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THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT FRIDAY 25 MARCH 2022 MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 205 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon.

Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP.

DEPUTY SPEAKER Hon.

P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP.

(Tonota) Clerk of the National Assembly Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly Acting Learned Parliamentary Counsel Assistant Clerk (E) His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP.

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP.


(Boteti West) CABINET - President - Vice President - Ms B. N. Dithapo - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe - Advocate L. O. Tlhowe - Mr R. Josiah Hon.

K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP.

(Molepolole South) - Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

K. T. Mmusi, MP.

(Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon.

Dr L. Kwape, MP.

(Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon.

K. K. Autlwetse, MP.


(Specially Elected) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon.

K. S. Gare, MP.

(Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

P. K. Kereng, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism Hon.

Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP.

(Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon.

T.M.

Segokgo, MP.

(Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon.

K. Mzwinila, MP.
K. Mzwinila, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Hon.

T. M. Rakgare, MP.

(Mogoditshane) - Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development Hon.

A. M. Mokgethi, MP.

(Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon.

P. O. Serame, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon.

F. M. M. Molao, MP.

(Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Hon.

Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP.


(Tati East) Hon.

L. M. Moagi, MP.

(Ramotswa) - Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology - Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Security Hon.

M. Kgafela, MP.

(Mochudi West) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

M. R. Shamukuni, MP.

(Chobe) - Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Development Hon.

E. M. Molale, MP.

(Goodhope-Mabule) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Hon.
D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP.

(Gaborone South) - Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration Hon.

S. N. Modukanele, MP.

(Lerala -Maunatlala) Hon.

T. Monnakgotla, MP.

(Kgalagadi North) Hon.

M. M. Pule, MP.

(Mochudi East) Hon.

M. S. Molebatsi, MP.


(Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development - Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Security Hon.

S. Lelatisitswe, MP.

(Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon.

N. W. T. Makwinja, MP.

(Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon.

B. Manake, MP.
B. Manake, MP.

(Specially Elected) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Hon.

H. B. Billy, MP.

(Francistown East) Hon.

A. Lesaso, MP.

(Shoshong) - Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency Hon.

L. Kablay, MP.

(Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon.

Dr U. Dow, MP.

Hon.


P. Majaga, MP.

Hon.

M. Balopi, MP.

Hon.

J. S. Brooks, MP.

Hon.

C. Greeff, MP.

Hon.

T. Letsholo, MP.

Hon.

T. F. Leuwe, MP.

Hon.

T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP.

Hon.

Dr T. Matsheka, MP.

Hon.

S. N. Moabi, MP.

Hon.

P. K. Motaosane, MP.

Hon.

O. Regoeng, MP.

Hon.

J. L. Thiite, MP.


Specially Elected Nata-Gweta Gaborone North Kgalagadi South Gaborone Bonnington South Kanye North Takatokwane Gaborone Central Lobatse Tati West Thamaga-Kumakwane Molepolole North Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon.

D. Saleshando, MP.

(Leader of the Opposition) Hon.

M. G. J. Motsamai, MP.


(Opposition Whip) Maun West Ghanzi South Selebi Phikwe West Mahalapye East Sefhare-Ramokgonami Ngami Okavango Maun East Bobonong Selebi Phikwe East Palapye Nkange Mahalapye West Francistown West Hon.

D. L. Keorapetse, MP.

Hon.

Y. Boko, MP.

Hon.

Dr K. Gobotswang, MP.

Hon.

C. K. Hikuama, MP.

Hon.

K. K. Kapinga, MP Hon.

G. Kekgonegile, MP.

Hon.

T. B. Lucas, MP.

Hon.

K. Nkawana, MP.

Hon.

O. Ramogapi, MP.

Hon.

Dr N. Tshabang, MP.

Hon.

D. Tshere, MP.

Hon.


M. I. Moswaane, MP.

Hon.

T. S. Khama, MP.

Hon.

L. Lesedi, MP.

Hon.

B. Mathoothe, MP.

Hon.

M. Reatile, MP.

(Botswana Patriotic Front) Serowe West Serowe South Serowe North Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon.

W. B. Mmolotsi, MP.
Francistown South (Alliance for Progressives) TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE THIRD SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT FRIDAY 25TH MARCH, 2022 CONTENTS PAGE (S) MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME .......................................................................................................................1-7 QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE......................................................................................................................8-12 STATEMENTS Update on COVID-19 Pandemic...........................................................................................................................13-21 The Ongoing 2022 Population and Housing Census............................................................................................22-30 MOTION FOR THE ADJOURNMENT-DEFINITE MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE Government Procurement or Tenders Funded by 2022/2023 Budget Motion (Resumed Debate)....................................................................................................................................31 Government to Introduce a Mandatory Corporate Social Responsibility Law (CSR) Motion (Resumed Debate)..............................................................................................................................32-36 TABLING OF PAPERS Legal Aid Botswana Annual Report, 2020/2021........................................................................................................13 National ICT Policy Review and E-Commerce Strategy for
 Botswana.....................................................................13 Botswana Bureau of Standards Annual Report, 2020/2021......................................................................................13 Companies and Intellectual Property Authority Annual Report, 2020/2021.............................................................13 Friday 25th March, 2022 THE ASSEMBLY met at 9:00 a.m. (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) P R A Y E R S * * * * MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS THEME: COVID-19 RELIEF FUND Asked the Minister of Health and Wellness to apprise this Honourable House on the following: (i) how much was spent in procuring vaccines from the COVID-19 Relief Fund; (ii) how much was budgeted for upgrading and capacitation of the public health care sector; (iii) how much has Government spent so far in the fight against COVID-19, including money spent on Personal Protective Equipment (PPEs), direct awards of tenders for other medical supplies and vaccines; (iv) how much is held in the COVID-19 Relief Fund (balance); and (v) when did Botswana first place its orders for vaccines including from the COVAX facility.
MR D. TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): Thank you very much Honourable Speaker and good morning to you Honourable Members.

Potso e Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, e bua ka COVID-19 Relief Fund.

Ga e bue ka madi a re tlholang re a fa Ministry of Health le supplementary budget tse di ntseng di fetisiwa ke Palamente, tseo re tlaa di botsa go sele, tse di neng di lwantsha bolwetse jwa COVID-19.

Potso e e itebagantse fela le COVID-19 Relief Funds.
Fa re gakologelwa, Relief Fund e, Goromente o ne a e tlhama a bo a boa a ntsha P2 billion mo go yone gore Batswana ba kokotleletse fa godimo ga yone.

Tona a ka tlhalosa gompieno gore Batswana ba ne ba ntshitse madi a selekanyo sa bokae mo COVID-19 Relief Fund?

Mo go one madi a, ke bokae a a dirisitsweng go reka melemo e re e dirisang (vaccines)?

Ke bokae a a dirsitsweng to capacitate public health care?
Fa re tsamayang teng, ke bokae a a ka bong a dirisitswe mo go rekeng Personal Protective Equipment (PPEs), medical equipment and other supplies including vaccines on direct appointment and others?

A bo a tlhalosetsa Palamente gore mo COVID-19 Relief Fund, balance ya teng ke bokae letsatsi leno jaana?

A bo araba potso e e sa bolong go nna e botswa ya gore tota mme gone, the first order ya Botswana ya vaccines including from COVAX e ne e le leng?
Jaaka ke tlhalosa Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, potso e, e bua ka COVID-19 Relief Fund not Ministry of Health and Wellness budget.

I hope Honourable Minister o itshwaragantse le mokaulengwe wa gagwe Honourable Morwaeng fa ba araba potso e. Ba tlhalosetse Batswana ba ba neng ba ntshitse madi a, le ba ba neng ba ntshitse ka pelo gore a a dirisitswe sentle, e bile mo go lolameng?

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you so much Mr Speaker.
The question was directed twice to different ministries, e bo e felela gotwe e tle kwa go rona.

Mr Speaker, the COVID-19 Pandemic Relief Fund, like mong wa potso a boditse, was established in 2020 under the Public Finance Management Act.

The purpose of the fund was to support Government’s efforts in responding to socioeconomic impact of COVID-19 pandemic through provision of relief funding for control, prevention and treatment of the disease.
Structurally Mr Speaker, jaaka mmotsi wa potso a boditse, the fund is administered by the Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Finance and Economic Development while the Finance Minister shall be responsible for the management of funds through the appointed Management Committee e e teng on this Fund Order Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, on the 14th March, a total of P3, 439, 772, 225.16 was received in the fund through the following contributions: • Government’s capital 2 billion.
• Payroll contribution was P10, 813, 903.09.

• Donations from batho ba ba ikemetseng le dikompone was P 128, 958, 332.07.

• Industry support facility P1.3 billion.

(i) Mr Speaker, an amount of P46, 430, 868.00 was paid from the COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus) Relief Fund by the Ministry of Finance and 1 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME Economic Development, as a 30 per cent upfront payment for the purchase of Moderna vaccine on the 17th May, 2021.
The other 30 per cent was paid directly by the Ministry of Health and Wellness under the COVID-19 Relief Recurrent Budget Vote.

The remaining 40 per cent of the cost was paid by Debswana.

(ii) Mr Speaker, the total amount spent on COVID-19 by the Ministry of Health and Wellness between February 2020 and March 23, 2022 is P1, 742, 318, 959.00.

These funds were used to strengthen the health care delivery system.
(iii) Mr Speaker, the Ministry of Finance and Economic Development has disbursed a total of P2, 953, 689, 112.00 from the COVID-19 Relief Fund towards the fight against COVID-19 pandemic.

The actual expenditure against this disbursement by different ministries will be confirmed once reconciliations and financial reports are submitted and analysed.

Tsone tse e leng gore motlotlegi o a di batla thata.

(iv) Mr Speaker, the current balance of the COVID-19 Relief Fund is P486, 083, 113.00.
Of this amount, P462 000 000 is the remaining budgetfor Industry Support Facility while Twenty-Four Million and Eighty-Three Thousand, One Hundred and Thirteen Pula (P24, 083, 113) is the general balance of the fund.

(v) The COVAX Facility was launched in April 2020 and it was the first facility that became available for us to get the vaccine through.

Botswana joined this facility in October 2020 and immediately made an upfront payment as a way of placing an order for vaccines.

I thank you Mr Speaker.


MR TSHERE: Thank you very much Honourable Speaker and thank you Honourable Minister, even though ke gakgamalela gore ga o a fetsa ka go leboga Batswana ka madi a a kanakana.

Potso ya me ke gore, ke utlwa o re go na le balance ya P486 million mme o bua gore about P462 million o isiwa kwa Industry Support Fund, can you expand the Industry Support Fund o raya eng e bile madi a teng a ya kwa go bo mang?

Ke bo ke botsa gore a mme jaanong fund e e eme ga e sa tlhole e dirisiwa jaanong?
A e tswetswe ka mantswe a mangwe jaaka o kare madi a a fela mo go yone kana ke sengwe se e leng gore le batla go se tsweledisa?

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo.

MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker.

Sa ntlha ke supe gore re leboga Batswana for that contribution ya bone ya over P128 million.

The Industry Support Fund is directly under Ministry of Finance.

So, it would be quite difficult for me here to answer questions in relation to it gore go tsamaya fa kae.
Jaaka ke ne ke bua, this question was redirected twice and ke tsaya gore a third question e ka ya fela kwa go bone.

They will explain more ka madi ao.

The balance is still available under this fund Mr Speaker.

Ke a leboga.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Honourable Minister, e rile kgang e ya COVID le go reka vaccines e ile magoletsa, Tautona wa lefatshe le a bua gore COVAX e tsieditse lefatshe la Botswana, e re jele ntsoma ka tsela nngwe.
Ke batla go itse gore le le ministry, kgang e la reng ka yone?

A le santse le bua kgang e gore go ntse jalo?

Ya bobedi ke gore fa go simololwa go rekwa (order), COVAX e ne e ntshitse a proportion e lefatshe lengwe le lengwe le tshwanetseng go reka vaccines, 10 kana 5 per cent.
Ke batla o confirm gore Botswana yone e ne e filwe proportion ya bokae gore e reke vaccines di le kae in relation to the population of Botswana le gore a le ne la kgona go reka vaccines tsotlhe tse le neng le tshwanetse go di reka ka nako eo Honourable Minister?

MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker.

Ke tsaya gore mo karabong ke supile gore the COVAX Facility ke yone e e leng gore re bone vaccines ka bontsi di tswa mo go yone.
Fela jaaka re ne re bua, kana golo mo e ne e le mokolokotwane, go ne go tshelwa madi mo teng.

As and when vaccines are available, re ne re nna re di kgaogana le mafatshe a mangwe.

Ba ne ba na le a formula that they were using bone koo, regardless of madi a o a tsentseng.

Ke gore ka fa di neng di dirwa ka teng Mr Speaker, go ne go sa re ka gore wena o tsentse bokana, you get this.

Go ne go lebelelwa gore go leka to distribute vaccines mo lefatsheng a go tsamaya ka formula e ba neng ba e dirile ka koo.
Seo le rona re ne re se kgotsofalela ka gore formula e ne e dumalanwe ke boTautona kana botlhe fela ba ba neng ba na le seabe to this COVAX Facility.

Ke dumela gore se re neng re se tlhoka re ne ra se bona le kwa bofelong re ntse re amogela vaccines through the COVAX Facility.

Karabo ya ntlha ke gore ke dumela gore gompieno ga e ka ke ya re thusa mo go kalo ka gore se re leng fa ka sone ke gore vaccines di gorogile mo lefatsheng la rona ka ditsela tse di farologanyeng le ka donations tota.
2 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gatwe re tsieditswe, a ke nnete re tsieditswe?

MR SPEAKER (MR MOATLHODI): A ko o iketle!

MR LELATISITSWE: Ga ke itse gore go araba gore a re tsieditswe kana ga re a tsiediwa go ka re thusa go le kae gompieno mme ke dumela gore gongwe ga le a utlwa mmui wa puo sentle.

MR MAJAGA: Good morning Mr Speaker and Honourable Members.
Just a quick one, as well as re leboga the Botswana Government, Batswana le ba ministry ka tiro e ba e dirileng as per COVID, ke botse Tona gore madi a otlhe a re itseng gore bontsi a ne a le from the Botswana Government, mo nakong ya gompieno, are they happy as a ministry gore ba a dirisitse sentle le fa bangwe ba ka nna le pelaelo ya gore go tlaa nna le balancing?

As for now, are they happy as a ministry gore ba a dirisitse sentle e bile ba kgonne to secure all the vaccines?

Thank you Mr Speaker.


MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, the aim of the Government of the day e ne e le go fokotsa bokete jwa bolwetse mo lefatsheng la rona ka go itshireletsa ka go tsaya vaccines.

Ke yone the bigger picture e re neng re e lebeletse e ke dumelang gore as Government, we have achieved it.

Gompieno fa o ka lebelela gore bolwetse bo kwa tlase jang, ke dumela gore we have achieved that and I am happy about that.
Fela gore madi a dirisitswe jang, ke dumela gore Auditor General ke yone e e leng gore gongwe e tlaare kwa bofelong e re neele reports go supa gore madi a dirisitswe jang.

Fela in the bigger picture, we have achieved our goal as Government and ministry.

Ke a leboga.

MR MATHOOTHE: Thank you Mr Speaker, good morning.

Ke ne ke re ke botse Tona gore a madi a Batswana ba neng ba a ntsha, a a under special fund?

A a na le fund order and what was the process to disburse this money fa go setse go rekwa?
Thank you.

MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, ke buile mo karabong gore go ne go na le a committee which is sitting under Ministry of Finance which was managing this fund order.

It was overseeing the administration the fund, advising the Accounting Officer on matters related and determining the disbursement of procedures of the fund in accordance with the Act.

Ke dumela gore this committee ke yone e neng lebelela dilo tse pele ga e golola madi.
Jaaka maphata a le mantsi a ne a batla madi go dira tse ba bonang di tsamaelana le COVID, the procedure was they submit their request to this committee e e tsayang ditshwetso kwa bofelong gore e ntsha madi go a isa koo go bona gore se se tlhokafalang se a thibiwa rraetsho.

Ke a leboga.
MINISTER OF NATIONALITY, IMMIGRATION AND GENDER AFFAIRS THEME: SET STANDARD (TIME) FOR PROCESSING OF CITIZENSHIP APPLICATIONS Asked the Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs, to state: (i) the set standard (time) for processing of citizenship applications; (ii) if she is aware that some people have been waiting for their citizenship applications to be processed for more than 10-15 years; (iii) the number of applicants that are currently waiting for their citizenship applications to be processed; (iv) the set standard for processing of renouncement applications; (v) if she is aware that there are some Batswana who are stateless at the moment because the ministry is dragging its feet to finalize their applications; (vi) if she is aware that for some it has been five years or more of waiting; (vii) the number of Batswana who lost their jobs from Botswana Police Service, Botswana Prisons Services, Botswana Defence Force and other Government institutions and departments because of renouncement issues; and (viii) the number of Batswana who lost Government through Department of Tertiary sponsorship Education Fund because of renouncement issues.
MR M. I. MOSWAANE (FRANCISTOWN WEST): Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re golo fa go dirisiwa tswanglish.

Dipotso tse di botlhokwa jaana batho ba kopakopanya Sekgoa le Setswana… MR SPEAKER: Please, ask your question Honourable Moswaane!

MR MOSWAANE: Ke ne ke re ke tlhalosetse ruri, ke a botsa ka gore re latlhegelwa ke dikarabo mo Batswaneng.

Potso ke yone eo Honourable Speaker, thank you very much.
3 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME Ke re Tona a ko a tlhalose ditsamaiso tsa bone tse di tsepameng malebang le dikopo tsa batho ba ba ikopelang boagedi mo lefatsheng leno.

Go a lemotshega mo nakong e ntsi re bona Batswana ba kaila kana batho ba ba batlang thuso ba kailakaila ba sena tsholofelo.

Ke gore dikarabo tsa teng gore o di bone tse dingwe o tlaa tshwanelwa ke gore o ye go phekolwa kwa dikerekeng le dingaka tsa Setswana.
Ke gore o bona gore tota tsela ga e bonale, o batla dithuso kwa le kwa.

Puso e le teng e e tshwanetseng gore e ka bo e tlhomamisitse tsamaiso e gantsi ka Sekgoa ba e tleng ba re go nne le service standard, gore mo lebakeng le le kana re bo re kgonne go araba moikopedi mo nakong e ntsi.

Ke botse Tona gore, a mme Tona o a lemoga gore bangwe Batswana ba mo lehauhaung, ga ba itlhomamise gore a ke Batswana kana ke ba lefatshe lefe?

Mo go a teng gotwe they are stateless.


Ke re o a lemoga gore the Former Minister Dorcas Makgato o kile a araba potso go supa gore Batswana ba ba neng ba ka tshwara palo e e rileng ba stateless, mme seemo seo se tlaa baakanngwa.

Ga ke itse gore a se a baakanyega mo nakong ya gompieno.

Ke re ka ntata ya botsogo jwa me potso ya me gongwe tota Tona should follow it ka gore ke mo e neetse ka palo ke se ka ka ya lolololo le yone, a e arabe jaaka ke e boditse.
Ke mo kope gore gongwe a dirise leleme le le tlhomameng thata mo Setswaneng, gore Batswana ba utlwe potso ya me ka fa ke e boditseng ka teng.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MINISTER OF NATIONALITY, IMMIGRATION AND GENDER AFFAIRS (MS MOKGETHI): Thank you Mr Speaker.

Let me also thank Honourable Moswaane for the question.

I wish him a speedy recovery, as he has indicated that he is not well.
(i) My ministry receives and processes different types/categories of citizenship applications in accordance with the provisions of Citizenship Act CAP: 01:01 of the laws of Botswana.

In an endeavour to improve service delivery to our customers, the Citizenship process was re-engineered in 2019 and as a result, the following service standards were set for implementation: TABLE 1: Re-Engineered Service Standards for Citizenship Applications No.

1.

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3.

4.

5.

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7.

8.

9.
Type of Application Certificate of Naturalisation Certificate of Naturalisation By A Foreign Spouse Resumption of Citizenship Citizenship by Settlement Registration of a Minor Child of a Citizen Registration of an Adopted Child Over 3 Years Renunciation of Foreign Citizenship Renunciation of Botswana Citizenship Certificate of Citizenship In Case of Doubt Set Standard Time 18 Months 18 Months 30 days 46 days 35 days 35 days 17 days 29 days 35 days (ii) Mr Speaker, I am aware that some people have been waiting for their citizenship applications for some years.
I would like to acknowledge before this Honourable House that we do sometimes encounter challenges in meeting the above-mentioned turnaround times for processing applications.
This is primarily because of the following factors: • incomplete information on the applications and resultant difficulties to get into contact with the applicants; • delays by customers in submitting the necessary additional information; • failure by some customers to honour invitations for citizenship interviews; • communication breakdown due to frequent changes of addresses by customers without notifying the office (some even relocate from the country); 4 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME • delays occasioned by the role played by other stakeholders in the citizenship application process; and • the complexity of each individual case (sometimes during assessment we observe that some customers may have had criminal records).
(iii) Mr Speaker, the record shows that 944 applicants are waiting for their citizenship applications to be processed.

• A total of 269 applications have already been assessed and are ready for interviews.

• A total of 452 applications are awaiting assessment and of these 404 are pending additional information.

• Furthermore, a total of 223 applicants have already been interviewed and are to be given feedback on the outcome of their applications (Maun-47, Francistown-69 and Gaborone-107).
(iv) Mr Speaker, as illustrated at item (i) above, there are two different types of renunciation of citizenship applications which are: • Renunciation of Foreign Citizenship; and • Renunciation of Botswana Citizenship.

Upon completion of the renunciation process in the respective country of origin my ministry takes 17 days to facilitate the customer.

It must be noted, however, that we do not have control over this process since countries have different procedures and processes in place.
• for example, the Indian High Commission takes up to three days to effect the renunciation; Zimbabweans have to go to Ministry of Home Affairs in Harare to apply for renunciation and the process cost 200 USD and takes one day; while in South Africa the renunciation process may take one year or more.
(v) Mr Speaker, the 1954 United Nations Convention relating to the status of stateless persons defines a stateless person as someone who is “not recognised as a national by any state under the operation of its laws”.

Members of this House may recall that Botswana has been party to the aforementioned Convention since 6th April 1969. rendered stateless as a result of failure to comply with the provisions of section 15 (1) of the Citizenship Act.
In order to mitigate against this challenge my ministry actually facilitate the affected persons to regularise their citizenship status by applying for resumption of citizenship.

I would like to highlight that if any person were to be considered stateless, such a person would be eligible to be registered as a citizen of Botswana in accordance with the provisions of section 10 (b) of the Citizenship Act.
Section 10 (b) of the Act provides that the President may cause to be registered as a citizen-“Any person not otherwise entitled to or eligible for citizenship of Botswana with respect to whom special circumstances exist which, in the opinion of the President, warrant such registration”.

(vi) As I have already indicated at Items (i) and (ii) above, the turnaround time for applications for resumption of citizenship is 30 days.
Most people find themselves in this situation mainly because they are not aware of the resumption of citizenship process.

(vii) Mr Speaker, as I have earlier on indicated, in the event that one fails to comply with the provisions of the law by not renouncing the other citizenship before (I underline the word before) the attainment of the age of majority, my ministry usually facilitates such a person by ensuring that they resume their Botswana citizenship to avoid rendering them stateless.
(viii) I am not aware if there are any Batswana who lost Government sponsorship through the Department of Tertiary Education Financing (DTEF) because of the renunciation issue.

My ministry has put in place an administrative process to ensure that they are facilitated so that they do not lose their sponsorships.

I thank you Mr Speaker.

MR MOSWAANE: Supplementary.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

Tona, ke a go utlwa mme ke lebogele karabo ya gago.
Kana fa application e dirwa mo lephateng la gago, go na le golo mo ba reng ke checklist e e supang gore pele fa o ka e tlisa e amogelwa, o bo o setse o tlisitse tse di latelang.

A mme o bona… MR SPEAKER: Please, ask the Minister a question.

