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'4!.01 Members Present LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL, Bills 402 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL.

The minutes of the meeting of the MINUTES.

Wednesday, 18th .December, 1D40.

met at 10.30 a..m. pursuant The Council to adjournment, nor, Sm W1L1m11, JACKSON, K.C.M.G., .

President, Hi� Excellency iu the Oh,iir the: Gover­ Council held on the 17th of December, 194,0, as printed and circulated, confirmed.

were ORDER OF THE DAY.

PRESENT.

The Ho 11. the Colonial �ecretan·, lVI r. G.D. Owen, C.iVI.G.

The Hon.
The Hon.

the Attorney-General, Mr. E.0.

Pretheroe, Tul.C.

lNTHODUCTION 01" BILLS.

Pursuant to notice the following Bills were read the first time :- A Bill intituled an Ordinance Town Council Ordinance, to amend the 87, by extending New Amsterdam Chapter general appraisements; avenue of appeal against declaring of the township; therewith.

the area known as between the period by changing the appraisements; by Winkel to be part and for purposes connected The Hon.

F. Dias, O.B.E.
F. Dias, O.B.E.

; (Nominated Unofficial Member).

The Hou.

E. F. McDavid, M ..

B.E., Colonial Tre11 surer.

The Hon.

F. J. Seaforn, 0.B.E., (George­ town No1·th).

The Hon.

M. B. G. Austin, 0.B.E., A Bill intituled an Ordinance to amend the Tax Ordinance, 1939.

Licences an Ordinance A Bill intituled Miscellaneous by providing Licences connected G�nerat).
Ordinance, for the abolition Chapter 108, of Omnibus and for matters Districts in Mining with the aforesaid.-(The to amend the Attorncy­ (Nominated Unotl:icia.l lVJ ember).

Notice was given thrit at the next or a The Hou.

'iV.

A.

D'Audrade, Comptroller of Customs.

meeting subsc'lurnt he moved that tlte Bill,; be read the second time.

of the Council it would The Hon.

N. M. Ma.de11uau, Director of 1ledical Services.

Tl,e Hon.

M. B. laiug, 0.13.E.. of Lauuur and Local Govern­ Com­ missioner meut.
The Hon.

G. 0.

Ca�E', Director of Pub­ ] ic vVor ks ;iud Se,L Defc·n<:CS.

ExPIIHNG LAws CoN'rINuANC� BrLL.

T m-: COLONIAL SECRETARY (lVIr.

G.D. Owen): I beg to move that a Bill inti tu led "An Ot·dinance hiin ex.pirin nnd passed.

g laws" be reo,d a third time to continue cer­ The Hou.

L. G. Crea�P, Director of lVlr.

DIAi::l seconded.

Educiition.

The Hou.

Percy 0.

·wight, O.B.E., (Georgetown Oen trnl ).

Question " That this Bill be now read a third time aud passed " put, and agreed to.

The Hon.
The Hon.

Peer Bacchus 1'\Vestern Ber­ Bill read the thit'd time and passed.

bice).

'l'lie Hon.

E. M. \\-,Llc:ott (Nominated Unollicial :Member).

The Hou.

C.H.

Jacob 'North ,�re8tern ' Distiict.).

The Hon.

A. G. King (Demernrn Hi,0e1·).

Tlie Hon.

J.

'\V.

Ja.c;kson (Nominated UnoHici,il Member).

G.-1MBLJNG PREVEN'l'ION (AMEND�rnNT) BILL.

furthei· "An Ordinance Tm, ATTORNEY-GENERAL (Mr.


I beg to move that a Bill to amend Prcthnroe): intitulcd the Gnmbling P1evcntion Chapter 95, by m,iking it an offence for any person in the Colony to sell ot· deliver any ticket in nny Lottery 8ide the Colon.5," pas�ed.

out-.

be read a third time and conducted Ordinance, The Hon.

T. Lre tEsseqnelrn River).

403 Bills 18 DECEMBER, 1940.

Georgetown Rating Bill 404 Mr. D'ANDRADE (Comptroller of Question " That this Bill be now read a Customs) seconded.
third time and passed " put, and agreed to.

Question " That this Bill be now read a Bill read the third time and pn.ssed.

third time nnd pn,ssed" put, and n,greed to.

Bill read the third time imd passed.

COLONIZATION FUND (RESERVE APPROPHI A'l'ION) )311,L.

­ THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL: : I beg to move that a Bill intituled FIREARMS (AMENDMEN·r) BILL.

Ordinance transfel' general revenue third time and passed.
to mnke provision of the coloni7,ation reserve of the Colony " be read a I beg " An Ordi • Ordinance, Mr. l\:IcDA VID (Coloniid fol' the to the 'l'reasu!

'er) "An to move that a Bill intituled nance to amend the Firearms 1940, with respect , Firearms the Police may be disposed cretion passed.

read a, third time and of the Commissioner to of at the dis­ " be of Police to the da,te upon which which have been surrendered Mr. AU8T1N seconded.
Question "That this Bill be now read ::i, third time and passed " put, and agreed to.

Mr. D'ANDRADE seconded.

Bill read the third time and passed.

Question " That this Bill be now read a third time and passed " put, and agreed to.

Bill read the third time and passed.

GEORGETOWN (TAXATION AND RATING CONCESSIONS) Tm ATTORNEY-GENERAL: I beg BILL.
to' move that a Bill intitulecl " An Ordi­ nance to confer power on the Georgetown Town Council tially the owners of certain properties the City from the liability to pa.y taxes or rates for a limited time and passed.

to exempt or to exempt par­ in period" be read a third SEA DEFENCES �AM ENDMEN·r) BILL.
Mr. CASE (Director of Public Works : I beg to move th,tt a and Sei� Defences) Bill intituled further amend the Sea Defences Ordinance, Chapter 118, with respect from the foreshore stumps of felled third time ,tnd passed.

owners of the trees " he read a " An Ordinm1ce by estate coiirida to the removnl to Dr. MACLENNAN (Dil':c; seconrled.

Services) ctor of .Medical Question third time and pitssed "That this Bill be now rearl n, " put, and agreed to.

Mr. D'ANDRADE seconded.


Bill re::i,d the third time ,1,nd passed.

Question " That this Bill be now read a third tillile and passed" put, and agreed to.

Bill rend the third time and passed.

DRAINAGJ, Brr,L.

AND IRRIGA'L'ION THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL: I beg to move that a Bill inti tu led " An Ordi­ nance to establish gation Board; to define its duties 1111d prescribe connected read a third time and passed.
iti:; powers and with the matters aforei:;aicl" for pul'poses be the Dminage and ll'l'i­ G1w1wwrowN The Council resolved nu,L.

