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KINGDOM OF LESOTHO ELEVENTH PARLIAMENT NATIONAL ASSEMBLY Daily Hansard (Official Report) FIRST SESSION SECOND MEETING Wednesday 26th April, 2023 (Unrevised) NATIONAL ASSEMBLY CHAMBER Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 [The House assembled at 2:30 p.m.] [RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] PRAYER [The Chaplain Led the House in Prayer] MOHASI HON.

M. S. LEHATA (Makhaleng): Point of order!

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Point of order, Setho se Khabane sa Makhaleng.

HON.

M. S LEHATA: Kea leboha, Honourable Speaker.


My point of order ke ea hore ke lutse fatše ka sheba hantle Standing Order No.

29, Motions for Adjournment – Define Matter of Urgent Public Importance.

Ka hopola hore na hobaneng se ngotsoe joalo.

Hape le hore u ile oa bolela hore u ne u so ka ba u ikhotsofatsa, u ne u ntse u ntetsetsa u sa mphumane.
The reason why ho thoeng before Speaker a tla ka Ntlong a fuoe a Notice, ke hobane that thing e nkuoa e le urgent ‘me e tlameha ho sebetsoa (treat) the same day ho entsoeng Notice ke Setho.

Ha e lule ho fihlela beke e fela.

Urgency ea eona joale ha u e etse treat ka mokhoa oo ‘na ke neng ke e etsa treat ka teng.

This Standing Order, the reason why ke fanang ka Notice before u tla ka Ntlong, it is because letsatsing lona leno e tšoanetse ho sebetsoa.
U sheba the Notice oa bona hore na e bohlokoa kapa ha e bohlokoa, then you make a ruling hore, Honorable Members, I have got this notice from Honourble mang mang ke bona taba ea hae e se bohlokoa.

That is when other members will rise up and support my request.

Mona ke bona ke hloketsoe toka hore ha ke etsoe treat hantle ka a Notice that I have given to your office or to you.

Kea leboha.

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HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Kea utloa, Honorable Member.


U buile lintho tse peli, tseo mohlomong u tla lumellana le ‘na hore lia hanyetsana.

Ea pele ke hore taba eo Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 1 e lokela hore e etsoe letsatsing lona leno.

Ea bobeli ke hore Speaker a etse ruling.

Lia hanyetsana litaba tseno.

Haeba Speaker a na le doubt, Standing Order se mo fa matla a hore a sebelise discretion ea hae.
Standing Order ha se mo qobelle hore a sebetse taba eo a tlamehe ho e tlisa ka Ntlong le haeba eena a ena le in-doubt, ha se re joalo.

Se re instead, Speaker a sebelise discretion ea hae.

Se ngotsoe joalo.

Taba e ‘ngoe eo ke batlang ho e tlosa hohang, ke ena eo u ntseng u re, u e buile hararo u re letsatsing lona leno.

Ha e eo kahar’a Standing Order taba ena.

The spirit ke hore bobeli, the Speaker and Honourable Member ba lumellane.
‘Na ke ile ka u letsetsa ke batla re tlo lumellana, joale eaba ha ke u fumane.

Ke ile ka hlalosa litaba tseno.

E leng hore ha ho na ntlha ea tsamaiso hohang tabeng ena.

Honourable Members, Litho tse Khabane li hopotsoa ka phutheho ea hosane, Consultative Meeting ka 10:00 a.m moo Mohlomphehi Tona Kholo Samuel Ntsokoane Matekane a tlil’o kopana le Litho ka litaba tsa tlhopho bocha, National Reforms Process.

Phutheho ena e tla ba hona ka mona ka Ntlong.


The Business Committee sat today, Wednesday 26th April, 2023, and resolved that the following motions are in order and to be placed on the Order Paper when they have served their Notice.

1.

Establishment of the Committee on Government Assurances, by Hon.

Prof. N. Mahao.

2.

Amendment to Standing Order No.27, Questions to the Prime Minister, by Hon.

M. Maqelepo 3.

Amendment of Internal Security Arms and Ammunition Act, 1996, by Hon.

L. Hlapisi.

4.
L. Hlapisi.

4.

Establishment of a Select Committee to work towards the Adoption of the Moshoeshoe Code, by Hon.

M. Mokhothu and Hon.

L. Rakuoane.

Honorable Members, I received a Notice by the Honourable Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office about the statement that he would like to make before this Honourable House in terms of Standing Order No.28 (2).

Honourable Minister, you may take the floor.

Ntlha ea tsamaiso Setho se Khabane Mohlomphehi Rakuoane.

Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 2 HON.


ADV.

L. RAKUOANE (PR): Mohlomphehi Molula Setulo, ke ema ka ntlha ea tsamaiso ebile e le ea kopo eo ke batlang ho e teka officially ho uena Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Ntlo.
Litaba tsena tsa Standing Orders, ke li kopela hore joalokaha ho ile hoa etsoa Standing Order No.41 mona ha ho buuoa ka litaba tsa motion oa Mohlomphehi Lipholo, ke kopa hore re kope ho uena hore u ke u bitse Baetapele ba Ntlo ena re ke re tlo sheba hore na e be ho na le mokhoa oo re ka li shebang ka oona.

Eona ena ea Standing Order No.

29, mohlomong le tse ling tseo re ntseng re tseba hore li ile tsa eba teng in the past e le hore re tle re li shebe hore na li ka sebetsoa joang ka moso.
We respect the ruling that you have made, feela ke hlile ke batla ho etsa move oo ke hlileng ke etsag thapeli hore office ea hau e ke e lumele ho bitsa Baetapele lintlheng tsena re tlo tla re li sheba.

Ba bang ha re lumele hore re ka ‘na ra etsa khang ha u se u utloile taba empa ke nahana hore ha re lutse le uena tafoleng ho beiloe kofi mona re tla shebisana ka mokhoa o matla, re tla le literature le tse ling e ba re ikapesitse ka tsona but not on the flare kapa mona moo re ntseng re etsa litaba.
Ke eona kopa ea ka, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Honourable Member, ea utloahala le hore ehlile e etsoa le ka oona moea oa ho aha.

Empa e le taba ea hore we already do have a Committee of Standing Orders.

E leng hore e ka ba ho e nkela matla hore joale Speaker a tsamaee a il’o bua le Baetapele ba kene ka monyako ono o so ntsong o le teng.
Ke ne nka eletsa hore mohlomong o ka kopana le bona ba Standing Order Committee la utloa hore na le shebisane joang hore na mohlomong uena le bona le Baetapele le bona eka le ka hloka hore le kopane ‘moho ho li hlahloba.

Honorable Minister, you have the floor.

Point of order, Setho se Khabane Prof. Mahao.

HON.

PROF. N. MAHAO (PR): Kea leboha ebile kea ikokobetsa, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
Matsatsinyana a fetileng re ile ra beha ho uena kapele ho Ntlo ena, Mohlomphehi, pharela ena e teng tabeng ea bolula setulo ba Public Accounts Committee (PAC).

Hoseng hona Komiti eno e ne e tšoanetse hore e be e ile ea kopana ho tlo tla hlaha kapele ho eona Auditor General`s Office, empa ka lebaka la stalemate se tsoetsoeng ke taba ena ea ho se be le tharollo tabeng ea hore na hoa nepahala hore ea khethiloeng ke bongata ka mono o tšoaneloa ke setulo seno, meeting o joalo o ile oa qhalana.
Motho o na le tšabo hore ntle le hore taba Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 3 ena e rarolloe boemong bo bong, kannete mosebetsi oa PAC, the very important committee ea Paramente ena, e tla sitoa hore e sebetse.

Kea tseba hore ho ile hoaba le khakanyo ea hore neng-neng, mang ea neng a lutse Cross Bench e se kile ea e ba Molula Setulo oa Komiti eno.

But it is not material.


Ha ho fositsoe ho fositsoe, it does not matter hore na ba neng ba le teng ba ne ba se ba ile ba liea melala kapa che, if it was wrong, it was wrong, and it cannot be wrong, nor does it establish any precedence.

Ea bobeli, ho ile hoa ba le puo ea hore taba ea hore Molula Setulo oa PAC o tšoanetse hore a hlahe ka Bohanyetsing, ke tloaelo.

It is not correct.

Taba eno is a convention.

Convention is more than tloaelo, it is more than a habit.

It is a law.
It is a law.

Naha eane eo re qopilitseng mokhoa ona oa Westminster Model ho eona, ha e na molao oa motheo o ngotsoeng.

It is governed by a galaxy of conventions.

Those conventions are sacrosanct.

Li etsoa enforce and complied with without fail.

That Molula Setulo oa PAC o tšoanetse hore a hlahe from the Opposition is such a sacrosanct principle in the Westminster Model.
Re se re boetse re kopa, Mohlomphehi Speaker, kannete taba ena ha re se re e tekile kapele ho Ntlo tjena, it calls for an intervention ea Ntlo, ea Office ea hau.

Re ke ke ra lebella hore re khutlele mane hore Komiti eno e seng e ntse e fositse joale e itšoae phoso, e itukise.

It is quite obvious hore lehakore la ‘Muso has an ambled majority in the committee.
Haeba liqeto li ka tsamaea ka mokhoa ono o joalo, naturally they will make a ruling, eo ka mohlomong e tlang beng e ntse e etsa support the mistake they have already done.

PUTSOE Ke kopo ea rona, Mohlomphehi, hore ka ’nete taba ena your good office and this House must be serious with it.

Kea leboha.

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HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Setho se Khabane, ke tseba hape har’a lintho tse ngata, tse ntle tseo u li entseng e le ho bala haholo molao.

Joale ke mametse ka hloko ha u re convention ke molao.
I have very serious reservations.

Ha ke lumele hore convention ke molao.

Ke mametse hape ha u re naha eo re nkileng litloaelo tsa eona e sebetsa ka tsela ena eo u e supang, joale empa ha ke bone hore na ena ea rona eona e qobelloa ke Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 4 eng ho sebetsa joalo.

Ho na le mehlala e mengata moo naha ea rona e sa sebetseng joaloka naha ea United Kingdom.

Eleng hore e ka ’na eaba you are appealing the ruling of the Speaker, maybe that is what you are doing.
U re ntho ena ntle le hore e fumaneloe tharollo boemong bo bong.

Setho se Khabane, bothata ke ha ntho e ile ea hlaha hona ka ntlong ena, joalokaha e hlaha kajeno, eaba Speaker o etsa ruling ka eona.

Joale ha e se e hlaha hape e baka bothata ba tsamaiso.

Ho lokelang hore ho etsahale ke hore ho lateloe tsamaiso e ka thusang hore ruling ea Speaker e tle e hlahlojoe bocha.

Ke eona tsela e ka nepahalang eno, e se ea hore Speaker a re ruling ea hae e ne e fosahetse leha a ntse a lumela hore e ne e nepahetse.
Ha ke supe hore taba eo u e buileng ke ’nete, ea hore ho na le nako eo Mohlomphehi Selibe Mochoboroane e neng e le Setho sa Paramente ena a le on the cross bench.

Eaba komiti ea habo e mo khethela Bolula-Setulo.

Ke bolelletsoe hape hore morao koana mohlomong ka bo-2012, Setho se Khabane Mohlomphehi Moeketse Malebo le eena o ne a le on the cross bench empa a khetheloa ho ba Molula-Setulo oa Public Accounts Committee.
Boeletsi e ka ba hore litaba tsena ha li batloe, ho lateloe mecha e nepahetseng to reverse the ruling of the Speaker on this matter.

Ke eona ruling ea ka eo, Mohlomphehi.

Ntlha ea tsamaiso, Setho se Khabane sa Makhaleng.

HON.

M. S. LEHATA: I thank you.

Ke ne ke re feela for your information, I remember I was a Member of Parliament not 2012 per say but Honourable Malebo ha e le Chairperson ea Public Accounts Committee o ne a bile a khethoa ke ’na.
O ne a se ho cross bench, he was in the opposition a sebetsa le bo Honourable Lekhanya and others, that was in 2002, ka hare ho nako eno, ke ne ke re re etse correct taba eno.

He was never been in the cross bench, ke ne ke re re lokise taba eno.

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Ha kea hlokomela hantle hore na ehlile u re ntlha e robiloeng ea tsamaiso ke efeng.

Joale Speaker o hlahile ka 2012, Mohlomphehi ka 2002, these are two different years.

Eleng hore ho ka ba le controversy mono empa e sa thuseng Ntlo.
Ruling eona ha e sisinngoe ke litaba tseo tsa the accuracy of that information ea 2002 le 2012 but the ruling stands.

Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 5 Honourable Minister.

HON.