I am, however, not aware of anybody who is considered stateless in this country save for persons who are enjoying dual citizenship who may be temporarily MR MOSWAANE: Ke a botsa rraetsho, ke yone potso ya me eo.
Jaanong ka gore go na le checklist, ke eng fa most of the time you blame the applicants gore ke bone 5 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME ba ba sa tlisang tse di mmogo mme tsamaiso e le gore ga e nke e amogelwa di se mmogo?
Golo mo Tona a ko o go tlhatswe sentle, re utlwe gore ke eng jaanong fa le beile bokete jwa tiego thata mo baikopeding mme le itse gore checklist ya lona ke yone e e letlang gore kopo e amogelwe ka gore fa di se mmogo, ka tsamaiso ga nke di amogelwa mo lephateng?

A ko o tlhatswe ntlha e. Tla ke name ke eme gone foo, Mapalamente ba bangwe ba tlaa nthusa mo go tse dingwe.

Thank you so much.

MS MOKGETHI: Thank you Mr Speaker and let me also thank Honourable Moswaane for the question.
When the customer comes to our office, there is a checklist and it is on submission of the application by the applicant where it is realised that there are some documents which are missing in the list of documents that are required to be submitted.

Tla ke e beye ka Setswana jaaka honourable a kopile gore ke bue Setswana.

Fa mokopi a tla mo ministry mme go na le dilo dingwe tse di batliwang mo go ene e le mokopi wa se a se kopang, go na le checklist jaaka a tlhalositse.
Gone fela foo, o tlaabo a kopiwa gore a di tlise mme fa a boela kwa morago, o ya go diega go di tlisa.

Jaanong gantsi tiego e diragala gone foo fa mokopi kana applicant a sa boele kwa go rona ka pele ka dilo tse a kopilweng go di tlisa.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Minister.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Tona, gone foo… MR SPEAKER: No!

No!

No!

Honourable Majaga; short and precise questions.


HONOURABLE MEMBER: A a tlhalose gore kana kopo ga e tsewe fa documents di se mmogo.

MR SPEAKER: You have had your slot Honourable Moswaane, please give others a chance.

MR MAJAGA: Yes Mr Speaker.

Thank you once again.

Ke ne ke re ke botse Minister just a quick one; potso ya me ke gore time frame jaaka mmotsi wa potso a ne a bua, are they followed?
Kana se o se buang fa batho ba ikopela tsotlhe tsa boagedi, tse di tsamaelanang le boagedi, renouncement and all those associated, ka fa le tlhalosang ka teng at leadership as per the reports, go clear but on the ground jaaka ke bua jaana ke le mongwe wa baemedi ba Mapalamente e bile ke na le kgaolo ya refugees ba lefatshe la Angola ba e leng gore ke Batswana gompieno, go na le tlhakatlhakano e tona e bile le tsamaiso e e sa lebanang.
Golo moo le go lebelela jang on the ground gore tota go a diragala and not ka reports fela Tona?

Ya bofelo ke ya gore stateless persons, batho ba ba teng.

Go na le batho ba e leng gore ga ba itsiwe le gompieno, bangwe ba kwa bo Gerald ba e leng gore ga go itsiwe gore ba ka isiwa kae.

Bontsi jwa bangwe ba ne ba tswa kwa kgaolong ya me kwa motseng wa Dukwi le kwa bo Sepako tota kwa borders.
Jaanong golo mo le go rarabolola jang, gongwe go tsamaya le bolelela le batho ba metse ya bone e mo borders jaaka le gone kwa bo North West; kwa bo Ngami le Okavango?

Le ya go go fetsa leng Tona gore go nne dilo tsa maloba ka gore malatsinyana a kana re tshwanetse gore re ye pele?

Ga o bone gore Ministry of Defence le lona, le tshwanetse go baakanya maphata a lona gore dilo tse le kgone go di dira sentle?

Ke a leboga.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, I hope you are clear.
O tsholetse dinao mongwame, re na le batho ba le bantsinyana.

MS MOKGETHI: Tla ke lebogele Honourable Majaga ka potso ya gagwe gore ke rurifatse, ke dumalana le ene gore go na le mabaka a a farologaneng mo lefatsheng la Botswana.

Ke tlhalose gore seemo sa refugees ga se tshwane le seemo sa batho ba bangwe.

O buile sentle gore go na le lephata la me le le lengwe la Ministry of Defence, Justice and Security mme refugees ba wela fa tlase ga Ministry of Defence, Justice and Security.
O tlaa fitlhela e le gore go na le batho bangwe ba e leng gore ke refugees, ga ba a bolo go nna mo Botswana.

O amile dilo tseo sentle.

Go na le ditsamaiso tse di kileng tsa salwa morago, segolobogolo ba e leng gore ga ba a bolo go goroga jaaka ba maAngola, ba e leng gore ka ngwaga wa 1974, go ne ga tsewa dikgato tse di faphegileng go itebaganya le bone.
Lefatshe la Botswana le lekile ka bojotlhe go thusa batho bao gore ba kgone go bona boagedi mme go lebega e kete go na le bangwe ba e leng gore ba dule ka diphatlha tsa menwana ya rona ka lebaka la botlhokakitso jwa tsamaiso.

Puso ya rona e tsweletse fela ka go ba thusa to continue facilitating them gore ba kgone go bona boagedi.

Ke tlhalose gape gore ke boammaaruri go na le batho bangwe ba e leng gore they are living, ba nna mabapi le the borders tsa Botswana.
O tlaa fitlhela e le gore ke bone ba gantsi ba nnang le mathata a dual citizenship ka gore motsadi mongwe wa bone, o a bo e le Motswana, yo mongwe e le motswakwa, a bo a tsholwa ka dual 6 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME citizenship.

Motho o iphitlhela mo seemong se ka gore pele ga the age of majority, ga a ikatumeletse kwa diofising tsa rona a tla go supa gore o batla boagedi jwa Botswana.
Ke supe gore re ne ra dira an outreach programme mo financial year 2021/2022 kwa metseng e e latelang; ya Dagwi, Changate, Mabowe le Senete mo kgweding ya November le December 2021.

Re ...(silence)... outreach programme kwa Maitengwe, Goshwe, Matobo, Nswazwi, Makuta.

Ka lebaka la COVID-19 re ne ra phimola schedule seo, mme re ne ra se ka ra kgona go dira jalo.
Maikaelelo ke gore re tswelele ka those outreach programmes re ye kwa metseng yone eo e e bapileng le borders gore re ye go ba ruta, re ba thuse gore ba dire jang to regularise boagedi jwa bone.

So ka bokhutshwane, ke ne ke bua gore ke dumalana le wena Honourable Majaga gore go na le bothata, mme on our side re le ministry, re leka bojotlhe go thusa batho ba mofuta o o tseng jalo gore ba se ka ba iphitlhela mo seemong sa go latlhegelwa ke boagedi jwa bone.

Ke a leboga, Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.


MR KEORAPETSE: My apologies Mr Speaker, for earlier, ke ne ke tsaya gore o ne o mpiditse.

Also apology to Honourable Majaga, mme legale ga ke tshabe go kopana le ene jaaka a ne a bua.
Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re, ministry wa lona, ke ne ke batla go itse gore are you intending to bring something akin to the instant visa in the United States (US) where people with extraordinary abilities ...(inaudible)… ba nna le a special dispensation ya gore ba ka fiwa citizenship kana permanent residence?
Mo mafatsheng a mangwe e bile fa o na le PhD, automatically fa o batla permanent residence, they give you, mo gongwe fa o na le a certain amount o le investor e le gore o ka nna mo lefatsheng leo, they provide; ba na le that dispensation.

A le na le yone, fa le sena yone, e tlaa nna leng?

Sa bobedi, Honourable Kekgonegile o ne a tla ka Tshutiso ya default position, which Parliament resolved on and which you supported it.
Re tlaa fitlhelela leng kwa e leng gore banana ga ba tlhokane le to renounce, fa ba sa renounce default position, e nna gore ke Batswana.

Implementation eo e tlaa tla leng?

Multiple citizenship kana dual citizenship, la re go tlhokafala gore go baakanngwe melao e le mmalwanyana, go itsa eng gore melao eo e ka baakanngwa?

jaanong they feel gore ba batla go boela gae, why go sa nne le something akin to the law of return?
Ke buisiwa se ke gore, go na le bana ba le ba ntsi ba e leng masole, especially kwa United Kingdom (UK), ba e leng gore some of them wish to return.

Gore ke eng le sa nne le something akin to the Israeli Law of Return?

Thank you.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, just try your luck, and I will be stopping you now-now.

Please respond, and I am going to be stopping you in the next one minute.

MS MOKGETHI: Okay, tota fela Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, molao o a letlelela.
Molao wa Botswana... MR SPEAKER: Your time is over.

Your time is over Honourable Minister.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kekgonegile.

MR RAMOGAPI: On a point of procedure.

Procedure ke gore Mr Speaker, kana tsamaiso ya Palamente ke gore tota Batswana ba utlwe gore Tona a reng.

Ka tsweetswee re a khubama, re a rapela Mr Speaker, se kgoreletse Tona, Batswana ba utlwe.

Potso e ke ya Batswana, re a go rapela monngame.


O na le dithata, mme tsamaiso ke gore Tona a wetse, e seng gore o mo kganele go bua.

Fa o mo kganela procedure, go raya gore e ye go tsena mo business e e tlang.

MS MOKGETHI: ...(Inaudible)... MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, please.

Nnyaa, ke ne ke re Tona a didimale ke batla go go araba.

MR RAMOGAPI: Ke ne ke re procedure ke gore kana fa e le gore o a mo kganela, ga e fele, go raya gore the next business e bo e tsena ka gore ga e a tsena.
MR SPEAKER: Ke go utlwile.

Ke dipotso tsa Batswana ka nnete, le nna fa le mpeileng teng, le mphile 45 minutes gore dipotso di bo di arabilwe, di fedile, 45 minutes of fedile, ke tshwanetse go tsena kwa lenaneong le lengwe.

We are not going to be here for the whole day, we are working on a timed project.
HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... Sa bofelo, something akin to the Israeli Law of Return, where Batswana who have renounced Botswana, mme ba tswa go dira sentle kwa mafatsheng a mangwe, MR SPEAKER: Honourable Ramogapi, please be quiet.

Honourable Kekgonegile, please ask your question.

7 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME MR KEKGONEGILE: Tanki Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker, kana jaanong fa Palamente re ka e tsamaisa o kare morutabana a lelekile curriculum, re tlaa nna le bothata jwa gore Batswana ba itse gore go diragala eng mo lefatsheng.

MR SPEAKER: Please ask your question.

MR KEKGONEGILE: Question without notice Mr Speaker.
Kana lefatshe ka bophara mo malatsing a gompieno, re lebagane le kgaogo ya motlakase ya malatsi otlhe, mme kgaogo e ya motlakase, go lebega e na le ditlamorago tse e seng tsone mo lefatsheng ka bophara, a ke mo dijarateng, mo dikgwebong tse di potlana, le mo mebileng fela ka bophara.

Re ne re re gongwe Tona a re tlhalosetse gore go diragala eng.

Tanki Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Kekgonegile, let me advise you Honourable Member.

Honourable Kekgonegile?

MR KEKGONEGILE: Question without notice!


MR SPEAKER: Yes, that is what you should say, question number three, full stop.

MR KEKGONEGILE: Ke a e alela, ga go na curriculum e re e lelekileng mo Palamenteng.
QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE CONTINUOUS ELECTRICITY LOAD SHEDDING MR G. KEKGONEGILE (MAUN EAST): asked the Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Security to brief this Honourable House on the impact of the continuous electricity load shedding taking place country wide on the households’ economy and small businesses profitability, and in particular: (i) the causes of the continuous non-availability of electricity nationally; (ii) number of times electricity was not available in Maun in the last two weeks and causes of each incident; (iii) if the incidents are planned or not; (iv) if not planned, what are the long term solutions being put in place; (v) if planned, what is the completion date of the repairs; (vi) whether the ministry is amenable to supplementing small businesses and households’ efforts to seek alternative power generating means; and (vii) if so, can the Minister elaborate the programme/ policy to the nation.
MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR MOAGI): Thank you very much Mr Speaker.