RA'J'JNG into Com­ itself to consicle mittee m1d prncecclecl following Bill clause b_v clause :- an Ordinance A Bill intituled the Taxes method to be adopted by the and Rates to be levied and collected Mayor and Town Council in respect one.
of Georgetown hundred of the year nineteen in computing to prescribe and forty­ r· the tho Clause 2-Comput-i�tion of taxei; aucl rates for 19-!

I. Mr. JACOB: I beg to move the Mr. D'ANDRAOE seconded.

deletion give the Town Council of this clause.

This clause will power to levy taxes 405 G-.orgetown Rating Bill LEGISLATIVE douNcii:.. -Committee 406 should not pay on those improvements.
unfair that those properties in the town and, I think, it accot·ding t,o the of 1937. and rates on valuations Georgetown Rating Ordinance From I 937 to now there lrn.ve been various improvements is distinctly which have b een improved any taxation think some other meftns should be adopted, and I suggest for the careful of Government be taken and not the 1937 one.

The 1937 assessment was verv low, and there w,Ls a great deal of complaint in the genernl appraisement It is far more agreeable valuation�.
about it resulting in 1938-193().

tlrnt the 1939 assessment to take the 1939 I considenLtion th,1t of the Corporation, of this Bill should go further was made here yesterday by Central who a.re Mayor and Deputy for Georgetown appraisement A suggestion the hon.

Member (Mr. Percy C. Wight) and supported by the hon.

Member for Georgetown South (Mr. Gonsalves), Mayor respectively the provisions and make it legnl for the Town Council not to h,we iL general two 0r three vears.
The onus is on the Town Council They failed to do so in 1939 and 1940 and proba,bly will fail again in 1941, and so they have come back to this Council to ask for special powers to levy taxes on the 1937 assessment.

I do not think this Gov­ ernment ought to assist in that matter.

I do not think this Gov­ ernment should assist to carry on an irregularity the Town Council of that kind.

t'o put their house in order.

the Town Council for nnothPr expenditure for 1940 is $4,800 of the general public.
The formation approved and the estimated expenditure $5,000.

Those are authenti.c I do ask hon.

:Members to give other hon.

Members the painful duty to refer to figures over and over that ar·e correct.

for 1941 is figures, and of this Council not was support is a revote, and It "'as stated vesterdav that the esti rn>1.te fo�· 19!0 lrn8 not been that conte11tion I would of 1939 which showed that the for 1939 wa8 $1,300 expenditure approved spent.
There is no note on this document to show that the a.mount to further like to refer this Council to the O,tficial Gazette approved expenditure while the estimated $10,001.

It only shows that cert>1.in Members of this Council- and I am sorry to say them arc a good many-deliberately make statements this Council and to the general Those statements are published Press and create the impression that Mem­ bern-t1t least those who do not control the Press-get up hel'e and make rash state­ ments.
It is time that the Press of this Colony realize flicting statements ments.

One section tinually ing wrong information.

have to refer to this matter again.

which are misleading to public.

in the of the Press is con-· the public by publish­ J hope I shall not that they should verify con­ or publish misleading both state­ Yesterday when I quoted figures taken The i\·l ember for Central the hon.
and stated tlutt of the Mciyor and Town was wasted or about to be from the O.fficial Gctzette over $20,000 wasted in assessment, Georgetown took ,t slip of paper from his pocket and began to quote figures which were absolutely incorr�ct.

amount spent in 1938 for appraisements at the instance Council as d,,tailed in the Official Gazette dated 23rd December, 1939, at page 2,375, and signed by the Mayor, Percy C. Wight, and the Town Clerk, G. D. Bityley, $1,604.48.
-taken again from the U tficial Gazette­ was $10,001.35.

I do not know what is the amount given in the Town l-bll, lmt this is what every responsible by-the Official Gazette printed the Governor and published citizen goes of the Colony, of His Excellency for the in- In 1939 the actual expenditurn by the authority was clear that and Richter, brought about by mismanagement I have made it perfectly $21,000 was to be spent by the Town Council up to the encl of 19-U.
Then I went further and stated that owing to litigation another $10,000 had been spent.

}Iessrs, ·wieting had a Supreme Court matter with the Town Council as the result of the apprnisement.

That timount and the $21,000 to be spent by the Town Council make a total amount of over $30,000 of the ratepayer,;' money under expenditure Council mess.
1'hat statement but I am happy to s,ty that my statement the first is disputed, in L, substantially correct, Ltd., and other people on this 1'own instance l1'urther it is stated that I have an object; m,,n, and that is .why I am a disappointed I make the statement.

appointed.

fact that I contested Town Council and failed.

I think it is within the knowledge of all I m,1y be dis­ was ro,ide to the fot· a seat on the on three occasions Refel'ence 407 Geo1·getown Rating Rill 18 DECEMBER, 1940.
-Committee 408 ments- on the a.re put Elected Ordinance of members at present not so dis­ to get on the Town it should cause me to come to and make statements criticiz­ that if is clrnnged and that the hon.

Member for Georgetown Cen­ tral lost at least thret� times before he got into the Legislature.

It is no crime or dis­ grace for any public man to be defeated at the poll even on six occasio11s.

8tates­ men all over the world have been defeated over and over.
I am therefore appointed at my failure Council that this Council ing the Town Council.

I maintain the Town Council there is a different system of elc<.

:tion, the majority Town Council will not be there.

I go further and say that if the recommenda­ tions of the Royal Commission into effect several Members of this Council will not be here.

It is time that hon.

Members of this Council, the Elected Members, realize particularly tbat it is the voice of the people that has placed them here.
They may not he wealthy, the Press and cannot own properties, but they certainly live in the Colony and contribute to the taxes and rates and should h,1ve the right at least the large majority of voting, hon.

Elected them.

I plead with Members other Members when not to contradict are with­ they know that their statements out merit.

In this case it was deliber­ ately done.

I am sorry to have to say that, but the hon.

Member tral deliberately here.


He is Mayor of the City and it is a shame, a scandalous man holding such an exalted Colony to come to this Council ,tncl make statements.
misleading for a gentle­ post in this for Georgetown made misleading cannot control statements disgrace, Cen­ of expendit of laneous-Appraisements at the instance the Mayor and Town Council-the approved ure for apprnising estimated prop­ erties on account of improvements was $800 and for genenLl nppraisements of the City for the year J 938 (to cover cost of ,1ny appenls) $500 rnaking a The actmLl expenditure was as follows:- total of $1,300.
Appra-ise111ent8 on Account of Improve­ Advertising Solicitor's ... Fees for 5 unheard Ap- .