L. TAU (Minister Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

in the Prime Minister’s Office): Kea leboha, RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Point of order, Setho se Khabane, Professor Mahao.

that was my understanding of HON.

PROF. N. MAHAO: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

Ke batla feela ho utloa hore na what is the ruling?
Last time u itse taba eo e khutlele ho ea etsoa resolved the ruling that you made.

My Komiting, understanding haeba ke u toloka hantle, ’me ke tla kopa hore u re thuse e ka ka u re, the selection that was made is correct.

Joale ke batla ho utloa hore na between the understanding conveyed last time and the one that I hear insinuated today, re nke hore eo e leng ruling e nepahetseng ke efeng, re tle re tsebe ho tseba hore na haele hantle na tataiso e reng.

Kea leboha.

RT.

HON.


MR. SPEAKER: Ha ho na li-ruling tse peli, ruling e ’ngoe.

Letsatsing leo leo u le le supang, ke ne ke re litaba tsee tsa Likomiti li rarolloe Likomiting e seng li rarolloe ke Ntlo.

Litaba tsena li rarolloe Likomiting.

Ka mantsoe a mang, ha hoa nepahala ho tlisa taba ea mofuta ono ka Ntlong ena.

That is my ruling.

Ha ho na moo ke seng ke le on the merits of the case hore na ho nepahetse kapa ha hoa nepahala.
Tabeng eo, ke supile feela hore ho ile ha ’na ha etsahala pele feela taba ea ka ke hore litaba tsa Likomiti ha li sebetsoe Likomiting, ’me ho lateloe mecha e nepahetseng.

Honourable Minister HON.

L. TAU: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
Lekala la Tikoloho ofising ea Mohlomphehi Tona-Kholo ka kopanelo le Lekala la Puso ea Libaka le Borena, le boetse le tsosolosa morero oa tlhoekiso ea naha ka bophara o tsejoang ka lebitsa la “Operation hloekisa Lesotho” kapa “Letšolo la hloekisa Lesotho.” Letšolo lena le tla thakholoa ka la 28 Mesa 2023, e leng Labohlano la beke eona ena.

Khakolo ea letšolo lena e tla ba lebaleng la lipitso (Pitso Ground) ’me e tla etelloa pele ke Maseru ka hora ea bosupa hosing (7:00 am), Mohlomphehi Tona-Kholo.
Letšolo lena ke ho ntšetsa pele boitlamo ba ’Muso hore ka Labohlano le leng le le leng la ho qetela la khoeli sechaba sohle sa Basotho se tla tsoa ka makholo ho hloekisa hohle kahar’a naha, litoropong, metseng le metsaneng.
Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 6 Tšebetso ena ea Labohlano la la 28 ’Mesa e tla ba Toropong ea maseru feela, empa ho tloha khoeling ea Motšeanong le likhoeling tse tla latela tšebetso e tla etsoa literekeng tsohle tse leshome tsa naha moo tšebetso e tla etelloa pele ke Bahlomphehi Matona, esita le makhotla a litereke, bangoli ba litereke, makhotla a literopo esita le makhotla ’ohle a Puso ea Libaka.
Tšebetso ena ea Labohlano lena, e tla nka lihora tse tharo e leng ho qala ka hora ea bosupa ho isa ho ea leshome.

Ke boipiletso le khoeheletso ea Mohlomphehi Tona- Kholo esita le ’Muso oa Motlotlehi hore bohle re ke re emiseng tšebetso haese litsing tse fanang ka litšebeletso tse hlokolosi (essential services) lihoreng tsena tse tharo litsing tsa rona tsa tšebetso, litsing tsa khoebo le hohle moo re tšoereng teng e le ho kenya letsoho tlhoekisong ea teropo ea Maseru le libaka tse e pota-potileng.
Lekala la heso le leetong la ho bopa melaoana e tla netefatsa hore tšebetso ena ea tlhoekiso ea tlama ka molao, ebile e na le likhato tsa molao ho ba sa baballeng tikoloho e hloekileng.

Ka hona ke se ke ntse ke ipiletsa, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi le ho kopa Ntlo ena e Khabane ho sekehela melaoana e joalo tsebe hang ha e tla ka koano ka ntlong.

Bahlomphehi, lekala la heso le ipiletsa ho lona le sechaba ka kakaretso ho kenya letsoho ka hohle-hohle ho atlehisa morero ona.
Lekala la haeso le boetse le ipiletsa ka matla, Bahlomphehi esita le sechaba sohle sa Basotho hore ha tšebetso ena ea tlhoekiso e phethetsoe, bohle re tle re menahane le mehlala ho ea reka esita le ho atlehisa khoebo ea bahoebi ba banyenyane ba fumanehang mapatlelong a teropo ea Maseru esita le litoropong tse ling ka moso ha matšolo a tlhoekiso a namela hohle kahar’a naha.
Hoa lokela hore ke hlalose ka pele ho Ntlo ena hore bahoebi ba ikemetseng ke bona faneng le ho thusetsa ka thepa ea tlhokiso e leng liharaka, likharafu, liatlana ekasitana le lipolasitiki tse tšelelang toti.

Ka hona e mong le e mong ea tla ba moo tlhoekisong o tla fumana lisebelisoa tsa ho hloekisa.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Honourable Members, in terms of Standing Order No.
28 (2) you may now put questions to the Minister that are intended for clarity for a period not exceeding 20 minutes all in all.

Ka mantsoe a mang, litaba tsena tsa Mohlomphehi Letona li se ke be tsa nka nako e fetang metsotso e fetang metsotso e mashome a mabeli.

Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 7 HON.


M. MATELA (PR): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano ka monyetla oo u mphang oona hore ke botse potso ho Letona le Khabane le beileng litaba tsa lona li hlakile li bile li le monate ho rona re le Basotho, haholo-holo ba tsotellang litaba tsa tikoloho.
Potso ea ka ho Letona le Khabane empa feela e le hore na rea hlokomela litabeng tsa Maseru ho na le batho ba ileng ba phalla, ba fana ka liatlana joalo-joalo, e hlileng e re hlokofatsang ka tsela e tebileng mohlomong mererong ea rona ea ha re ntse re hloekisa naha moo re lebang teng, moo Basotho ba tla kena ka setotsoana hore ba etse bonnete ba hore ba hloekise tikoloho, ho na le e ’ngoe e tebileng haholo, e re utloisang bohloko re le Basotho haholo-holo Lebatooeng la Motete No.
3, moo re iphumanang… ha ke tsebe hore na ka Sesotho li-chemical ke eng ke kopa tšoparelo.

Ho na le mo u fumanang hore likhoere-khoere tse tlohang li-mining mono li kena ka hare ho linokana tse fepelang noka ea Maliba-Matšo, e fepelang letamo la Katse mona moo re lefuoang litsieane ke naha ea Afrika Boroa hore Basotho ba khone ho phela, ha ke tsebe hore na Mosotho ke ofeng ea tla tsamaea a il’o lata likhoere- khoere ka matsoho kapa tsona re tla tla re li lata ka eng?
Letona le tle le re thuse re tle re tsebe ho utloisisa hore na ebe litaba tsona tseno tse ka reng likhoere-khoere tse ntseng li lahleloa ka hare ho linokana ka mono, tse ntseng li silafatsa ona matamo ana mane moo re ntseng re re ebile re ntse re holisa litlhaphi teng, tseo re reng rea tsamaea re li lebisa mose hore li eo jeoa ke batho ba bang hobane ho thoe metsi a rona ke oona a hloekileng ho a feta kaofela.
Nka hlakisetsa le Letona ha le ka hloka, ka mo bontša le litšoantšo tseo ke li nkileng ha ke le mono likhoeli tse ’maloa tse ntseng li tšoana metsi a mono a hlile ha a sa le masoeu ka tsela eo re tloaetseng hore na Maliba-Matšo e joang.

Joale ke re na Basotho mona moo a tla anetsa teng hore mohlomong leano lena la ho hloekisa tikoloho le hle le ate na ena eona Basotho ba tla e sebetsa ka sebopeho se feng, ka metsing ba tla kena joang ba il’o ntša khoerekhoere ena e ntseng e lahleloa ka mono ke li maene?
Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

HON.

L. TAU: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi, kea leboha, Setho se Khabane, Honourable Matela.

Ka ’nete joalokaha ke se ke boletse polelong ea lekala la heso hore morero oa lekala ke hore taba ena ea tlhoekiso e anele naha ka bophara.
Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 8 Empa ka holimo ho moo hape ke boletse ka kotloloho hore re tla tla ka hare ho Ntlo ena re tl’o teka melaoana eo ka eona re reng taba ena ea tlhoekiso e tle e tlame, le bohle ba sa baballeng tikoloho kapa silafatsang tikoloho ba nkeloe likhato tsa molao.
Ke tiisetsa Honourable Matela hore lekala la heso le tla hlahloba boemo bono ho bona hore taba eno eo a e etseng hloko ha e tsoele pele, ’me ebile ba ntseng ba e ntšetsa pele ba nkeloa likhato tsa molao hang ha melao eo e fetile.

Empa le pele melao e feta re tla ntša bohlanka, ke tšepisa Honourable Matela hore bo il’o hlahloba boemo boo ba metsi a Maliba-Matšo a tlohele ho ba Maliba-Matšo a be Maliba-Masoeu.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.


HON T. C. NKOEFOSHE (Tsoelike): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke khahluoe haholo ka ’nete ke morero ono o motle oa ho hloekisa naha ea rona.

Joale ke ne ke mpa ke re Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane a ke a re thuse hore re utloisise hore na ha ho sena moo ho qhalloang teng, Tšosane e tletse, joale o ea literekeng tsohle, o fumana hore moo ho qhalloang teng ke mosi oa thunya, taba ee ea tlhoekiso ekaba re ntse re tsoela pele ho hloekisa kapa joale rea silafatsa?
Ntlha ea bobeli ke hore na ka melaoana eo Letona le buang ka eona, le bua ka li-bi- law tsa li-council kapa le bua ka ona oa environment oo re tsebang hore ehlile ona o hlakile o na le likahlolo kahar’a oona ha batho ba ntse ba qhalla moo ho sa tšoanelang ho qhalloa?

HON.

L. TAU: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Setho se Khabane sa Tsoelike o hlile o bua taba ea bohlokoa ha a re moo lithole tse ntseng li hloekisoa li qhalloang teng ho bonahala ehlile e le tlokotsi ea hore ho se ho tletse.
Ehlile o bolela teng ha a bile a supa ka kotloloho sebaka se kang sa Ha Tšosane mohlomong le libaka tse ling kahar’a litoropo ka hare ho naha.

Ke bekeng e fetileng feela, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano ha lekala la heso le ne le tšoere pitso ea sechaba sebakeng sa Ha Tšosane ka laboraro le fetileng, moo teng lekala le neng le hlile le eo etsa boithuto ho sheba hore na sebaka seno ho ka etsoa joang ka sona ka kopanelo le Litho tsa Mabatooa a mabeli a haufi le sebaka seno.
Lebatooa la Majoe-a-Litšoene le Lebatooa la Motimposo le sechaba se sengata haholo se phelang mono esita le bohle ba ka bang le litsebo tsa hore na waste e ka shejoa joang.

Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 9 Lekala la heso le ile la tsoela-pele kamor’a ho tšoara pitso eo ea sechaba le ho le tekela hore na meralo ke efeng, eaba le hlahloba sebaka seo sa Ha Tšosane ka bo sona.

Litaba tseo li ne li etelletsoe pele ke ’na ka kotloloho.
Re ithutile hore tharollo e ka ba teng bakeng seo sa Ha Tšosane, ’me tharollo e tla ba moo e tla be e se e anela le libakeng tsohle tseo ho qhalloang lithole ho tsona.

Re ithutile hape hore tsela eo sebaka seo le tse ling li neng li ntse li sebetsoa ka sona, ha se hlile ha se tsela e makhethe kapa hohang kapa e neng e ka fihlela sepheo sa hore ho hloeke.
Ke etse mohlala feela, ha u na le toti e kang ea Ha Tšosane, joale e sejoetsoa ka hore feela e katoa ka o mong oa mechine ena ea yellow plant ena, ho sena chemical tse tšeloang ho ja toti eo, ho sena letho le etsoang it is as good as ha monna oa Mosotho a ne a ka reka machine ona oa lekhanyane o tampang fatše, eaba o fihla a tampa toti eno ka ona, che, rona mekonteraka rea tseba hore na ke’ng.