Indeed, it is a long question, I will try to go through it quickly, bothata ke gore jaanong go raya gore re dirise sejatlhapi ka gore Setswana se a go nna seleele go feta.
Mr Speaker, I would like to inform the House that there is no load shedding being undertaken country wide as we have adequate electricity supply from our sources of supply which comprise domestic generation from Morupule Power Stations, A and B; power imports and emergency power generation facilities in Orapa and Matshelagabedi.
The power interruptions occasionally experienced in some parts of the country are attributed to distribution network faults notably during inclement weather conditions and to a lesser extent during the winter high demand season.

The power interruptions are not load shedding as I have stated.

(i) The causes of distribution power cuts are mostly aged infrastructure, inadequate maintenance and in some instances, demand exceeding installed capacity.
Aged infrastructure and a maintenance backlog result in network faults which include equipment failure, falling of wooden power line poles, water ingress into equipment, and trees getting in contact with live conductors resulting in sporadic short circuits during windy and rainy conditions.
In some instances, direct lightning strike on power infrastructure causes power cuts and other causes of power cuts on the distribution network including but not limited to theft of copper conductors, damage of underground power cables from excavations by various entities and motorists colliding into power infrastructure which is unfortunately on the increase.
(ii) Specifically, for power cuts which affected the Maun area in the past two weeks, I would like to advise the House as follows: There were 22 incidents of power outages, 14 were planned, and the remaining eight were unplanned.

It should be noted that these power interruptions were experienced in various areas of Maun and its environs.

8 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE Most of the outages were planned to carry out tree management under the power line servitude.
These planned outages will continue to be undertaken up to mid-2022 to ensure the power lines are clear of trees.

Dipula di ntse di na, ditlhare di goletse on the lines.

Unplanned outages are often caused by inclement weather, aging equipment and other various reasons mentioned earlier.

It should be noted that some power interruptions are planned power outages to enable safe working on the power network by Botswana Power Corporation (BPC).
Under such circumstances, BPC notifies customers in advance of the timing and duration of the planned power interruption.

Customers are encouraged to contact BPC Contact Centre if in doubt to ascertain whether there is planned outage or not.

(iii) As I have mentioned, some of the incidents were planned and others were unplanned.
(iv) BPC has put the following measures in place to ensure a reliable and stable power supply in the country: • To address the issue of aged infrastructure and demand exceeding installed capacity, annual budget provision is being made for refurbishment and reinforcement of the distribution network.

The intervention is in progress, and Phase 1 of the project has been completed while Phase 2 is targeted for completion in May 2022.

The third Phase has been commenced and should be completed by December 2022.
In areas where the network has been refurbished or reinforced, we see the stability and reliability of the power supply.

• To prevent power cuts attributed to maintenance backlog, BPC has embarked on a project which entails scoping and outsourcing of distribution maintenance works to contractors with adequate capacity in terms of equipment and manpower, and these mostly are citizen companies, to systematically clear the maintenance backlog area by area.
The project is at procurement stage and implementation will commence in the coming financial year.

Government will be supporting BPC financially to execute the project.

the interim, while awaiting clearance of the In maintenance backlog through outsourcing, the BPC is increasing its resources to quickly react to power cuts and reduce power restoration turnaround times.

In addition, specific measures are being put in place to improve reliability and availability of power supply in most affected areas.
For the long term, to sustain reliable supply post clearing of the current maintenance backlog, BPC is reviewing its structures to ensure that system maintenance gets carried out timely to avoid accumulation of scheduled maintenance.
• Regarding power infrastructure damage from excavations and theft of copper, BPC is liaising with the relevant parties like Roads Department, Water Utilities Corporation, Botswana Fibre Networks (BoFiNet), service providers, Botswana Police Service and scrap dealers to reduce power cuts attributed to underground cable damage from excavations and cable theft.

telecommunication other (v) The planned outages are maintenance related therefore the timelines are determined by the nature of works.
Before commencement of works, BPC provides timelines in the outage notifications to customers.

(vi) The need for customers to seek alternative power supply sources does not arise.

My ministry will ensure that BPC addresses the causes of power cuts affecting some parts of the country as quickly as possible in the manner I have elaborated.
Should any customers have specific concerns regarding reliability of electricity supply, I would urge the customers to engage BPC directly or the ministry should their concerns not be addressed to their satisfaction.

Further, we have secured some funding to …(Inaudible)… some border villages from external supply where we do not have control, in order to assist them with stable power.
(vii) As I have stated, there is no need for investments in alternative sources of power supply, therefore no programme/policy is necessary, because we already have now, Independent Power Producers (IPPs) coming into the fore, partaking in our electricity generation and this will greatly assist our power requirements.

Also the execution of our integrated resource plan projects for electricity generation will bring in the necessary power we require.

I thank you Mr Speaker.


9 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE MR KEKGONEGILE: Supplementary.

Tanki Mr Speaker.

Tanki Tona.

Dipotso tse pedi kana tse tharo fela tse motho a ka di botsang, motlakase o kgaogile ga 22 mo dibekeng tse pedi mo Maun.

Go raya gore mo malatsing a mangwe, o kgaoga gabedi, mme eight ke planned, 14 ke unplanned.
Gone mo go planned Tona, kana go tla fa gongwe o kgaoga gabedi mo area e le nngwefela, a ga o bone se se supa gore gongwe ka fa le lekang go baakanyang ka teng, ga go atlege, mo go tlhokafalang gore gongwe le tsenye boitseanape jo bontsinyana mo go gone gore le kgone go baakanya sentle?

Le kgaola ditlhare Tona.


Potso ke gore, lephata la gago kana yone BPC, e itomaganya kana e buisana go le kae gongwe le ba environment, ba Department of Environmental Affairs (DEA) gore le se ka la iphitlhela le kgaola ditlhare tse ditona, tse di kgologolo tse di rare go tlhola di ka mela gape jaaka go diragala gompieno jaana?
Fa re le mo kgaolong e tshwana le ya Ngamiland, e e nang le heritage sites tse di dintsinyana, tse di worldwide protected, le iphitlhela e le gore le sentse tikologo ka motlakase, ka pole, mme go bo go ka nna botoka gore pole e tswele ka fa thoko rather than le kgaole setlhare se se rare go tlhola se ka mela mo botshelong.

Saboraro Tona, o bua ka aged network le third phase.
A o tlhomamisetsa setšhaba gore e tlaare ka December 2022, fa o sena go nna o fetsa third phase, kgang ya go kgaola ga motlakase ga 22 mo dibekeng tse pedi mo Maun, e tlaa nna history, ga go ka ke ga tlhola go diragala?

Tanki Tona.

MR MOAGI: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke leboga le Motlotlegi Kekgonegile ka dipotso tseo.
Re tshwanetse ra amogela gore mo lebakeng le le leele, go baakanya ditogamaano tsotlhe tsa go tlisa motlakase kwa bathong, go ne go saletse kwa morago ka mabaka a a farologaneng, e ka tswa e le go nna teng ga madi kana jang.

Se ke batlang go se baakanya ke gore, e rile fa re bua ka incidents tse 22 tseo, 14 ke ene a neng a le planned, eight ke ene a neng a le unplanned.

Motlotlegi o ne a di fapaantse a di buile ka tsela e sele.
Mme ke supa gore golo moo go tla ka mabaka a mantsi, re ntse re na le dipula tse dintsi, ditlhare di godile.

Kana mo line nngwe le nngwe ya motlakase, go tshwanetse gore go nne le sephara fela se se tlhagotsweng, ga go na le fa e le sepe se se tlhogang fa thoko ga sone.

Dilo tse di direlwa gore e re fa go na le fault, dikoloi di kgone go atumela koo e ye go baakanngwa ka bonako.
Jaanong for lebaka le le ntsi e le gore dilo tse ga di direge, re fitlhela e le gore ditlhare di goletse mo teng ga dipale tse, e bile di setse di itshophile le ka megala e e tsamaisang motlakase.
So dilo tse ke tsone tse di neng di dira gore go tle go baakanngwe seemo se se ntseng jalo, a bo re kgona gore jaanong go baakanngwe metlakase sentle ka nako e e rileng, e batho ba e solofetseng, mme golo foo re go kopela maitshwarelo ka gore go ka dia dikgwebo tse dipotlana le ba ba batlang motlakase fa go santse go baakanngwa.
Rra, ke tsamaiso gore fa go kgaolwa ditlhare tse, go kopiwe tetla mo go ba ba tshwanetseng gore re tlaabo re kgaola ditlhare tsa go nna jaana, mme e bile go bo go letlelelwa gore nnyaa, ke ditlhare tse di ka letlelelwang gore di ka kgaolwa ka tsela e e ntseng jalo.

Ke thulaganyo e e teng, e a dirwa, mme e bile jaanong re ikaelela gape gore re bo re dirisa dipale tsa concrete gore re kgone go somarela tikologo, re sa dirise dipale tsa mabolikomo jaaka go tlwaelesegile.
Jaaka ke buile, aged infrastructure, go tswa mo mafelong a mantsi, go tswa lebaka le le leele e le gore infrastructure e ntse e sa baakangwe, a ke dipale jaanong di setse di jelwe ke metlhwa, a ke transformers di setse di onetse, a ke conductors jalojalo.

Dilo tse di tshwanelwa ke gore mo nakong nngwe le nngwe, mo go bidiwang gotwe asset management, di bo di ntse di shafadiwa, di tsenngwa mo seemong sa segompieno.
Gape fa metse kana mafelo a ntse a gola, go raya gore a feta le transformers tse di a bong di ne di beilwe foo gore di gokelwe.

Jaanong di tshwanelwa ke gore transformers tse, either di okediwe kana di godisiwe boleng kana bokete jwa tsone gore di tle re kgone gore di amogele motlakase o di sa reketle.

Ke tsone dilo tse gantsi o tlaa fitlhelang di supa fa go na le bothata jwa motlakase.
Dilo tse rra tse jaaka ke supile lenaneo le ke ntseng ke le bua leo le le felelang ka December 2022, go na le tsholofelo ya gore di bo di dirilwe tsotlhe di tle di ise motlakase kwa go ba ba o tlhokang.

Jaaka fela o bone gore re ne ra atolosa mafaratlhatlha a motlakase kwa sub-station e re reng ra ya go e bula mmogo.
Le gore metse e e bapileng le melelwane kwa re e sielang go tswa ka kwa mafatsheng a mangwe, re leke go e ntsha ka koo re e tsenye mo Botswana, kwa re tshephang gore re ka arabela metlakase ya teng, ka gore kwa metseng e e bapileng le melelwane e mengwe, ga re na dithata tsa go itse gore fa motlakase ka kwa go bone o kgaogile, re ka reng.

Dilo tse tsotlhe rra ke tsholofetso gore di tlaabo di fedile ka nako ya teng rra.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.


10 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE MR NKAWANA: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Sa ntlha let me declare gore ke mo komiting e e tsenyang energy ya ga Tona.

Ke mmotse gore, o ka se ke a dumalane le nna gore for a long time, they slept on the job kgotsa o ka dumalana le nna gore ke ngwao ya Puso ya bone go tlogela dilo di onala, ka gore tiro e re e bona gongwe le gongwe, le mo ditseleng tota.
Ke gore tsela e tlaabo e onala kgantele e nna noka, mme the same applies to motlakase gore Tona, ga o bone e le go palelwa ga lona le gore ga le bone le sokodisa Batswana gore le bo le nna fela go fitlhelela poles le sengwe le sengwe se onala, ke gone kwa morago le bo le re le kopa madi.

A ga le na schedule se le itseng gore ka kgwedi ya gore ka ngwaga wa gore, didirisiwa tsa gore di tshwanetse gore di bo di ntshitswe le madi a bo le teng a beetswe kwa tlhoko.
Gona le gore le bo le a kopa go setse go le maswe, jaaka re bona metlakase e nna e kgaoga kgapetsakgapetsa.

Ke bona e le go palelwa Tona, a ko o tlhalosetse setšhaba gore ke eng le re sokodisa jaana.

MR MOAGI: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Ke leboge Motlotlegi Mopalamente.

