong itu telah lari berduyun2 pergi kapada sharikat kapitalis itu.
Jadi dengan bagini maka basil sharikat kerjasama memang-lah tidak ada dan akhir-nya .

sbarik.at kapitalis itu menjalankan kisaran padi itu dengan free dengan tidak di-ambil apa2 di-sini dapat-lab satu gambaran bahawa Kerajaan sedang menjalankan head 135 kita ada juga sub-head Sekarang ini banyak orang2 kita memelihara ayam denpn sa-chara besar2an.
Tetapi mereka itu dapat satu penyakit mereka itu terpaksa di-jual dengan harga yang murah clan tidak dapat harga yang baik kerana telor2 ayam dari negeri asing banyak datang ka­ mari lebeh2 lagi telor2 dari Siam.

Jadi oleh yang demikian, saya harap pada Kementerian yang bersangkutan supaya di-adakan satu jalan untok memberi peluang kapada orang2 kita ini menjualkan telor2 ayam mereka itu dengan harga yang baik.
dan jangan· lab di-galakkan kemasokkan telor2 daripada negeri demikian sahaja-saya yang demikian sahaja, Tuan Yang di· Pertua, dapat-lah orang2 kita maju dalam pemeliharaan an yang lain.

Dalam Head 1 35, sub-head 1 2- Buffalo Breeding Scheme.

Saya akan menyentoh juga pada sub-head 8- itu.

Dan pehak itu telah menurunkan luar.

Dengan yang ulang--dengan ayam dan ternak­ upah.

Jadi sabaja 8 1 7 28 APRIL 1961 818 yang akan berhajat itu menchepatkan Purchase of Buffaloes.
Orang2 yang menanam padi sangat-lah kapada a1at2 atau binatang2 menolong mereka mereka itu.

dan ada· akan pekerjaan lab kerbau ini ia·lah satu binatan§ yang kapada kaum tani sangat berfaedah itu.

maka sakira-nya kutuan mengadakan satu chadangan untok memberi kerbau2 kapada pak2 tani yang menanam padi dengan jalan hutang lebeh2 lagi di-pantai timor kerana mereka itu sangat2 kekurangan dalam perkara kerbau itu.

Maka ini-.
Maka ini-.

lab yang akan yang akan menjayakan orangl kita bagi mengeluarkan padi dengan banyak-nya.

menjadi satu sebab Kerajaan Perse· of Farmers Asso­ 37, Extension students.

Secondly, I come to sub-head 26.

Encouragement ciation and subhead Service.

I think these two subheads are very good, because they give a chance to these farmers, especially those in the development schemes.

form associations clubs and so forth to give them a better understanding of agriculture field.
succeed in the agricultural or young farmers' and thus help them to and appreciation to Head 132, sub-heads 18 and 79, of Small Irrigation Rehabilitation Schemes in Pahang.

and Minor Works.

Pahang, all under Drainage and Irriga­ tion, and here, on behalf of the people of Pahang, I wish to thank the Minister of Agriculture for giving us these allo· cations and I am sure they will be very.

very happy to have these schemes given to them.


Enche' Chan Siang Sun (Bentong): I rise to welcome the Mr. Speaker, Sir, put forward by the Honour­ estimates able Minister I am not of Agriculture.

in favour of, or agree to, what the Honourable Member from Rawang said-that these are small "drops of water" in the Development Estimates.

But I would put it this way: these are - the "limelight" put together in these If you were to measure the Estimates.
in these Esti­ length of the estimates the mates for 1961, we would find that estimates for Agriculture are the longest operatives Ministries, and from this we can judge and we can say that the Honourable Minister of Agriculture operatives and well-planned and Co­ of all the schemes.
and Co­ is putting up well-thought Under Head 135- Veterinary, we observation to the farmers is to make, and that is, the Hono\irable Minister teach them how to rear and bring do not know how and, as far have heard about giving us quite a lengthy speech this section, and I am sure Malaya will attain self-sufficiency in meat in a very short period.
Under Poultry, I have a little while we can have a lot of good breeding stock for distribution to the farmers, I think the most important service to be given just to it is of no up their chickens, because use giving them good breeding stocks and good· food for the chickens if the farmers themselves to look after the chickens, as I know, these modem chickens require good husbandry and good management.
If the farmers are unable to do so, the good breeding stock given to them would I come to pig breeding and multiplica­ tion centres under think is a very good to all those pig farmers.

There been long stock until now; in my constituency.

a couple of farmers put in their cation for breeding stock a couple of years ago.

but up to now they still have not got their breeding stock of boar.

I hope that the creation of this centre will give a good supply to these farmers.

subhead 13.
subhead 13.

This I delays in obtaining thing, especially be just a waste.

Then breeding have appli­ Under Head 13(}-A¥riculture, I to make have one or two observations and that is under sub-head 23, Im· provement of Diploma Course-College. "'

To my personal knowledge, this p with grade 11- have the chance to get admis· college caters mostly for scholarshi students and.

only a few private students sion into the college.


I have been personally approached by a lot of students-students saying that their desire to study agri· culture is not given an opportunity sion into this college, opportunity here to appeal to the Minister to see whether there is any possibility of course college they are to get admis­ and I take this expanding this diploma to cater for these private very great but that 819 28 APRIL 1961 820 .
of of no use and meat depend on Now I come to the development grazing reserves and dairy colonies.

Here I would like to stress that grazing reserves should be given more atten· tion at first, because it is having a lot of dairy cattle if you do not have enough grazing reserves, because the milk what the animal eats, and I think that if we have more grazing reserves to feed the cattle they will probably grow fatter.
Regarding the sending of buffaloes to Pahang, as suggested by an Honourable Member from Johore, as far as I know, some of those male buffaloes are very wild and I think in Pahang we have more than enough of these wild buffaloes.

So, in case he should send some, be tamer so that we will not have much trouble to control them (Laughter).

that bad temper in animals is a sort of heredi· tary factor and I therefore hope that the Ministry of Agriculture will take care of that.
I also understand I hope they would I should think to be created to my As regards the question of having a sugar industry in this country-put forward by the Honourable Member from Bachok-if my personal know­ ledge serves me right, !hat it is a good industry m Malaya, because, according personal knowledge, the climate in Malaya is suitable and our Malayan We are also blessed soil is also good.
with the fact that we do not have earthquakes, typhoons and so forth in our country, unlike countries like Japan, Formosa and Cuba which are subject to typhoon.

Some of them are also subject to earthquakes.

Finally, the percentage of sugar in our canes here is much higher compared canes in Japan and Formosa, and this is my personal knowledge.

with the Before I sit down I wish to take the to thank the Minister of opportunity Agriculture once again for work.
his good Mr. Speaker: The time is 12 o'clock, and the sitting is suspended till 8.30 tonight.

Sitting suspended at 12.00 noon.

Sitting resumed at 8.30 p.m. (Mr. Speaker in the Chair) THE DEVELOPMENT ESTIMATES, 1961 House immediately resolved itself into Committee.

(Mr. Speaker in the Chair) Resumption of debate on That the sums of $31,353,636 under Question: Column 5 and $7, 750,000 under Column 6 for Heads 1 30 to 1 3 5 inclusive stand part of the Development Estimates, 1961.

Question again proposed.


Encbe' K. Karam Singh (Daman­ sara): Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is not my to give a learned discourse intention on agriculture in our country.

I will only touch on one small matter, and I hope the Honourable Minister of would assist the poor people on the rubber estates of our country.

Agriculture Mr. Speaker, Sir, for some time the and this small a little milk to drink.
A s without very much know­ rubber tappers in our country have managed to save a little money to buy ·� a few cows and rear them, and by doing this they have been able to give their children we know, the people on rubber estates are very poor people, quantity of milk which they are able to get from their cows is a great help to the children as it forms a very important part of their nutrition.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is also interesting to know that these poor estate labourers, ledge of economics or the co-operative movement, have been, in fact, deve­ loping a sort of co-operative set-up in their rearing of cows.

Each of them has a few cows and they join together and employ one after all their pay the cowherd.

To this extent they work together and are able to have their cows looked after collectively.
But, Mr. Speaker, Sir, the efforts of our rubber tappers in this direction have not always met with encourage­ ment.

Recently in Killinghall are about 30 in Puchong, where there families owning about 200 cows, the heads of families received notices from the management of the Estate that if cows and they jointly or two persons to look Estate 821 28 APRIL 1 961 822 we or cause to augment to the Estate.
their income-at of in the form they did not dispose of all their cows, they would have to leave the Estate in one month's time.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the cows or cattle in that Estate did not cause any damage, they did not pull up any rubber seedlings any other inconvenience On the other hand, it helps the labourers least they have the satisfaction owning a little property of a few cows.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, know that some time ago our Honourable Minister of Agriculture took very quick action to stop the use of arsenic spraying on estates as that had worked to the detriment on estates.

Now, our estate folks and the cow rearing industry on estates is facing a similar threat from the management of an estate which threatens to sack workers who have cows.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, in the interests of the cattle industry, in the interests of our labourers and of their children who get a chance to drink a little milk, I appeal to the Government to see that the estate labourers are able to carry on their cattle rearing without hindrance or without inconvenien ce.
in the interests of cattle Enche' Abdul Aziz bin Ishak: getah, tetapi Tuan Yang di-Pertua, bagi men­ jawab pandangan Ahli Yangi Ber­ hormat dari Bachok berkenaan dengan gula itu dahulu tebu memang ada di­ tanam sa-belum daripada apabila getah di-tanam dan hasil-nya lebeh daripada gula, maka penanaman tebu itu telah di-tinggalkan.
tebu tidak di-tanam sa-bagaimana yang di-jawab oleh Pegawa� Kelantan, mempunyai musim hujan yang lebat sa-hingga 1 10" sa-tahun, gula-nya kurang; tetapi perchubaan dan penyiasatan baka tebu yang baik dan yang sesuai hendak di-tanam itu benar, kerana neg�ri ini Sebab-nya jadi tebu itu Pertanian, .

sedang di-jalankan, Tinggi dan lain2 kawasan di-sana.
Sa­ lain daripada itu kita telah membawa masok jenis ketarai yang sesuai dari India yang boleh mengeluarkan biji yang banyak dan buah yang lebat supaya kita dapat menjual buah jang­ gus dan ketarai itu ka-pasaran tetapi buah-nya itu sukar .sadikit tidak berapa di-gemari orang, kalau di­ mak.an getah-nya apabila kena baju kotor, hanya budak2 sahaja yang suka.

Kalau buat arak boleh, tetapi saya tidak fikir Ahli Yang Berhormat itu bersetuju.
Kalau di-buat arak mutu­ nya kita belum tentu lagi, tetapi kita boleh siasat.

dunia, sebab Bagi menjawab pandangan Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Li pis yang mengatakan di-tempat-nya tidak ada kerbau j antan itu kita boleh hantar, kita akan hantar kerbau kerana kalau kita hantar kerbau jantan yang sangat gemok saperti di-katakan dari Muar Utara, saya fikir kerbau itu (KetawaHlnterruption).
oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat yang sesuai, tidak kuat yang Berkenaan dengan baka ayam belaga itu memang datang-nya di-Kelantan dari Siam.

Ayam siam daging-nya kasar dan keras, tetapi ayam yang sekarang di-pelihara daging-nya mana yang di-tudoh itu.

Pada saya kalau hendak chari ayam Siam itu hal lain, kalau ayam Kelantan betul daging-nya di-Kelantan itu sa-bagai­ fikiran tidak-lah keras tidak keras.
Telor ada-lah satu makanan yang baik' dan telor ayam yang di-keluarkan dari Kelantan itu memang-lah mahal terutama sa-kali telor yang di-keluar­ kan dari Siam.

Oleh kerana barang2 makanan saperti hampas2 dan dedak beras ayam dan sa-bagai-ny a banyak di-Siam serta sangat mewah dan maka itu-lah sebab-nya telor ayam banyak.

Rombongan daripada Persekutuan Tanah Melayu akan melawat ka-Siam untok hendak berunding chara mana kita boleh dapat mengawal telor2 dari Siam tidak mustahak masok dalam negerV ini.
Kira2 dua bulan sudah kita sudah mengadakan perundingan supaya kita dapat mengawal telor2 yang datang daripada luar negeri saperti dari negeri Chimu melalui Singapura dan sa-bagai-nya benarkan masok dalam supaya tidak juga di­ negeri ini.
Berkenaan dengan tanah beris menanam janggus, dan sa-bagai-nya kita mula menyiasat ia-itu kita hendak di-sapanjang ketarai, jambu itu dalam tahun 1956, "' · gunakan tanah beris pantai timor dan juga di-tempat saperti Terong, Machang, Sungai dan kawasan untok golok 823 28 APRIL 1961 824 Perkara hendak menyiasat barangz makanan memangi sudah di-panggil sa­ orang Pakar 4 bulan yang sudah dan penyata-nya belum Sa-orang Mr. Zwankhuizen dari Belanda telah menyiasat atas perkara ini chara mana hampas2 atau kulit kayu boleh di-jadikan barang2 makanan dan sa-bagai-nya.
Saya fikir hanya kita menunggu penyata-nya.

kita terima lagi.

Berkenaan dengan penanam kelapa Ahli Yang Berhormat itu tidak me­ ngerti maka saya hendak jawab berkenaan dengan kelapa.