LEPATI Ke bone litaba tse hlabisang lihlong, tseo tsela eo toti eno e lekang hore e etsoe treat kateng.
Re se bile re nkile khato hore Lekhotla la Motse Moholo oa Maseru le qalelle ho bona hore… RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Ntlha ea tsamaiso, Setho se Khabane, Mohlomphehi Letšaba.

HON.

H. LETŠABA (PR): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano ka Letona le ntseng le araba lipotso, joale ka Ntlong ena joale o tla ka taba ea hore Lekhanyane lea tlola-tlola, lea tapa-tapa.

Ntho ena ea Lekhanyane ka bo eona feela ke tumelo ea kereke eo re e hlomphang haholo rona ba bang.
Re lipele re le tjena, joale ha a tl’o tla a bua ka lekhanyane ka mona, ke kopela kereke eno ea heso hore e tšireletsehe.

Kea leboha.

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HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Mohlomphehi Letšaba, le uena u mo hata ka maoto.

I wasn’t aware.

Honourable Minister, hula litaba tsena.

HON.

L. TAU: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi, ka ‘nete ke hula Lekhanyane.

Ke ne ke re compactor, joale u bone mochini ona ha u etsa compact toti ena, e ntse e kokomoha ka mathoko ka mona, eleng hore ha ho na progress e etsahalang.
Ka ‘nete le batlalehi ba litaba ba ne ba le teng, Mohlomphehi.

Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 10 Potsong ea ka ho bookameli ba Lekhotla la Motse Moholo Maseru, ke hore na ha ho ne ho fanoa ka mosebetsi, na moikiti o ne a ile a bontša hore ho na le chemical tse tlang ho sebelisa moo na.

Ke ile ka utloa ba bua ka maleme a mabeli a fapakaneng, empa nkeke ka ea ka botebo litabeng tseno, Setho se Khabane sa Tsoelike.
Bahlomphehi, ho bohlokoa ke hore re etse hloko taba ea libaka tseo ho qhalloang ho tsona, ‘me morero o se o le teng oa hore re tle re bone hore na li sebetsoa joang ka pele ka potlako.

Le ha ho le joalo taba eno ha e thibele hore ka Labohlano re eeng letšolong re eo hloekisang, e le hore naha ea rona e hloeke.

Taba ea bobeli, o ne a re na molao oo re buang ka oona e ka ba ke ofeng.
Oa bolela ha a re Environment Act of 2008 e se ntse e na le likhato tse nkoang, feela ho na le taba e bohlokoa-hlokoa eo re lakatsang hore re tle re tl’o e kenya melaoaneng, ke ena ea tlhoekiso, kapa ea labohlano le leng le le leng la ho hloekisoa la mafelo a khoeli ho re eona e tle hle e tlame, ena ea lihora tse tharo.
Ka nako e fetileng re hlokometse hore ha letšolo la ho hloekisa le etelletsoe pele ke Mohlomphehi Tonakholo ka hare ho toropo ena ea Maseru, bo ramabenkele u tla bona ba hlahile menyako ea mabenkele, ba ikutloile monate, ba bile ba ntse ba lahlela lithole mono moo Bahlomphehi ba ntseng ba hloekisa teng.

Taba eno e lokela ho kena molaong hore tšebetso e eme lihora tse tharo, ho hloekisoe naha ena e hle e be molaong.
Taba ea bobeli eo re lakatsang ho tla e etsa ke hore moahi e mong le e mong, maoto a mabeli a mararo ho tloha moeling oa jarete ea hae, a nke boikarabello ba tlhoekiso eno, ‘me haeba sebaka seno se sa hloeka ho ba le likhato tse nkoang tsa molao.
Taba ea boraro ke hore kahare ho Lekala la Environment re na le lefapha la sepolesa, kapa Environment Crime Unit, sepheeo ke hore re tle re e matlafatse ka bosebeletsi, e tle e tsebe ho alosa bohloeki ba tikoloho hore e tle e etse enforce lipehelo tsohle tsa molao, tse sebetsanang le tikoloho ka mokhoa oo ho leng kateng.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

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MR. SPEAKER: Potso ka Setho se Khabane sa Thaba-Putsoa.

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L. MONAHENG (Thaba-Putsoa): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano… Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 11 RT.

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MR. SPEAKER: Ntšoarele Setho se Khabane sa Thaba-Putsoa, ho ne ho ena le potso e nyanyeletsang?

Ke ile ka bona eka ho ba le pherekano, ha ho phoso, potso e nyanyeletsang.

HON.

T. C. NKOEFOSHE (Tsoelike): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke khahliloe ke litaba tsa Letona le Khabane le tsela eo a arabileng ka eona.
Ke ile ka tšoenngoa feela ke moo a buang ka li-chemical tse ka thusang ho ja toti.

Joale kea hopola hore Tšosane le tse ling tsa li dumping site tse kahar’a naha ka mona, ha lia etsoa cover ka tlase ka ntho e tla thibela chemical ho monyela e le hore ho se ke ha ba le tšilafalo ea metsi ao re a sebelisang, mohlomong lilemong tse ngata tse tlang.
Ke utloa ke tšoenyehile ke taba ena ea chemical, ntle le haeba Letona le Khabane le ka re thusa hore na chemical eo ho buuang ka eona e tla re thusa joang ho ja toti eno mono na?

HON.

L. TAU: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

Ka ‘nete Setho se Khabane sa Tsoelike sea bolela ha se bontša tšoenyeho ka metsi a hlahang fatše.

Ke kopa ho etsa mohlala ka litaba tse peli tsa bohlokoa.
Ha se khale haholo ha ke ne ke fana ka tlaleho ea se bakileng ho shoa hoa litlhapi tse ngata letamong la Maqalika, kamor’a hore ba lefapha la Metsi, la Temo, University ea Lesotho le ba Lekala la heso ba etse lipatlisiso tsa hore na ebe litaba tseno li bakiloe keng.
Tse ling tsa litaba tse bakileng litaba tseno ke metsi a sa bolokehang a theohang ka joale mochophoro ono oa ho tloha ha Tšosane hobane ho phahame mono, mochophoro ono o ea tlase letamong la Maqalika ke tse ling tsa tse bakileng ho shoa ha litlhapi Maqalika.

Pitsong e tšoanang ho bile le baahi ba bontšitseng hore metsi ao ba a chepileng fatše ha ba sa a sebelisa hobane joale a bonahala a se a le kotsi ka lebaka la lero le monyetseng le tsoang toting mono.
Joalokaha ke boletse, re ile ra mema litsebi tsohle, ra etsa phatlalatso hore bohle ba ka khahloang ba ke ba eo hlahloba sebaka sena le ho sheba hore na se ka sebetsoa joang.
Nke ke ka tseba hore na ke chemical e feng ka kotloloho e nepahetseng kapa e sa nepahalang, feela ke batla ho u tiisetsa hore re bile le litsebi tse teng, tseo re itseng ba tsamaee ba eo etsa boithuto e le hore litaba tsena tsa hore na ho tle ho sebelisoe eng ho ja toti eno e tle e be ka tsela e bolokehileng maphelong a batho, esita le mobung hobane ha e kena mobung e ka ‘na ea kena le lipolotong tsa batho moo ba lemang meroho teng, joalo joalo.
Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 12 Litaba tseno kaofela ke re li na le litsebi Mohlomphehi.

tse tla li sebetsa.

Kea leboha, HON.

M. MPOBOLE (PR): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke utloa Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane le bua ka litaba tsa tikoloho hore ehlile li ama ofisi ea bona ka kotloloho.
Ke batla ho tseba hore na ha a ntse a etsa boithuto, joale ka ha ke utloile hore o ile a etsa boithuto ka litoti tse ling, na o ile a hopola sebaka sa Motebang, seo ke ileng ka beha potso ka mona, ka fumana karabo e phoqang tjena, hore na ebe teng boithuto boo a ileng a bo nka sebakeng seo, e le hore qetellong ea letsatsi a tle a thusane ho susumetsa hore incinerator eo ke buang ka eona e fele e be teng sebakeng seo, ene kapele ka potlako kamoo ho ka khonahalang kateng… RT.

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MR. SPEAKER: Ntlha ea tsamaiso, Honourable Minister of Education.

HON.

PROF. N. RAPAPA (Minister of Education and Training): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ntlha ea tsamaiso eo ke emang ka eona ke hore Setho se Khabane se ntseng se bua hantle, ha a re likarabo tse eang ho Bahlomphehi ba Khabane ka mona lia phoqa, ke utloa eka ha e makhethe.

Kea leboha.

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Boeletsi ke hore ka hohle kamoo re ka atlehang kateng, re sebelise mantsoe a bonolo.
Tsoela pele Setho se Khabane.

HON.

M. MPOBOLE: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

Mohlomong ha kea beha litaba tsa ka ka bokheleke bo boholo.

Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane la Bophelo o ne a mpitsi Motlatsi oa Letona, a bile a re o leboha hore ebe o na le motlatsi oa Letona kahare ho Paramente ka mona, a re o tseba Lekaleng la hae e le eena Letona a le mong, ke eona taba eo ke neng ke bua ka eona.
Potso eaka hore na Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane, eo ea Motebang o ile a e ela hloko hore le teng a nke leeto la hore a eo sheba sebaka seno sa mofuta o joalo le hore na implication ea tutulu eno ea bohlasoa boo ke neng ke bua ka bona, na e ka ba efeng bophelong ba Basotho ba phelang sebakeng seno, ‘moho le bao eleng hore ba ea litšebeletsong sebakeng seo na?

RT.

HON.
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MR. SPEAKER: Mohlomphehi o tla araba, ke ne ke re ke hlakise taba ke ena ea hore potso ena e nyanyeletsang, ka nako e ‘ngoe ho etsoa phoso ea hore ho thoe ke e nyanyeletsang, athe ho nyanyeletsa ke ho eletsa, empa potso eona ea Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 13 nyanyeletsa.

Re se ke ra etsa phoso ea hore le nahane hore ha u ka ema ka potso e nyanyeletsang o se a tlameha hore a khethe oena, hobane joale li ka tsoa ka lesoba leno kaofela.
Ha ke batle hore re be le maikutlo a hore ha u ka re potso e nyanyeletsang, u se u fumana preference, ke ne ke re taba eno le eona re tle re e tšoare hantle.

HON.

L. TAU: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano….

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MR. SPEAKER: Ntlha ea tsamaiso, Setho se Khabane, Ntate Rakuoane.

HON.

ADV.

L. RAKUOANE: Ntlha eo ke emang ka eona ke ena ea puo Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano, hore nako e telele Paramente ena ho nyanyeletsa ho kena ka Labone moo ho nang le main questions.
Mona moo Letona le buang taba, there is no ho nyanyeletsa, u botsoa potso, hobane there is no main question.

Therefore, ke lumela hore ho thoe hoa nyanyeletsoa nakong eo Letona le entseng polelo ha e sebetse hohang.

Ho nyanyeletsoa ha ho na le the main question, haeba mong’a potso a utloa eka ha ea arajoa kamoo a utloang.

Mona moo eleng statement ha ke utloe e ka e ka etsa apply, ha ke se ke sheba tloaelo ea rona.

RT.

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MR. SPEAKER: Setho se Khabane, ke lumela hantle hore u bua tlaelo ea Ntlo ena.
Ha ke bone phoso ea eona, ha ke bone moo e re sitisang ho sebetsa tloaelo eno.

HON.

L. TAU: Kea leboha, Ntate Speaker.

Ke leboha, Setho se Khabane ka ho tlisa tlhokomelong ea Lekala la heso ka litaba tsena tsa Motebang le tse ling kaofela.

O entse mosebetsi o motle hore re le Litho tse Khabane re tlise ho litaba tse ka bang kotsi tlhokomelong ea Makala.

Kea mo tiisetsa hore taba eo re tla e nkela holimo ho bona hore na e sebetsoa joang.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

RT.

HON.


MR. SPEAKER: Honourable Members, ke utloela bohloko Mohlomphehi Setho se Khabane sa Thaba-Putsoa.

Nako ha ea etsa toka, nako ena e felile.

I have a notice from the Honourable Minister of Finance about a statement that she would like to make in terms of Standing Order No.

28(2).

Honourable Minister, you have the floor.

Statements by Ministers Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 14 HON.
DR. R. A. MATLANYANE (Minister of Finance): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano ka monyetla oo u mphang oona oa hore ke teke litaba tsena tseo ke li tšoereng kapele ho Ntlo ena e Khabane.