.. $ 47.39 peals-less 50% Solicitor -A ppearanccs 12.50 -10 Appeals 50.00 Mr. JACOB (interjecting): I would like to know where the hou.

Member is getting his figures from now.

Will he quote the page?

Mr. PERCY C WIGHT: The hon.

to the 1039 expenditure, �fomber referred and I lrnve particularly cut out this part of the statement from the O.

(ficial every hon.

Member of Couneil to see.


on the 1939 expenditure Gazette.

It is there for the whole of the Mr. JACOB : I lrn,ve O.fficial Gcizette dated Decewi>er should like to give it to the hon.

Member from it.

for him to quote those figure;; for 1939.

I have the one 23rd, 1939, here, and I Mr. PERCY C. WIGHT: These are in the O.fficial that, I iim not responsible figures published If the hon.

Member does not for He can in that direction.

the revised Gazelle.


understand his ignorance juggle with figures c;111, but tluLt does not concern reading from the statement the Official Gazette- Costs awarded Serving Stoby, Appellants ... $ 82.48 etc., Car Hire ... 16.68 Gomes & Santos- Notices, me.
I ,Lm published more tha11 most people in Appraisers ... 1,632.00 Seth, Thorne & D'Andrade-Pre- Notices 120.00 paring and Serving General Booklet Appraisements- Appeal Cases ... $ 12.88 Advertising Crane's Solicitor-Appearances-270 Solicitor at $5 less 50% Appellants costs Witness 2.40 cases l,3!

;Q.O0 cases 195.00 1,922.00 Fee for 78 unheard fees 96 Those appellants are the people who got on appeal from the appraise­ an injunction ment of their property.
cided the matter and the Town Council abided by the decision.

The Judge de­ Mr. PERCY C. WIGHT : With regard to by the hon.

Member of the�last anticipa­ mis-statem of the Official Gazette I must say that it is another in­ with figures.

I read of the to a great deal of the rema,rks speaker stance of his juggling from a portion same elate referred and had cut it out particularly ting that gentleman's fact�.

The facts are clearly the hon.

Member has avoided previous d:iy the hon.


Mewber clearly stated thiit it had cost the Town Council bP,tween $30,000 a,nd $40,000 over that mess, yesterday and he said it was $20,000 this morning he says $21,000.

I made it from an perfectly Official Gctzette, extract and I dis­ tinct.ly from the stated that therein ent of set out but them.

On a clear.

that I was reading under "Miscel- 4-09 Georgetown Rating Bill LEGJSLATIVE COUNCIL.
- Cominitl ee 410 Action-vVhite v. Town Clerk- against costs ... $ �40.00 Deposits J.

A. Luckhoo -fee ... ... 500.00 Costs aw ardcd plaintiff tion Proceedings -Injunc- .. .

.. .

1,414.44 Action 1,014.98 Costs awarded Taxed Bill of Costs as between plaintiff Solicitor less deposit J.

A. Luckhoo's and Client, against uotitS $2.40 fee $500 ... 1,152.64 Jnvalidating 64 $1,892 V.C.

Dias-Drafting in con- and services Ordinance th crew ith necti�n Memorandum on the system of .. .
150-00 b,kr• the koul,lt-­ nmtter awl sen wl11•tlil'r thl' Nl>L[,e1J1euts on for Georgetown us he is of n superior 1;lwse p:Ldi�ul:11· do ask Your Ext:dle.ncy to to vorif_1· this p;1rt.icula1· hon.

!Vlen,he1· tPII,; the superior ;1m of the inforior [ am sulfering hP is suffering just want to rn1il the lies-the lx1se lieti­ made on the subject.

natun•--0lle of kind on God's cMth->Lnd T from no co1nplPX.

from ,1 superior kind, i,; t:or1·cct or not,.

Perh,tps l co111plex.


CL•ntrnl, \\']10 and valuation n,ting town and suggestions improvement Crane, by Alfred V. in George­ LT�.B ILond.)

for Tm: CHAIRJ\IAN: Tlie himsrlf to Paditm10nt,wy hon.

ifomber l.tn­ 85.00 must conliue !

gun,gt• They 1mdrn a grnncl tota.l which I stated yesterday in round figures.

of !ji L0,001.

:3ii, .\fr.

,JACOB: He· Juts nmdc ba,;c rnis­ sb1te1uents this Uouncil ,�nd t.Jie pub I ic.
with the object of· rni,;leacling and placed esti­ properti P.xpended ,,t ati to the rnorle es.

All of these to the snm of H,000 on for 1 D�-0 that nuwunt has as there has been no for 1940.

In tho 194, I \Vith rega.rd the @stirna.tes not been valuations mates the amount is 1·P-voted at $5,000 to be used in the event of a settlement heing arrived of appmising have been added together �nd ,ttnounts If tlrn.t is not made to total !ji:H,000.

juggling I rlo not know what is.


That i;; iu keeping with the He does not last 8peaker's satisfy comes here, and it iti bec<Luse of tlmt he m<Lkcs wild per­ statew.ents ctnd attackti sons superior from inferiority willing without even lll>Lking he should Ntop hi;; unseL·Ully this Council.

statemeuts.

himself as to facts before he to allow him to continue that in figures 11-ith to do so behaviour to himself.

He is suffering complex.


I am perfectly the suggesLio11 I was rpported this morning to have stLid was put down for a new valu­ that $10,000 ation scheme.

Hon.

Membern here ,vill reciLll thn.t I made no imch .�tatement.

·what I did s>ty was tlmt !ji4,000 was put � down but w�,s not spent and was therefor c,uried ·with with an addition.

these remttrb I take my se�,t.

If the hon.

Member w,1nti; ct,n >Lpply will ;;upply to the Town Council and they hilll with every bit of it.
fonval'Cl any further Tm: CHAfH.iYfAN: himself The hon .

.Member to Pm·li,1mentary pro­ must lilllit cedure.

Mr. JACOB: I ,1111 saying, not thi11k tlte hon.

Merulie1· allowed Lo continue anti t,his Council.

mi,;lecl town North for quite a long time.

si 1·, l do should be the public to mislead The public has hr•cu by tlH' hon.

Member for Georgr­ Mr. PERCY C. WIGHT: I do not know why the hon.

Mrlllber for Geo1·ge­ town North (Mr. �mforcl) should be brought of facts.

in.
in.

Tlrnt is another mis-statement MI'.

JACOB: [ ask tha.t my rlissent he recorded.

T11E UUATHMAN: [ regret that can­ not be done.

'1'11() that tho cbuse a division if he likes.

hon.

lYiember ha,; moved be deleted and he can have 7VJ.r.