Ahli Yang Berhormat menda'awa bahawa kelapa itu tua dan lebeh tua daripada umor bapa-nya.
Kepala kalau di-banding· kan dengan pokok2 yang lainl saperti manggis, rambutan dan duku dan sa­ tahan 35 bagai-nya umor2 pokokl itu itu boleh di­ tahun sahaja tetapi kelapa bandingkan dengan umor-nya saperti durian tetapi tua-nya 'itu ada-lah di­ ibaratkan menjadi.

(Ketawa).

pokok kelapa itu 100 tahun pun pokok kelapa ada buah-nya.

tua2 keladi, lebeh tua lebeh Itu-lah sebab-nya Berkenaan dengan perkara yang di· oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat mushkilkan dari Kapar itu berkenaan dengan ban.
Saya mendengar ada bertelingkahan sadikit dengan pakar2 di-sini kerana masalah ini masalah orang2 kampong, di-minta dua rantai tanah supaya hendak membuat ban tetapi orang kampong tidak beri dua rantai, jadi tidak boleh-lah dengan baik dan chukup kuat.

hendak membuat ban -I am question of top soil Ahli Yang Berhormat daripada Larut Selatan maka saya terpaksa berchakap Inggeris .

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afraid on the control, we have not been able to give much thought about it.

I thank him very much just the same.


I know it will cost a lot of money, and I do not think that Governm ent itself can afford to have top soil control.

We have to pass the buck on compan� who started mining opera­ tions.

It is for us to put very strict condition, so that top soil control can to the mining be done: however, we will look into it.

Of course.

you know I am the Minis­ ter of Agriculture and I always take the side of agriculture.

If I have my Coun­ former Legislative In fact.


in 1953 as a way.

I will bare my nails.

Anyway the Sungei Larut was question of desilting started between 1954 and 1955, but we have no information that it needs further desilting.

Member of the cil, I approached the District Taiping, an expatriate District on the question of the flooding of the Matang affluence on to the Larut­ Matang-Gebong padi area where my relatives but.

of course.

the took the side of the mining company ; and as you know, Sir.
the padi land was abandoned were-they are still there­ District Officer Officer, Officer, in favour of mining.

Ahli Yang Berhorma t daripada Dan patut-lah Peladang.

ada•lah pertubohan Kota Star Selatan berkenaan dengan Persatuan Persatuan Peladang ia-lah kerana pertanian ia­ hendak mengembangkan itu hendak menjalankan chara2 ber­ kenaan dengan pertanian.

chara sains dan sa-bagai-nya.


chara yang di-buat oleh sharikat kerjasama ahli ia-itu saloran iktisad, tetapi Persatuan Peladang itu boleh juga menjadi ahli sharikat kerjasama.

Memang di-maksudkan berkenaan dengan orang yang masok daripada Siam untok menuai padi orang sa-tahun biasa-nya.
kerana orang tengah itu ia-itu contractor2 yang berlumba2 membayar sewa yang banyak terpaksa­ lah di-kawasan2 membayar sewa yang lebeh tidak dapat pertolongan2 itu, tetapi kerana hendak nienggalakkan dalam sa-tahun dua ini supaya menuai padi mengguna­ kan dengan jentera atau machanical.

Itu kita akan jalankan kerana chital kita bahawa sangat mustahak dari sekarang di-kawasan2 yang sudah bertambah menanam dua kali sa-tahun.
tujoh ribu Tetapi oleh banyak sa-kali yang tidak mahu Berkenaan dengan Ahli Yang Ber­ hormat daripada Baling, saya memang­ lah berjanji akan menghantarkan sa­ orang pegawai, tetapi oleh kerana pegawai itu belum chukup di-lateh dengan chara rasmi saya mengaku-lah akan menghantiu-pegawail yang che­ kap terlateh.

Berkenaan dengan Ah1i Yang Ber­ hormat daripada Sungai Kesang tidak 825 28 APRIL 1961 826 kerana saya payah-lah saya jawab fikir itu sudah di-jawab banyak kali.
yet until next The Honourable Member for now asked if Rawang speaking just I would agree with him.

Not entirely but I agree with him because we hav� no capacity.

All the schemes that have been started have been started after we over them.

have thought very carefully On coconut rehabilitation, we are not starting rehabilitation year.

What we lire doing just now is get the administration question of smallholders' tion.

we are carrying and we are spending only of money.

So with the rest, of course.


But I am intrigued· about bis words in respect of little drops of water.

Little are all <I.rops of water at the beginning nght-the position will develop-and I would like to quote : "Little drops of "'._ater and little grains of sand make a JDJghty ocean and a fertile to organised.

On the mechanisa­ out a pilot scheme a. small s� land."

· Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Temer­ negeri Pahang di­ loh.

sememang-nya Ranchangan beri keutamaan terhadap Tali A_ye_r •.
teta�i saya hendak terang· kan d1-sm1 Tah Ayer dan sa-bagai­ nya di-Pabang itu.

kerana keadaan sab.

Itu· tanab di-sana bukit-bukau..,.-su di-sana atau lab sebab-nya Tali Ayer Ranc�ang.� · T�li Ayer memakan belanJa J�a d1·band!

!J.ska� dengan kawasae lam.

Pabang Jika d1-banding­ kan dengan Negeri Sembilan gunong-ganang, pada yang lain, biasa-nya tanab untok di-baiki memberi $250 tetapi Pahang kita $400 atau terpaksa membelanjakan lebeh.

demikian juga Negeri Sembilan.


kerana lain dari­ satu ekar chata Tali Ayer bukit-bukau sekali-ta' hen• paling kucbar-kachir dak menunaikan janji-ta' hendak sedikit membayar.

Saya dukachita �erana Ahli itu datang dari Perlis, pk�lau sebetul-nya 1a·1tu pak2 tani dari mereka bendak sedar kelak itu dan insaf, boleh di-fikirkan dan kita beri akuan, beri bantuan atau pinjaman kapada orangl yang kita nampak akan tunaikan janji itu.
atas kemalaratan orangl dari Perlis negeri Perlis I always receive bouquets from the Honourable Member for Alor Star-of col!rse, bumper crops we always have.

This year, one, perhaps, and the Honourable Member for Alor Star will also by it.

(Laughter).

again, it will be a very big benefit Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Pontian banyak kaum gemarkan Selatan berkehendakkan wanita.

Memang kita hendak menjadi penuntut2 wanita di-Maktab Jaya.
Sharikat Kerjasama di·Petaling Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Kota Bharu Hilir, kilang memang-lah dasar Kerajaan .

Persekutuan hendak meng­ galakkan Kilang Padi Sharikatl Kerja­ sama, tetapi ada sa-tengabl negeri Ke­ rajaan Negeri-nya tidak mahu bekerja­ sama dengan Kerajaan ia-itu ber· dasarkan kapada capitalist-ta' tahu, sebab walau pun bagitu perkara yang baharu terjadi di-Kota Bharu, Kelan­ akan siasat dan saya tahu �n i�.

saya di-lain2 mangsa, kerana kelemahan orangl kita.
Saya tabu di-satu tempat, saya ta' bendak sebutkan negeri itu, memang Kilang Sharikat Kerjasama mengeluar­ kan padi sudab beberapa lama dan sa· orang taukeh hendak mendirikan-nya, kerana konon-nya dekat ada tentangan sangat dengan mesjid, tetapi sesudah taukeh itu memberi 3 guni beras sa­ ekor ketbau dapat licence dan o�ang dengan bersunggohl.
itu pun bersetuju Itu satu daripada ah yang kita sendiri mahu jaga, ka au kita senditi mahu terima macham itu, beli beras 3 guni dengan sa-ekor kerbau bendak mendirikan sharikat-itu tempat pun orangl kita menjadi Berkenaan dengan Ahli Yang Ber­ hormat dari Perlis Selatan sudah berjanji, perkara ini memang-lab kita me:r;ig!

"Dbil perhatian, tetapi dukachita �e?ik1t memang-lah jikalau jual janji modal­ m1 orang2 yang mengeluarkan nya.

k�ra:r;i� .
k�ra:r;i� .

ia !rurang perchaya dan yakm 1an11 1tu, 1uga kerap kali ia ta' menunaikan janji.

Saya ta' kan di-sini, t. Ada-I:ih berkenaan dengan sediki .

k:ema1uan Sharikat Kerjasama sunggoh pun Perlis menjalankan terlebeh dahu!u daripada negeri yang lain, Enche' Abdul Aziz bio Ishak: Boleh Perlis yang jadi tempat itu juga (Ketawa).

Saya tetap1 keadaan negeri da-lah On a point of information-a tempat yang saya maksudkan itu bukan-lah tetapi saya sebutkan di-Kota Bharu-Krian.
Toan Haji usah sebut­ berapa?

Ahmad bin Abdullah: 827 28 APRIL 1961 828 sudah jawab berkenaan dengan Ahli dari Kota dengan telor tadi.

Bharu Hilir berkenaan Sir, in reply to the Honourable be controlled Member for Bentong, I thank him for saying kind words to me and about the wild buffaloes in Pahang.
Of course, it is important that buffaloes properly ; as I have said on many occasions in this House that the wildest buffaloes can be caught in the Temerloh area, because the owner his himself does not know where buffaloes are wandering.

Only when he wants to sell the buffaloes he asks somebody to catch the buffaloes and sell them.

Usually the buffaloes belonging instead to another person are sold of his own buffaloes.

(Laughter).

Sir.
(Laughter).

Sir.

in reply to my Honourable to given by the Veterinary In respect of most of example, the better friend from Damansara, in fact, this is the first time that I hear that the estates had been unfair to the estate rubber tappers.

the assistance Department-for breed of Sindhi bulls distributed estates-in most cases the estate management has been very co­ operative.

one regarding fact, I have no power over the manager.
and colleague, the Minister of Labour, can take it up-and probably Honourable Member himself also.

We always encourage; but in fact at the moment about 35% of the best breed of Sindhi bulls are sent to the ).

estates.

I do not know about Estate.

In Killinghall I think my Honourable (Applause estate this the to propose provision It gives me great pleasure an extremely substantial under these Heads in the First Year of the Second Five-Year Plan Estimates.
will observe that most of the projects included are necessarily make a substantial contribution the improvement Development Members large.

They to of living conditions.

Honourable must be to keep pace with, and of the Under Head 136-Postal Services­ a total sum of $2,498,81 5 is being provided for.

The Postal Services Department has been steadily extending its services, but my Ministry realises that this expansion accelerated to assist in the development country.
The Second Five-Year Plan makes provision Development for a large number of additional Post inadel:{uately Offices in areas at present served, and also for the extension of existing offices where the rapidly increasing avoidable provision Offices which have proved popular and beneficial areas.

As Honourable Members are aware.

with the opening of each new Post Office, or Mobile Post Office, another facility is established, provided convenient facilities for saving with complete security.
fore benefits both the individual the country.

delay.

Also included in are additional for Post Office Savings and the people are the Mobile Post to those living in the isolated business has caused un­ It there­ and Most of the projects provided for Question put, and agreed to.

1 ,353,636 under , The sum of $3 Column 5 and $7,750,000 under Column 6 for Heads 1 30 to 135 inclusive ordered to stand part of the Development Estimates.
Heads 136-140, 142 and 14+--- in the year 1961 are in respect of Post buildings, Offices to replace the existing meet increases which are inadequate to in Postal traffic.

In order to standar· dise all Post Office counters, item "Rehabilitation to existing Post Offices" is also entered in the Estimates.

provided will also meet major tions to Post Office buildings in Federation.
The sum altera­ the and Extensions a special With regard to Head 1 37-Roads The Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications (Dato' V. T. Sambantban): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that Heads 1 36 to 140, 142 and 144, totalling $ 116,571,976 under column 5, and $ 13,900,000 under column 6, be approved.

and Bridges-a total expenditure of $35,293,602 is being provided.
This will meet tion of new roads, and improvements Federal Road System, to the existing in order to keep pace with the and increased usage of road transport, the cost of the construc­ 829 28 APRIL 1961 830 in of roads.

I am glad to and reconstruction of weak for develop-and realigning of roads in rural bridges enable the necessary the programme are the strengthening also the construction and underdeveloped areas in the timber bridges, and also included country.
This will access, and hence facilities ment of these areas to proceed.

This state here that we are now ready to programme of rural roads construction go out to tender for the construction was started in 1960 when the Rural of the bridges at Kemaman, Bu.kit Development Plan was launched, and Kuang, Paka and Dungun.

Work on it is anticipated that 1 ,200 miles of Kerteh bridge, for which contract was new rural roads will be constructed proceeding, and 1965.
With the steadily increasing traffic on roads, it is essential pavement capacities that they be made suitable for the of heavier and more economical Other Federal Routes, are 8 bridges vehicles.

ferries, which and a source of delay to road users, weak road linking Mersing and Endau, will be replaced during the year.

The which connects with the new Rompin­ provision, in the Estimates, for the continuation started, within the above framework.
that (called Tanah Puteb bridge) bas and commenced, tenders having been use accepted.