Tota fa e le go palelwa, go paletswe ene a le kwa wildlife, ba ne ba palelwa fa ba rongwa gore ba ye go baakanya eo ke ne ke feta ka yone fela motlotlegi.
Ke go tlhomamisetse gore nnyaa, ga se maikaelelo a Puso gore dilo tse di bo di saletse kwa morago... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: We are answering questions.

MR MOAGI: Tota ke go leka go tsutlaganya madi a a bong a neetswe gore a ka isa ditirelo kwa bathong gore fa o tsutlaganya, o leka gore o potise madi kafa le kafa, mo gongwe ga go lekane.

Tota plans di a bo di le teng gore re tshwanetse gore re ka letsatsi la gore, ka nako ya gore go bo go dirwa maintenance.
Mo gongwe fa go sa direge, o fitlhela o tsaya lebakanyana gore o ka boela koo, kgantele o bo o felela o tshwerwe ke ditogamaano tse di ntseng jaana.

Fela jaaka o itse le wena gore tyre ya gago e kgona go fela mo koloing, o itse gore e tshwanetse go fetolwa, mme o sena matsananyana a gore o ye go reka tyre e ntšha.

O bo o nna o ntse o e tsamaisatsamaisa fela go fitlhelela e bo e swela mo go wena.
Rra, re ntse re kopa madi re bona gape gore re ka tlhola kae sepe, gore dilo tse tsotlhe di shafadiwe di baakanngwe jaaka o ntse o bona re aga sub-stations mo mafelong a mantsinyana, re leke go fokotsa go thatlagana go le gontsi ga metse mo sub-station e nngwefela.

Re tle re kgone gore ise stability le go phatlalatsa motlakase go ya koo.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR RAMOGAPI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, Tona, ke a go leboga ka dikarabo tseo.
A o itse gore mathata a a buiwang ke Rre Kekgonegile, kwa Palapye kwa sekoleng sa Mmaphula Junior Secondary School, motlakase o ne wa kgaoga dibeke tse tharo le mo metseng go sena le fa e le sepe.

Mathata ba re ga gona part e nnyennyane fela.

Potso ya bobedi ke gore, a ga le na mo go bitswang ka Sekgoa gotwe reorder level, e o itseng gore if I have ordered five of these parts, fa go ya go tsena mo go ya boraro I should order another one.

Go bo go raya gore e nna mathata fela.


Ya boraro Tona ke gore, kwa motseng wa me wa Palapye, ka fa kgaolong Mmalekokopu jaaka o re we should report, a o a itse gore re nna re report pale e e šhang kgapetsakgapetsa, go bapa le jarata nngwe e e bitswang gotwe fa ga Mmantho Sebetela le fa ga mme Sheki.

E a tuka, we do report mme ga ba tseye kgato epe.

Rraetsho re reng, ka gore re mo mathateng.

Fa dilwana tsa Batswana di senyega ka gore motlakase ga o yo, a ba phimolwa dikeledi?

Ke a leboga Tona.
Ke a leboga Tona.

MR MOAGI: Thank you very much Mr Speaker, ke go leboge Honourable Ramogapi.

Rra, go ntse jalo re a bo re itse ka ditshenyego tse di a bong di begiwa.

Re na le thulaganyo ya gore re fefose mo re go bitsang SCADA system, e e tlaa re bolelelang gape le gore tota bothata bo direga mo paleng efe kana mo transformer efe e le fa kae ka bonako jo bo ntseng jang.
Re na le re reorder levels rra, jaaka o itse e ne ya re mo malobenyaneng jaana go bo go na le bothata jwa mesepele le dithoto go goroga.

Le sale le tsentse order ya parts, mme di sa kgone go goroga ka ntlha ya kiletso mesepele le tse dingwe jalo.

Ke sone se se neng sa re ama mo nakong eo.

Ke go solofetse gore re tsere kitsiso e o neng o e bolela ya kwa ba Mmalekokopu, ke tlaa romela bana koo gore ba ye go e lebelela le tse dingwe fela tse di tlaabong di tla.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Honourable Minister, kana go kgaoga ga motlakase kgapetsakgapetsa mo go ama dikgwebo, bogolo jang tse di potlana.

Akanya fela motho a tlhabile dikoko di le 1 000, motlakase o bo o tima di bo di bola.

Ke batla go itse gore, tlhulaganyo ya lona ke eng mo diemong tse di ntseng jalo.

A le na le thulaganyo ya go fokotsa manokonoko a a dirilweng ke go tima ga motlakase mo dikgwebong tse di potlana Honourable Minister?
MR MOAGI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Betsho, thulaganyo kana tota e ntse jalo go fetlhiwa motlakase, mme fa o seyo ga o yo.

Ga gona jaaka tota go ka dirwa, 11 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE fa o seyo ga o yo.

Ke sone se e leng gore fa e le kgaogo which is planned, kitsiso e nna teng gore batsadi ba me e tlaa re ka labokana ka nako ya gore motlakase o bo o seyo, gore batho ba kgone go dira alternative plans tsa gore ba ka dira jang.
Fa e le wa breakdown, ga gona gore go ka dirwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

A re tlhaloganyeng batsadi ba me gore, fa selo se senyegile jaaka go santse go baakanngwa jaana, re tlaa tsamaya re ntse re na le mathata a ka sebakanyana.

E tlaa re kwa kgabagareng e bo dilo tse tsotlhe tse re di baakantse.

paletswe kwa University of Botswana (UB) o ne o jesa, mme ba ntse ba itse gore bana ba ke neng ke ba ruta, ke bone ba ba tshwereng mathata a bone.
Mr Speaker, I think kgang e o se ka wa e tlogela fela, a Government must be criticised, constructively so.

Ga ke dumele gore it should attract ad hominen attacks on Members of Parliament (MPs) gore o bo o re, Honourable Nkawana o paletswe kwa Wildlife.

I thought Mr Speaker, it was very unfair on your part not to direct the Minister to desist from doing that.

I thank you.
I thank you.

O tlaa itse Motlotlegi Gobotswang gore, kwa kgaolong ya gago go ne go ntse gona le kgaogo e e neng e diragala kgapetsakgapetsa, mme ra nna ra fetola ka bonya ka bonya dipale tsa blokom ra go tsenyetsa tsa konkoreiti.

Wa ba wa tla wa report le wena fa gore nnyaa go ne go le botoka motlakase ga o sa tlhole o kgaoga jaanong, ke paakanyo eo.

Ke kopa maitshwarelo a gore re name re ntse re bobile jalo, fa dipaakanyo di sena go nna di wela, re tlaa bona pharologanyo e e re tshwanetseng.
Gompieno re santse re baakanya.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR KEORAPETSE: Procedure.

Mr Speaker, I rise on two points of procedure, the first being that, fa go botswa Minister’s question ya ga Honourable Moswaane, se se neng sa diragala ga se tradition.

Ke ne ke kopa ka tsweetswee Mr Speaker, gore fa nako e tšhaile… MR SPEAKER: Go diragetse eng?

MR KEORAPETSE: Ke gore e rile fela Tona a re o a araba, o bo o re nako e tšhaile o mo kgaupetsa.

Jaanong go raya gore we have pending questions.


In the past, the Speaker had directed the Minister in respect of my question ya BCL e e neng e arabiwa ke Honourable Moagi gore a mphe a written answer, which he did.

Ga ke itse gore fa re tlogela kgang ya teng e le hanging ya ga Honourable Moswaane mo supplementary questions tse di neng di buiwa, a go felela fela foo?
Ke ne ke re re e baakanye because tradition ke gore either Tona o letlelelwa go digela… MR SPEAKER: You have made your point, migrate to another point.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Keorapetse.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... MR SPEAKER: Iketle pele Tona, ga e go tlhoke, ga e batle wena, let us have order please!

Honourable Keorapetse stood on a point of order, we cannot have another one.

Let me advise the House that today we have spent 75 minutes on three questions, that is being unproductive.
We have to spend far less time than that.

Secondly, questions are timed Honourable Members.

Fa gotwe they are timed, fa potso e filwe 25 minutes, we cannot go beyond 25 minutes.

Ke rona re le Mapalamente, mapolotiki, re rayang badirelapuso re re, they must be productive, ba fetse tiro ya bone pele ga nako.

Secondly, I could not agree more with you Honourable Keorapetse that Government deserves to be criticised, you are 100 per cent right.
Nako ya dipotso is not the time to criticise Government, Standing Order 41.3 says, “short and precise questions must be directed to the Minister.” No time to criticise the Minister, no time to criticise Government.

Ka Setswana e bile ra re, “mutlwa wa noko o rotolwa ke o mongwe,” fa Motlotlegi Mopalamente a tshwanetse go botsa potso a bo a tlhasela Tona, Tona o tshwanetse a arabe ka go mo tlhasela.
O rototse mutlwa wa noko… MR KEORAPETSE: A tlhasela Goromente, wa itse ga ke itse gore Speaker la re o boa leng.

MR SPEAKER: It is not the time go tlhasela Goromente, ke nako ya dipotso.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)... MR KEORAPETSE: Okay, the second point is that Mr Speaker, there is something emerging from Matona gore when you criticise Government, it attracts ad hominem attack on the Member making the point.
I am saying this because Honourable Member o ne a le clear e le gore the criticism e mo go Goromente.

Jaanong gatwe o paletswe kwa Wildlife.

Ba bangwe ba e tle ba re o MR SPEAKER: May we have order Honourable Minister!

O kganelwa ke nna, ke a laola fa, I want quietness mo tirong ya me.

We are not running a public bar.

Ke dumalana le wena Rraetsho Keorapetse, se se ka diragalang fela, nako e tšhaile, Motlotlegi Mmaetsho Tona will give a written answer to whoever asked a question.
12 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE TABLING OF PAPERS The following papers were tabled: LEGAL AID BOTSWANA ANNUAL REPORT, 2020/2021 (Minister of Defence, Justice and Security) NATIONAL ICT POLICY REVIEW AND E-COMMERCE STRATEGY FOR BOTSWANA (Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry) BOTSWANA BUREAU OF STANDARDS ANNUAL REPORT, 2020/2021 (Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry) COMPANIES AND INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AUTHORITY ANNUAL REPORT, 2020/2021 (Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry) MR SPEAKER: Before I call the Honourable Minister of Health and Wellness to make a statement, let us hear what your procedure is Honourable Moswaane.
MR MOSWAANE: Mr Speaker, mme ke go leboge motho wetsho.

Kana ke tsere tshwetso e e thata ya go go ikokobeletsa malatsi ano go ya pele.

Jaanong ga ke batle gore e nne e kete gone moo go ya go nkisa kwa tlase go feta sengwe le sengwe.

Procedure e tshwanetse go tsena ka nako e ke e kopileng ka yone ka gore go ne go le botlhokwa nakong ya fa Tona a araba potso ya motlakase gore a tlhalose ka issue ya compensation e a sa kgonang go e araba.
Compensation e ne e le botlhokwa gore Batswana ba itse gore ka nako ya fa motlakase o timile ka phoso kana ka plan a mme jaanong fa dithoto di senyegile will they be compensated.

Go botlhokwa.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Moswaane, I regret that chapter is closed.

MR MOSWAANE: O ganne akere Morena.

MR SPEAKER: That chapter is closed!

MR MOSWAANE: Ke sone se ke neng ke re o nne o re fa ka nako ya teng.

STATEMENT UPDATE ON COVID-19 PANDEMIC mo mosong o wa Labotlhano.
Ke lebogele tshono e ya gore ke kgone go lekodisa Palamente le Batswana ka fa re tshwereng ka teng ka Ntwa kgatlhanong le bolwetse jo jwa COVID-19.

Mr Speaker, Honourable Members, I rise to give an update on recent developments in our struggle against the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

It is exactly a year since we started the vaccination programme on the 27th March 2021.
It is befitting therefore that I give an update of this nature, so that I can share with Batswana the achievement we have made and also give an insight into the future as we see it.
I wish to state from the onset that tremendous progress has been made to save the lives of Batswana and avert a possible humanitarian catastrophe arising from the devastating effects of this deadly pandemic, in line with His Excellency the President of this beautiful republic Dr Mokgweetsi Eric Keabetswe Masisi’s priority number one in the Reset Agenda.