JACOB: The Council is so depleted !

Trrn CHAIRMAN : I am ttfrnid that ho inform>Ltion the hon.

Member's appe<1l Members hati not gone very far.

to the ]i;lected Mr. JACOB: I am not going to a1rnwer the inelevmlcies ,md mis-statement� m11do.
I have given the page and date of the O.ffi­ cial Gltzette from which ::io that my statements can be verified.

I quoted my figures I Question " '.L'hat the Clause ;;tand part of the Bill " put, ,md ngreed to.

The Coun�il resumed.

N oti cc wa,s given that at thP next or tneetiug a subsequent of the Council it 411 U.S.A.

Bases Bill 18 DECEMBER, 1940.

-Second Reading 4 i 2 \Voulrl be moved that the Bill be read a third time and passed.

(The Attorney­ General).


The first object of this Bill is to vest in the Colony certain lands, but as the boundarieH of those bnds are not yet known they cannot be defined in the Hill.

Actiu1srr10N OF LAND (U.�.A.

Arn AND Therefore the only possible thing to do NAVAL BASES) 131LL.

Tim A1'TORNEYGENEHAL: J beg for fifty that the United St,ites Govern­ "An Ordi­ to move tlmt ,.

!

:{ill intituled nance to provide for the immediate vest­ ing of ecrtain lands in the Colon_,· and for " be read ,.
purpo;;es eonneetcd therewith ;;econd time.

I suppose all bon.

Mem­ bers present in this Council to-chy ,u-c aw,Lre of the Agreement the made between Government of the United Kingdom aud the Government of the United States of Amcriea whereh}7 iu exchange destroyers the Imperial Government undertook ,Lir ment should have the use of cert,1in the and na V,Ll bases in Newfoundland, \Vest Indies and this Colony.
That agl'lle­ ment provided grn,ntecl beri; an, 1.LWtLre United States of America implemented their side of the agreement over the destroyers.

It is now for this Council, to cany out our part.

by providing the land for use by the United necessary States of America ,ts air lLnd naval b,tses.

th,Lt the bases shall be on lease for 99 years.

Hon.

Niem­ of the fact that the so far as this Colony is concerned, by handing power to define in Council with when of any laud requirer!
is to request this Council to invest the Govel.

'UOI' the bound,wies they are known.

This Bill then provides that wheu the boundaries published in an Orde1· in Council within such boundaries become Colony lands.

It is necessary to put that provision speedy process in the Bill beeause may be required.

and arc defined shall forthwith the laud� Pu;.pose to these eases.

power is ,t publi<: Hon.


J'l'Iembers mav wonder whv the s of Land for Publi,; is not a,pplicable The first is that the whethe1· of of hmd for the purpose Acquisition Ordinance There are two reason8.

it is extremely doubtful acquisition it to a foreign leasing purpose at ,LIL The second is tlmt iu the caw of private land;; certain t,Lken by the land-ownern nance which might hold up the ,Lcquistion for wme considerable particular citse transfer matter of some urgency.
The :.ctmLl l'ight to occupy the land m,.y also be required very quickly.

Provision in the Bill whereby the elate of vesting in, tmd occupation fixed by the Governor in Council when the facts are known.

At the momeut it is not known when time.

In this of title may be a by, the Colony shn.11 is therefore made under that Ordi­ action can be be of For this purpose it iR clearly desirable as ,tny possibility arising of miscon­ in respect in respect of many leases the land will be required.
should Le the Government, of lands which may be affected.

of all the by the various to have one lease in respeet Ol' possibly that the lessor that will prevent ception of the ownership of the land concerned.

It is al:so a practical advantage each base, instead b,Lses, proprietors It will save considerable to the proprietors the necessity In the first plaee, therefore, for the Colony to acquire that they may afterwards United States of America.
it was With regard to the Bill itself, to devise a new procedure which defined to be the lands when in a manner which is both fair and to all the cir­ h,wing regard If occupiers.

to the p1·esent necess,ir·y would enable secured reasonable, eurustances, hon.

Members will just turn to the Bill of executing separate deeds.
they will see that in Clause 2 power is in Council given to the Governor certain Order in the Governor hv l.iLncls-" Council shall define the bounda.ries of the required lands and from the elate of the Order or from such later elate a,; 1mw be specified become Colony lands."

the lands in order be leased to the in the Order those ttreai; ;lmll but not ex,Lctly, time and expense it is necessary by relieving before, them from to acquire As I mentioned it is not known exactly where those batles will be :;ited.
We know appt•oximately and therefore that any of the property privately be private that a la1·ge 1 but it is fairly p,Lrt of it will be Crown land.

we are not definitely certain will be involved owned.

Prol.mbly some of it will property certain Clause 3 provides that the Governor Council may direct the date by which these lands shall be evacuated by the pres• ent holders, In war-time things move in 413 U.S.A.

Bases Bill LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL.


-Committee 4H th,Lt the Governor therefore, when a start is made.

It shall have power to remove the quickly and, in particular, the Nation which is taking the lease of these lands moves very quickly is necessary, in Council present occupants the work is started.

every care will be taken to fix.

"that date as far abead as is possible.


The people con­ cerned will be given as long notice as pos­ sible in the conditions time from the a1wLs before preV(Liling Naturally, at the however, the Magistrat,e's may then hold a special itself, view the property the amount of compensation the claimant.

Court.

The Magistrnte court on the site and himself fix to be paid to Clause 12 provides the penalty for which is usu,d in all Ordi­ obstruction, nances of this nature.
Clause 13 provides the procedure to be followed cution under this Ordina,nce.

in any prose­ Mr. SEAFORD seconded.

The next clause---4-is the usual one in Bill.

It prohibits an Acquisition ings in the lands a.fter the publication the notice.

That prevent speculation.

provision is intended to all deal­ of Question put, n.nd a.greed to.

Bill read the second time.

Officers elsewhere.


01,Luse 5 emibles his Excellencv the Gov­ Claims Settlem;nt to proceed which is to be t,Lken ernor to appoint -a very common procedure The basic ideiL is that one or more officers shall be appointed to the a,ctual site tLncl there ma,ke the valuation the property in order to speed matter8 up these officers will be given power and the neces8at·y to make payment there and then as soon as the assessment necessity submitted getting Bank with the cheque.
of having vouchers to the Treasury without the prepared a cheque and then going to the of all over, and is accepted funds and in Georgetown, The Council 1·esolved itself to consider into Com­ the Bill mittee and proceeded clause by clause.