Among the projects under Referring to New Road Construc­ new projects tion, works on the Pekan-Batu Palik and the bridges and now under construction, to maintain improvements to the narrow and work on the bridge at Kuantan also allows Endau road.
by let out last year, is As a start, weak and for additional be improved, are expensive of projects already road and the Slim R iver-Tanjong Under Route I, it is proposed to Malim road will commence this year, the existing road network.

of Bridge and provision is also made to meet complete the construction No.

33/5 south of Ipoh, work on which the cost of survey and investigation started last year.
The Segamat and of the proposed major extensions to the Sungei bridges and the Tanjong Bridge in Jitra and a few Bailey Under the American Development bridges in Johore, which have been Loan Fund Programme 3 , the bridges to at Kerteh, Tanah Puteh and Dungun a source of continued irritation road users through Johore, as well as will be built.
The Kuala Lumpur­ tbe roads at 9th mile south of Port Swettenbam road, the larges t Seremban and 27th mile north of individual road project started under Kuala Lumpur, all these will be this Heading, will worked in 196 I.

Further to that, there this year.

Expenditure will also be the realignment of roads of plant to be used on these projects south of Seremban, work on this is is also being provided.

We are very already proceeding and it will con- grateful to the American people and tinue.
At the same time, there will be completion to the Alor Star bridge and streng- thening of the Krian Road which links Touching on Head 1 38-Water Sup- various parts.

of the southern approach they have given us.

their Government for the help that also be continued of $ 18,540,604 for the purchase plies-a total expenditure is provided, and $ 1 3 ,900,000 of which · will be supplied from the loan.
Under Route II, 12 bridge projects to replace existing are schemes Included in these proposals financed by loans from the Federal projects, and the re-grants, schemes financed by State services.

Governments, and also schemes by Municipalities.

implemented will be undertaken, weak timber bridges by permanent stretches.

Of these, 4 bridges are Government, schemes financed by continuation mainder, new to be to road over Genting Simpah.
In this Bentong-Temerloh road, and Maran- field, emphasis is being placed on the Kuantan road, will also increase the need to improve and be carried out.

supply of water to the population, and in the rural areas.
Based on previous on the work of replacing some of the records, it is estimated that the expen­ East Coast ferries by permanent diture of $ 1 05,678,000 over the next Under Route ill, start will be made Improvements continue to 831 28 APRIL 1 96 1 832 • the country throughout ·five years will increase the supply of treated water by 45 million gallons per day, and provide an additional 1 .750,000 people with piped water.
Wherever possible, the existing are being extended to the rural areas, but in other cases, new will supplies have to be provided which will meet the demand of the rural areas only.

supplies to urban areas for a new proposal the lpoh Govern­ several to vacate their buildings, Ipoh, and the Survey Office in Taiping.

The completion of ment Offices would enable Federal Departments present unsatisfactory and in other cases would provide much needed accommodation for other Federal Departments in Ipoh.
The project at Port Swettenham incor­ porates the original office for the Harbour Master, with entered in the other accommodation with the Five-Year North Klang Straits proposal.

The main items under the provision for and Extensions Renovations an office block for the Negara are Istana staff, new second floor accom­ modation, of the Istana Negara Demesne.

This year's provision House is for completion paration, and the approach viaduct.

Piling and foundation work will, it is hoped, be started this year.
Plan in connection and also expenses new Parliament on account at · Istana of site pre­ for the The new items for which funds are sought will provide building office blocks for the Ministry of Education, Ministry of Health and Social Welfare, Federal Government Offices at Kota Bharu, and a National Memorial.

funds are also required for Additional alterations to and reconditioning of Government Offices and Federal buil­ .
dings to improve working conditions, and in connection changes in requirements accommodation, as Ministries move into premises vacated by other offices having different requirements.

with the inevitable of office The programme for water supplies are, schemes from with State Govern­ has to be considered under several schemes which I have just described.
Those financed by Federal grants in fact, continuation 1 960, and financial provision has been requested in full for ten schemes, to enable most of the works to be com­ pleted this year.

Next comes the schemes for which loans had already been negotiated ments and signed.

They include several water supplies in Negri Sembilan, Krian, and the Lower Perak Water Supply Schemes in Perak, Water Supply improvements in Pahang, Schemes for Yen, and Alor Star Water Supplies of extensions in Kuala Trengganu.
There are also schemes loans have yet signed.

They include the Kulim Water Supply, the extension of the Tampin/Alor Gajah scheme in Malacca, the new Pahang Schemes, the Pantai Valley Extensions in Kuala Lumpur, the new Damansara Water Supply Scheme in Selangor and Phase II of the Klang Gates Water Supply Schemes.

Lastly, there are the F.L.D.A.

Schemes, which the Federal Government.

A nominal provision of $2,000,000 quested, as the extent of the works is unknown.
in Kedah, and the completion are to be financed by been applied for, but not has been re­ for which new Turning to Head 1 39-Government of the total sum of $ 1 1,347,408 sho­ than Housing), under the Second Five-Year Buildings-{other wing a total expenditure which is one-third allocated Plan, these funds are sought for con­ tinuation also for works which are scheduled for commencement the second category are the Govern­ ment Offices for the Post Offices at Malacca, the Government Offices in works started in 1 960, and this year.
Under I now come to Head 140-Public Works Plant-for which $36.187,602 are to be expended during the year.

Subheads 3 to 6 are continuation items.


Subhead 7-Plant for Rural Develop­ ment Programmes 1961·65, this plant comprises the various modem earth· moving machinery necessary for road construction provided for the purchase of new plant in 1960 has been spent, and the plant is further $ 11 .2 million for the purchase of extra plant is urgently required to Engineers satisfy road now fully embarked on their new programme.

now working of the State in the field.

A the needs .
A the needs .

The $10,000,000 new 833 28 APRIL 19�1 834 surfaced throughout and adequately at centralised to quarries to provide a system quarries In order to improve road surfaces and to reduce annual maintenance costs, it is essential of large centralised the country, and it is our intention do so.

These fully mechanised would be able to serve a road system of 50 miles radius from the quarry.
The road system of Malaya is devel­ oping rapidly, roads can be best provided by machi­ quarries nery installed where large electrically-operated cru­ shing plant can be utilised to the full to produce crushed stone at large and economic prices.

has been complete for the first 4 centralised quarries.

Kuala Quarry in Province Wellesley, Dipang Quarry Batu Caves Quarry in Selangor, and Lunchoo Quarry in Johore.

At these quarries, premix plants for resurfacing of roads will be provided.
With such centra­ lised control.

it will now be possible for us to proceed with the incorpora­ tion of rubber in the· bitumen, so that roads will Detailed planning They are Penanti in Perak, become standard practice throughout the country.

This is a significant step in the further improvement of our roads.

For the major road works such as complete as all existing the Slim River deviation, new teams are required, plant, and plant on order is committed Programme.
Development to the Rural A provision of $ 1,000,000 is asked for further extensions Workshops, with the increased nised plant.

which are required to cope holding of mecha­ to State and District _ the laying of centralised of the on the continuation of the $4.2 million programme for the replacement older type quarters, for the Public Services.

and $2.5 million on housing sub-standard labourers Turning to the last Head, i.e.
Head policy of my Ministry will 144-Telecommunications-a total ex­ penditure of $ 19,500,032 is entered.

I would like to say briefly that the principal to meet the public be to continue demand for telecommunications service within the limits of the capital invest­ ment outlined in the Second Five-Year Development Plan.

Thus, the existing microwave scheme between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore will be ex­ tended to Ipoh, Penang, Sungei Patani and Alor Star.
New Automatic Tele­ phone Exchanges will Malacca, Seremban, Petaling Jaya, Butterworth, Taiping and Sungei Patani, and large extensions to existing Tele­ phone Exchanges at Kuala Lumpur, Ipoh and Penang will also be carried out.
be provided at I would also like to mention that bringing develop­ attention in rural areas to will be directed particular towards telecommunications ment in rural areas, and a total of 1 00 Public Call Offices will be installed throughout the Federation, the total installed approximately to Federal Land Development Autho­ rity schemes, such as recently completed small automatic exchange in the Bilut Valley, will be provided, and rural automatic exchanges will also be provided in remote areas, such as Penggerang and Sungei Rengit in Joh ore. 300.
Telephone facilities In conjunction with these improve­ cycle on Federal roads.

ments to our roads, it is intended to provide, wherever possible, tracks and footpaths in the vicinity of towns and villages Members may have observed how very congested traffic is becoming in the vicinity of and it is felt that the cycle and footpath tracks will increase road-safety and cyclists for pedestrians and, in fact, for .

all road-users.
all road-users.

towns and villages, of these provision As regards Head 142-Government Housing-showing a total expenditure of $7,103,913, it is proposed to spend Telephone subscribers in the larger towns, such as Kuala Lumpur, Malacca, Ipoh and Penang, will, in due course.

be able to dial their own towns with­ trunk calls between these out the assistance of a telephone operator.
My Ministry will also continue to direct its attenti6n extension and improvement phone and telegraph services to overseas to the neighbouring of South­ and countries of the East Asia, Commonwealth.

In this context.

I to the of tele­ countries territories, in particular, 835 28 APRIL 1961 836 · would like to mention that negotiations at Penang.

The with the Cable & Wireless are proceeding, for the Federation Govern­ ment to take over the Cable & Wireless Installations total provision.
under this Head will cover the Phase I Plan, to enable the Department to pursue the policy of providing telecommunications international public demand, particularly areas, and also to control the Telecommunicati services standards to meet the in rural external ons Service.
to the best of the Five-Year job being done by them, our objective must be to give jobs to see that the jobs are done as economically and as quickly as possible, so that labour is advantageously used and the job is done early in order that the country can benefit.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Government should provide rock-breaking machines and bulldozei;,s to these people working on the Kuala Lumpur/Bentong Road, so that their labour will be more productive effort would not be unnecessarily wasted and the job done much sooner.

and a great deal of their Enche' K. Karam Singh: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I refer to Head 137, Roads and Bridges, sub-heads 1 to 4 inclusive.

What I am going to say, I hope, will find support from those Honourable Members who happen to come from Pahang.
Sir, we know very well that the Kuala Lumpur/ Bentong Road and the Kuala Kubu/ Raub Road are two of the main links-motor road links­ between the West Coast and Pahang, and through these two roads further on up the East Coast to the States of Trengganu and Kelantan.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, while an effort has and been made to straighten and widen the Kuala Lumpur/ Bentong Road, no effort has been made to straighten widen the Kuala Kubu/ Raub Road.
of putting the Although the intention people to work on this Kuala Lumpur/ Bentong Road was primarily not to straighten the road but to get some inconvenient since they away from Kuala Lumpur, have now been put on to the job, it is hoped that they and up-to-date them in their work.
will be given modem to assist rock-breakers were put on Mr. Speaker, Sir, in October, 1 958, a group of unemployed persons of our country picketed for jobs in front of the Federal House and most of those people who were picketing to work on the Kuala Lumpur / B entong Road for the purpose of straightening that road, cutting out comers and widening the road.
It is almost two and a half years that these people have been working on that road and all the tools that they have got are changkols and pickaxes in their struggle against the granite mountain.

In this case, I think that the Govern­ ment is trying to drag on the job so that these people will be engaged all the time with their changkols and pickaxes trying to hew and cut out huge mountains.
In my view, the Government may be dragging on this job so that it will take as long as possible and the Government will not have to worry about getting new jobs for these people, who are already working there.

But, Sir, consider the provision of employment for workers, and when we consider the when we would not be exaggerating if I say that if the Government straightens the Kuala Lumpur/Bentong Road and the Kuala Kubu/ Raub Road, the Govern­ ment would be doing a service to humanity.
I say so, because every time people travel along these roads they get headaches and bouts of vomitting and they cannot get out of bed for a day or two-and I am sure our women and children suffer most because are weak and they are constitutions unable to stand all these windings and cornerings that the journey entails.
their Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have seen posters put up by the Government which read, "Accidents can be prevented"-we know that accidents can be prevented, prevented not only by road but they can also be prevented if the Government provides adequate roads.
So, have been put up by Government, think the Government should start the since the posters but they can be users of the good and I Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think that I unemployed picketeers 837 28 APRIL 1 961 838 �hese two ball rolling by straightening roads that I have mentioned, because Mr. Speaker, Sir, many of the accidents-some resulted in serious injuries and these cases have come to my knowledge of them fatal-have .

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Mr. Speaker: ing the same point!


You have been repeat­ Regarding and widened, Enche' K. Karam Singh: the usage of these roads-if these two roads are straightened they will accessible Coast and this in turn would lead to increased lead to the further economic ment of that State.
make Pahang much more to the people of the West trade and would also directly develop­ Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think that Honourable Members who come from Pahang would like to see all these advantages accrue to the State and I am sure they will rise iri ·support of what I say, so that the people of who want to Pahang and the people travel to and from Pahang will benefit.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, coming now to Head 1 38, Water Supplies, I would 30, sub-head 38, like to refer to page Damansara Water Supply, Selangor, and sub-head 49, Klang Gates Water Supply Scheme-Phase II.
These schemes as for the State of Selangor and we hope that they will be further extended so that the people of the State will be able to get good Sir, it is one of the strange things in this modern world that whereas some people have drinks which come all the way from England form of whisky and brandy, there are people in our State, the of the kampongs and estates who could not have a decent glass of water to drink.

and Europe in the poor people water.


bath-in fact, they get dirtier and they get all sorts of sores and itches.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, on another estate in Selangor, the Bukit Raja Estate, we find that water is in short supply and the labourers are unable to sleep at night because they have to collect water; also q�arrels arose among the labourers because of the shortage of water-they have to compete for it and that leads to trouble.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is a certain place in Selangor where the people have to pay for the water that they get and they have to employ persons to fetch the water for them.