Ke teka litaba tse mabapi le chelete ea Afrika Boroa e teng kahare ho naha ea Lesotho, e bonahalang e le chelete e sa nepahalang, kapa e seng e senyehile.
Ka khoeli ea Mphalane 2022, ho ile ha hlokomeleha hore ho na le chelete ea Afrika Boroa (Rand) hore ho na le chelete e senyehileng kapa e sentsoeng, joale e kentsoe kahare ho chelete e nepahetseng, ‘me e ntse e tsamaea le eona kahare ho naha ka mona.
Libanka li ile tsa tsebisoa taba ena ke Banka e Kholo ea Lesotho, litsi tse hoebang ka chelete kaofela li ile tsa tsebisoa taba ena e le ho li lemosa le ho li hlokomelisa hore ho na le bothata bo joalo, e re ha ba thusa sechaba ba se thuse ka tlhokomelo, ba tle ba bone hore taba eno ha e ikatise.

Ka nako e fetileng, re ile ra bona ha litlolo tsa molao li eketseha, tse kenyeletsang ea ho choatla kapa ho thuoa mechini e ntšang chelete (ATM’s) ka libomo (bomb) naheng ea bohailane ka South Africa.
Taba eno ha e ka ba ea fella ka mono feela, e ile ea fetela pele ea ea linaheng tse sebelisang Rand e leng Lesotho, Namibia le Eswatini.
Libanka tse kholo li ile tsa etsa boithuto tsa ba tsa ikeletse hore e le ho thibela taba eo ea hore chelete ea mofuta o joalo kapa e fumanoeng ka litsela tsa mofuta o joalo li sebelisehe ke hore kahare ho mechini eno ebe ho na le enke e ikhethileng e kenang ka mono e le hore nako eo mechini e ka qhomisoang, e be e senya chelete e joalo hore motho ea entseng ketso e joalo a tle a hloloe ho e sebelisa.
Enke eno ke enke e fapaneng le enke e tloaelehileng ea pene, ‘me eo mechine e balang chelete e khonang ho baleha hore ena ha se enke e hlahang peneng, ke enke e ikhethileng.

Boithuto bo neng bo le teng ka nako eno e ne e le hore lefatše ka bophara le sebelisa mokhoa ona oa ho thibela bosholu ba mofuta o joalo.
Se hlokomelehileng ke hore ha ho ntse ho etsahala litaba tsena, baetsi ba liketso tsena, ke pelaelo, ea hore ba ile ba e tšoara, ‘me mohlomong ba tseba ho hloaea kahare ho eona, chelete eo ba lumelang hore ha ea haseha haholo.

Cheleteng eo e sa hasehang haholo, ba tseba hore ba etse boithuto ba bona hore na ba ka fumana eng e ka tlosang maqapha-qapha ano a enke.

Ba ile ba etsa joalo, ba etsa develop chemical eo ka eona ereng ha e rothetsoa enkeng eno, ebe e tlosa enke eno.
Ho teng ke hore nakong eo e seng e bonesoa ka mabone a na a balang chelete, e tla bonahala hore Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 15 ha e sa le chelete, hobane e se e sena litšobotsi tsa ntho eo re e bitsang chelete.

Ke hlalose hore processes eno e bitsoa bleaching, bleach joaloka jik MAKHELE ’me this currency e se e lahleheloa ke libopeho exclusive properties and features tsa chelete eo re e tsebang.
Ka hona e lahla boleng ba eona ha e sa tseba hore e amohelehe hore e ka reka kapa ea amoheleha bakeng sa tefo ea mofuta ofeng kapa ofeng.

Banka e Kholo ea Lesotho e ile ea re ha e ithuta litaba tsena kapelenyana ea batla mokhoa oa hore na eka sebelisa maloala a feng hore chelete e joalo haeba e kene kahare ho naha ea Lesotho ka mona e tle e ntšoe.
Ke mpe ke hlalosa Mohlomphehi ha ke re taba ena e ile ea hlokomeleha ka nako ea November 2022 e ne e hlokomeleha ka nako eno e le methoaela mane le mane linaheng tsona tsena tse ’ne (4).

Ka nako eo ho ne ho sa hlokomelehe hore bothata ekanna eaba bo boholo joalokaha ho ile ha hlokomeleha ka linako tsa bo March selemong sona sena.

Ho fihletse ha joale matšolong a eona a ho phutha chelete ena Banka e Kholo e tsebile ho bokella chelete e kaalo ka M4.000,000 ea chelete ena ea Afrika Boroa.
Eo e ntseng e tsoelapele hore e phuthe sechabeng hobane joale e qetella e etsa hore Sechaba se lahleheloe ke chelete ka tsela ea hore ha a ile a chencheloa ka eona o sala a tšoere pampiri e ke keng ea morekela letho.

Joale e etsa hore batho ba lahleheloe ke maruo a bona ba lahleheloe ke boleng ba lintho tseo ba li hlahisang, haeba e le barekisi le bareki ba lahleheloe ke lichelete tsa bona.
Se ileng sa etsahala ke hore ka nako ea March Banka e Kholo ea Lesotho e ile ea hlokomela joale hore chelete ena e bonahala e le ngata haholo kahare ho financial system ea Lesotho.

E ile ea ntša polelo eo ka eona e neng e hlokomelisa Sechaba ka boteng ba chelete ena le hore na ha e se e le teng ho etsahale joang.

Ka molao Banka e Kholo ea Lesotho e tseba hore e ka etsa eaba ea ntša chelete ea maloti.
Ka tsela e tšoanang e tseba hore e amohele maloti ano haeba a tlisoa hobane e lula e le property ea banka.

Ka mohlaha haeba chelete e ka ea cha kapa ea hlatsoeletsoa le liphahlo kapa ea taboha, motsoari oa rona o na le matla a hore a e khutlisetse bankeng mane ebe o fuoa e lekanang le eona e le chelete e ncha kapa e ntseng e ena le libopeho tse felletseng.
Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 16 Leha ho le joalo molao ono o bontša hore, hore banka e amohele chelete eno e joalo mohlomong e cheleng kapa e tabohileng kapa e ileng ea hlatsoeletsoa e tlameha ho ikholisa, ka bokhutšoanyane matšoao a tsejoang ke banka a chelete a lokelang hore a nne a be teng kapa a bonahale.
Ha o se o ka isa sekhechana se sekana se sa bontšeng matsoao ba sitoa hore ba re ke chelete ea rona ea Lesotho therefore re ka tseba ho e khutlisa, e lokela e khutle e ntse e na le matšoao kapa matšoao ano a ka bonahalang ba tsebe ho ikhotsofatsa hore ke chelete ea Lesotho.

Empa selekaneng sena seo re nang le sona kahare ho CMA, chelete ena ea Afrika Boroa ha motho a e fumane mohlomong e na le litaba tseno tsa ho hlatsoeletsoa kapa ho cha kapa ho taboha.
Banka e kholo ea Lesotho ha e tsebe hore e ka nka chelete eno ea e khutlisetsa mothong hobane ha se ea eona.

E ka etsoa feela taba eno ke Banka e Kholo ea Afrika Boroa.

Joale re mpe re bontše hore ka lebaka la ona mathata ana hoa utloahala hore taba ena e etsa Sechaba ebe se senyeheloa haholo.

Ke tsoelepele hore molaong oa eona Banka e Kholo ea Lesotho le molaong oa Bank e Kholo ea Afrika Boroa ha chelete e senyehile ka mokhoa ona oo re tsebang hore e tšetsoe ke enke ea mofuta o joalo.
Motho leha a ka e isa e ntse e felletse a ke keng a khutlisetsoa.

Instantly o kena tsietsing eo akabang a nna a tšoaroa hore na joale o e nkile kae chelete e joalo.

Ho tlameha hore ho etsoe lipatlisiso joale a hlalose hore na o e fumane kae.
Ka nako e ’ngoe ekanna eaba motho o ntse a e nkile lebenkeleng a chencheloa ke motho e mong ho tla khutloa lebenkeleng, lebenkele le fumane hore na le lona le e fumane joang joalo-joalo ho fihlelletse ho fumaneha motso oa moo chelete eno e hlahang teng ke hokae joale ho tsejoe ho nkoa likhato tsa molao.

Khetlong lena se ileng sa etsahala ke hore ebe libanka tsena tse kholo tsa linaha tsena tse ’ne (4) li ile tsa kopana ha li hlokomela boholo ba taba ena.
Ka khoeli ea February li ile tsa lumellana hore chelete e joalo le hoja e le ea Afrika Boroa joalo libanka tsena tse ling li ke keng tsa e amohela ehlile e ntse e ke keng ea amoheleha le tsona ha lia lokela hore ha li e amohela joalokaha li ntse li e nka tjena li e phutha ha li’a lokela hore li ka e isa ka Afrika Boroa eaba li khutlisetsoa boleng ba chelete e joalo.
Ka lebaka la hobane e senyehile ka tsela eona ena eo re tsebang hore ke ha ho etsahala liketso tsa litlolo tsa molao, le libankeng mane libanka tse e fumanang mohlomong ke re e se e kene kahare ho bona li nka e le loss ea tsona.

Le ho motho feela ea e tšoereng ke loss ea hae le libakeng tse kholo haeba e ile ea fumaneha Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 17 kapa mechini ea e bala ea fumana hore e teng e ba loss tsa libanka tse joalo.
Libanka tsena li ile tsa lumellana joalo ka lebaka la hobane li re ha ho tsebahala hore na chelete ena e hlaha kae e ntse ekaba e hlaha machining ea Afrika Boroa kapa machining ea Lesotho liketsahalong tsa litlolo tsa molao tseo ho sa tsebahaleng hore na li hlaha kapa li etsahetse naheng efeng.
Libanka tsena li ile tsa boela tsa lumellana ka hore Afrika Boroa e tla Felisa chelete ena e ntseng e sebelisoa ’me e tla etsa issue chelete e ncha e fapaneng hohang-hang e nang le matšoao a macha a fapaneng le a chelete ena e teng hona joale.

Ka la 3 khoeling ea motšeanong selemong sona sena sa 2023 ke date eo re e fuoeng hore ba tla fumana chelete eno e ncha.

E tla qala hore e etse circulate ka Afrika Boroa.


Ka mona ka hae le linaheng tsena tse ling tse sebelisang chelete eno those new bank notes li tla qala ho fumaneha ka khoeli ea June 2023.

Ha li fihla hang-hang li tla kengoa kahare ho mechini ebe ho sebetsa tsona.

E le hore re boloke boleng ba chelete ea Sechaba.

Afrika Boroa ha e-so ka e re tsebisa hantle hore na nakong eo chelete ena e ncha e kenang na eane e tla emisa ho sebetsa neng.
Empa Sechaba se ntse se hlokomelisoa hore le ka nako eno ebang chelete e ncha e tla kena tšebetsong ha feela o amohela chelete eane ea khale ea Afrika Boroa o ’ne o nke the precautionary measures tseo ke tla tla ke fana ka tsona hore na libanka tsena li itse ho etsoe joang.
Banka e kholo ea Lesotho e ntse e tsoepele ho sebetsa le banka e kholo ea Afrika Boroa hore ho shejoe taba ena hore na e ka tseba ho hloekisoa ka tsela e joang, le hore ho etsoe identify sehlahisoa kapa sesebelisoa sena seo ho thoeng batho bana ba ile ba se etsa hore ebe se tšeloa mono enkeng hore se tsebe ho tlosoa, le hore na se hlahisoa mohlomong ke company ea mofuta ofeng kapa company efeng, E le mokhoa oa hore re tle re tsebe hore le rona ha re etsa chelete kamoso re tsebe ho itšireletsa hore sehlaisoa se joalo se tle se hloloe ho etsa eona taba ena eo se e etsang.
Ho feta mona Banka e Kholo e ntse e tsoelapele ka matšolo a ho tsebisa Sechaba le ho ruta Sechaba ka litsi tse tsamaisang litaba including Broadcasting on National Television li radio stations, social media le ho kopana le likarolo tsa Sechaba ho etsa lipitso joalo-joalo le likhoebo e le hore ba tsebe ho ba bontša hore na chelete e joalo e shebahala ka tsela e joang le hore na mohlomong ba ka tseba ho itšireletsa ka tsela e joang.
Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 18 Ke mpe ke bolele hore ho shebahaleng hono ka leihlo la nama ho thata haholo ho e bona.

E hloka ha o tseba matšoao a chelete eno ka botebo bo boholo.

Ka lebaka lena banka e boetse e ntse e koetlisa likhoebo hore li tsebe ho sebelisa lebone lena leo re le bitsang UV light ’me e ntse e tsamaea le libanka le litsi tse hoebang ka chelete ele hore ba kopanetse matšolo ana a ho ruta sechaba le ho ruta bahoebi.
Ke mpe ke hlalose hore ha joale litsi tseo tse fumaneng thuto ea mofuta o tjena li se li le ngata ’me li bontšitse li thuseha haholo ke eona.