Mr Speaker, I wish to thank Batswana for the many sacrifices they have made in helping us contain this pandemic.
I have no doubt that the gains we have made as a country may not have been possible had it not been because of their efforts.

With more than 60 per cent of our entire population having received at least first dose of COVID-19 vaccination we remain one of the most vaccinated countries in the world and one of the four countries in Africa that met the World Health Organisation (WHO) target of reaching 40 per cent vaccination threshold by December 2021.
We are well on course, Mr Speaker, to reach the new 70 per cent target set by WHO for countries to have reached by mid- 2022.

Mr Speaker, I cannot thank my ministry staff together with our partners and other health care workers across the length and breadth of this country enough for their tireless efforts in ensuring that many lives are saved.

You may all recall the journey we have travelled starting with the “Arm Ready” campaign right up to the now “Ke Nna, Ke Wena” campaign.
All this meant to educate people about COVID-19.

The Nation now knows more about COVID-19 than they did in April 2020 when the first case was discovered in Botswana.

As a result of this laudable efforts, many lives have been saved and continue to be saved.

The country will learn the importance of working together.

The people will learn the importance of taking medical advice.

MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (DR DIKOLOTI): Mma ke go leboge Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.
Ke dumedise Mapalamente Mr Speaker, it is on account of this background that my ministry recently introduced some new measures meant to achieve primarily two things; 13 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT UPDATE ON COVID-19 PANDEMIC (a) To safeguard the gains we have made.

(b) To gradually ease restrictions and help increase economic activity.
Mr Speaker, since 14 February 2022 we introduced scope of being fully vaccinated as the main requirement for entry into Botswana for purposes of smoothening international travel.

The definition of being fully vaccinated in Botswana no longer include a booster dose.

Having completed the primary vaccine series is considered sufficient for one to be allowed entry without the need to present a negative PCR test result.
Only those who are partially vaccinated or are not vaccinated at all are required to produce PCR test result and further be required to undergo COVID – 19 testing at ports of entry.

This arrangement Mr Speaker serves two main purposes: (a) It helps avert the importation of new cases and new COVID-19 variants into the country.
It must be noted that though PCR testing is helpful in filtering those with the COVID-19 virus from those without it is not 100 per cent perfect since an individual can test today, be infected with COVID-19 after submitting the sample, but receive a negative PCR test result the following day when they collect their results.

(b) If allowed entry such an individual can bring the disease and other foreign variants thus eroding the immunity that may have been built over the past year.
(c) Vaccinated people are known to have lower chances of spreading the virus or contracting it.

They are also known to experience mild symptoms when infected with COVID-19.

This helps with fewer hospitalisation and death cases that can be reported at any point in time.

(d) Mr Speaker, if unvaccinated people are allowed in the country the rate of the infections might grow and the possible surge in the number of hospitalisations and deaths.

We do not wish to see the situations again.


The second intervention we made as a way of further easing COVID-19 restrictions in Botswana was to reduce self-isolation period to a minimum of five days for those fully vaccinated and showing mild or no symptoms of the disease.

Those who are partially vaccinated but showing mild or no COVID-19 symptoms will no longer undergo seven days self-isolation period.
It is only those who show moderate to severe symptoms of COVID-19 regardless of whether they are vaccinated or not who will be required to isolate for 10 days.

Mr Speaker, all these interventions are meant to gradually ease COVID-19 restrictions first introduced when the pandemic broke out and open up the economy, so that it slowly but surely revert to its pre-Covid performance rate.

We trust that Batswana will not interpret the ease in restriction to mean that COVID-19 has now been totally defeated.
The pandemic remains an existential threat to our lives and livelihoods.

We need to continue with the two tried and tested approaches for fighting this pandemic as advised by the healthcare workers.

These two approaches are the pharmaceutical approach represented by the COVID-19 vaccines and the none pharmaceutical approach represented by COVID-19 protocols.

I therefore Mr Speaker, encourage Batswana to take up COVID-19 vaccines if they have not yet done so.
I also call upon those who have not yet taken their boosters to do so if they are due.

Let us continue to observe COVID-19 protocols as advised by healthcare workers.

The continuous emergence of new variants of SARS- COV2 virus pose a serious threat to the future of this country and humanity in general.

Although so far not as deadly as the delta variant the Omicron variant has proved to be the most infectious and at the height of the fourth wave.
Thousands were infected within a short space of time both in Botswana and across the world.

This calls for greater vigilance on our part as a country and people.

In recent days, we have seen a new surge of infections in Asia and some parts of Europe.

We call upon Batswana to remain vigilant as we face this possibility of a fifth wave.

I am fully aware that our infection figures have been going down dramatically to below 1,000 cases.

This should not lull us into complacency.


We should instead follow health protocols and take up COVID-19 vaccines as advised by healthcare workers.

It is only through these actions and efforts that we can eventually defeat this deadly disease.

Preliminary research Mr Speaker, on the COVID-19 pandemic, indicates that the disease may evolve into an endemic stage.

This means that the disease may stay with us for a longer time than we had anticipated.
As the Ministry of Health and Wellness, we will continue to keep an eye on this disease and take the necessary steps to protect Batswana and all residents of this country.

We 14 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT UPDATE ON COVID-19 PANDEMIC have no doubt that one day we will defeat this virus.

Together Mr Speaker, we will win, for we know that God, Our Father and protector will never forsake us.
We hear Him talking to all Batswana in Second Chronicles 15, verse Seven when He said and I quote Mr Speaker… MR SPEAKER: Do quote.

DR DIKOLOTI: “But you, be strong and do not lose courage for there is a reward for your work”.

Our reward will be the saving of lives and livelihoods of our people.

Amen!

I thank you for your attention.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Thank you Honourable Minister.


Standing Order 41.2 has allowed you to table that statement, Standing Order 41.3 says “The Speaker in his discretion, may allow short and precise questions.” MR LESEDI: Tla ke go leboge Mr Speaker, good morning.

Ke ne ke re gongwe jaaka Tona a sa tswa go wela ka tekodiso eo, gongwe motho o ka tlhaloganya gore a mo nakong e ya gompieno e re buang re le mo go yone, a ga gona epe melemo kana mekento e ba setseng ba e itemogetse e senyegile?
Fa e le gore e teng Mr Speaker, fa re e isa kwa mading a di Pula e ka lopa bokae?

Tla ke wele ka ya bobedi re dumele gore jaaka a supa, re bone mekento gore e gorogile mme a ga a lemoge gore jaanong ka fa e gorogileng ka teng, go bo go tlhokega dipilisi, bogolo jang tsa malwetse a a sa tshelanweng?

A ga a lemoge gore seemo se santse se ntse se le worse mo botsogong jwa ba rona Mr Speaker?

Ke a leboga.

MR SPEAKER: Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tona, a ga o bone gore seemo se worse?
DR DIKOLOTI: Tla ke go leboge Mr Speaker.

Gongwe ga ke itse, fa o ne o letlelela ka gore gongwe go na le dikgatlhego, le fa ba ne ba ka dira dipotso di le tharo at a go, ke bo ke tla ke ba araba.

Ga ke itse gore a o a ntetlelela.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you very much Honourable Minister.

We will take them in batches of three; that is fine.

Let us get Motlotlegi Rraetsho Mopalamente wa Sefhare-Ramokgonami.

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Gongwe ke latedisa mo potsong ya ga Honourable Lesedi; gone mme o tlile go re fa leng pego ka bophara mabapi le go tlhaela ga dipilisi tse jaanong di tsereng phekelo e sele?

Potso ya ntlha.

Potso ya bobedi; Batswana ba kae gompieno jaana ba ba neng ba tshwanetse go bo ba ka bo ba kentilwe ba tsere mekento mme ba sa kentiwa?

Ba kae ba ba neng ba tshwanetse go ka bo ba setse ba tsere mekento, wa ntlha kana ba le fully vaccinated?
Lenaneo la lona ke eng mabapi le Batswana ba e leng gore ga ba a kentiwa mme ba le mo Botswana ka gore go lebega gore ba ba tswang kwa ntle, le batla go ba kganela?
Potso ya bofelo Honourable Minister, ke eng o kare ga gona tomagano within Southern African Development Community (SADC) mabapi le go lwantsha dibetso tse di tshwanang le tsone tsa bo COVID-19, mo o fitlhelang protocols tsa lona di tsamaya di se aligned mme le itse gore ke batho ba le bangwefela e bile re dirisanya ka ditsela tse di farologaneng?

Why are you not aligned within SADC Honourable Minister?

Ke a leboga.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, they are three.

Please be precise, short and brief.


We have a long list.

This is a national issue; ke batla go ba neela chance.

DR DIKOLOTI: Ba two Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Ba two?

Honourable Tshere.

MR TSHERE: Thank you Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Le nna ke na le dipotso fela tse di khutshwane.

Pele ke leboge ministry ka fa ba ntseng ba tshwere ka teng and the achievements we have made so far.
Ya ntlha ke gore Tona, kgang e ya go batla gore ba ikente kana ba kentiwe kwa border, ke bone gore o e boetse kwa morago.

Jaanong potso ya me ke gore a o a ikotlhaya gore o bo o dirile tshwetso ya mofuta oo?

Le gone e tlaa re mo isagong pele o tsaya ditshwetso tsa mofuta oo, o tlaa dira tshekatsheko e e tseneletseng le ba o dirang le bone?

Ke potso ya ntlha.

Ya bobedi, ‘Arm is Ready’; o ne o bua ka yone.

A le yone e ne e duetswe ka fa tlase ga COVID-19 Relief Fund?
Fa e le gore e duetswe ka fa tlase ga COVID-19 Relief Fund mo potsong ya earlier, e duetswe e le bokae?

Sa boraro e le sa bofelo, Tautona Rraetsho Mokgweetsi Masisi o a ne a tlhagisa kgapetsakgapetsa gore melemo ya rona e e kentang ya COVID-19 is expiring e bile a rotloetsa Batswana gore ba kente ka bonako before it expires.

Fa o lebeletse mo melemong e o e tshwereng, how many expire in April and when it expires, le dira jang ka yone?

Ke a leboga.
Ke a leboga.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, o tsholetse dinao mongwame ka gore ba bantsi.

Honourable Minister, in batches of three.

15 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT UPDATE ON COVID-19 PANDEMIC DR DIKOLOTI: Thank you very much Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo.

Honourable Lesedi, expired drugs di teng Morena, re ne re ntse re lekodisa setšhaba ka tsone.

Re na le AstraZeneca that has expired, ga ke na the cost of those that have expired gompieno.

It is something that I can get for you and share.


Shortage of drugs in facilities, ke tlaa e tsaya ke e pataganya le ya ga Honourable Gobotswang.

Ke boammaaruri gore e ne ya re ka kgwedi ya Hirikgong, ra fefogela kgang e re bona gore re simolotse go nna le tlhaelo.

Ra lekodisa setšhaba le Batswana go ya ka metswedi e e farologaneng.

Le mo maphakeleng a, ke ne ke kopane le bone ba Central Medical Stores (CMS) le Executive ka kgang e re dumela gore it is an emergency and must be treated as such.
Se ke ka se solofetsang Batswana ke ntshitse phega ke gore kgang e mo nakong e e sa fediseng pelo, re tlaabo re e baakantse.

Ditsela di tharo tse o ka rekang melemo ka tsone.

O na le mo gotweng micro procurement, o ka kopa waivers kana o ka nna le tenders tse e leng gore you give them contract, tse di tsayang lebaka, tse re nang le lebaka re sena tsone.

Ke tsone tse di dirileng gore re bo re iphitlhela re le fa re leng teng.
Jaanong gompieno re ntse re reka ka micro procurement e e leng gore e tla at a huge cost to us.

Sengwe se Mapalamente re tshwanetseng go ititiela lebogo ka sone kana re le Puso, ke gore re bo re fetotse molao wa Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Board (PPADB), o e ntseng e le sengwe sa dikgopi fa go tla go tsena mo thekong ya melemo.

You will agree with me Honourable Tshere gore kana health is a specialised area, e e leng gore theko ya yone ga e tshwane le e e ka nnang kwa maphateng a mangwe.
Ke dumela gore ka fa re fetotseng molao o ka teng, go tlaa re thusa, go bo go tlhofofatsa gore re kgone go nna le theko e e tseneletseng ya melemo.