In view of all these, I hope that the Government will take early action to extend the piped water facilities people in Selangor State.

to all the rural Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to When Karang-Sabak along this important highway touch on the Tanjong Bemam Road included under the who has former Head.
Sir, anyone travelled would know that this road consists of yellow sand, dust and stones that show through the sand.

When the road is dry, the dust flies about and goes into the kampongs, and the people in the kampongs breathe the dust in.

it is wet, the road is muddy and very difficult to use.

Sir, anyone who road travels by motor-car along this gets a very good drubbing, and if the car that is used on this road would require to be sent for greasing, the passenger also would require some attention.
Sir, the Tanjong Karang­ Sabak Bemam area is a very important area in our country economic activities: Government embarks on any other programme of developing kampong roads, I would suggest ment should, first of all, improve Tanjong Karang-Sabak Sir, in fact, there was an abor-· tive attempt by the Government to improve this road-only about two chains of the road have been well macadamized and after that the Government gave up the effort.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I therefore hope that the Government will devote itself again to and it throbs with So, before the the Bernam Road.

that the Govern­ Mr. Speaker, Sir, in the Kuala Selangor area, we find that on certain which I have visited, estates, is not water which should drinking-it would be more suitable for buffaloes to bathe in-and the result is that people fall sick the water be used for and are - �-._ debilitated.
They have to bathe with the same water too and the result is that they do not get clean after their 839 28 APRIL 1961 840 this task which should receive top priority.

Enche' Hussein bin To' Muda Hasan , ia­ Sunggoh itu saperti sa-bagai­ Kami (Raub): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa­ senang2 sa-kali kerja dalam dunia lah membuat chadangan tetapi tidak tahu melaksanakan chadangan itu.

Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Damansara tadi menyebutkan hal jalan dari Gap sampai ka-Raub.
Kami pendudok di­ kawasan Raub suka jalan mana yang ada sekarang ini.

tidak suka orang datang ka-situ hendak jual koyok, biar-lah jalan yang ada sekarang ini (Tepok) jalan itu telah 80 tahun ada di-situ.

pun j alan itu bengkang-bengkok derebar dari Pahang boleh di-katakan champion membawa motokar (KeJtawa).

Oleh itu saya tidak menyokong pendapat Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Damansara.

Saya bangun bukan-lah hendak "menegakkan benang basah" benar.
tetapi menegakkan perkara yang Kerajaan sentiasa berikhtiar melebar­ kan jalan baik supaya Kami pendudok di-sana kerana lori2 yang datang dari luar negeri Pahang kayu di-situ Traffic Ordinance, mereka membawa lori-nya tidak mengikut peratoran.

Berbalek saya kapada perkara jalan tadi, kami di-sana suka jalan yang ada sekarang ini.
jangan berlaku "accident" dukachita yang mengambil segala Road itu, membuat benteng yang tidak menghiraukan tentang talipon, ada satu jalan yang akan di-buka oleh Kerajaan tidak lama lagi ia-itu daripada Raub sampai ka­ , maka perhubongan Cameron Highland di-antara satu tempat ka-satu tempat itu "telephone booth" patut Dalam Meshuarat Budget yang lalu saya ada mengatakan ada kampong yang berkehendakkan "telephone booth", di-harap Kementerian ini me­ ngambil perhatian yang berat itu.

di-adakan.
di-adakan.

atas hal Enche' Hanafi bin Mohd.

Yunus ya dengan seluroh pendudok2 maka dapat-lah pen­ (Kolim Utara): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya di-sini bagi bandar Kulim lagi sa-kali menguchap­ kan sa-tinggi2 terima kaseh kapada Kementerian ini kerana memberi peruntokan berkenaan dengan water supply yang banyak.
Tuan Yang di­ Pertua, saya percha peruntokan ini dudok2 Kulim yang telah lama tidak merasa ayer tidak sa-rupa dengan tempat2 lain mak:a pada: kali ini dapat­ lah pendudok2 itu merasai ayer yang senang.

Tetapi saya juga berasa bimbang kalau2 ranchangan menjalan­ kan kerjasama ini menjadi kalabatas.

Kerana yang saya dapat tahu ia-itu Kolam Ayer membawakan ka-sabelah Kulim dalam negeri Kedah itu ia-lah letak-nya di-Seberang patut-lah persetujuan lebeh dahulu.
Maka Tuan Yang di­ dengan sebab itu-lah, Pertua, saya takut kalau2 persetujuan ini lambat terchapai.

Tetapi walau macham mana sa-kali pun saya.

harap, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sanaan Menteri yang berkenaan dapat memberi nasihat kapada kedua2 negeri itu supaya dapat di-jalankan kerja­ sama2 itu dengan sa-berapa segera.
Kerajaan hendak mengambil dengan kebijak­ Perai, maka Berhubong dengan Water Supply, di­ Raub telah ada satu Water Supply semenjak tahun 1 95 1 , perbelanjaan-nya kalau saya tidak silap lebeh kurang $525,000 yang di-belanjakan wang pinjaman.

Dalam kawasan Raub pada masa sekarang ini orang telah ramai, maka saya ini membuat penyiasatan-nya sama ada reservoir ini boleh menchukupi bagi pendudok di-kawasan sa-mula yang ada sekarang harap Kementerian daripada Raub itu.
Sekarang saya hendak berchakap tentang Government Buildings.

Di­ Raub pada masa sekarang ini rumah I dan II untok Pegawai Bahagian sangat kurang.

Saya harap ini menyiasat keadaan rumah Kera1aan yang ada di-Raub dan bangunan yang lama itu patut di-baharui.

Dan juga Kemente?-an Mudah2an pendudok2 Kulim tidak-lah lagi merasa susah sa-bagaimana saya terangkan dalam Dewan ini pada masa yang lalu.
Barangkali saya ingat tiga tahun yang lepas tidak­ empat puloh datang · ayer kalau sa-kira-nya lah merasa musim kemarau maka ayer panchor yang keluar itu keluar saperti bueh dan saperti ayer kopi.
Jadi, Pertua, kalau ini dapat di-jalankan maka estimate yang telah di-untokkan di-dalam Tuan Yang di­ ranchangan sa-kira-nya 841 28 APRIL 1961 842 bantuan ini maka saya perchaya bandar Kulim ini dapat di-luaskan atau di-panjangkani Iagi dalam bandar2 yang berhampiran kechil2 saperti Junjong, Padang Serai dan Lunas.

peri kapada j ambatan di-beberapa buah tempat saperti di-Kemaman.

Bukit Kuang dan Kerteh, Dungun kalau tidak salah saya .

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Mr. Speaker: Chakap-lah (Ketawa) Tuan Yang di-Pertua, maka saya nanti di-1awab-nya.

· 'd k Kedah dan b h p da h yang di-nyatakan supaya perkhidmatan berharap-lah sangat kapada Menteri ini supaya datang ka-negeri Pulau Pinang kedua2 buah negeri ini dapat di­ segerakan.

Muda: Ini-lah beberapa akan di-tukar kapada jambatan.

Tentang chadangan itu saya sa-kali lagi menguchapkan terima ka�h Enche' Mohamed Asri bin Haji kapada Menteri Yang Berhormat.
Enche' Mohamed Asri bin Haji tempat yang mengemukakan kapada kampong itu saya rasa suka-lah atau rancbangan tahun 1960 dahulu saya juga pernah dalam ranchangan pembangunan 5 tahun yang kedua.

Tetapi tidak-lab saya nampak kenyataan mengemukakan dalam Dewan ini di-Pasir supaya membuat jambatan Mas dan jalan Bacbok.

Dalam jawapan barangkali Menteri yang berkenaan itu kalau tidak Muda (Pasir Puteh): Tuan Yang di-Maka mudah2an pada tahun hadapan Pertua, saya berchakap di-atas kepala .
beberapa tempat peri dan jambatan 1 36 kepala kechil 1 0 dan 23 atas yang akan di-tukar itu akan selesai.

perkara bangunan Post Office di- Kelantan, bagaimana Menteri itu mem- Berbubong dengan kepala ini dalam buat satu estimate bagi membuat bangunan Post Office di- baharu di-tempat2 kepala kecbil itu, tentu-lah oleh sebab di-tempat itu bangunan itu sudah tua atau tempat salah ingatan saya akan di-masokkan 1tu ti a munasa a .
a ta un yang Ialu saya telah menyatakan dalam Dewan ini tentang keadaan Post Office di-bandar Pasir Puteh yang tidak dapat di-dengar.

saya katakan besar-nya lebeh kurang Kepala kechil 9, peruntokan sa- 4 kali bilek jual tiket loteri, maka banyak 15 million kerana Balai2 Raya saya manakala saya Yang Berbormat Menteri itu.

beliau telah memberi pengakuan akan memberi melaksanakan pertimbangan.
kepala 1 36 itu maseb-lah tidak Balai2 Raya di-kampong dalam negeri2: membuat pembabagian2 memuaskan ia-itu satu rancbangan ini dapat-lah estimate untok membuat bangunan yang adil.

kerana itu akan dapat-lah baharu.

Boleh jadi sa-sudah saya kampong2 itu menerima pembahagian meminta dalam Dewan ini bahawa atau merasa ne'mat peruntokan ini, Menteri itu akan memberi pengakuan, basil daripada chukai2 mereh yang oleh itu jangan-lah tinggal dalam Dewan ini sahaja.
Kepala 1 39, kepala kechil 46 kerana Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kepala 1 37 bangunan baharu bagi Pejabat dalam kepala kechil 3 tentang ke-jaan Federal di-Kota Bharu, mudah2an nyataan Menteri Yang Berhormat dapat di-segerakan dan akan dapat-lah di-Kelantan itu ber­ usaha2 membaiki jalan2 di-Pantai Pejabat Pelajaran Timor, ini saya menguchapkan sama.
Kepala 140 kepala kechil 7, mudah2an perkara ini ak an berjalan perun tokan sa-banyak 1 1 juta sa-ratus dengan maju-nya dan akan dapat siap dua puloh ringgit kerana menjalank:an dengan sa-berapa membuat satu ingatan supaya di-dalam pembabagian wang un­ Kepala kechil 1 0 dan 1 3 tok memberi peruntokan kapada.

segara-nya.

ranchangan2 pe ngakuan itu ada-lah sher mereka 1961 hingga 1965 ia-itu di-dalam-nya.
ini dan ini Kera­ kerana alat2 dan meshen2 untok Pem- Kepala kechil 8 ia-itu-lah project2 bangunan Luar Bandar.

Berkenaan yang di-buat di-bawah bantuan pin- dengan ini juga sa-bagaimana yang jaman wang dari Amerika.

Sa- saya katakan tadi dalam pembahagian bagaimana kenyataan Menteri Yang alat2 itu kapada semua negeri di-minta­ Berhormat itu bahawa daripada wang lab Menteri Yang Berhormat ini mem­ ini akan dapat di-buat .pertukaian bagi alat dengan sa-cbara adil.
Kerana 843 28 APRIL 1961 844 a flowery Minister, of the speech by plies.

In the course Minister eloquently made Sa-benar-in this country.

The Honourable apabila alat2 itu tidak di-l:>ahagikan Sir, he did maka kerja2 itu kurang the Honourable dengan adil lanchar dan boleh menyebabkan timbul comment that the principal policy of pula tudohan2 yang mengatakan pega-his Department would be to meet the menjalankan needs and the demands of the people wai2 itu kurang chekap kerja2-nya atau sebagai-nya.
nya kerja2 itu bukan-lah tergantong kapada pekerja yang chekap sahaja speech to this House when he led us tetapi tergantong juga kapada alat2 and the people of this country to a yang chukop.

Sa-bagai satu mithal, fairy-land.

As far as water is con­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, pada Dabong .

sampai ka-Jeli di-Ulu questions.


K;elantan, oleh kerana kurang sa-hingga terpaksa-lah sa-buah tractor many stand-pipes, yang di-beli oleh Kerajaan Negeri Lumpur untok jalan Penggawa di-hantarkan installed ka-sana kerana membantu usaha itu ding to the rate of growth of population supaya kerja itu berjalan dengan sa-in this country-we understand every berapa segera yang chepat.
Baharu2 ini year the growth is three per cent-and dapat-lah kita mengikuti dalam surat taking into account that this information khabar bahawa Yang Amat Berhormat is correct, there must be an adequate Timbalan Perdana nyatakan bahawa pembinaan jalan itu various centres where there are no sedang berjalan dengan baik-nya.

private connections for houses.

For especially or in Selangor, have been in the last two years?
Accor­ Menteri telah me- number of pipes every year in the ia-lah jalan dari-cemed, I would like to alat got ready the answers for them.

How I wonder whether he has ask him certain in Kuala Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Kepala 144, instance, I would like to Klang Road, a place between Petaling Jaya and the Town Limit of Kuala quote 4!

mile talipon untok ke- people.


Repeated requests and demands di-buat peti2 talipon di-sana, Department had not given any thought ia-lah Wakaf Raja to an area where there kepala kechil 53-Telephone Call Offices in Rural Areas.