Ke litsi tse kang Pick n pay, Woolworth’s, Game, Vodacom le tsona litsi tsa lichelete kaofela, LHDA, Shoprite/Usave, Gain, Tšepo ea Sechaba, Sanna, Hypermarket, Seotsanyane Filling Station, ’me ba ntse ba tsoelapele hore ba ’ne ba rute joalo-joalo le bo Cash Build, li ngata Mohlomphehi ke sitoa hore ke li bale kaofela ke tla nka nako e telele.
Ntlheng ea boraro ke hore Banka e Kholo e ntse e etsa temoso ena ebile e khothaletsa hore Sechaba se sebelise mekhoa e meng ea ho etsa lipatala tsa tefo.

Ka ho fetisisa kea kholoa ka mekhoa ena ea marang-rang eo eseng e sebelisoa joaloka Mpesa, Ecocash, e-wallet, Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT) le Internet Banking joalo-joalo.

Banka e Kholo ea hlokomela hore mahaeng a rona ka nako e ’ngoe mekhoa ena ha e eo.
Le haeba mekhoa e le teng Sechaba sea sokola ho fumana bo motlakase ho chacha (charge) lifono joalo-joalo.

Leha ho le joalo banka e lekile hore e lemose Sechaba se libakeng tseno ebile e ntse e khothaletsa hore Sechaba se joalo se ’ne se tsoelepele ho sebelisa ranta ke a legal tender as well as maloti empa mohlomong ba leke ka hohle-hohle hore ba bone hore ba tšoara maloti.
Re sitoa hore Sechaba se se ke sa sebelisa ranta hobane ranta its a legal tender kahare ho naha ena ’me e ntse e lokela hore e sebelisoe, etsoe ha re hloka hore re tšelele haufinyane mona kantle ho naha re ntse re hloka hore re sebelise ranta e molaong ’me re ntse re khothaletsa hore e ’ne e sebelisoe empa re ele hloko bothata bona.
Sechaba se ntse se tsebisoa ebile se lemosoa hore hang ha se fumana chelete e joalo se ee haufinyane libakeng tse haufinyane le bona joale moo ba ka tsebang hore ba ba bonesetse chelete ho etsa validate hore chelete ena ke e nepahetseng kapa ha se eona.

E le hore ba tle ba tsebe ho bolokeha.

Re le Sechaba sa bahoebi re khothalelitsoe hore re reke mechini ena ea UV light hore le bona ba tsebe ho iponesetsa eona.
Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 19 Libanka li ile tsa laeloa hore li thuse Sechaba ho hlahloba (test) chelete eo ba e tšoereng ’me ba fana ka litšebeletso tsena hohle kahare ho naha.

Banka e kholo ea Lesotho e mothating oa hore e fane ka UV lights instruments malibohong a rona ele hore le litsi tseno tse sebetsang malibohong mono li tsebe hore li na le mechini e nepahetseng hore li tsebe ho bona kahare-hare ho chelete eno.

E le hore ba tle ba se ke ba iphumana joale ba sokola chelete.
Likhoebo le tsona ka tsela e tšoanang.

Ke mpe ke bontše hore Banka e Kholo e tla tsoelapele ebile e ntse e tsoelapele hore e lemose Sechaba sohle ka bothata bona.

Moo chelete e joalo e fumanehang teng e ntse ehlile e bokelloa hore e ee hona mane bankeng moo e sa tlo tla e khutlela kahare ho system ke hore e ntšoe mona bathong e tsebe ho khutlela hore e tšoaroe e le hore batho ba bangata ba se ke ba lahleheloa.
Re mpe re bontše hore leha ho le joalo, leha banka e ntse e nka joalo ke ne ke se ke hlalositse hore ha motho a e isa bankeng e kholo mane ha ho na letho leo a le fumanang.

Bahlomphehi baka, ke kopa ke fere litaba tsaka ka hore taba ena e isa kapelenyana moo kea kholoa re ntseng re salletse morao teng tabeng ea hore re tlohe mokhoeng oa ho lefa ka cash re be a cashless economy.

Ho tšoara chelete e le cash ho na le li risk tse ngata.
E ka lahleha ekaba ka nako e ’ngoe o tšoere eona ena ea mafosisa kapa hoa etsahala lintho tse ngata oa k’hothotsoa.

Linaha tse ngata tsa lefatše li se li sebelisa mekhoa ena ea marang-rang ea ho lefa, ‘me aba eno ha se taba eo re ka ipatelang eona ebile re ke keng ra e baleha re tlameha hore re e amohele ’me le rona re ee hona mono.
E tla re felisetsa le taba ea bobolu… RATSITA haeba re ka tseba hore mohlomong kere, ka ‘Musong haeba re lefella litšebeletso tsa rona ka mokhoa oa marang-rang ha hona moo re kopanang le sefahleho sa motho ebe u u robela leihlo a u batla ho hong (tjotjo).

Ehlile batho bao ba ntse ba beiloe tsietsing hore ebe ba amohela cash.

Sebopuoa se motho ke sebopuoa seo mohlomong se ratang chelete haholo.
Joale re lokela ho ea moo lefatše le eang teng eleng mona moo re reng re potlakele teng hore re tle re sebelise marang-rang a chelete re tle re tsebe ho hlola liqholotso tsena tse ekang tsena.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

[Liatla] Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 20 RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Litho tse Khabane, ha ke phete hape hore ha polelo e se e entsoe molao o re tsamaisang (Standing Orders) o lamella hore ho be le lipotso tse fokolang tse hlokang clarity.

HON.
HON.

M. MASOETSA (PR): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

Re leboha polelo ena ea tlhokomeliso ka letona le Khabane.

Mona moo ehlile ho amehang litšebeletso tsa ‘Muso moo re nang le revenue collection joaloka liposong, haholo-holo le mane Ha Tšosane, eseng Tšosane, Ha Foso moo ho etsoang tsohle tse amang likoloi.
Potso ea ka ke hore na haele mona u buile hantle hore re be a cashless society re sebelise marang-rang, joale ke re na ebe mechine eno eo re tlang ho etsang swipe, eo re e ratang, na ebe ‘Muso o se o potlakisitse mekhoa ea hore mechine e joalo e fumanehe moo li-sub-accountancy hohle ka hare ho naha moo ‘Muso o etsang collect revenue teng, haholo-holo mona Ha Foso?

Ke lumela hore ha u ka re thusa hore sub-accountancy ha re fihla re fumane mechine e re lamella, ke lumela hore re loantša taba ena.
Ke re na ke kapele hakae?

HON.

DR. R. MATLANYANE: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

Mosebetsi oa ho kenya tšebetsong mokhoa oa ho patalla litšebeletso tsa ‘Muso ka tsela ea speed point le mekhoa e meng ekaba bank transfers kapa Mpesa ke bua ka mekhoa e electronic o se o qalile.

Mohlomphehi, u tla lemoha ha u ea traffic mane hore re ne re ile ra qala ka hore ebe pokello ea chelete ea litšebeletso tsa ‘Muso ebe e se e etsoa ke Revenue Services Lesotho.

Taba eo re e qalile selemong se fetileng ka December.
Re e qala hona traffic moo hore ha ho sebetsoa re tle re fumane system e ka re tlosang nthong e bitsoang manual receipt le hona ho tšoara chelete ebe re etsa receipt ka system.

System eno ebe e ntse e bolela ka Treasury hore na chelete eo re e lebeletseng ho hlaha setsing se joalo na ke bokae.

E le hore nakong e tlang ebe e feletse.

Ho ea hlokomeleha le hore re ile ra lemoha hore ha ho ea lekana hobane teng le haeba receipt e etsoa generate ke system, motho eena o ntse a fumana chelete letsohong.
Ho ea hlokomeleha re ntse re tsoelapele ho ntlafatsa marang-rang ao ka hore ebe haufi re tla tseba ho lefa ka mokhoa oa Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT).

Taba eo re se re e khakotse, mona moo Makala a lefang teng.

Ka Treasury re lefa ka EFT, bakeng sa lichelete tse seng kholo haholo, tse lefang bahoebi le lintho tse urgent.

Li se li hlaha ka tsela eno.

Ka mokhoa oo re tla tseba hore ha re qetile Makaleng mona.
Ebe le mane litšebeletsong moo chelete e kenang teng ebe taba eo ea Revenue Services Lesotho e re ha ba sebetsa mono ebe ba sebetsa ka speed point.

Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 21 Re shebile hore taba ena e etsahale selemong sona sena.

Ho teng ho ka nnang hoa re liehisa ke hore feela re lokela hore system tsa ‘Muso li fetohe.

Taba eo e ne e hloka budget ea ho etsa joalo.

Selemong sona sena re ile ra etsa budget hore ho tle ho etsahale.

Re se ntse re qalile Mohlomphehi.

Kea leboha.

HON.
Kea leboha.

HON.

L. P. MOLOI (Lebakeng): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke lebohe le Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane.

Ke re litabeng tsena tseo Mohlomphehi letona a qetang ho re hlalosetsa tsona ka bokhabane bona boo ke reng mohlomong ke hobane rona ba bang re mo utloisisitse.
Le teng ke ne ke kopa hore Mohlomphehi a ke a re otlolle kapa ho hlakisa hobane ekanna eaba ke moraonyana tabeng tsena hore na ho ke ke hoa eba bohlokoa hore nakong ena eo ho bonahalang ho sa ntsane ho ena le pherekano ea chelete ena ea RSA ha e nkoe, e le chelete e illegal u le Letona la Lichelete le uena ka koano ha nakoana ho sa ntsane ho lokisoa chelete eo?
Taba ena e tlilo qobisa hore chelete ena ha re e ntša kapa sechaba sa rona se e ntša ho li-ATM ho seke ha tsoa chelete eane eo e tla re ha re se re ena le eona matsohong ba lokela ho ea e sebelisa ho reka, ebe joale e hlaha e keke ea amoheleha.
Ke chelete e thoto eo re bolaoang ke tlala re e tšoere, ha u tsamaea u ea hona mane Central Bank ka khopolo ea hore chelete ena ha ua e utsoa, ha u na mali matsohong ha u fihla moo ka chelete ea hau, e boetse ea nkuoa hape ebe u sala u se na matšeliso a hore u ne u tlile ka good intension hore chelete eane eo le ntseng le e batla ke ena, ea nkuoa ebe uena u sala u le joalo ho sena matšeliso a letho.
Ke qetelle feela ka hore ke utloile ha ho hlalosoa ke Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane hore e ntseng e tla ka mane ka RSA e ncha e tla tla e se e na le matšoao a mangata e tla tseba hore ho hlake hore na hoo e leng chelete ke ho feng, empa ke re na taba ee ho fapana le ee e ntseng e le teng hona joale eo re ntseng re e sebelisa e sa nkuoe bosholu ke ntho e ntseng e tsoelapele, joale ke re eona eo ha e qeta ho fihla e tlilo sebetsa, joale ke re masholu ane a se ntse a tseba hore ho na le chelete e tlang e tlilo sebelisoa.
Joale ke kopa hore Letona le Khabane le hlalose hore na phapang ea chelete e tlang e le ncha e tlang le matšoao a mangata, le eena e seng e ntse e le teng hona joale ha ho boela ho qhaqhoa ka mane e tšeloa ke li-ink tseo, ebe e lokela ho sebetsa hape ebe ha e sebetse, nakong eno e sa sebetseng e tla boela e tšoaetsa naha ena ea rona ebe re tlilo e sebelisa hape.
Ke ne ke re ke fuoe tlhakisetso hore na eno ha e utsuoa, nakong eo e ntseng e batloa, ha e tlilo tlisa Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 22 bofuma bo ntseng bo tšoana le boo e bo etseng ka hare ho naha ee ea rona le hona joale leha e ntse e na le matšoao na?

[Liatla] HON.

DR. R. A. MATLANYANE: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

Ka lipotso tseo re thusang hore re nahane haholo ka taba ena.

Mohlomphehi, tabeng ea hore Rand e ka etsoa hore e se ke eaba chelete e molaong ka koano ka Lesotho ha se mohopolo o motle.
Ho etsa taba ea mofuta o joalo, ho latela hore na re ho hloka Rand hakae, re e hlokela le ntho tse nyane, mohlala, le ho reka cabbage eo u ka e lemang plot.

Re reka le mohloa, le mollo le joang bona ba likhomo ka eona Rand.