Clause 11-Power of Magistrate assess amount of compensation claimant settlement declines officer.
to accept offer of claims to when Mr. JACOB: Comparing this Bill with the Bill that has just been made law-" .An a Dra,inage and Onlin:mce to establish Irrigation Board "-Section 0 rdinance s,iys : If either the Board or the claimant satisfied with the decision under the preceding made by the dissatisfied and subject Summary Jurisdiction regard to civil causes.

to the conditions, (Appeals!


party in the manner, provided an appeal may be by the in Ordinance 30 of that section is dis­ of a magistrnto of corupens,ition Clause 6 is merely the procedure where­ by people lmving clnims shall inform the Claims Settlement Offieer of the nature of their claims.
Clause 7 deals with the assessment and briefly all tlrn t clause says is this : for the purpose of assessing compensation the rehttive visions of Land for Public Purposes shall apply and the Clnims Settlement Ofiicer shall apply the rules set forth in that Ordinanc«e.

in the Acquisition Ordinance pro­ I notice thnt the drnfting of both Billti tho su.nw, but I.here is no in this Bill giving the is practically specif-ic p1·ovi�ion right of appeal from the l\fagistratc's decision.
right of appeal under this Bill, but it is not speuifically I do not know would be fina,l in respect stated as in Draft Bill 196. if the lYiagistrate's I do not know if thern is a of this Bill.

decision of title.
decision of title.

Bttt that opposition Clause 9 dc,ds with the registration of title, and ch.use 10 gi,1es ,t right to any inc um brance to 011 ter opposition to the transfer shall apply to the payment of compensation or; ly ,incl not to the registration Chwse 11 reproduces provision of Land for If ,L cl,Lims Public Purposes Ordinanue.

settlement ,.re unable to come to an agreement as to the amount of compensation, ex,Lctly in tho .Acquisition of title.
,L similar and ,t claimant the claimant officer may go to Tm, ATTORNEY-GENERAL: With regard to the point just miser!

by the hon.

Member, it was not overlooked.

A� it stands ,Lt the moment this Bill when enacted gives no further from the .M,LgistnLte'� not put in, detiigneclly plot,; in the area,s concerned h,tppen quite small and the amount of compensation in respect of each is likely to be very right to appeal That wa� for the reason that the deuision.

to be 415 2nd SupJJle.


Estimate, 1940 18 DECEMBER, 1940.

-Committee 416 that tl1ose should not, squander V cry little damage will be rights and, therefon•, it who get.

,,hat is to by ,Lppealing small indeed.

<lone to personal wa:, thought desirable compensatiou dm• to them in litigation the SuprnntP.

Court.

Your ExcellP11cy youl'sl'lf rnised the point witlt me wh1·n you first sa.w th<' Bill.

ln viPw of Your l<;xcel­ 11.n ,uuen<l­ leucy's rnent to introduce clause if it is thought desi rnblc.
As the matter has be<·n r:1.ised is no harm in in Council putting it in.

That being Lhe c,Lsc, 111ov1: as nn 1tmenrl11wnt in due cou1·s1, Lhat a new ChLusc l:d be ins1·rtc-cl.

i;; bciug asked fo1· as a 1·e­ t ic1· XL V-Posi Of ry--Lhl're n.rc threP items, all fund for the pur­ as a revolving provided chase of timber stocks for Government ·Bui !dings, and ,Lt the close of tlrnt year only $1,600 had bPcn spent.

This )7ear the Rum of $:t0,000 vote.

Under JlC'arl :Ex.trnorrlinn hL•ing n•yotes notes.


A.t tho foot of the page in the last column at the righthand !JO 1..:P.nts hLrgest :unounL is under Head XTII­ - L:mrl:s ,Lnrl .Mines-itl'm 5- " Labour $2,3i0."

It is ancl Rn.Lionin).

{ of L,Lbour," with sun7ep1 1•xpenditut·P carried and is 1·ecove1·ablc-.

r(•coven·tl Clam,e 12- Right of appe:d frorn should read $90.

On p1Lgc 4 the a8 stated iu thP 11w.rginal query I have prepared out for companies decision of magi�Lratc.
in councctiun About $5,000 will be a simila1· tlicrC' T shall in fees.

side tho amount of in the interior Tim ATTORNEY-GENERAL: I beg to move that a new Clau:;e 12 be iuserted iu the Bill to read as follows : 12.If eithC'r the claimant or a claims settle­ with the decision ment officer is dissatisfied a magistrate under the preceding appeal may he made by the dissatisfied in the manner and subject provided by the Summary Jurisdiction (Appeals) of section an party in regard to civil causes.
to the conditions Ordinance QuPstion put, and 1igreed to.

Clauses 1 :J to l � :tR printed were r('numbcred as cbusPR 13 to l:i.

The Council resurul'd.

Ou page 6 the first item under Head Extraordinary- is with the Govern­ vVorks, $975."

The Anglican XL Vl-.1:'ublic Wol'ks "Unspecified Church has deposited ment $600 to be spent in renovating the Uhapel .it Mazaruni.

The whole work is Lo cost $975.

In view of the estiwatetl amount fh•posited only $375 will be pro­ vided by Uovornment.
.Members are very grateful Lhc Bishop for the gift.

It was money collected side Government, it tion lrns been increased seems a ,mi t,ible time to renovate • the Uhapel which had certaiul�· iL fallen into very b1td sLate of rep,Lir.

out­ some yem-s ago from persons and now that the popula­ to His Lordship considernblv I am su1·0 hon.

N ot.ico wn.s givPn that ,Lt the n0xt 01· ,L subsequent meeti11g it would lw moved that t,lw Bill be 1·cad a lhird till\e aud p:tH�l'd.
of the Council ( The L, ttorney-Ge11e?'fil).

ES'l'IMATll, i:foumrn 8UPPL���rnN'l'AR, 1940.

T111:: COLONLAL 8ECHl<:TARY: I beg to movl' the following motion: THAT, this Council approves Provision the Second required of Additional Schedule mC'ct expenditure mude in the Estimates year 1940, which has been laid on the tab1e.

of Expenditure in excess of the provision for the to 'fhern arc not many items in this i::lched­ $07,000.
The priucip,tl ule, which totitls one is on page � m1der "Public 'vVorkH Anuun.ll,· an ikm voLe.

On the Third Supplementat·y w,ite� fol' Hl39 the sum of $:30,000 "-Hc1td XXXVI­ This is really a re­ for $�0,UU0.

Esti­ was Hccurreut 0 'l'hcrC' i:; also an item for $60:i un<ler tlw tender anrl l>rninage.

'\\'hen some time in 1939 the and were ba,;cd on pre-war prices, lrrigatiou Wfts prepitred figures Goyern111ent should h<· gi-antecl creased p1·iccs.
to pay for n litLIC' b�· the Contractor at Government';.

re quest.

ij;514-in view of tlw in­ The balance is required l'Xtra, that the Contrn.ctor work c1L1Tierl consiclers out Mr. D1A8 seconded.