Dalam perkara ini, saya rasa negeri Kelantan maseh Lumpur, with a population of 10,000 terlalu kurang peti2 gunaan orang2 kampong.
Mithal-nya have been made over the last two years dalam kawasan Pasir Puteh ada dua for the installation of · pipes, either tempat yang saya rasa kalau boleh public stand-pipes or connections to Menteri ini mengambil perhatian ia-itu private homes.

The Public Works patut-lah are about 10,000 yang pertama-nya ia-itu satu tempat yang letak-nya di- people.

It is not very far from Kuala antara sempadan Trengganu bemama Lumpur; it is just 4!

miles from Kuala Bukit Yong dengan kawasan Pasir Lumpur.
There is water supply in Puteh, dan satu lagi di-Kampong Petaling Jaya; there is water supply up Terusan ia-itu satu kampong yang ter-to the Town Limit of Kuala Lumpur, jalan yang menghubong-but between these two places, in the letak di-tengah2 kan di-antara bandar Pasir Puteh dengan bandar Machang.

Di-antara jalan itu, water supply.

I hope that when the saya rasa belum ada satu pun di-.
Minister implements his programme in tempatkan talipon untok kegunaan the near future, he would bear this in ra'ayat, pada hal jalan antara bandar mind and see that water supply is Machang dengan bandar Pasir Puteh granted to this place as early as pos­ yang jauh-nya lebeh kurang 18 batu.

sible.

Furthermore.

Sir, it has become Saya rasa ini sa-bagai mithalan di-a fashionable thing for Ministers to kawasan saya, barangkali di-tempat evade responsibility .
They say that lain pun lagi banyak tempat2 yang certain matters are the responsibility of menasabah yang ra'ayat lebeh ramai the States, but when such matters are dan perhubongan yang payah yang referred to the State Governments they memerlukan ada-nya tempat itu.

peti talipon di-always shift their responsibility to the Federal Government.

Wherever the responsibility may lie, I would say that Enche' v. David (Bungsar): Mr. it is the concern of the P.W.D.

and the Speaker, Sir, Head 138-Water.


Sup-Minister concerned, for the P.W .D .

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centre, for about one mile, there is no 845 28 APRIL 1961 846 should take full responsibility for the water supply of the area mentioned just now.

of these houses are still of these houses, but I think Sir.

coming to Head 1 42-Govern­ ment Housing-I observe the item Sub­ head 10, Federal Labour Lines.

When I talk about Federal Labour Lines, houses offered to especially the P.W.D.
labourers, it is a shame for me to state the conditions of these houses; even the houses that are being built now are not of the standard size as they should be for workers to live in any modem society.

I do not know who are the designers the designers back to the 1 5th century.

The houses are designed in such a manner that they do not give an opportunity for the families to live, at least, with the minimum of comfort in these houses.
I would like of the Minister to see that houses are provided for people at least with the minimum of respectability, and not thinking that these people should not for the rights which others be entitled are entitled in this country.

The labour lines, especially are in the worst and they pose an ugly sight in the best part of Kuala Lumpur and in the other main towns of the country.
Speedy action types towards this is required and new of houses should be designed, so that the workers could enjoy a certain amount of privilege.

to draw the attention for the P.W.D.

workers, condition Sir, coming to Head 144-;-Telecom­ not interested are interested have public radio links would like to refer to located iri various parts of with other places.

What they mainly is to munications-I public telephones.
Sir, The ordinary people of this country, are as much as the Ministers to have multichannel Thailand and are interested telephones the town where they have no private telephones.

to Damansara Estate where for a public telephone for the last two years.
Well, the Minister cannot run away from the fact because this was done by myself personally the reply we have received from the Telecommunications they do not have extra telephones at the moment, and we will have to wait I Department is that has been made Sir, I would like to refer a request and that request for have been agitating the last two years.
This place has a population of and at nearly 500 people times of emergency, they will have to go to the Manager's bungalow and if the Manager feels that they should not use the telephone, they could not use it at that juncture; and there is no public telephone the Minister, vide multichannel Thailand and other places, will con­ centrate more in offering public tele­ phones to people who do not have private telephones, and to people who require them .

in times of need.

in this area.


So I hope that to pro­ before venturing radio links with Mas, if I am not mistaken.

without fulfilling that there is a plan Eoche' Chao Y ooo ODD (Kam.par): Mr. Speaker, Sir, part of a country's wealth is measured by its communi� cation system-I am speaking under Roads and Bridges-and it i s the usual but abnormal practice of the Government to promise the people a fair supply of roads and bridges and other requirements them.
I understand in Perak for the town of Grik to be linked or connected with the State of Kelantan by a road with the terminal at Pasir This plan has been going on for quite a number of years, but it has not been fulfilled.
I hope the Honourable Minister concerned of road connection so that it can be possible completed at the earliest I am making this appeal know that once this connection is through to the State of Kelantan, revenue for the Government will be increased, as goods and supplies from other States in the West Coast to the East Coast will be improved-this will be the case as the goods and supplies will go by the improved communi­ instead of going a long cation system way either through the Gap or the Kuantan area.
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will see to this plan Mr. Speaker, Sir, when I travelled I saw in my own evening, by train this constituency of Kampar that the main trunk road on the southern side of Kampar Town as flooded, and there was a stream of cars on both sides of the road.
I am surprised to see that especially main trunk road should be blocked in during the rainy days the 847 28 APRIL 1961 848 this manner, and I hope the Honourable Minister will see that the road is raised so that in future the main trunk road will not be blocked again.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think that the of Kampar is one of the in Malaya in respect it has given revenue constituency richest territories of tin mining, and to the Government more than any as I feel that other States.
Therefore, far as road is concerned the Ministry should provide more road communi­ the kampongs, so that in cations to will be future the mining interests When reached along these lines.

communication is amply provided, the resources of any place will · be improved.

Sir, coming to Telecommunications in the mining industry.
I regarding new automatic exchanges, I would appeal to the Honourable the Minister of Works, Posts and Tele­ communications that since Kampar is a mining town to see to it that Kampar will have an automatic exchange, because a lot of people over there have interests make this appeal because I am of opinion that the present telecommu· nication system should be improved, particularly are plenty season and that the handicapped telecommunication and that the tele­ phone exchange at the present time is not very good.
That is all I have to say.

having in view that there of floods during the rainy through lack of quicker mines will be Eoche' Hamzah bin AJang: Tuan Lima Tahun perbelanjaan badan kechil, chakap lebeh, kita hendak membuat sa-suatu kerja mesti-lah ada anggaran dan saembang dengan orang yang membuat kerja itu dari sa-tahun ka­ satahun.

Kita jangan jadi macham "kanchil" hendak buat kerja tidak boleh.

Kera­ jaan Perikatan tidak mahu buat demikian, ia saembangkan apa yang ia chakap dengan apa yang ia buat.
Erti-nya Ranchangan Kerajaan Perikatan itu ia-lah kita hendak buat segala apa yang di-lapor dan segala apa yang di-tugaskan oleh jawatan-kuasa daerah dan negeri yang di-sahkan oleh Parlimen ini.

Jikalau kita dapati sa-suatu kerja itu mena­ sabah, mithal-nya, jalan raya dari Tanjong Karang ka-Sabak Bemam.

Saya rasa jalan itu telah lama di­ binchangkan.

Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Damansara tadi mengatakan jalan dari Tanjong Karang ka-Sabak Bernam itu harus di-buat.
Yang sa-benar-nya, ia tidak tahu apa yang telah di-buat oleh Jawatan-Kuasa Kemajuan Daerah Kuala Selangor.

Sa-bagai ahli jawatan­ kuasa kemajuan luar bandar saya telah meminta dan telah mendapat peruntokan pada tahun ini $500,000 ong bagi membuat jalan dari Tanj Burong; walau pun Karang ka-Sungai peruntokan ini di-beri kita tidak buat sa-kali gus jalan yang sa-jauh 38 batu itu.
Kita tahu jalan Sabak Bernam itu baik dan boleh di-lalui walau pun habok banyak, tetapi foun­ dation jalan itu kita mesti fikirkan, berapa tahun dan berapa lipat kali ganda lagi batu patut di·taroh kerana di-bawah tanah itu lembut dan dekat dengan tepi laut.

Orang Tanjong Karang hendak lekas itu memang patut di-buat lekas, buat dengan segera.
tetapi kita tidak boleh boleh • jalan raya saya hendak ber­ sa-bagaimana Yang di-Pertua, chakap berhubong dengan dan paip ayer _ yang hendak di-buat yang di­ di-luar bandar sebutkan dalam Kepala 137 dan 138.

Pada pendapat saya pehak pembang­ kang dalam Dewan ini memikirkan bahawa Kerajaan pada tahun dan paip ayer di-luar bandar hendak siap.
Kita hendak-lah memikirkan bahawa negeri kita ini baharu mer­ deka, kita membuat kebaikan di· kampong itn dari sa-tah.un ka-satahun, kita tidak dapat buat macham kilat, hari ini chakap, besok siap.

Kalau Sa.ya menguchapkan terima kaseh kapada Kementerian ini kerana hendak membuat satu jalan di-Bukit Kapar.

yang mana jalan itu akan di-buat pada bulan May ini.
Tetapi, saya · suka mengingatkan Kementerian ini, saya mendapat khabar bahawa jalan dari Tanjong Karang ka-Sabak Bernam itu hendak di-buat sa-jauh 3 batu belanja­ nya $250.000 dan jalan ka-Sungai ' Burong sa-jauh 1 batu $250,000.

Saya perkara fikir.

Tuan 1961 ini semua jalan raya Yang di·Pertua, Perikatan ini mesen, 849 28 APRIL 1 96 1 850 saya katakan yang datang ini tidak betul.
Sebab-nya ti�k bet� ia-lah orang <Ian Sunga1 Burong hendak ambil batu lalu Tanjong Karang, ia tidak dapat batu dari Sabak Bemam bawa ka­ Sungai Burong, ia mesti lalu dengan motobot atau sampan baharu ia boleh bawa batu.

Jadi kalau hendak buat jalan dari Sungai Burong ka-Sabak $250,000 dan jalan Bemam belanja-nya Tanjong Karang yang sa-jauh 3 batu itu $250,000.
Saya rasa perkara ini di­ membazir, orang yang buat jalan Sungai Burong itu lalu di-jalan itu kerana di-situ tidak ada dua jalan, ia terpaksa lalu dari Sabak Bemam mem­ bawa batu dan sa-bagai-nya.

ini harus di-timbangkan terian yang berkenaan supaya jalan yang tengah di-buat itu di-situ juga ia hendak baharu.

Saya menasabah kerana jalan itu kita buat berperingkat dari sa-belah Burong itu tidak boleh habis.
lalu, bila lekok hendak buat sana sampai ka-Sungai fikir perkara ini tidak dan belanja-nya oleh Kemen­ $250,000 Perkara Berchakap tentang Damansara Water Supply itu yang sa-benar-nya jangan­ lah Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Daman­ sara suka berchakap Water Supply di­ kawasan-nya.

Ini sa-benar-nya water supply sudah Kelang.


Untok menyenang­ kami timbangkan dalam jawatan-kuasa di-daerah kan semua pendudok2 dari Pulau Lumut sampai ka-Pulau Lurut kerana meminta paip ayer itu saya katakan belum boleh lagi kerana pressure itu tidak kuat.

Oleh kerana tidak kuat ini menyebabkan ayer itu kalau di­ buka meleleh sebab-nya Ker ajaan hendak membuat water supply itu lebeh besar lagi supaya boleh berjalan dengan kuat dari Bukit Kerayong ka-Miru, Pulau Lumut, Pulau Ketam.
Jadi kalau sudah siap bukan-lah project itu daripada wakil Damansara tetapi itu ada-lah project Kerajaan Perikatan.

(Ketawa).

Sa.ya tidak mahu lembu punya susu sapi dapat nama.

(Ketawa).

sahaja.

Jadi itu-lah Enche' Lim Joo Kong: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Japanese bombed Pearl Har­ bour on the 8th Four days later, the British Ann y, with the defence of our entrusted of December, 1 94 1 .
blew up the Alor Star m?therland, bndge (Laughter), and it is almost twenty years since A1or Star is still wearing this ugly war-scar.

it has therefore been kept Sir, all through these twenty long years, I have formed a sorrow impres­ sion in my mind.
Whether my judgment is correct or not, I am still quite doubtful and my presumption is this : if the bridge had been blown then we would up by the Japanese, have had it repaired or rebuilt long long ago to wipe out our shame and disgrace, but as it was the master­ piece of our British Anny's scorched earth tactics, back as a war monument to comme­ morate the heroic deeds of our army.
If my judgment is not correct, then I should say that the Federation Govern· ment must have shown great discrimi· nation against the people of Alor Star by having our bridge the first one to be blasted and the last to be repaired.

(Laughter).

the Honourable me in this respect, but of the answers he will give me is that there is already a new bridge.

But, Sir, the population at that time was only about 20,000.

Now it has increased 70,000, that is to say, about the then population.
Star is on the Thailand-Federation international the traffic between these two countries and the present bridge is always con­ gested.