Ha fela re ntse re sitoa hore ebe naha ea rona ea hola, re sa itlhahisetse, ha ho na mohlang re ka se hokahaneng le Rand.
Taba eno ea hore ebe Rand e teng ka koano ke eona e re thusang hore ebe re tseba ho ea reka ka mane kamoo re latang lintho teng, ekaba mabenkele a rona a lata stock ka RSA, ba hloka hore ebe Rand e teng ka koano hore ba tsebe ho ea RSA.

Ka hona re sitoa hore khokahano eno le taba ea hore ebe Rand e ba sieo ka koano re sitoa hore re e etse ha fela re ntse re le boemong ba moruo moo re e-song ho ikemele.
Tabeng ea bobeli ke taba ea phapang ha chelete e ncha e se e kene hobane joale bosholu bo ntse bo tla tsoelapele.

Mohlomong ka ona mokhoa ono kapa ka mekhoa e meng ke ile ka hlalosa hore libanka tsena tse 4 li kene mosebetsing o moholo oa ho etsa boithuto.
Ka hare ho industry eno e entsang chelete hona le mosebetsi o tsoelang pele nakong eno o mongata-ngata oa ntho e bitsoang research and development, e etsang hore ebe re tseba hore re etse maoala `ohle ao ka ona re bonang hore chelete e ea bolokeha from motho e mong le e mong.

Ha ke etsa mohlala, libanka tse ling kapa linaha tse ling li se li etsa chelete ea plastic eo u tlang ho e bona hore ha se pampiri ke plastic.
Ena eo u ka reng ha ink e e hasa, e ka hlakoloa, kapa ea tseba ho bonoa le haeba e le bakeng sa law enforcement e bonoe ka tsela e itseng , e fapaneng.

Taba e ‘ngoe e kholo eo ke tsebang hore libanka tsena tse ‘ne li ntse li e sebetsa, ka thata ke taba ea digital currency.

Hore ebe re tla fetela mokhoeng o mocha oa hore na chelete ke ntho ea mofuta ofeng.

Ebe e ba digital, ha re sa tšoara pampiri kapa plastic.

Hore ebe re tlabe re re re na le chelete.


Mesebetsi eno kamora seoa sena, kapa kamora koluoa ena e akofisoa haholo ke libaka tsena kapa re tle re bone mekhoa eno ea hore re na re ka tseba ho itšireletsa joang ho ea pele.

Kea leboha.

RT.

HON MR. SPEAKER Hon.

Member for Thaba-Putsoa.

Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 23 HON.

L. MONAHENG (Thaba-Putsoa): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke leboha tlhaloso ena ea Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane.
Potso ea ka ke hore na ‘Muso o ke ke oa eba mohau, molemong oa sechaba sane sa haeso se maloting (Thaba-Putsoa) seo joale ntate ea sebetsang merafong a tlile le li-Rand a tsoa mosebetsi ebe ha a fihla hae mona a fumana hore mechine e hlahlobang ha e eo mane mabenkeng a haeso hobane joale re reka lishopong tsa metseng, joale ke re na ‘Muso ka uena Honourable Minister, o ke seng oa eba mohau hore ba fe sechaba sa Basotho nako e itseng hore chelete eohle e matsohong a bona e li-Rand e phuthoe ba tsebe ho buseletsoa e le hore re se ke ra nyotobetsa moruo ho feta mona moo o seng o ntse o le hona teng na?
[Liatla] HON.

DR. R. A. MATLANYANE: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa lipuisano.

Ke leboha le potso ea Mohlomphehi Setho se Khabane.

Ka bomalimabe taba ena re sitoa ho ba le mohau o joalo hobane hangata joalokaha ke bontšitse, ke chelete e fumanoeng ka litsela tse fosahetseng, tse sa nepahalang, tsa litlolo sa molao.
Hoja re ne re na le mokhoa oa hore re re ke litlolo tsa molao tse etsahetseng kae-kae, kapa linaheng tse ling eseng Lesotho mona re ne re tla re motho e mong le e mong ea e tšoereng ke lehlasipa, joale ho thata hore re bone hore na eo e leng lehlasipa ke ofeng le eo ebang ke eena the perpetrator ea tšoereng chelete eno, ke tsoele pele ke re taba ena ea chelete e na le mahlakore a mangata ao a bang thata ho etsa taba eo, Mohlomphehi Setho se Khabane se buang ka eona.
Chelete e ngata ea RSA e teng hae mona e hona mahaeng mane, e tšoeroe ke batho ba phelang moo, re ee re ba bone ha ba le teng hae mona ba re ke loaf.

[Litšeho] Ha rea bua ka ho utsoa kapa eng, re se re mpa re bontša feela hore boholo ba chelete e teng eo ke e tšoereng hae mona ke chelete eo re reng e questionable.

Ke re haebe re ne re ka re ke chelete e fumanoeng ke tsela tse nepahetseng e ka be e isitsoe bankeng hantle.
Re na le lipolokelo tsa lichelete libankeng tse etsang hore re bolokehe linthong tse kang tsena, re bolokehe bobolung, re bolokehe linthong tse ngata tse ka hlahang ka mefuta eohle ea teng.

Empa ho nepa hantle moo ho leng teng ke hore re sitoa ho etsa ntho e joalo hobane motho ea e tšoereng ha re tsebe moo a tsoang ho e nka teng.

Ho fihlela chelete ena e tsoile ka hare ho system ha hona letho leo re ka le etsang.
Re lokela hore moo e fumanoeng teng, motho ea e tšoereng a nke chleete eo ea RSA a e ise setsing se haufi sa banka kapa mohlomong lebenkele leo ebang le na le mochine o hlahlobang chelete ebe ba ea bona hore e ntse e nepahetse.

Chelete ka boeona, ke hlalose hore ke molao, ho eona moo haeba ke R100 e ngotsoe hore this Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 24 is legal tender for R100 ka boeona ke molao, ha u fihla mono moo u rekang u fa motho eo molao, u re mphe lintho tse lekanang boleng ba chelete ena.
LETLAKA Re sitoa hore re ka mohau hore re re Rand e se e ke ke ea e ba legal tender ka koano ka Lesotho, kapa ra re re ka etsa mohau oa hore ba bang ba khutlisetsoe hobane joale re ke ke ra tseba ho ba hlalohanya hore na ba bang e fumane ka litsela tse joang.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Hon.

Members, le eona taba e bonahala e feletsoe ke nako.

I have noticed Hon.
I have noticed Hon.

Minister of Public Works and Transport about the statement that he will like to make, in line with Standing Order No.28 (2).

A statement shall not be debated, but the Speaker may allow short questions to be put to the Minister making the statement for clarity, but shall not allow the asking of any further questions after the lapse of twenty minutes after the conclusion of the statement.

Hon.

Minister you have the floor.

HON.

M. S. LEHATA: Point of order!

RT.

HON.


MR. SPEAKER: Point of order, Setho se Khabane sa Makhaleng.

HON.

M. S. LEHATA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

I have a notice e buuang ka the same matter mona oo ke neng ke lla ka ona.

You didn’t take it very agent but you can see it was agent.

U timme Ntlo monyetla oa hore e etsoe discuss under Standing Order No.29, e le hore re e bue by asking questions.

Re sitoa ho hlalosa hore na u kala litaba joang.


You have denied us the right to discuss this matter.

Ke eme u tseba hore ke u ngoletse hore ke na le thahasello, ha ua nkhetha.

Che matla ke a hau Ntate a sebelise ka mokhoa oo u ratang ka teng, but I’m not satisfied.

Kea leboha.

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Ke lintlha tse peli, ‘me in both cases u ntse u re; ‘I am right’.

Ena eona ea Standing Order No.29 ke se ke ile ka e tšohla haholo.

Ntlo ena e se e tseba hore na ho etsahetse eng.


Taba ea hore e ne e sa kena ka mabaka ao ke ileng ka a hlalosa, e ne e ke ke ea sebelisoa ho sitisa Letona ho kena ho eona.

Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 25 Taba ena ea bobeli ea hore ke ne ke lokela hore e be ke khethile uena joale ha kea u khetha, eona ehlile it’s unparliamentary completely.

Ha ea lokela hore e be e ka hlaha ho Litho tse Khabane tse nang le nako e telele ka hare ho Ntlo ena.

E ka rutantsi hampe haholo.


Ho lokela hore Litho li baballele Speaker discretion ea hae, se be se tsebe le hore se khethe batho bao se hlokomelang hore mohlomong ba bang ba bona ba na le nako e telele haholo ba sa bue ka mona ka Ntlong.

Speaker se fuoe monyetla oa hore se etse mosebetsi oo’nete e leng oa sona.

Tsoelapele Hon.

Minister.

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE (Minister of Public Works and Transport): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
Ke kopa ho etsa polelo e khutšoane ea tlhakiso ea litaba tse seng li etsahetse.

Ka labone la beke e fetileng (21 April, 2023), ka mona ka Ntlong, re ile ra tlisa li number plate tseo re li fang Bahlomphehi hore ba tle ba li sebelise ho bebofatsa mokhoa oa bona oa ho tsamaea.

Hoo re sa kang ra ho etsa ke ho fana ka ntlha e hlakileng ea hore na ba li sebelise joang.

Lekala la heso le fana ka li number plate kapa registration documents tsa koloi e ‘ngoe le e ‘ngoe.
Li na le likarolo tse latelang;  Ordinary number plates – Ke tseo hangata li tsamaeang ka hore na u ngoliseliste setsing sefeng.

 Protocol number plates – Ke tse fuoang Bahlomphehi ho latela hore na maemo a bona a joang, ‘me Bahlomphehi baa tseba hore hona le privileges tseo ba nang le tsona e le Litho tsa Paramente.

Haholo-holo e etsang hore ha u tloha lapeng ha hau u tla Paramenteng le ha u tloha Paramenteng u khutlela moo u lulang teng o se ke ua hleka-hlekoa kapa ua emisoa ke ba molao.
Ke tsona feela linomoro tseo re fanang ka tsona.

Kea tseba hore Bahlomphehi ba bang ba kang Mohlomphehi mokhethoa oa Moselinyane, ba na le thahasello e ‘ngoe ea li-number plate tseo re tlo fana ka tsona ho tloha ka khoeli ea June tse bitsoang personalized number plates.

Ke tseo u ikhethelang hore na u batla ho e ngola joang, ‘me ha feela e le molaong otla etsa joalo.

Tseo re neng re fana ka tsona ke tsa protocol number plates.

Re se re li file Senators, ‘me re karolong ra bobeli moo re fanang ka tsona.
Lipotso tse ileng tsa botsoa ke hore na; ‘joale re etsa eng ka tsona’?

Tlhaloso eo ke fanang ka eona ke hore, li number plate tseo le li fuoeng, ke thepa ea Paramente ea Lesotho.

Ua li sebelisa, ‘me mohla boemo boo bo felileng li tla khutlela Paramenteng ea Lesotho.

Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 26 Ba lehlakoreng la ‘Muso ka ha ka nako e ‘ngoe ba na le ho ba le likoloi tse ngata, u tlameha hore u khethe ka hare ho lesaka la hau koloi e le ‘ngoe eo u e sebelisang hangata.
Koloi eo e le ‘ngoe ke eona e tla tsamaea ka protocol number plate.

U se ke ua etsa change ea re ha u batla ho tsamaea ka koloi e ‘ngoe e be u kenya number plate eo ho eona.

No, ha ho etsoe joalo, e lula koloing e le ‘ngoe feela, ‘me taba eo ha e na ho sokolisa ba bohanyetsi.

Koloing eo eo u e khethileng, e tla fuoa disc e pakang hore koloi eo e tsamaea le number plate eo ea hau e le hore ba u emisang…[Lerata] Disc tseo ke tse ngoloang ka letsoho.

Li bitsoa li TC2, ‘me li TC2 tseo li tla fanoa.


TC2 eo selemo se seng le se seng u tla e fumana ntle le ho lefa letho, empa u tla e fuoa feela haeba koloi eo u khethileng ho tsamaea ka eona o e khafetse.

Ha u sa e khafela u ke ke ua re u na le TC2 feela ha ua khafa.

Re tla lefa li TC2 joang ka tsela ena; u tla le disc ea hau ‘me u tla fuoa TC2.
Ho latela tšubuhlellano e teng moo re fanang ka tsona Ha-Foso, re tla khahlametsa Litho tsa Paramente tse lekholo le mashome a mabeli, ka hore re tle mona Paramenteng.

Clerk o itse o tla re fa office moo re tla le thusa ka teng hore le se ke la sokola haholo Bahlomphehi.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Litho tse Khabane, ke nako ea lipotso tse khutšoanyane tse lelekisang tlhakisetso.
Lea hopola hore le hona mona re thetha kahare ho nako ea metsotso e mashome a mabeli.