The Council resolved it8elf rnit.tee aud consiclerecl Llw Schedule of AdditiomLI .Provision without into Com­ discussion.

The Council resun1.cd.


Tm, COLONIAL SECRETARY: \Yith the pel'mission amend the originnl of the Council I beg to motion by the substitu- 417 Estimates, 1941 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL, -Editoation 418 in Commit­ tion of the words "as paRsecl tee " for the words " which hati been laid on the table."

Director matter.

Tm; CHAIRMAN: Perhaps the hon.

may explain the of Education Question put, and agreed to.

ES'rIMATES, 1941.

The Council resolved mittee and resumed Estinmtes from revenue DeccmbPr, the table.
of Expenditll dul'ing 19.J.l, itself into Com­ c:onsiderntion l 'e to he defrayed enrling the ye,Ll' of the 31st which lmve be€n laid on Tirn COLONIAL SECRETARY: J ask VIITA-Educa­ leave to recommit He.vl tion-on page l J. Tm, CHAIRYIAN: It was understood ro�e that several when the Committee Heads were to be rncouJ1.nitted for con­ sideration.

'\'Ve are now dualing those Heads.

with EDUCATION-SCHOOLS, lNS'l'l'l'U'l'IONS AND Item 11-Grants, lVIISCELLANEOUS.

$54,743.
$54,743.

:Mr. CREASE (Director of Education) : foe by tl1e new Code.

I is one which mav be due to the additi�nal of the new and it is VHr_v much .regretted thu.t it the pi:ogl'amme and ask as possibly provid1-•d in the studying amount of $8,708 to be to come to this Council I very much regret it has been found necessary for an ncklitiom1I 11.

It is nn omission moved in under item for 1941 Estimates that was made in tliP.
due to it being overlooked among the many incrPases think tho omission l'egarded work involved CoLle, wns only discovered \\'hen fo,· 19.J.l .Maintenance Grants w,ts being n•visecl Bodi1•s.

Governing wu·ious the inc1·mises tenance importm1t tions.

The 1najority a vm·y b,Ld state moderu furniture.


Council order to i1wrease grnut for mainteuanee for issue to the I may adrl that fo1· t,he;;e t,1·0 grnnts-lYlain­ the two most and Equipwent-al'8 of the schools of cliHepair I :,incerely are in and lack hope this will a.pprnve of this "move-in " in under tlie 11ew Code Regula­ the very swall annual ,md er1uipme11t.
and Equipment increaticd of increase In the foot-note u;;fortunatelv It Y I Tm: COLONIAL SECRET A pbced on the for Gmnts to Aided Schools­ and .iVfointellance grnnts rLs a in average attendance, provision bv the new Uode w,ts made, one to by $8,708 and car­ in the of the draft estima,tes the lost sight of the fact that a. move that the tLlnount Estimates $27,840-be ried out at $36,548.

preparation Department new Code had come into force and, in some of the items a.I.though affected item wa.s �verlookcd.
item 11 hon.

Members "·ill see " Increase in Stationery result $860."

That is the i tern affected.

amount has tn be inserted additional in connection provide is about with these grnnt:s. The 40 to 50 pet' cent.

higher than under the old Cotle.


'l'he foot-uote to read ;unended Maintenance result provided ,:;rease of $860 the amount of $9,568 should be , and the total ,it the foot of the inserted of $6,9:l 9. page made $15,637 instearl passed I shall then After this item is of the amended total inform the Council of that Head.
fur the new sctile increase provision the new Code and in­ : " Increase and Equipment of increased for undel' in Btntioncry, grants a:s the to the grnnts in average The to in�tead should be rittemlance," a.ml acri­ expen­ bevtLuse that Government th,Lt when tl1is l:fead say it is very this Council will Mr. 8EAFOH.D: I think it is most had to come ,tsk fur the l'e­ ,Llld of this vote and for su,:;h a hLrge on the ,Ll renrly increased unfortunate to th i:; Counci I to-chiy con.1.rnittal increase diturn under this Head, I unfortunate came up in rewewL,·r, the Counci I thcne was a somewhat and l feel sure tluit lmd moniouk ch•hate, an_v idP,1 hon.
1fou1he1·s to be r,•,:;on there \\'OUld than thel'e tunate] foul' Eledil'8s see.

I feel that hnrl some of these Y[em­ bers here present-and C goi11g to be called known that they \\"f'l' the vote by another upon to inerC'asfl $K,000 they would have tried to persuade t to "0 rather UJ0re earefull Governlll011 into these figu ,:�8.

iiuitted or to come up again have b1-•en a fuller attendance is at the present v there a.re no Ill Ore than three or as far as I can that it "·,Ls likely time.
Unfor­ present, v ' I, personally, had stretched vel'y fat· in agreeing to the $50,000 my con­ science increase, $60,000 tha.n $!

'.i0,000 tlLinly asked Government-and antl had 1 kn0\\'11 I would have cer­ it was nearer· I am going l iuclucle myself­ 419 Estimates, 1941 18 DECE�IDER, 194-0.

-Ecliication 420 to do so now-if it cannot reconsider· this vote ,1nd try to comb it out in order to sec if a saving cannot be effected not only under this item 1.

)Ut others.
)Ut others.

I am not to say which item is more in a position important, but I do feel it might be possi­ ble to make a certain under the various items so as not to increase the total vot,e under this Heacl.

amount of reduction able to effect certn.in sub-head.

savings under that With regard to the request of the hon.
River (Mr. Lee) special consideration, Member for Essequebo in his constituency should that the schools I am afraid receive that I cannot promise this as the grants for maintenance 011 a definite ,werage attendance of each school.

n,re paid e with the scale in accordanc and equipment present I feel that under conditions, we can, there is a limit to expenditure beyond which I think it our f,stimate.
is going to bring forth and it is to foresee when we arc trying to :mve everything possibly and to increa�e� i� ,1lmost immoral to go.

As you have said morE' than once, sir, we do not know what to-morrow impossible 1n view of that I feel we should mn.ke a limit, ,tnd I also feel that tha,t limit w,1s reached when we agreed to the $50,000.