Therefore, I feel that the Federation Government should try and give every effort to have either this bridge repaired congestion� Moreover, Alor main I shall be very grateful highway.

So it serves also three times more than to more than of A1or Star can enlighten I am sure one or rebuilt the to relieve Minister if Enche' Tan Tye Chek (Kulim­ Bandar Bham): Mr. Speaker, Sir.
I wish to refer to Head 136, sub-head 32, Rural Mobile Post Offices and Garages.

A large sum has been provided under this item, and Minister of Works to make available a van for Bandar Bharu District for by the the purpose of posting letters people there.

In this district.
In this district.

there is a strange situation, in that Pekan Selama is on the border between Kedah and Perak; and so is also the case in I would beseech our 8 5 1 28 APRiL 1 96 1 852 haye to Selama, Kedah, and in Selama, shows very little between the two post Mahang.

These are two towns on both sides of the State boundary, and the postmen from Serdang deliver letters Perak the postmen deliver letters to Mahang, Perak.
It co-operation offices because postmen will have to cycle some ten to twelve miles to whereas they are just letters delivered, on opposite sides of the border.

There are several other villages like Sungai Takar, Sungai Batu and other places where the postmen go there once a week and in other places twice a week.

That is very inconvenient have got our boys in the area who have gone to the Congo as well as to lots of others gone on Haji Pilgrimage who always send money to Mecca.
If we have a mobile post office around the and will area it will be very convenient be of great benefit to the rural kampong folks.

when we treat this matter with and, if possible, great urgency so that the two bridges will be repaired without further delay.

also.

and the road repaired Under Head 1 38, sub-head 50, Kulim my friend and colleague now given a very graphic des­ I had believed and constantly Water Supply, has just cription of the condition of the water supplied in the town.

Mr. Speaker, Sir.
Mr. Speaker, Sir.

all along pointed out that Kulim Water Supply was one of the worst in the country, but from what the Honourable Member from Damansara said about the terrifying results obtained from drinking the water from the Daman­ sara Water Supply, I was thinking that the people of Kulim were not so unfortunate after all.
From what he described as the results of drinking the water from the Damansara Water Supply it surely gives me the impression ber must have been drinking and bathing in that Damansara water most of the time (Laughter).

that the Honourable Mem­ the Minister that I wish to refer to Head 137, sub­ head 7, Road System Survey.

I should like to congratulate at long last we are proposing to have this done, because in other countries as soon as one goes there, one can usually buy Government prepared road maps.
Whereas in our own country, Sir, all these road maps, I observe, are prepared by the two big oil supplying companies such as Shell and Socony.

If you go to filling stations, the Govern­ ment does not supply any road maps and all that, but only by the oil companies.
those supplied Mr. Speaker, Sir, I hope that this survey will be completed soon, because from this book I observe that there is an item of Photographic Survey; and I also hope that with this photographic survey instrument we might be able to complete the road survey quickly and efficiently.
Encbe' Zulkiflee bin Muhammad: Dalam Kepala tugas -nya Sa-belum saya menye­ saya suka Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dalam kemajuan negeri dalam pembangunan, Kemen­ yang menjalankan terian ini-lah yang besar kerana kebanyakkan pembangunan yang besar ada-lah di­ amanahkan kapada-nya.

1 37 ada beberapa kerja yang besar2 akan di-jalankan.
butkan satu2 perkara itu, meminta supaya Kementerian ini me­ merhatikan chara ekonomi dan jimat chermat dalam belanja-nya dengan chara mengikut kaedah yang di-luluskan oleh Dewan ini.

Dalam perkara tender apa yang telah di-bahathkan bangkitkan oleh sa-orang Ahli Yang Berhormat dalam Dewan ini patut-lah menjadi satu perhitongan menterian yang bersangkutan dalam hal ini ia-itu perkara memberi contract kapada orang2 yang di-ragu2kan.
kapada Ke­ dan di­ of Minister Under sub-head 9, Grants for State and Rural Roads, I should like to bring to the attention that in my constituency Selama to Mahang passing through villages of Sungei Taka and Sungei Batu are very bad and two of the bridges are at breaking point.

I should like the Minister to take notice of this the roads from the Kepala Kechi!

9 ada menyebutkan Grants to State and Rural Roads.
Sa-orang Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Kapar telah mengatakan bahawa me­ nerusi Jawatan-Kuasa Luar Bandar ini yang dia telah men­ dapat $500,000 bagi membuat jalan Pembangunan 853 28 APRIL 1961 854 ra'ayat perchaya sa-bagai ada bebe­ terputus dan sa­ di-tempat di-adakan ini, saya tanya dengan Men­ kepentingan berlaku sa-suatu yang terpenchil diri mereka dengan tanda yang bertanggong hal maka hendak me· tetapi di-ka­ jalan pun ta' Perkara yang akhir yang saya hendak jalan dari..,_ Wakaf Setam.
akan di· dalam Lima Tahun tempat melalui' sungei talipon ta' dapat itu maka dengan sebab itu kejar dengan motor-car, wasan saya umpama-nya ada di-satengah2 sakira-nya di-tempat2 perhubongan kira-nya amat-lah menyusahkan nyambongkan masharakat itu.

Sabak Bemam, dan setahu saya tentu· lab jalan itu di-buat tidak semata2 kerana hendak mengisikan apa yang di­ katakan membuat jalan kapada ran­ changan FLDA.
Nyata-lah bahawa jalan ini di-buat kerana orang2 di-Sabak Bernam yang berhajat­ kan satu jalan dalam negeri itu.

Dalam kawasan saya ada sa-batang pada Bachok melalui Hal ini sudah saya teri Yang Berhormat dan menurut keterangan-nya perkara ini timbang untok di-masokkan Ranchangan Pembangunan Yang Kedua.
Tidak-lah saya ketahui atau sama ada sudah di-masokkan tidak, tetapi apa yang saya ketahui dengan sah-nya bahawa jalan ini telah di-masokkan oleh Jawatan-Kuasa Pem­ bangunan Luar Bandar dengan men­ dapat keutamaan, maka saya berharap apabila hendak menimbangkan soal Grants to State and Rural Roads yang memakan belanja $15,000,000 ini, Ke· menterian Kerja Raya yang akan ber­ tanggong dapat memikirkan benar-nya daripada jalan yang di-buat Bachok ka-Wakaf Setam ini ada-lah satu jalan yang sa-benar-nya oleh ra'ayat di-tepi mereka yang hidup dengan chara nelayan.
Dengan ini dapat-lah hidupan dan pendapatan mereka dengan yang demikian saperti itu hidup sechara yang di-ke­ hendaki benar2 oleh pendudok negeri ini.

Saya berharap timbangkan sangkutan.

sebutkan rapa orang yang ta' suka mendengar, dan saya sengaja hendak menyebutkan di-sini jawab ia-itu Head 1 39, sub-head 39- Renovations Negara.
Hal ini tidak popular bagi sa­ saorang itu membuat remark nya, tetapi saya suka hendak mendapat jawapan dari Menteri yang bersang­ kutan ia-itu apa-kah yang hendak di­ buat lagi dalam Istana Negara yang memakan belanja dekat $ 1 million Teringat saya dahulu kita telah membelanjakan membuat dapor, hall dan sa-bagai-nya, tetapi ini yang berkehendak­ kan $938,000 lagi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kita suka tentu-lah Baginda Yang di-Pertuan dapat keluasan, ini tahu apa yang sa-benar-nya hendak di-buat lanja yang sa-bagitu ke­ dan orang2 dapat-lah supaya hal ini di­ oleh Menteri yang ber­ ia-itu dahulu pun wang bagi Agong men­ tetapi biar-Iah berkenaan banyak.
jawab dalam hal ini dan akan ada-nya jalan saperti and Extensions pantai.

terutama supaya Seri Paduka Dewan yang sa-kira-nya mereka ini di-gunakan soal ini.

Yang sa­ meluaskan berkenaan to Istana umpama­ dengan be­ itu.

Kedua, Tuan Yang di-Pertua , oleh untok Ranchangan Pem­ ada-lah soal · talipon kerana kebanyakan kerja yang di-jalan­ kan oleh Kementerian ini dengan tugas bangunan Luar Bandar, maka saya yang jauh dari­ berharap pada tepi2 jalan supaya di-timbang dan di-utamakan.
beberapa di-beberapa nya di-adakan ta' ada.

Yang dt· Pertua, ada sa kalau ta' ada talipon, jalan-nya maka dengan sendiri-nya talipon, tetapi kadang2, -suatu tempat itu elok, orang2 boleh .

orang Ahli2 Yang Berhormat Memang benar kehendak kawasan tentang yang Tuan di-tempat2 mustahak­ talipon Rural Mo­ Enche' Mohamed Yusof bin Mah­ mud: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya hendak berchakap dengan Kepala 1 36, Kepala Kechil 32-Rural Mobile Post Offices and Garages.
Bagi daerah saya perkhidmatan bile Post Office ini, rasa saya sangat kurang, sunggoh pun ada pada masa ini perkhidmatan tersebut di-Temerloh, Telok Sentang, tetapi orang2 yang sungai itu di-ulu dari­ dudok di-tepi pada itu sampai ka-Kampong Mai ini lebeh kurang 22 batu daripada sangat, Temerloh dan dapat kira-nya mereka berkhid­ mat di-Rural tidak hari2, tetapi kalau dapat kali sa-minggu pun rnereka sangat berpuas hati.
Saya kapada pejabat telah bertanya ini maka saya dapati Mobile Post Office ini­ dua yang berkehendakkan 855 28 APRIL 1 96 1 856 oleh sebab, pertama kata-nya ke· kurangan wang, kerana hendak mem· kapada postman yang beri allowance akan pergi ka·tempat itu.

Yang kedua berkenaan dengan kekuatan motor yang berjalan itu saya harap juga dapat perkhidmatan pos ini sambil menghantar juga boleh · mengadakan perkhidmatan menyimpan wang supaya dapat juga orang2 kampong itu ta' payah pergi lain.
ka· Temerloh atau pun ka-tempat2 kurang sangal Maka suratz dan Satu chara, rasa saya perkhidmatan ini dapat di-baiki lagi ia-itu meng· gunakan motor2 baharu saperti motor yang menggunakan jet, oleh sebab sungai Pahang ada masa-nya motor itu ta' boleh lalu oleh kerana ayer-nya terlampau kering.

Saya tahu juga boat yang di-gunakan sekarang ini ada masa-.nya ta' boleh di-gunakan ber­ jalan jauh, oleh sebab kekeringan ayer di-Sungai Pahang.
Saya per· chaya dengan menggunakan alat modern i.ni motorz boat yang meng.:.

4 inchi ayer sahaja gunakan jet dengan motor boat itu boleh berjalan dan perkhidmatan kapada orang2 yang di-tepi itu di-antara Mai.

sungai ia· Temerloh dengan Kuala itu dapat di-sampaikan oleh -lah Saya melihat sel':i.diri bekerja di-situ.
ia-itu Jabata.n Kerja Raya mengadakan mesen yang besar untok memechah batu itu bukan-lah dengan tangan, dan tempat2 yang tidak boleh di-gunakan dengan tangan di -adakan bulldozer oleh Kerajaan.

Jadi kita tidak faham bagaimana kedudokan yang sa-benar· nya yang telah di-perhatikan Ahli Yang Berhormat itu.
Sa ya dapati pekerja di-situ saperti biasa, tidak sa-bagaimana yang di-katakan me­ mechah batu yang bertan2 berat-nya itu dengan menggunakan Dan ia mengatakan jalan di-situ bengkang-bengkok Bentong ka-Kuala Lumpur.

Saya suka memberi tahu Ahli Yang Berhormat itu walau pun jalan itu bengkang­ bengkok tetapi kita belum mendengar lagi kejadian yang dahshat saperti ada kereta yang jatoh ka-bawah bukit dan sa-bagai-nya.
Ia membawa perkara ini, barangkali berhubong dengan satu kejadian yang baharu2 ini sa-orang ahli Socialist di-batu 20.

Front "head on collision" ia-itu jalan dari pickaxe.

berchakap Sekarang saya hendak tentang Reconditioning of Federal Offices!

and other Buildings saperti yang di-sebutkan dalam sub-head 4.
Saya hendak menarek perhatian Kementerian i.ni tentang rumah bagi pekerja bergaji rendah saperti Hospital Labour Line di-daerah mana Bentong dan Mentakab� yang patut sangat mendapat perhatian yang ' berat daripada Kementerian supaya rumah itu sa-suai dengan keadaan pada masa i.ni.

Rumah itu sudah lama sangat, saya tahu kerana saya bekerja di-situ sa-lama 24 tahun, maka kedudokan-nya maseh bagitu juga.
kebaikan yang di­ Sa-perkara lagi, Tuan Yang di­ Pertua, saya hendak berchakap ber­ kenaan dengan Kepala 1 37 ia-itu Roads and Bridges.

Sa·bagai wakil negeri Pahang saya menguchapkan terima kaseh di-atas segala buat oleh Kementerian ia-itu mengada· kan jalan raya dari Kuala Lumpur sampai Bentong dan Kuantan.

Dalam hal ini saya lebeh tahu daripada Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Damansara apabila ia mengatakan kalau kerja itu hendak chepat hendak-lah meng· gunakan perkakas yang moden .