HON.

M. MPOBOLE: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke kopa ho botsa Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane hore na le hlokometse hore kantle ka mona Maparamente a mang a se a hakile number plate eo empa disc e sa nyallane le eona.

Na seo ha se na ho bakela Bahlomphehi bothata nakong eo ba kopanang le mapolesa tseleng na?

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, arabela litaba tsa Setho se Khabane.

HON.
HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Kea leboha Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke ka hoo Lekala la heso le ileng la potlakela hore re fane ka polelo ena.

Lekala la heso le bile le ikelelitse hore ho tloha hosane, Bahlomphehi bohle bao e ka bang ba ile ba potlaka ho beha protocol number plates e ka ba ba se ba le mathateng, Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 27 hoseng ha ba fihla ba fumane office ea Lekala la heso e se e le teng ho lokisa libata tseo, e le hore litaba li khutlele setloaeling.

Kea leboha.

HON.
Kea leboha.

HON.

M. MATELA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke kopa ho botsa hore na e be mohlomong joaloka ha rona re qala le ho fihla ka mona ka Paramenteng, na ekaba ha number plate eo e sebelisoa koloing e le ‘ngoe, ha re tsoa ka hare ho naha ea Lesotho, koloi e lokela hore e role number plate eo e khutlisetse ea eona e tloelehileng kapa re ka tsoela kantle ho naha ka eona na?

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Kea leboha, Hon.

Speaker.


Ha hona le disc e ngotsoeng TC2, u ka itsamaela ho ea fihla naheng ea South Africa le ho fetela hohle moo re nang le likamano le bona, taba ena ea protocol number plates ha e felle mona.

Tsa personalized number plates mohl`a li leng teng, le tsona ka mokhoa o tšoanang o ka tsoela kantle ho naha a Lesotho ka tsona.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

HON.

L. MONAHENG: Kea leboha, Hon.

Speaker.


Ke botsa Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane hore na number plates tseo nka li kenya koloing e ngolisisteng kantle ho naha ea Lesotho feela e le mabitsong a ka na?

Ke botsa Letona hape hore na joaloka ha ho utloahetse litabeng tsa lona hore ka mona ka bohanyetsing re na le koloi e le ‘ngoe feela kapa ha re na tsona, na nka sebelisa disc eo ea TC2 koloing ea moamani le ‘na feela e tsamaea ka ‘na na?

Kea leboha.

RT.

HO.


MR. SPEAKER: Setho se Khabane, ha ke hlakeloe hantle hore na koloi ena e ngolisitsoe ka lebitso la monga eona, feela monga eona o u lumeletse hore u tsamaee ka eona na?

HON.

L. MONAHENG: Ho joalo mohlomphehi.

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Kea leboha, Hon.

Speaker.

Ke kopa ke phete moo ke nahanang hore ke ile ka feta teng.

Protocol number plate is issued to Hon.

Member in order to facilitate free movement as contained in privileges according to the Hon.

Members.
Members.

For that sole purpose, therefore, it will be issued to the Hon.

Member.

The Hon.

Member that does not have a vehicle, will not be able to bare a protocol number plate neither are protocol number plates interchange.

Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 28 The number plates shall mean a property of Parliament of Lesotho in order to facilitate privileges accordant to Hon.

Members of the Parliament.

Ke utloa e ka ha ke e behile ka se-ja-tlhapi sena, mohlomong e boela e hlalosa hape.
Ke qetelle ka hore, ka ha Litho tsa Ntlo ena e Khabane li tseba hantle their entitlements in privileges, li hlokometse hore is to facilitate movement to and from Parliament and any other places where they are going because they are undertaking their role as the Members of this House.

Rona re fana ka linomoro, Ntate Lebona Letona la Local Government, Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police o sebetsana le tseo.

Rona re u thusa feela ka hore ha u na le mathata u tle u tsejoe hore na u mang.

RT.

HO.
RT.

HO.

MR. SPEAKER: Honourable Members, ke nako ea khefutso e khutšoane ea metsotso e leshome le metso e mehlano.

LETLAKA RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: I have noticed Hon.

Minister of Public Works and Transport about the statement that he would like to make, in line with Standing Order No.28 (2).
A statement shall not be debated, but the Speaker may allow short questions to be put to the Minister making the statement for clarity, but shall not allow the asking of any further questions after the lapse of twenty minutes after the conclusion of the statement.

Hon.

Minister you have the floor.

HON.

M. S. LEHATA: Point of order!

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Point of order, Setho se Khabane sa Makhaleng.

HON.

M. S. LEHATA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
I have a notice e buuang ka the same matter mona oo ke neng ke lla ka ona.

You didn’t take it urgently but you can see that it was urgent.

U timme Ntlo monyetla oa hore e etsoe discuss under Standing Order No.29, e le hore re e bue by asking questions.

Re sitoa ho hlalosa hore na u kala litaba joang.

You have denied us the Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 29 right to discuss this matter.

Ke eme u tseba hore ke ngoletse hore ke na le thahasello, ha ua nkhetha.
Che matla ke a hau Ntate a sebelise ka mokhoa oo u ratang ka teng, but I’m not satisfied.

Kea leboha.

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Ke lintlha tse peli, ‘me in both cases u ntse u re; ‘I am right’.

Ena eona ea Standing Order No.29 ke se ke ile ka e tšohla haholo.

Ntlo ena e se e tseba hore na ho etsahetse eng.

Taba ea hore e ne e sa kena ka mabaka ao ke ileng ka a hlalosa, e ne e ke ke ea sebelisoa ho sitisa Letona ho kena ho eona.
Taba ena ea bobeli ea hore ke ne ke lokela hore e be ke khethile uena joale ha kea u khetha, eona ehlile it’s unparliamentary completely.

Ha ea lokela hore e be e ka hlaha ho Litho tse Khabane tse nang le nako e telele ka hare ho Ntlo ena.

E ka rutantsi hampe haholo.

Ho lokela hore Litho li baballele Speaker discretion ea hae, se be se tsebe le hore se khethe batho bao se hlokomelang hore mohlomong ba bang ba bona ba na le nako e telele haholo ba sa bue ka mona ka Ntlong.
Speaker se fuoe monyetla oa hore se etse mosebetsi oo’nete e leng oa sona.

Tsoelapele Hon.

Minister.

Staements by Ministers HON.

N. M. MOTEANE (Minister of Public Works and Transport): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke kopa ho etsa polelo e khutšoane ea tlhakiso ea litaba tse seng li etsahetse.
Ka labone la beke e fetileng (21 April, 2023), ka mona ka Ntlong, re ile ra tlisa li number plate tseo re li fang Bahlomphehi hore batle ba li sebelise ho bebofatsa mokhoa oa bona oa ho tsamaea.

Hoo re sa kang ra ho etsa ke ho fana ka ntlha e hlakileng ea hore na ba li sebelise joang.

Lekala la heso le fana ka li number plate kapa registration documents tsa koloi e ‘ngoe le e ‘ngoe.
Li na le likarolo tse latelang;  Ordinary number plates – Ke tseo hangata li tsamaeang ka hore na u ngoliseliste setsing sefeng.

 Protocol number plates – Ke tse fuoang Bahlomphehi ho latela hore na maemo a bona a joang, ‘me Bahlomphehi baa tseba hore hona le privileges tseo ba nang le tsona e le Litho tsa Paramente.

Haholo-holo e etsang hore ha u tloha lapeng ha hau u tla Paramenteng le ha u tloha Paramenteng u khutlela moo u lulang teng o se ke ua hleka-hlekoa kapa ua emisa ke ba molao.
Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 30 Ke tsona feela linomoro tseo re fanang ka tsona.

Kea tseba hore Bahlomphehi ba bang ba kang Mohlomphehi mokhethoa oa Moselinyane, ba na le thahasello e ‘ngoe ea li number plate tseo re tlo fana ka tsona ho tloha ka khoeli ea June tse bitsoang personalized number plates.

Ke tseo u ikhethelang hore na u batla hore e ngoloe joang, ‘me ha feela e le molaong otla etsa joalo.

Tseo re neng re fana ka tsona ke tsa protocol number plates.
Re se re li file Senators, ‘me re karolong ea bobeli moo re fanang ka tsona.

Lipotso tse ileng tsa botsoa ke hore na; ‘joale re etsa eng ka tsona?’ Tlhaloso eo ke fanang ka eona ke hore, li number plate tseo tse le li fuoeng, ke thepa ea Paramente ea Lesotho.

Ua li sebelisa, ‘me mohla boemo boo bo felileng li tla khutlela Paramenteng ea Lesotho.
Ba lehlakoreng la ‘Muso ka ha ka nako e ‘ngoe ba na le ho ba le likoloi tse ngata, u tlameha hore u khethe ka hare ho lesaka la hau koloi e le ‘ngoe eo u e sebelisang hangata.

Koloi eo e le ‘ngoe ke eona e tla tsamaea ka protocol number plate.

U se ke ua etsa change ea re ha u batla ho tsamaea ka koloi e ‘ngoe e be u kenya number plate eo ho eona.

No, ha ho etsoe joalo, e lula koloing e le ‘ngoe feela, ‘me taba eo ha e na ho sokolisa ba bohanyetsi.
Koloing eo eo u e khethileng, e tla fuoa disc e pakang hore koloi eo e tsamaea le number plate eo ea hau e le hore ba u emisang[lerata] … disc tseo ke tse ngoloang ka letsoho.

Li bitsoa li TC2, ‘me li TC2 tseo li tla fanoa.

TC2 eo selemo se seng le se seng u tla e fumana ntle le ho lefa letho, empa u tla e fuoa feela haeba koloi eo u khethileng ho tsamaea ka eona o e khafetse.

Ha u sa e khafela u ke ke ua re u na le TC2 feela ha ua khafa.
Re tla lefa li TC2 joang ka tsela ena; u tla le disc ea hau ‘me u tla fuoa TC2.

Ho latela tšubuhlellano e teng moo re fanang ka tsona Ha-Foso, re tla khahlametsa Litho tsa Paramente tse lekholo le mashome a mabeli, ka hore re tle mona Paramenteng.

Clerk o itse o tla re fa office moo re tla le thusa ka teng hore le se ke la sokola haholo Bahlomphehi.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Litho tse Khabane, ke nako ea lipotso tse khutšoane tse lelekisang tlhakisetso.
Lea hopola hore le hona mona re thetha ka hare ho nako ea metsotso e mashome a mabeli.

HON.

M. MPOBOLE: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke kopa ho botsa Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane hore na le hlokometse hore kantle Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 31 ka mona Maparamente a mang a se a hakile number plate eo empa disc e sa nyallane le eona.

Na seo ha se na ho bakela Bahlomphehi bothata nakong eo ba kopanang le mapolesa tseleng na?

RT.

HO.

MR. SPEAKER: Hon.


Minister, arabela litaba tsa Setho se Khabane.

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Kea leboha Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.

Ke ka hoo Lekala la heso le ileng la potlakela hore re fane ka polelo ena.
Lekala la heso le bile le ikelelitse hore ho tloha hosane, Bahlomphehi bohle bao e ka bang ba ile ba potlaka ho beha protocol number plates e ka ba se ba le mathateng, hoseng ha ba fihla ba fumane office ea Lekala la heso e se e le teng ho lokisa libata tseo, e le hore litaba li khutlele setloaeling.

Kea leboha.

HON.

M. MATELA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
Ke kopa ho botsa hore na e be mohlomong joalo ka ha rona re qala le ho fihla ka mona ka Paramenteng, na ekaba ha number plate eo e sebelisoa koloing e le ‘ngoe, ha re tsoa ka hare ho naha ea Lesotho, koloi e lokela hore e role number plate eo e khutlisetse ea eona e tloaelehileng kapa re ka tsoela ka ntle ho naha ka eona na?

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Kea leboha, Hon.

Speaker.


Ha hona le disc e ngotsoeng TC2, u ka itsamaela ho ea fihla naheng ea South Africa le ho fetela hohle moo re nang le likamano le bona.

Taba ena ea protocol number plates ha e felle mona.

Tsa personalized number plates mohla li leng teng, le tsona ka mokhoa o tšoanang o ka tsoela ka ntle ho naha ea Lesotho ka tsona.

Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

HON.

L. MONAHENG: Kea leboha, Hon.

Speaker.


Ke botsa Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane hore na number plates tseo nka li kenya koloing e ngolisitsoeng ka ntle ho naha ea Lesotho feela e le mabitsong a ka na?