Gore ke tlaa tla leng mo Palamenteng, ke ne ke bua le team ya me phakela; pele fa Palamente e e tswala, ke tlaabo ke tla go le lekodisa ka seemo sa melemo, ke ntsha pego jaaka ke e ntsha jaana gore Batswana ba kgone go utlwa, le lona le utlwe.

Honourable Gobotswang o ne a re re kentile ba le kae?
Ka Labobedi le ka Labone, bodiredi bo nna bo ya kwa television le radios go lekodisa setšhaba gore re kentile ka bokete jo bo kana ka eng.

Gakologelwa gore re ne re kenta ka phases; we had Phase 1 ya 55 years and above, e mo go yone ba ikentileng ka dipalo tse di utlwalang; more than 80 per cent of them vaccinated.

Re ntse le Phase 2 e ba ikentileng ka dipalo tse di kwa godimo thata.
Phase 3 ke yone e re ntseng le kgwetlho mo go yone, e e leng gore it is just hovering around 55 per cent, ya ikento ya yone.

Phase Four ke e re leng mo go yone e re kentang bana ba dikole.

Yone e supagala e le gore e tla sentle thata.

Sengwe se re bonang Batswana ba le maoto a tshupa mo go sone ke lemao la tlaleletso kana booster dose, e ke solofelang gore rotlhe re le Mapalamente fa, re ya go e tshwaraganela go netefatsa gore itshireletso ya rona e nna yone.
Kgang ya ga Honourable Gobotswang e nngwe o ne a re ke eng go sena coordination within SADC?

Boammaaruri ke gore re le boTona ba Botsogo mo SADC re a kopana, re a di bua dikgang tse, re a di touta go bona gore re dira jang gore dilo tsa rona kana motsamao o kgone go nna motlhofo.
Fa o nkutlwa ke ntsha pego e ke neng ke e ntsha gompieno, ke ne ke go bolelela gore nngwe ya dilo tse re neng re di eteleditse pele ke go sireletsa dikatlego tse re setseng re ntse le tsone tsa go kenta ka go botlhokwa gore o sireletse mo o nang le gone pele fa o ka akanya tse dingwe tse di kwa ntle.

Re tsweletse re a bua.

Fa o ka ela tlhoko, le baagisanyi ba rona ba setse morago thulaganyo e re neng re ntse re e simolotse ya gore travel go dirisiwe vaccination certificate jalojalo.
Ke tsaya gore ke jaaka re ntse re kopana re buisana, re kopisanya go bona gore re ka smoothen movement jang.

Honourable Tshere o ne a bua ka go boela morago go kenta booster dose at the borders.

Ke batla gore o tlhaloganye Honourable Tshere as I have mentioned in my statement, kana mo Botswana gore o kenta leng go laolwa ke lekalana le le okametseng dikgang tsa melemo la Botswana Medicines Regulatory Authority (BoMRA).
BoMRA has indicated that for those that have taken different vaccines jaaka di ne di ntse di balololwa, o tshwanetse gore morago ga lebaka le le kae o bo o tsere a booster dose.

So, o ka gakologelwa gore rona re le lefatshe, re tshwanetse gore re sireletse re bo re dire go ya ka fa ba BoMRA ba re lekodisa ka teng.

Gore re bo re ntshitse booster dose at the border, ga re a e ntsha gore e ka kentiwa inland.

We are still pushing to tell you all ba e leng gore you are due gore le ye go kenta.
Re e ntshitse gore re align le mafatshefatshe ka gore ba bangwe nako ya bone ya booster e farologana le ya rona kwano gore re kgone to smoothen the travel.

So, ke ne ke batla gore o e tlhaloganye gone foo.

Ga se gore re e ntshitse ka lebaka la gore re ne re dirile phoso, 16 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT UPDATE ON COVID-19 PANDEMIC nnyaa rra.

BoMRA e re letleletse, go kwadilwe go mo molaong gore re ka kenta lemao la tlaleletso go ya ka fa re neng re le kenta ka teng.
MR SPEAKER: Are you done?

DR DIKOLOTI: I am done Mr Speaker.

O ne o botsa ka ArmReady rra.

ArmReady ke thulaganyo e e botlhokwa.

Thulaganyo ya go kenta e makalana matlhano.

Lekalana la Risk Communication and Community Engagement (RCCE) le botlhokwa thata.

Le dirile gore re nne le katlego e e seng kana ka sepe.
O tlaa gakologelwa gore ArmReady e tsile ka lebaka la gore re bo re ne re dirile dipatlisiso tsa go bona gore go amogela go kentwa ga Batswana go tlaabo go ntse jang, re bo re nna le a risk perception ya gore Batswana ba tshoga eng ka mokento o, re bo re tla ka a proper risk communication strategy se e leng gore mo go sone re ne re nna ArmReady, e bo le wena o nna ArmReady gore o tle o kgone go bona lemao le.
Thulaganyo e e ne e rotloeditswe segolobogolo ke ba United States Agency for International Development (USAID) ba patagane le ba Family Health International (FHI).

Ke bone barotloetsi bagolo ba thulaganyo e. Re le Puso, re ne re ntshitse go le go nnyennyane.

Tota mo re neng re go ntshitse ke ka letsatsi le re neng re ribolola thulaganyo e. Bo tshoso-o-rweleng ba thulaganyo e ke partners tsa rona tse ke di lebogang thata gore ba bo ba ntse banaleseabe.
Ba ntse ba tsweletse, gompieno jaaka o utlwa Franco a re o tlatsa lebala, re ntshitse tickets, ke ntse ke bone gape.

Ba na le rona gore a re tswelele, ‘gakere re ArmReady e bile ke nna ke wena, dikgang tsa botsogo ga di batle nna ga di nkame.’ Re tshwere thulaganyo rotlhe re rotloetsa batho gore ba ye go kentiwa.

Ya bofelo o ne o bua ka melemo golo fale, expired drugs; gore vaccines di expire leng?
Re tlaa ntsha pego fa re ntse re tsweletse mme ke ka go bolelela gore go simolola ka 2nd April go na le some consignments tsa Moderna tse di tlaabong di expire.

Di tlaa expire ka malatsi a a farologaneng a tsone.

Re tlaa nna re ntse re ntsha ditekodiso tsa teng gore le kgone go itse gore re e tshwere jang ka tsone.

O tlaa gakologelwa gore re na le mo re go tshwereng mo go kwa Central Medical Stores (CMS) le tse di kwa facilities.
Re tlaa goboka dipalo tsa teng gore e tle e re fa re le di neela e bo e le dipalo tse tse di boammaaruri.

Konokono ya kgang ke go le kopa batlotlegi gore tsayang maikarabelo, dikgang tsa botsogo ke tsa me, ke tsa gago, ke nna ke wena, nna Armready o ye go kenta.

Se boke go senyega ga mekento, boka go kentiwa ka gore molemo o o botoka o le mo lebogong la gago.

Mariga a etla.

Re simolotse go utlwalela kwa fifth waves di le teng, a Batswana ba babalesege.
MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Minister, but you ought to indicate to me.

Honourable Member for Palapye, short and precise questions.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, ke wa boraro, o ntse o a mpheta, ga o mpone sir?

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member for Palapye is above you.

Honourable Member for Palapye.

…Silence… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Brooks, botsa potso, o santse a ile Mmaphula.

MR BROOKS: Thank you Mr Speaker, good morning.


Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re ga se potso, ke go go leboga Tona ka update e a re e neelang.

Go botlhokwa thata rraetsho gore o nne o ntse o re update.

Kana e e tsenang ka Mmantaga le Labone golo fale, e e buiwang ke ba ba eteletseng committee pele, o fitlhela re saletse kwa morago Mapalamente ka gore re a bo re le mo Palamenteng, jaanong gore re bo re le fa go botlhokwa.

MR SPEAKER: Please go to your question.


MR BROOKS: Mr Speaker, the question is, ka gore jaanong o leka go fokotsa ditsamaiso tse re ntseng re tsamaisa COVID ka tsone, segolo jang kwa melelwaneng, a le gone o ya go ntsha bana ba rona ba ba koo ba baoki jalojalo?

Le ntse le le mo dipuisanong le Minister gore go lebega borders di le nne di tlaa bulwa, McCarthy’s Rest e le nngwe ya tse di bulwang ka di 1st, are you ready?
Re se ka ra bona seemo se se neng se tshwana le sa kwa Bokspits kwa ope a neng a sa itse gore mang a reng.

Are you ready gore border ya McCarthy’s jaaka e bulwa bana ba gago ba bo ba le gone ka kwa?

E nngwe e re neng re re re a e botsa e e re tsentseng dingalo thata ke gore mme gone Minister, are you ready to come and brief this Honourable House in the next week sitting ka dikgang tsa melemo, procurement ka fa e tsamayang ka teng?
Kana re tlhoka melemo letsatsi le letsatsi mme go lebega e kete ministry wa gago o maoto a tshupa go ka bega availability ya melemo.

So, are you ready to come and brief us next week, before Palamente e tswalwa almost every week gore re itse gore totatota what is in your basket?

Thank you sir.

17 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT UPDATE ON COVID-19 PANDEMIC MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member for Selebi Phikwe East.

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Silence... MR SPEAKER: A re mo fete.

Honourable Kapinga.
Honourable Kapinga.

MR KAPINGA: Thank you Mr Speaker.

A very short question, one question Honourable Minister.

Go na le batho mo setšhabeng sa rona ba e leng gore ka mabaka a a farologaneng a ba dumelang thata mo go one ba tsere tshwetso ya gore tota ga ba batle go kentiwa.
Mo seemong se re leng mo go sone in terms of the immunity e o kgonneng go e generate through vaccination and others through infection, a o santse o le mo seemong sa gore o batla mongwe le mongwe a ikenta le ba ba ganang gotlhelele gore ga ba batle mokento?

A ga re a goroga mo seemong sa gore ba ba ganang gotlhelele, re lebile our level of immunity, re ka ntsha attention ya rona mo go bone ra focus mo go tse dingwe Honourable Minister, without compromising public health?

Ke a leboga.
Ke a leboga.

MR KABLAY: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke botse Tona gore ka re utlwa gotwe bolwetse bo a bo bo simologile kwa China, a go ne go sa tlhokafale gore flights tse di tswang China di kganelwe go tsena mo lefatsheng la rona?

Rona re itekile go leka go fetsa bolwetse mo ga rona jaanong bo a bo bo ka tloga jwa simologa bo tswa go sele ka re a utlwa gore kwa China go maswe bolwetse go šhakgetse.
A o ne o sa bone sir gore re name re emisitse flights tse di tswang China gore gongwe ba ka tloga ba tshela bolwetse mo ga rona ga tloga ga nna le tlhakatlhakano?

Thank you sir.

DR DIKOLOTI: Mma ke go leboge Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamentele le batlotlegi.

Honourable Brooks, e ne e le kgakololo.


Kana Budget Session e ne e le very tight Honourable Brooks, you would have loved gore re nna re tla re le update mme re ne re dumalane mo General Assembly gore re leke to focus go fitlhelela re fetsa budget pele.

Ke dumela gore ka gore jaanong re simolotse go tsena on Bills, re tlaa nna re le lekodisa kgapetsakgapetsa.

O ne o botsa ka bodiredi kwa di melelwaneng.

Kana we have decentralised, re na le Coordinators lefatshe ka go farologana.
O na le Coordinator yo o itseng gore o matšhato thata ka kwa Kgalagadi ka fale Honourable Brooks, ke dumela gore o tlaa dira thulaganyo e e maleba.

Se re se tlelang gompieno ka kgang ya to test kwa melelwaneng, we are allowing the private sector to take over testing at the borders so that ba rona ba ba ntseng ba le teng kwa re kgone go ba dirisa ka gore o a itse gore re ne re tsaya kwa dikokelwaneng Honourable Brooks, re isa kwa melelwaneng go leka go thiba diphatlha.
Ke dumela gore thulaganyo e re e dirileng re le Puso jaanong e tlaa kgona go re thusa gore ba bangwe ba kgone go tla go thusa gone koo.