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Saya berasa hairan dalam perkara ini kerana dengan jalan itu orangz itu akan menganggor sa-mula.

Pendi· rian-nya itu saya tidak faham.

Kita hendak memberi kerja kapada orang yang menganggor, Ahli Yang Berhormat itu menggalak­ kan supaya penganggoran dalam negeri i.ni.
Ia juga mengatakan kit.a tidal:: mengguna.kan perka.kas yang moden · untok memechah batu, barang­ yang kali ia tidak pernah melihat orang tetapi sa-balek-nya banyak yang bekerja Pada akhir-nya, Tuan Yang di· Pertua, saya menguchapkan terima mem­ kaseh di-atas segala ranchangan buat jalan yang sedang di-jalankan dengan giat-nya di-daerah saya, terutama sa-kali daripada Kuala Krau, saya rasa perkhidmata.n ini akan memberi faedah yang besar kapada orang ramai yang belwn menekmati jalan raya.
Puan Hajjah Zain binti SuJaiman: saya hendak ber­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, chakap berkenaan dengan Roads and 857 28 APRIL 1961 858 yang di-sebutk:an Bridges sa-bagaimana dalain Head 1 37.

Dalam bulan Decem­ ber dahulu saya telah merayu tentang jambatan di-Pontian Kechil.

tetapi saya menchari dalam Head ini dan juga dalam uchapan Yang Berhormat Menteri tidak ada di-sebutkan hal itu.
Apa yang hendak saya jawabkan apabila saya pergi ka-Pontian dan apabila di-kerumuni oleh orang2 di­ bandar itu akan bertanya: lbu, jambatan bila hendak di-buat?

Saya harap mendapat jawapan yang betul2 tegas sama ada hendak di-buat dalam tahun 196 1 , 1962, 1 963 atau 1 964.

Sa-lain daripada itu, Tuan Yang di­ Pertua, saya menguchapkan banyak terima kaseh kapada Yang Berhormat Menteri kerana mengadakan pejabat pos di-Kukup dan di-Pekan Nanas.
Pendudok di-kawasan itu tentu-lah sukachita apabila mendapat pejabat pos itu.

Dan juga Pejabat Pos, Johor Bharu, itu sudah burok benar dan tidak senonoh-menakutk:an sahaja, kalau pejabat pos itu di-baiki saya menguchapkan terima kaseh.

Tetapi Yan� B�rhormat Menteri tolong-lah apa 1ua kira-nya, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, memberi jawapan yang tegas pada malam iru tentang jambata.ni di-Pontian Kechil-besok saya hendak balek (Ketawa).
tersebut itu hingga hari Baling, tetapi dukachita di-sebutkan kereta yang ini belum lagi kelihatan, boleh jadi ada perkara2 yang meng­ .

gendalakan yang yang tersebut di-hantar ka-Baling.

tidak dapat kereta barangkali Waiau bagaimana pun saya ber­ harap mendapat ikhtiar dengan sa­ berapa chepat supaya di-hantar di­ sana.
Dan lagi satu perkara saya mendapat rayuan daripada orang2 di­ sana ia-itu berkenaan dengan Talipon Automatic di-Pekan Baling, jadi saya faham di-Baling itu, pehak Kemen­ terian ini telah bersetuju hendak mengadakan pejabat atau rumah yang baharu bagi talipon itu dan saya harap dapat di-adakan dengan sa-berapa segera yang boleh.

Tuan Yang di-Pertua, pada akhir­ nya saya suka-lah berchakap ber­ kenaan dengan Talipon Orang Ramai atau lebeh terkenal dengan nama talipon Merdeka.
Saya suka menarek perhatian Kementerian ini ia-itu memohon supaya di-adakan talipon2 orang ramai di-Pekan Tawar.

Kuala Pegang, Kampong Lalang.

di-kawasan itu ia-lah · mempunyai pendudok2 yang ramai juga yang ada kepentingan-nya dan kawasan itu ada-lah berhampiran dengan Estate, lah mustahak kalau di-adakan talipon.

menggunakan talipon jadi saya rasa memang­ Sa-benar-nya Sa-kali lagi saya berharap supaya dapat di-adakan Talipon Orang Ramai itu dengan sa-berapa segera yang boleh.
Sitting suspended at 10.45 p.m. Enche' Baron bin Abdullah: Tuan Yang di-Pertua.

dalam meshuarat yang lalu saya telah menyuarakan dalam Majlis ini meminta kapada Yang Berhormat Menteri Kerja Raya Pos da� Talikom sa-orang pegawai pos di­ Pe1abat Pos.

Baling.

Pada hari ini Kementerian telah menghantar pega­ wai yang tersebut itu.

Pendudok di- Baling yang menggunakan Pejabat Pos di-situ menguchapkan banyak terima kaseh kapada Kementerian ini yang telah menyenangkan mereka dari­ pada masa yang lalu.
Sitting resumed at 10.55 p.m. (Mr. Speaker in the Chair) EXEMPTED BUSINESS (Motion) (Mr. Speaker in the Chair) Sa-perkara lagi yang saya suka bang­ kitk:an dalam Majlis ini ia-lah dalam beberapa bulan yang lalu saya telah mendapat pengakuan daripada Yang Berhormat Menteri Kerja Raya me­ ngatakan bahawa awal tahun 1 961 ini sa-buah kereta pos bergerak akan di­ hantar untok di-gunak.an di-kawasan kampong yang berhampiran dengan -�-..

The Prime Minister: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move.
That the proceedings Committee the House on the Development Estimates, 1961, be exempted from the provisions of Standing Order 12 (1) until 1 1 .30 p.m. tonight.

in the of 859 28 APRIL 196 1 860 The Minister of Internal Security (Dato' Dr. Ismail): Sir, I beg to second the motion.

as a Government with sociai ness, as a humanist Government, we fell that we ought to give them this work (Applause).

conscious­ Question put, and agreed to.


Resolved, That the proceedings in the Committee of the House on the Development Estimates, 1961, be exempted from the provisions Standing Order 12 (1) until 1 1.30 p.m. tonight.. of THE DEVELOPMENT ESTIMATES, 1961 House immediately resolved itself into Committee.

(Mr. Speaker in the Chair) .

Debate resumed on Question : That the sums of $ 1 1 6,571,976 under Column 5 and $13,900,000 under Column 6 for Heads 1 36 to 140, 142 and 144 stand part of the.
Development Estimates, 196 1 .

Question again proposed.

Sir, water He also made certain remarks with regard to the water supply in Kuala Selangor and Selangor generally.

In fact, he wanted water to be given to all the people in Selangor.

has always been a State subject.

We come in where it is a question of loans, co-ordination between the States, and planning for the water supply.
He would, of course, have heard me say that at the end of this period we hope to provide water for more people considerable supply, a very high percentage in fact, and this will be increased by a further two million, all the other States too.

in the country.

Already a number use piped water not only in Selangor but almost two million we ought to and such like.
I am afraid Dato' V. T. Sambanthan: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I must confess that I have been surprised to some extent, but not unduly, by what the Honour­ able Member for Damansara said when he suggested that hurry up with the work at Genting Simpah by giving the workers there, bulldozers that he has not understood the basis of the work that is proceeding at Genting Simpah.
There were a number of unemployed youths and the Govern­ ment felt in all honestness that we ought to give them some work and the Genting Simpah project was Any Government, any humanist Government, which has some social consciousness, would do that.

But find that the Honourable Member for Damansara is unable to understand it.

However, I am afraid we will have to continue with the work at Genting Simpah.

We are quite with the progress of the work.

satisfied� In fact, the P.W.D.

wanted to do it.


They could do it much faster with their bulldozers, but we feel that bulldozers the answer all the time and that human beings must live, must continue to Jive, and will con­ tinue to live, and that, as I have said, are not begun.

I He proceeded then to mention the of road a few years ago, he Tanjong Karang-Sabak Bemam Road-that it was dusty and that it was in fact not at all a road.
If the Honourable Member had tried to go along that would have found the non-existence a road.

This road: has• been constructed recently and the work is still continu­ ing.

Our intention is to continue with · the work of the road right up to Utan Melintang so that there will be connection right u p to Telok Anson and the work is proceeding apace.

I would have expected the Honourable Member to throw a bouquet at the P.W.D.
and the Government for having undertaken the construction good road and for having proceeded with such speed, but then I suppose it is impossible to expect bouquets from Members of the Opposition, except from certain Members of the Ruling Party who today were offer the Government very nice and good bouquets.

kind enough to of this very The Honourable Member for Raub mentioned the need for accommodation for Federal look into be done for his area.

this and will see what can Government servants.


I will The Member for Kulim Utara mentioned the water suppl)' for Kulim, as did the Member for Kulim-Bandar 861 28 APRIL 1 96 1 862 to state here that I told them that it was very would wish thing for them to do was to Bharu.

I I am one of those who felt very keenly the need for good water for Kulim, because I had the fortune, or whatever you call it, of having been at Kulim and having had the .to have opportunity tasted the water at Kulim.
My com­ mentary on it was that much like ditch water.

the right approach their own State Government and that at the same time would also try to speed up the provi­ sion of water supply for Kulim.

But unfortunately the whole thing has hit a snag now.

in that, Penang and Kedah Once are yet to sign an Agreement.
they have signed it, then the Federal Government will push through with all speed to provide them with and a half million Federal Ministry of Works will also hurry up with providing plans, so that Kulim can have a good water supply within the next two years-that fast as possible.

the one and the odd dollars we over here is as a he talks a lot-he of the Selangor for two years, I think, and Jaya there was need for Member is State Council.
Councillor he should have been in a better position to have told us as to how many stand pipes there were in Kuala Lumpur .

But, having asked that (Laughter) question, said at once and he proceeded that at 4!

mile stone, Kuala Lumpur/ Petaling stand pipe.

The Honourable a member He has also been on the Municipality and it appears that despite all his vocife1ation-and has not been able to get one single stand pipe at 4t mile stone, Kuala Lumpur.

I am really sorry of the .


Honourable inability to provide anything there (Laughter) that the houses for were very badly designed.

grateful positive designs be improved.

him that I will certainly provided, ling to the expenditure like to have at our different division houses.

says that he has been trying to have a phone for the estate for Damansara been writing letters.
about it, and I do not know if he even wrote letters to him if he can give us some suggestions as to where are bad and how they ought to Member for the people over to say two years and has He never told If he does that, I assure .

He proceeded the P.W.D.

workers pay attention, (Laughter).


Then again he that there is a cei­ that we would of course, to note the I would be these me The Honourable Member for Pasir bear in mind his that we are already these are not the western part of Puteh mentioned that he needs a Post Office at Pasir Puteh.

He would have observed building a lot of Post Offices and only kept within the country but that even the East Coast has had its own supply of Post Offices.
As we go on building them, I will certainly request for a Post Office at Pasir Puteh.

A� for his request for telephone boxes, I wish to tell him that we are generally guided by the Red Book boxes or about these telephone Merdeka boxes.

But I would like to tell him that we have not had any entry at all in the Red Book from the East Coast States Trengganu.

Since anything not possible for me to provide anything because no request has been made.
do not know how it happened, but that is what at all in the Red Book, it is they have not entered it is.

I The Honourable Member for Bung­ things, amongst them, sar said many of course, he asked me how many stand pipes there were in Kuala Lumpur, a question at which I am surprised because he was a Municipal for Kampar.
Even before his has been The Member for Kampar mentioned that he would like to have an automatic exchange mentioning going ahead exchanges automatic Kampar will have an automatic ex­ change in 1962. with trying to provide wherever Department it, the possible.

to keep the Bailey bridge at They would like and also as I am afraid that the eagerness to "preserve" Alor Star is really a matter for the State Government.
it as a momento possibly, through which pedestrians something and cyclists traffic could the Federal Government, the Honourable known, provided approaches now building the southern to that bridge.

move.

As for we have, as· Member would have a bridge and we are of Kelantan and As regards the bridge at Alor Star, .. , 863 28 APRIL 1 96 1 864 and I shall try to assure that a Post Offices will soon The Honourable Member for Kulim­ Bandar Bharu wanted a Mobile Post Office, and so did the Member · for Baling.
I would wish number of Mobile be under preparation to provide one wherever possible.

There will be one as far as I know based at Kuala Ketil, and if it can cover both areas, no one will be happier than myself.

· At the opening of the Mobile Post Office too I hope they will be present and I shall certainly either of the Honourable Members, or both of them.

to speak, and I hope their constituents will be as happy as the House in this.
ask Sir, I beg to move that Heads 145 to $8,365,944 under column 149, totalling 5 and $ 1 6,61 1 ,000 under column 6 be approved.

Head 145-Malayan Roilway- A total amount of $ 1,899,000 is sought under this Head, and Honour· able Members will note that the figures appear in column (6) rather than column (5), indicating Loan funds on which the Malayan Railway will pay interest to the Government.

The funds sought are all in respect of continuation that these are works.
The amount entered under Sub-head Railway to close 8 is to enable the certain signal ling techniques will allow provide considerable Railway annually.

cabins.

Improved signal­ this and savings to the Regarding Sub-head 1 1 , under an acquired equipment to build earlier stage of the First Five-Year Development Plan, the Railway Admi­ nistration two additional air-conditioned coaches.