Ke botsa Letona hape hore na joalo ka ha ho utloahetse litabeng tsa lona hore ka mona ka bohanyetsing re na le koloi e le ‘ngoe feela kapa ha re na tsona, na nka sebelisa disc eo ea TC2 koloing ea moamani le ‘na feela e tsamaea ka ‘na na?

Kea leboha.

RT.

HON.


MR. SPEAKER: Setho se Khabane, ha ke hlakeloe hantle hore na koloi ena e ngolisitsoe ka lebitso la monga eona, feela monga eona o u lumeletse hore u tsamaee ka eona na?

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Kea leboha, Hon.

Speaker.

Ke kopa ke phete moo ke nahanang hore ke ile ka feta teng.

Protocol number plate is issued to Hon.

Member Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 32 in order to facilitate free movement as contained in privileges according to the Hon.

Members.
Members.

For that sole purpose, therefore it will be issued to the Hon.

Member.

The Hon.

Member that does not have a vehicle, will not be able to bare a protocol number plate neither are protocol number plates interchange.

The number plates shall mean a property of Parliament of Lesotho in order to facilitate privileges afforded to Hon.

Members of the Parliament.

Ke utloa e ka ha ke e behile ka se-ja-tlhapi sena, mohlomong e boela e hlalosa hape.
Ke qetele ka hore, ka ha Litho tsa Ntlo ena e Khabane li tseba hantle their entitlements in privileges, li hlokometse hore it is to facilitate movement to and from Parliament and any other places where they are going because they are undertaking their role as the Members of this House.

Rona re fana ka linomoro, Ntate Lebona Letona la Local Government, Chieftainship, Home Affairs and Police o sebetsana le tseo.

Rona re u thusa feela ka hore ha u na le mathata u tle u tsejoe hore na u mang.

RT.

HON.
RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Hon.

Members ke nako ea khefutso e khutšoane ea metsotso e leshome le metso e mehlano.

Tea Break at 4:30 p.m. MPHALOANE After Tea Break 4:45 p.m. RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Honourable Members, litabeng tsa the Honourable Minister for Public Works lipotso tsa tlhakisetso ke bone eka ho ne ho setse metsotso e meraro.

HON.

R. SEHLABAKA (PR): Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.


Potso ea ka ke hore na ha ke se ke ile ka sebelisa koloi e seng e bile e fuoe disk ena eo ke tla e fuoa e tsamaeang ’moho le number plate na joale ha koloi ena ke se ke bona e le mokeretla ke se ke batla ho sebelisa e ’ngoe e tla nthusa hore ke phethe maeto hantle na ke tla tseba hore ke thusoe ke fetele koloing e ’ngoe ea boemo bo bong kapa mohlomong ke se ke fumane e tenya ke ile ka tšoara lipere na ntse nka fetolela ho eona na?
Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 33 HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi.

Potso ena ea mokeretla e buang ka… RT.

HON.

MR. SPEAKER: Ha kea utloa hantle, Honourable Minister.

Ha kea utloa lentsoe leo hantle feela ke se ke bile ke kopa u le hule u tsebe ho tsoela-pele.

HON.

N. M. MOTEANE: Ke hula lentsoe le ka fanang ka moelelo oa hore ke ne ke re Setho se Khabane.

Kea le hula ebile ke soabetse taba eo.


Ho araba taba e botsitsoeng ke hore na joale ha kena le koloi eo ke seng ke batla ho e chencha ke kenya e ’ngoe, ka ha TC2 ena u ka e tlosa empa hoo u tlamehang hore u ho etse ke hore u bone hore TC2 ha e arohane le nomoro polata hobane koloi eno ea hae e khathetseng le ena e ncha e so khathale li tlabe li ntse li nkile li-disk tsa registration ea mathomo.

Kea leboha.

RT.

HON.


MR. SPEAKER: Honourable Member, ehlile nako e felile ea litaba tsa the Minister of Public Works and Transport.

I have a notice from the Minister of Gender, Youth, Sports, Arts, Culture and Social Development, about the statement that he wouldl like to make before this Honourable House in terms of Standing Order No.

28 (2).

Honourable Minister, I will not ask you to stand but I will ask you to take the floor.

HON.

H. LETŠABA: Ntlha ea Tsamaiso!

RT.

HON.


MR. SPEAKER: Ntlha ea Tsamaiso, Mohlomphehi Letšaba.

HON.

H. LETŠABA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.

Kutloisiso ke hore ka mona ka Ntlong ena re batho ba baholo, ’me bao motho a ileng a etsa boitlamo kapa tšepiso ebe tšepiso ea ’nete e seng ea papali.
Ke bua taba ena hobane Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane la Public Works and Transport mohla monene o ne a eme mono a re ho rona u tlo fa Ntlo ena lilamba tsena tsa totobala ho fihlela kajeno ha re ntse re bua ha hona le e le ’ngoe ka hona re re a seke a qala Ntlo ena a refa maikutlo a hore e se ke eaba letsatsi leno o ne a qekisa Litho tsa Ntlo ena hore mohlomong li ananele taba eo a neng a e beha kapel’a Ntlo ena ’me ke kopa a phethise tšepiso eo.

Kea leboha.

[Liatla] RT.

HON.


MR. SPEAKER: Moo ebang ho ile ha etsoa litšepiso ha li phethahatsoe empa Ntlha ea Tsamaiso eona ha e eo moo.

Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 34 HON.

M. MATELA: Point of Order, Mohlomphehi!

RT.

HON.

SPEAKER: Your Point of Order, Mohlomphehi Matela.

HON.

M. MATELA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.
Ke le Setho se secha sa motho oa ’M’e ebile kea kholoa ka hare ho Litho tse lekholo le mashome a mabeli (120), Litho tse ka mona tseo ka linako tse ling li ka angoang ke maemo a mang a melao a nang le hore mohlomong a be le khethollo ka hare le haeba ho ne ho sena morero oa ho etsa joalo, ke fumana boemo bona boo re leng ka hare ho bona hobane bo- ’m’e kea kholoa re kaba mashome a mararo a metso e ’meli (32) ba bang ba manyalong ba bang ba ikemetse, ba bang ke hona batla kena hape kapa khetlo la pele, joale re fumana boemo boo e leng hore molao ona o amanang le linomoro polata o amanang le Ma-Paramente ha re fumana tlhaloso ekare hoja ka nako e ’ngoe u fumana hore ba bang ba lekane ba rona ke bona bao e leng hore likoloi li tlabe li ngotsoe ka bona ebile hangata e le hore ba tlabe ba re tšoere joaloka mafumahali joalokaha re le oona.
Joale u fumana hore ka nako e ’ngoe joalo feela kaha ba ile ba fuoa litokomane tsa leeto ka lebaka la hobane re hlahisitse litokomane tse bontšang hore ke balekane ba rona, ha re utloisise hore na e tlabe e le ka lebaka le feng ba sitoang hore koloi eona eno eo a ntlisang ka eona a ntsamaisang ka eona e kentsoeng ka lebitso la hae moo leha lifane li ka fapana ka tsela e tšoanang le eo a fumaneng tokomane ea ho eta na ebe e tlabe e le lebaka le feng le ka etsang hore ebe koloi ea mofuta ono haeba e sa hlahe ka lebitso la Mamarame Matela e hlaha ka Liau Lechesa na bothata bo tlabe bo le hokae hobane mono ha e etsoa ka sebopeho seno ekare e hanya Litho tse Khabane tsa bo-’m’e ba iphumanang ba ntse ba hlompha balekane ba bona ka matlung.
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MR. SPEAKER: Hoja taba ena e hlahile ka nako eona eo ea Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane la Public Works and Transport, ke ne ke tla mo kopa hore a e arabe empa ke se ke mo kopa joalokaha e tla kamorao ruri ke kopa a tle a imamelle hore a e sebetse a e nke mofao.

Honourable Minister, tsoela-pele.

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P. LESAOANA (Minister of Gender, Youth, Sports, Arts, Culture and Social Development): Ke lebohe, Mohlomphehi Motsamaisi oa Lipuisano.
Ka selemo sa 2020, ’Muso oa Lesotho kapa naha ea Lesotho is the host country to the office of the Secretariat of the African Union Committee of Experts on the rights and welfare of the child in ACERWC, ’me mosebetsi oa eona joalokaha e le organ ea African Union taba eno e shebile haholo ho sebeletsa ho phethahatsa African Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 35 Charter litokelong tsa bana le boiketlo ba bona.
Ho tloha kajeno e tlabe e qala the 41st ordinary Session ea komiti eno moo ho tl’o tlisoa litlaleho tsa hore na esale ho sebetsoa joang ke linaha tse hlano e leng, Lesotho, Botswana, Djibouti, Cȏte d`lvoire le South Africa, ’me li-presentation tseno li tla qala ho tloha Labohlano e tlabe e le ha re bula, ’me re tla buleloa ke… RT.

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SPEAKER: E re ke utloisise, Letona le Khabane.

Eena o re o il’o fana ka report kapa o re o fana ka report ka Ntlong ka moo?
O re o il’o fana ka report joale empa ha a hlakisa na ke report ea eng!

Honourable Minister, hlakisa.

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P. LESAOANA: Mohlomong Mohlomphehi ekanna eaba u ne u ntse u sa latelle litaba tsa naha ea Lesotho ka nako e telele.
Ke itse it is the 41st Session ea AERWAC, ka re; e hlokomela li-right le welfare ea bana, ’me naha ea Lesotho ke host country for AU, joale litaba tsena tsa AU le tse ling, hangata selemo le selemo ho fanoa ka litlaleho tsa hore na ho ntse ho sebetsoa joang, ’me litlaleho tseno ho tla khethoa hore na ho uoa naheng e feng, ’me ho tluoe naheng ea Lesotho ho tla fana ka tlaleho ea hore na ho sebelitsoe joang, tema e khathiloeng ke e kae, e setseng ke e kae ho ea ka lipallo tsa organisation ka bo-eona.
Ke tšepa hore ke arabile, Mohlomphehi.

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MR. SPEAKER: Setho se Khabane sa ’Makhoroana.

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T. J. CHEBA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi, ka polelo kapa tsebiso eo Mohlomphehi Letona le Khabane le e entseng le hore a re thuse hore re seke ra makala ha re bona lithepa tsa motho mono li se li le Manthabiseng, haholo lithepa, joale taba ea ka ke hore rea utloa ke mosebetsi oa bohlokoa haholo ha re mametse ha ho buua ka tšireletso le polokeho ea bana.
Litaba tsena re mpa ba bang re se re e-na le letsoalo la hore na ebe re ebe re sena ho fuoa memo tjena ebe hamorao re utloa e se e le bohale feela kantle ka mona ba ba lateli joalo ho thoe na ba bang ba il’o etsang ba ke ba tlohe moo joale re se re sa tsebe hantle hore na ebe re tla sebetsa joang maemong ana ak’u mpe re khobe matšoafo hore na ebe uena lehlakoreng la hau ha rena ho utloa re se ntse re hoelehetsoa hohle mona re memolloa na?

Kea leboha.

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Kea leboha.

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P. LESAOANA: Mohlomphehi ka uena ha se ’na a memang ke re naha ea Lesotho ke host ea African Union on the rights of child so ke mpa ke tl’o u tsebisa.

Ke nahana hantle ke uena le ’na le bohle re memang linaha tse ling e leng hore uena u na le kobo ea bohali hau mengoe.

Kea leboha.

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MR. SPEAKER: Setho se Khabane, Mohlomphehi Lemphane-Letsie.

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M. LEMPHANE-LETSIE: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.


Ke mpa ke botsa Letona ha le ntse le teka taba ena eo ke utloang ka ’nete e ntlhaketse.

Ke botsa feela hore na hana eona AERWAC e telele ee ha ho thoe naha ea Lesotho ke host ke ee eo ofisi ea eona ea tšebetso ea letsatsi le letsatsi e leng moo nahaneng ea Lesotho na?

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P. LESAOANA: Kea leboha, Mohlomphehi.


Ke eona, ’me ke lona lebaka leo ke ileng ka tlaleha hore ka selemo sa 2020 e le hore mohlomong re hle re tsebe hore na re qalile ho itlama hoba host ea the African Union neng ehlile ke eona eno eo u buang ka eona, Mohlomphehi.

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SPEAKER: Honourable Members, we have come to the end of the Business for today.

The House is adjourned until tomorrow at 2.30 p.m. ADJOURNMENT And there being no further Business upon the Order Paper, the Rt.

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Mr. Speaker adjourned the House without question put, pursuant to Standing Order No.16 (2).

The House accordingly adjourned at 5:10 p.m. Hansard: Wednesday, 26th April, 2023 37