I therefore do appen,l the 1m1t­ ter and see if it is not possible to go through this vote a,11(1 item and other items uuder this Head.
1 regret I cannot support the addition, and if it is put to the vote I would have to vote this extra increase.

against to Government to consider comb it out---this should bA in the original Mr. AUSTIN: We ,LU regret that at this particubir time t liis amount moved in, but I feel tlrnt n very genuine mistake has been made and hnd this amount been included it would have been passed.
This estimate with the new Code is a vote in connection most of us think that the and although Education this year is higher than this Colony can afford, we hope in later yearn it will be kept down to a propel' ayer,1ge w that we will not education pay more for than we can ,1rl'orcL possibly In this instfLnCe that if thi;; vote had come up considm· when we first considered it would lnwe been pttssed.

I will therefore vote for it.

Vote particuhu-ly the estimate I really attending tho schools when lVIr.
LEE: I sincerely hopP th:Lt out of this maintenance vote provi8ion will be in my constituency.

made for the schools The children, the rain falls, have to l'Un for shelter into the Churches.

Elected Members know how fl.re crowded together at school they would cei·tainly with tho l'equest Education tenance.

of the hon.

Director vote for mfLin­ in order to be taught for an increased I feel sure that if hon.

not interfere the children of Mr. CREASE : Wit,h regard to the he 11sked by the hon.
Member for George­ remal'ks town North (Mr, S1·,1ford), Government whether it is possible to reduce perhaps one or more of the other items in order to meet this increase under item 11.

It is difficult fLt this time to give him fl.ny assurance that cn.n be c·an·ied out.
There is n. possibility of savings effecting particularly Te,vihers, Additiona.l increase of expenditure increase has to be approved by the is nor­ of State, Secretary mallv received the beginning under certain in respect of item 10 (3)­ of the year.

We should be $8,400.


Before any takes place that his request £our or five months after and that approval sub-heads T_m; CHAIRMAN: I quite agree that and as far as before are thinly th,1t it is necessary to move a motion of this kind, It would have been very nrnch It is very unfortunate, it is highly unfortumite n.t this stn.ge Of course it is a sheer accident that it is being clone when the Electives represented.

I propose to ta,ke steps to see that error,; of this kind do not occur fl.gain possible.
better if we hfLd the whole picture Govern­ discussion.

uR at tho originn.l ment does feel, however, that it is difficult and reduce concessions to go back now that have been ,ilready agreed to by the Council.

th,1t the schools suffer hy an accounting of the Dep,1rtment.

neceRsitv tive but to bring the vote forward.

I agree hon.

Nominated with the just spoken that it is probable had come before the Council instanee therefoi·e will be made to to suffer.
Everv endeavour effect n. saving on the vote as a whole as I would like to avoid any far a� possible.

but on the other hand I feel should not be allowed error on the part Member who has tlmt if it in the earlier it would have been passed and should not be made for it I feel there is no alterna­ Much as I regret the the schools to 421 Estimates, 1941 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL.

-Pooi· 422 or non­ of Education in respect of what the has said.

'That misunderstanding hon.


Director does not depend on the approval of State.

If his of the Secretary approval from any part of the is withheld approval would cause a saving so naturally vote thn,t.

to speak, but we are in no way relying will be that.

The possibility quite apart from anything the explored of Secretary course that the schools do not suffer as the result on of a saving of State may say, provided of the saving.

Question put, and agreed to.


'l'HE COLONIAL SECRETARY: 'fhe total vote under " Education I ask permission :j:62::S,041.

Head XIX-" Medical-Hospital Dispensaries", " now reads to recommit page 38, sub-head and 27.

MEDICAL-HOSPITALS AND DISPENSA.ll.IES.

of Discharged Item 27-Maintenance of Leprosy HospiLal, Inmates $2,900.

THE COLONIAL SECRETARY: It has inmates allowances in the past to give to discharged as thoHe given to of the Poor are item been customary similar of the Leprosy Hospital the Poor.
As the doles increased slightly be increased charged inmates m:ty be benefited similar bv $7 50, so that these dis­ manner, and carried I move that this in a out at $3,650.

Question put, and agreed to.

Tm; COLONIAL SECRETARY: The total of the Head now reads $537,133.

MtscELLANEOus-(b) OTHER 'l'IIAN SunvEN'l'IONS, JYIUNICIPAL.

E'l'C., Tm, COLONIAL SECRE'.l.

'ARY : I ask leave to recommit Subventions, h1neous-(b) lVluniciFal," page 49.
etc., other than He,1d XXIV-Miscel­ Item 4-Grant to Infant Welfare and Maternity League, $:J,680.

for general purposes, THE COLO�IAL SECRETARY: I move that the item " For General Pur­ pose!

'S " wltich now reads $2,680 be in­ creased Lr $500.

It has been recommen­ ded since the Estimates that �1 larger quantity distribution at the League Clinics of milk for free were prepared should be authorised.

tional $500 is asked for.

For thiB purpose an addi­ Question put, and agreed to.
Tm, COLONIAL SECRETARY: The total of the Head should now read $131,887.

POOR.

Item 17-Grant to Plaisance Orphanage for Boys, $500.

inserted 16 and 17 on page 5g_ and a new sub-head Tm,; COLONIAL SECRETARY: I Poor "-be move that Head XXVIII-;, 1·ecommitted between sub-head� 'l'he item to be inserted " Grant to Plaisance $500."

·when the Estimates considered to consider undertook be made to this institution, decided towards tribution institution.
to ask for a sum of $-500 as a con­ the maintenance whether a grant can Orphanage and it has been of this should read: were being for Bo:,,s, in Committee Government '.l.

'1rn CHAIR.MAN: The amount of $1,000 was suggested as being out of scale with other grants of a similar in the scale of those now nmde.

kind.

This grnnt is more or less but it was regarded MJ".
KING: As one of those interested its financial particularly for its it, of the Orphanage Government publicly I can assure you that We are fiuding of a similar to finance it fills a want which is in this Colony since the at the top of in the Orphanage side, I would like to take this opportunity 0£ thanking in this matter.

generosity as no doubt other institutions kind, more and more difficult a work of charity of this nature.
There are over 60 boys in the institution now, and undoubtedly very much felt abolition Brickdam.

,trt' being taken care of, educated, and, comparntively They are certainly I invite any hon.

Member of this Council who is so inclined at any time and see the extraordinarily good work done there i:>y the Nuns in charge.

It was suggested with the view of ment may be approitehed giving us a grnnt, which I hope will be an annual one.
vYith that idea the Electives feeling their unanimous the support support but as happened of Governmententirely.

speaking, exceedingly happy, the boys well fed well clothed.

sure that I would not only get and asked for their support, to visit the Orphanage I circulated that Govern­ and , 1941 423 Estimates 1s DECEMBER, 19m.