During the financial stringency of 1958, funds had to be withdrawn, preventing coaches.
The enable equipment lying idle to be put to use to earn revenue.

the completion of these funds now sought will sleeping Sub-head 19, General Commercial Development, provides funds for the construction of sidings serving com­ mercial areas, and new layouts, lated to bring rail reach of the users.

calcu­ facilities within easy The Honourable Member for Bachok mentioned the Waka/ Setan road.

I replied even earlier that this was a State road-I remember very well that I replied that it is a State road.
It is does not a Federal road and therefore not come under As regards the improvements to the lstana, the improvements new floor above the present because there all in the Istana, in addition improvements, so that it will keep up to the status of the country.

is no accommodation at include the building of a to essential me at all.

flooring, The Honourable Member for Temerloh wanted improvements to be made to the hospital labour lines and others.

I will certainly look into that.


As to the request for an automatic telephone it.

on the way to providing exchange at Baling, we are As to the request by the Honourable Member for Pontian Selatan-'-she said she wanted a jawapan tegas about the Jamb11tan Pontian Kechil-fasal batan Pontian Kechil itu saya suka beri jawapan yang tegas boleh-lah jambutan itu 1 962.

(Laughter).
(Laughter).

Jam­ di-buat di-dalam tahun Administration to Sub-head 20, Permanent Way Im· provements (1960 Programme), will enable the Railway draw on loan funds to meet expendi­ ture authorised but so far met from its own resources.

It will be appreciated that the Administration, as a matter of financial prudence, does not draw on loan funds earlier than strictly neces­ sary, since interest must be paid.

Question put, and agreed to.


The sums of $ 130,471 ,976 for Heads 1 36 to 1 40, 142 and 144 agreed to stand part of the Development Esti­ mate:;, 196 1 .

HeafAs 145-149- The Minister of Transport Sardon bin Haji Jubir): Mr. Chairman, (Enche' In order to obtain the best possible use of its goods wagons the Railway must provide · modern vacuum-brake equipment for them.
$300,000 of the under Sub-head 22 will amount sought ----·--·---·-- --- --------- 865 28 APRIL 1 961 866 meet the cost of work already com­ pleted, and a further $ 114.000 will allow the project to continue.

Sub-head 31 is intended to provide the cost of equipment enabling a cross­ ing station to be remotely controlled from the next manned course represents in wages and maintenance.

station.

This of considerable economy Commission to complete the develop· ment of Weld Quay.
The sum was indeed approved in the 1960 Develop­ ment Estimates but has remained un­ spent since completion of the project is bound up with the question of the and control of future administration the waterfront, which has been under negotiation with the State authorities.

The Penang Port Commission is all ready to go, and I trust the State Government will give its decisions, early so that the Commission can make a start on the work and complete it as soon as possible.
a complicated question The sum of $300,000 under Sub-head 36, Kuala Lumpur Sewerage Scheme, will finance completion to connect Railway premises with the Municipal sewerage system in Kuala Lumpur.

of the scheme Sub-head 37, again, provides for drawing on loan funds provided but not drawn in 1960. for the improvement, by automatic on the main line section between Kuala Lumpur and Tampin.
devices, of train signalling has and praise· and regular The RaiJway Administration's policy is to provide efficient and economical freight transportation passenger travel, and to afford the best possible service to the public.

It recently made significant worthy progress in overhauling the of deficits incurred during the recession 1957 and 1958.
Honourable Members will I think be aware that a Commis­ sion of three experts, generously provided by the Government of India is under Colombo Plan arrangements, now at work here, enquiring into the Railway's economic and financial posi­ tion and prospects : we have also asked them to advise on the Railway's investment the Five-Year Plan.
The Commission's expert advice on these matters will, I am confident, to the Government in its assessment and planning of the role which the Malayan Railway is to play in the future transport economy of the country.

programme as outlined in be of the greatest value due to mecha­ is pursuing a forward policy.

which is charged for co-ordinating The Commission.


with responsibility the port's activities and for future port · planning, After initial difficulties nical faults, the new ferry service which the Commission introduced last year has.

I believe, affected a significant improvement in communica­ tions between the Island and the mainland and, in fact, made life easier for all in the area.
The Commission is proceeding with planning its project for the construction water berths at Butterworth, included in first funds will be sought next year, Malayans are playing an increasing part in the management of the Com­ mission's of mainland deep­ which is the Development Plan : the affairs.
The $312,000 sought under Sub-head 2, Port Swettenham-Short Term Development, is to enable the Railway Administration to proceed with further measures to alleviate congestion Port Swettenham, pending the coming into operation of the North Klang Straits Wharv es.

The funds will be used to provide additional and lighterage facilities.

wharfage at The amount of $10 million entered under Sub-head 4-Port North Klang Straits Project.
represents the anticipated cost contractor during 1961. of payments to the Swettenham­ Head 146-Ports- A total of $14,712,000 is sought under this Head: again, these are loan funds.

The sum of $ 1 million entered under Sub-head 1 is to enable the Penang Port Under Sub-head 5, Further Extension am, of the Coastal Phase 1 .

$2 million is sought to meet the total cost of the new deepwater berth (Wharf No.

4) .
4) .

now under cons- Wharf, Port Swettenh 867 28 APRIL 1 96 1 868 tructicm at the Port, which we plan to have in operation early in December.

The sum of $500,000 sought under Sub-head 6, Tugs and Lighters, represents payments already made by the Railway on account of funds pro­ vided in 1959 but not yet been drawn.

Under Sub-head 8, Equipment.

$800,000 is provided towards the cost of a new powerful berthing tug, the planned purchase of which is put forward.
Though it has been much in the news it; imports, due in a confined port area never I need not enlarge upon lately, Honourable Members may wish me to say something about Port Swettenham.

The problem is familiar.

in short, vastly increased to the expansion of the country's economy, have created pressure and congestion designed to handle shipping and tonnages of the present order: last year a record of some 1 .6 million tons was handled, whereas the economic capacity of much above t million ton.
Rather would I say something about what we are doing about it.

in order to get through the intervening break out into the more open waters of the North Klang the port is probably not period until we Straits.
shore and floating equipment: the jetties Briefly, a crash programme is under way, with target dates, to increase cargo handling facilities-that is, lighters, the first stage is to be in operation by the end of next month, and more and more facilities (such as the new deep­ water wharf I have already mentioned) will come in as the year proceeds.

Secondly we are taking measures to lighten the port's load by diverting cargo to other ports.
The co-operation of shipping interest forthcoming : recently we have very valuable discussions representative Freight Conference, with long expe­ rience of port needs from the shipping angle.

The port labour leaders and the employers, with whom I have had several discussions.

have assured me of their full co-operation and support.
Therefore I appeal to the Port Swettenham Ioint Council to make of the Far Eastern has been readily with a senior every effort to reach very early agree­ to ment upon measures calculated improve the throughput of cargo by more productive working.

Much of my time for many months.

has been accupied with the problem, and I have paid many visits to the port, and also to the work in progress on the North Klang Straits project.
I think I may claim that energetic hensive action with the situation magnitude is afoot, and I will see that it is kept up.

and compre­ to deal : a drive of some has been taken Head 147-Civil A Yiation- A total of $6,882,000 is sought for Civil Aviation.

· Sub-head 21 provides funds for for small twin-engined building a landing ground in the Taman Negara, suitable aircraft, visitors very beautiful to this interesting to enable small parties of to obtain easy access to this part of the country.
Park and attract tourists Referring to Sub-head 23, it will be recalled that in May, 1960, the Beaver aircraft of.

the Federation Air Service were sold.

Malayan Airways Ltd. will operate in their place a service to Kuala Trengganu using Dakota air­ craft.

The use of the larger aircraft requires air traffic control and aero­ drome fire and rescue services to be me.

The sum of provided at the aerodro $107 ,000 is entered for buildings, staff the necessary quarters and equipment.
Some $300,000 is sought under Sub­ as well as the head 24 for the construction of a landing-ground for Pulau Langkawi.

At present, the island must rely on a or its connection launch service f with the mainland.

It is considered that from the administrative development viewpoint a landing ground for a small twin-engined to the island.
craft would be of benefit Langkawi could be brought into easy reach of the main centres of the mainland and it should be possible to attract visitors it as a holiday resort attraction.

to the island and develop and tourist air­ Referring to Sub·heads 23 and 24. the last two I have mentioned.

will 869 28 APRIL 1961 870 The Govern­ transport to see to it that for the main arteries of alone.

The jetty at are provided for the rural of our offshore islands.
ment intends facilities communities all over the country, and not merely for the larger population centres or communication Pangkor is already completed and I declared it open for public use on 5th November last; the jetty at Tioman i s also finished.

The cost o f the jetty at Langkawi is rather more than the others owing to site by the granite outcrops; rock-blasting and work on the foundations are now in progress.
difficulties caused Sub-head 1 1 provides a small sum the access road to Cape for completing Rachado Lighthouse, so house crew stationed there may be provisioned economically and the machinery serviced.

that the light­ Honourable Members kindly note that have resulted in more recent estimates the column (5) provisions now being $130,000 for Sub-head 23 Kuala Trengganu, and $275,500 for Sub­ head 24 Langkawi, not $ 107,000 and $298,500 as shown.
At Sub-head 26, $60,000 is entered on the Ipoh Terminal for expenditure Building.

The present pre-war building does not provide adequate facilities, and · it is to be extended and modernised.

$6,389,000 for the new International Kuala Lumpur.

is entered at Sub-head 25 Airport for Detailed surveys and investigations for some months, have been in progress and they have now enabled a decision to be taken regarding the site for the This is a big project, airport.
involving extensive design work and planning, and one on which expert advice is essential.

The Government will there­ fore pursue it as quickly as possible, consistently with careful preparation, before the actual construction work begins.

on for launches operated by the Under Sub-head 9, a sum of some $2 10,000 is entered for the constructi of a slipway at the Marine Depart­ is ment's base at Glugor.

The slipway designed to give efficient servicing facilities Marine and other Departments.
It will enable a regular slipping be arranged for these launches and the work on them to be properly super­ vised.

Economies will also result, since the services having to be sent further afield for slipping, as at present.

provided will save launches programme to Maintenance Sub-head 1 2 provides completion funds for the purchase of a grab dredger now under construction for the Department, approved in last year's Development Estimates.
dredging in the ports of the Federation is at present carried out by two grab dredgers, throughout the year at the port of Malacca; and this equipment is altogether to cover require­ ments all round the Federation's coastline.

which are principally inadequate engaged The mooring pontoon for Port Swettenham shown under Sub-head 1 3 $385,000 .is to replace as requiring the pontoon, which is now out of existing date, and not up to the job.

This piece of equipment is for of the mooring buoys used by ships.
the maintenance Head 148-Malayan Meteorological Service- A total of $61 , 787 here is entered i n respeet of three Sub-heads relating to minor works, and I do not think need occupy the House's time in speci­ fying them.

I Head 149-Marine- A total of $ 1,422,1 57 is entered under this Head.

The Marine Department's fleet of acquired from launches was mostly naval sources after the war.
These .launches were generally constructed of unseasoned wood and inferior materials and have now reached the to stage where they are uneconomical maintain.

The fleet is gradually being replaced and the sum now sought under Sub-head 4 is required to meet the balance of payment for the launches ordered in 1960, and to continue the replacement programme.

Sub-heads 5, 6 and 8 provide funds for some for the construction of jetties 871 28 APRIL 1 961 872 inspected, and cleanod.
Mooring buoys which have to be lifted, repaired are an essential apparatus and will effect costs.

will be of modem design savings in recurrent port service.

The new Sir.
The new Sir.

the account of my Ministry's Programme would be without passing reference Development incomplete being made to sub-heads 24 and 47 under Head 139-Ministry of Works, Posts and Telecommunications-where funds are provided for the building much needed new Marine Offices Port Swettenham hope also to persuade my Honourable of Works, Posts the Minister colleague, and Telecommunications.

funds at Office at Muar.

Fµrther, to add that Registrar Vehicles, is nearing completion.
the new office for the of Motor Penang, under sub-head 35, a later date for a new Marine and Batu Pahat.

I and Inspector I would like to allocate of at has cheap sleeping berths for Mr. Speaker, few months great public interest been shown in respect of the question of providing third class passengers.

although there have been some non­ committal answers from the Govern­ ment, I think that for the Government statement to accommodate the income group, when they travel at night on long journeys.
1 : : the time has come to make a definite as to whether it is prepared poor, the lower­ Sir, Mr. Speaker, Sir, one of the· most embarrassing statements .

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Mr. Speaker: Order, order.

It is now, and o'clock p.m. to Standing Order 1 6 (2) the half-past-eleven pursuant House will resume before it adjourns for the night.

to report progress House resumed.

Sir, I beg to move.

Enche' K. Karam Singh: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wish to touch on the New Airport and on the Malayan Railway.
Sir, I would like first of all to sub-head 19, Head mercial Development.

During the last 145, General Com­ touch on Mr. Speaker: Honourable Members, of I have to report that the Committee the House on the Development Esti­ mates, 1961, Command Paper No.

1 8 o f 196 1 , has reached up to Head 144.

Consideration Estimates, tomorrow.

10 a.m. tomorrow.

1961 , will be resumed The House is adjourned till of the Development .

, Adjourned at 11.30 p.m. , 14359----700-20-4-62.