-Pnblic Works 424 I had hoped, perhaps in my optimism, will be granted so as further for carrying to feel sugges­ I hope that conditions to do so, perhaps, than at p,:esent.
the amount originally my thanks are any the that the amount would have exceeded amount placed on the Estimates, but I do not want in any way this Council that because ted c:tnnot less sincere.

improve in the Colony and that this grnnt will be increased those responsible Orphanage generously this nature, generous there, it is controlled finance at our disposal, however, not get sufficient suggest Christmas not get perhaps some of the luxuries that enjoy in this those more happily placed world.
I do know that the boys are well taken care of, and that this money will be most gratefully and every cent of it spent solely of the boys in the Orphanage.

to encourage on this a little more of In charity to be while one would like in the way of food to the boys in by the amount of I do not suggest, for one minute that the boys do food, but I presume and that there are occasions, sut;h as when the boys do accepted and entirely and Easter, Question put, and agreed to.
and house-lot to bridges work but it is the most important include repairs drains, to begin with.

I move that the item be inserted ment will retur{1 further next vear to ask for a amount.

in next vear's Estimates.

Govern­ had said had ecl and was in order, although Mr. LEE: 1 would like to add my quota that to t,his debate n,nd to tell Government it has been bl'Ought to my attention that the pump whid1 the Engineer been repaii- it is working it is not discharging water (lfiughter).
enquire into the engine works but the pump is not dis­ charging on three occasions but- the water.

The Engineer the matter you will find that Your Excellency, to rectify tried the defect if you THE CHAIRMAN : Did the hon.

Mem­ ber speak to the Engineer ?

Mr. LEE: I did not.

for the benefit Tm, CHAIRMAN: It is very difficult for minor points dealt with iu Council like this.

be very much better to go Rtn:iig source of the trouble.
to be like pump repairs It would ht to the Sub heads 17 to 22 were renumbered as sub-heads 18 to 23. l\fr.

LEE : 1fay l point out that it was brought to the Engineer's attention.

PUBLIC WonKs-ExTRAORDINARL THE CHAIRMAN : The hon.

Member should verify his information.

Item 30-Reconditioning Government Estates, W.C.D.

Mr. LEE: My information source.


from n, reliable has come THE COLONIAL SECRETARY: I move that Head XLV-" Public Works-­ "- be recommitted Extraorclirmry and at he page 86 the following inserted Govern­ : " 30-Reconditioning ment Estates, $16,630."

·west Coast, Demerara­ new sub-head thnt the Tm: CHAIR;V.IAN : I suggest hon.

Member verify his information bv obRervation.

person:tl that the engine can work and the pump t;annot work:.

with questions Council.


It is very difficult to deal in this of mechanical repairs It is quite possibl� It has been reported to Government that the drainage of the and irrigation three Government Estates are in a very indeed, and while the bad condition amount neces.,ary will be far more than to be that-the total amount eventually spent on them being nearer $5:l,000- Government feels that a beginning be made next year at 'Windsor This is the estin�ate tial work there next year.
It does not mean, however, that this is the whole of the work to be done there as it does not for doing some essen­ should Forest.

for His Mr. JACOB: I am grateful on the ma,tter.

I statement Excellency's do hope that officers would appl'eciate being spoken to on these matters.

understood improvement.

rather tluin object to If that is be a great deal of there would concerned with works TEE CHAIRMAN: It all depencls on how it is done.

(Laughter) Mr. JACOB: That is so.


425 Estimates, 1941 LEGISLATIVE CouNCH,, -Public Works 426 TnE CHAIRMAN: I am sure the hon.

THE COL01'1IAL SECRETARY: I Member's experience has taught him that.

move that the motion:- mav not know how to Mr. JACOB: I agree, but it is very at times.

The people on the spot these officers: I am not speak­ I am saying that difficult who are concerned approach ing on mere conjecturn.
if there is better understanding those actually concerned the people around them and if they would listen to those people there would be a gn:,at <lea.I uf improvement.

with works and between THAT, this Council approves of Expenditure during the year ending 31st December, 1941, which have been laid on the table to be defrayed the Estimates from revenue ion of the be amended by the substitut words "as amended in Committee " for the words "which have been laid on the table."

Mr. DIAS seconded.
Mr. DIAS seconded.

Question put, and agreed to.

to Bills to discuss in this Council.

Tm, PRESIDEN'l': of this kind being brought out, to him.

I have no objection either by letter I only want to of Government interview.

There is certain before the Council-three Bill, the Ta.x (No.
3) Bill, and the Miscel­ (Amendment) TnB CHAIRMAN : I cannot believe that if the engine at this stage is working the through and the water is not passing pump any engineer concerned with it would shut his tiyes to the fact if it is pointed to matters the notice or personal point out that minor mechanical repairs are very difficult I am very sorry it has been necessary to move in such large amounts at this stage.

The fact is that the estimate was not age and irrigation amount a considerable ready.
It required of investigation, very much having to move in such large sums at this stage it was felt that we cannot fairly postpone this portion for another business which have been read for the first time Hon.

Members saw what this morning.

they we�·e-the Town New Amsterdam Council (Amendment) (Amendment) laneous Licences Bills which should be passed before the end of the vear.

There is one other Bill and, I think, nun-c;on­ of a.n unimp;rtant which may be brought character troversial forw;.1,rd.
If hon.

Members are prepiLrecl go forward this week, arrangement sit on Friday and get through ness.

It would then not be necessary sit again before the encl of the year.

That would mean of course suspending the Standing proceeded would be necessary after Christmas Tuesday.

I think the most would be for the Council that busi­ Orders to allow these Bills to be it to with these Bills on Friday of otherwise to sit on the Friday Question put, and agreed to.
with making a beginning or the Christmas with on Frida.y, of these estates and although for the drnin­ COll\7enicnt I regret year.

Bill-all Eve to to amendments.

The to dis­ :Mr. JACOB : Is it not possible pose of all the business to-day?

expenditure Tm, COLONIAL SECRETARY: The total vote under this Head should now read Hon.

Members would no doubt $530,935.


like to have the final figures, and could turn to the front page of the Estimates and make the necessary total estimated $7,101,334 Council's $92,219 estimated $7,193,553.

1941 has been increased therefore estimated deficit, a.mended to read $219,278.

the should now read revenue for and by $300,000 The read $6,974,275.

should be for 1941.
should be for 1941.

As the result deliberations has been added a.nd therefore The estimated in Committee expenditure is of the should now therefore, as printed not.

'I'm: PRESIDENT: I am afraid, Printing has to be done.

Mr. SEAFORD: I suggest will be the most convenient day to us.

that Friday Trrn PRESIDENT : I think hon.

Members will prefer that.

The Council will therefore adjourn until Friday.

The Council resumed, The Council 20th December, at adjourned 10.30 a.m. until Friday, the