Ke batla gore o tlhaloganye thata Honourable Brooks, re dirile tiro motlhofo go feta selekanyo, kenta o kgone go feta kwa molelwaneng.

Ke yone e e motlhofotlhofo go feta.

Ga e batle re e complicate re bo re akanya go feta ka fa e ntseng motlhofo ka teng gone foo.

Honourable Kapinga o ne a bua ka the anti-vaccines.
Honourable Kapinga, mathata a batho ba ba sa batleng go kenta kana ba ba ganang go kenta, e tshwanetse gore e nne mathata a me le wena ka gore re itse borai le botlhoko jwa go tlhoka go kenta segolobogolo mo botlhokong joo jwa COVID-19.

So e yone ke dumela gore molao o teng o o pateletsang fa go tlhokafala gore batho ba ba sa kentiwang ba kentiwe.
Se se botlhokwa kana se re neng re se ipeile pele re le lephata e ne e le gore, motho yo o sa kenteng, e tlaa nna maikarabelo a rona gore re dire tiro gore kwa bofelong a felele a kenta.

tsa natural Dikgang immunity, o nkgakolola Mopalamente mongwe o ne a bua ka tsone ka 2020 when debating State of Emergency (SoE), mme dikgang tsa teng e ne ya re morago a tloga a di fetogela, a di itatola ka gore ga se tse o ka di buang mo bolwetseng jo bo santseng bo le bosha, bo iphetola ka fa bo iphetolang ka teng.
Gompieno o a lemoga gore Omicron go tla ga yone, e ne e anama ka bofefo jwa ga Monyanka le Waere, mme e sa bolae jaaka Delta e ne e bolaya.

So re a utlwalela gompieno kwa mafatsheng a mangwe gore jaanong Omicron e nyetse Delta, mme ga re itse gore borai jwa nyalo e, bo tlaa go raya bo reng ka gore o a itse gore Delta e ne e bolaya ka bokete jo bo kana ka eng, Omicron yone e anama ka bokete jo bo kana ka eng.
So dikgang tse tsotlhe re tshwanetse gore re sireletse gone mo re go ipeileng pele jaaka Motlotlegi Tautona a rile, mo thomong ntšha ya gagwe, tlhabatshe ya ntlha ke go boloka tšhaba e ya Botswana segolobogolo kgatlhanong le bolwetse jo jwa COVID-19.

Ke welelela kwa go ya ga Honourable Kablay gore Honourable Kablay, ba batlisise ba rona ba ntse malala a laotswe, ba leka go bona gore re ka baakanya jang.
Ke sone se o bonang gompieno e rile fa re ntsha go kenta kwa border, even though re re melemo e tlaa nna e ntse e le available, re bo re netefatsa gore mme jaanong gape le fa o tla ka yone the negative test results, we will also test you at the port of entry, and o tlaa tlhaloganya gore 18 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT UPDATE ON COVID-19 PANDEMIC gone ga tsoga modumo thata segolobogolo ka nako e go neng go tlhagoga Omicron gore kana people came with a negative test result, tested positive here and then we had the Omicron.
Batlhalefi ba rona ba ithuta gone kwa re tswang teng, go ya pele re a ipaakanya gore kwa bofelelong re kgone go babalela tšhaba e, re babalele le dikatlego tsa rona re le lefatshe.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR LEUWE: Thank you Rraagwe Nkamo, ke a dumedisa mosong wa letsatsi.

A quick one Tona.

Maabane go ne go na le potso mo Palamenteng e e neng e arabiwa ke Honourable Lelatisitswe, e botsa thata ka tiragalo e gotweng e diragetse kwa border.
E go neng ga supafala gore go lebega jaanong batho ba goga maoto go ya go tsaya booster ntateng ya information eo.

Potso ke gore, a o ne o sa bone go le botlhokwa gore gongwe jaaka re ne re kopa, e re mo bogompienong, o bo o tsentse pego eo o leka go tlhalosetsa Batswana gore ba tle ba se ka ba tshaba go ya go tsaya booster ntateng ya kgang eo?

Kwa kgaolong ya me ya Takatokwane, ke kwa lehuma le tsaletseng teng, mme malatsi a, high blood le sukiri ga e sa tlhole e le bokwete jaaka re ne re itse pele.
E ganelela gone kwa bathong ba e ka sekang ya re le fa pilisi e seyo, a kgona go ya go e ithekela.

Plan ya ministry wa gago ka batho ba kgaolo ya Takatokwane go tswa fela kwa Tsetseng go ya go tsena kwa Kaudwane, dipilisi tsa sukiri le tsa madi a matona ga di yo, mme ga ba ka ke ba kgona go ya go di ithekela.
Plan ya ministry wa gago ke eng ka matshelo a batho ba Takatokwane mabapi le malwetse a ka gore, fa re ntse re utlwa, la re fa o kile wa simolola go nwa dipilisi tsa teng, fa o di emisa, go nna borai le go feta?

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR REGOENG: Tanki Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Tona, nte ke go leboge rra ka tiro e o e dirang mo go tsa botsogo, ke tsaya gore o e tshwere ka matsetseleko, re a go lebogisa, e bile re go eme nokeng.
Potso ya me e ne e le gore, ka gore re a itse gore bolwetse jwa COVID-19 bo amanngwa thata le serame, cold weather, ke go botse gore lephata la gago ka gore re setse ka kgwedi re bo re tsena mo marigeng, le ipaakantse go le kae gore bolwetse jo bo iphetolang jo, e bo e le gore fela fa bo kare bo a simolola gape, o tlaabo o ntse o le malala a laotswe?
Ya bobedi ke e e neng e buiwa ke Honourable Leuwe, ga se kwa Takatokwane fela rraetsho, dipilisi tse tsa bo high blood, diabeties, lefatshe lotlhe ga di yo, le kwa Molepolole tota ga di yo, mme e bile ba busowa kwa sepatela gatwe ba ye kwa private clinics or chemists.

Goromente o rulagantse go le kae gore a thuse batho ba e leng gore ga ba kgone ka dikgang tsone tse ka gore ba ne ba di tsaya mahala kwa sepatela?

Ke a leboga.
Ke a leboga.

MR RAMOGAPI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, go bo nteteletse, maranyane a ne a gana mongwame.

Ke go botsa ka bohetshwana Tona gore wa reng ka dipalo tse o di amogetseng tsa batho ba e leng gore mokento o ga o ba tseye sentle, kana ga o a ka wa ba tsaya sentle?

Bangwe ba ne ba latlhegelwa ke matshelo, ke tsaya gore o a itse.

Bangwe gompieno jaana ke banalebogole, ga ba kgone go tsholetsa matsogo fa e sale ba kentiwa.
A go na le lenaneo lengwe le o le akantseng gore o ka ba phimola dikeledi Tona batho ba sebopego sone se?

Potso ya me e khutshwanyane fela e kalo mongwame.

Ke a leboga.

MR NKAWANA: Ke a go leboga Mr Speaker.

Ke botse Tona gore mo ditshwetsong tsa gagwe jaaka Batlotlegi ba sa tswa go bua, a go na le sengwe se a se ithutileng, positive or negative, bogolo jang fa re lebile gore go na le batho ba ba amegileng?
Le gore a go na le sengwe gape se a se ithutileng mo tirisong ya melemo le melawana ya gagwe go kganela dithoto le batho go tsena mo Botswana ka mabaka one a bone bolwetse jo?

Ke e fa sekai, jaaka re ne re bona maloba batho ba boa kwa borders, re bona diteraka di ne di thatlagane di eme gotwe batho ba kentiwe against their will.
Gore a go na le sengwe se a se ithutileng, le gore fa e le gore se teng, a o tlaa simolola go baakanya gore dilo di tsamae ka fa go tshwanetseng ka teng go sa gatakiwe ditshwanelo sa setho?

Potso ya bofelo ke gore, ke utlwa a re molao o teng o o ka patikang Batswana gore fa ba sa rate go kentiwa, ba kentiwe.

Ke re a o a lemoga gore gone moo le gone go lwantshana le tsetlana nngwe ya Constitution ya lefatshe la Botswana?

Ke a leboga.
Ke a leboga.

DR DIKOLOTI: Nte ke go leboge Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke leboge Mapalamente ka kgang e ba e nkgwileng dikgaba.

Ke tsaya gore dipotso di ne di tsamaelana thata.

Kgang ya ga Honourable Leuwe e a neng a bua ka mokento gore kana re letse re araba potso mo Palamenteng, tota re ne re araba potso ka dikgang tsa gore re ne re kenta kwa borders, re kentile batho ba le kae, go fetile batho ba le kae, re dira jang fa go na le dikgang tsa gore motho a tlhoke go tsoga morago ga go kentiwa.
19 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT UPDATE ON COVID-19 PANDEMIC Ke re Mapalamente, ke batla go le kopa ka gore kana molao o o tsetseng BoMRA o dirilwe ke lona.

Go botlhokwa gore melao e re e dirang, re e itse, re e buise.

BoMRA kana molao wa Medicines and Related Substance Act, o o tsetseng BoMRA, is very clear.

Within BoMRA go clear gape.


Mo BoMRA re na le lekalana la Pharmacovigilance le le eteletsweng pele ke Dr Partha, le e leng gore mo go lone, le dira gore go nne motlhofo gore e seng ka mokento fela wa COVID-19, fa o dirisitse molemo mongwe o bo o sa go tseye sentle, o kgona to report.

Golo moo go botlhokwa go re thusa le rona re le babatlisisi, kana re le bongaka gore re kgone gore re buise dilo tse botoka.
So kgang e ka gore ke a e utlwa gore e a boelela, ke tlaa leka gore go ise go ye gope kana Palamente e ise e tswale, ke tle go buisa Palamente thata tota ka kgang ya adverse events following immunisation, ka gore mo go yone e tletse.
Gore le tlhaloganye le tle le ye go tlhalosetsa batho go feta, gape gore le se ka la tshosa batho ka gore golo mo go supa gore re le lefatshe, re kwa godimo mo go maswe ka gore fa o lebelela fela lefatshe lotlhe Honourable Leuwe, o ya go fitlhela e le gore ke rona ba re kwa godimo on reporting the adverse events following immunisation.

Golo mo go supa gore Batswana ba a rutega ka thulaganyo e. Ke sone se se botlhokwa thata.

We are above the limit that has been set by the World Health Organisation (WHO).
Golo mo go supa gore fa re ka tswelela re ntse re ruta batho, le lona le ba ruta, go ba kaela gore botlhokwa jwa mokento bo feta ditlamorago tse di ka tshokanang di go wetse, batho ba tlaa tsamaya ba ya go kenta.

Fa re ka e tshwaraganela, go sa nne le, nna ga di nkame wa tsone, ke a go bolelela nxu stru!

Batswana ba tla a ya go kenta, ba tlaa babalesega.

Mariga a re neng re bua ka one gore a e tla, a tlaa re fitlhela re ntse malala-a-laotswe.
Dikgang tsa melemo; go na le dikgang tse di farologanyeng tsa theko ya melemo.

Go na le mo gotweng micro procurement, mo go tlang go le very expensive to us as the Government, mme e le golo ga nama o thibile fela jaana.

O ntsha o bo o reka mo go leng teng gone foo.

Go bo go nna gore mme ka gore nama o thibile o a re turela, mo gongwe mo go fa gare, re ka kopa waivers tsa gore fa gongwe re ka neelwa yone melemo e mo lebakeng la bo six months.

Options tse pedi tse ga se options tse re di eletsang.
Option e e tshwanetseng ke ya tenders, framework contracts ka gore yone fa Honourable Tshere a neetswe contract ya dingwaga tse tharo go tlisa melemo ya Blood Pressure (BP), le kwa a e tsayang teng, go nna le proper planning ya gore go nne le production, delivery ya melemo e bo e nna teng.

Re ntse le matshwenyego mo dingwageng tse pedi tse di fetileng, gore thulaganyo ya framework contracts, e re e dirang re tshwaragane le ba Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Board (PPADB), go diragale.
Ke a le leboga Palamente e, ke leboga Puso ya ga Tautona Mokgweetsi Masisi gore a bo le fetotse molao wa theko.

Le ne le le teng le tlhophile ‘aye’, re fetolela go tla go thusa Batswana.

Golo moo ke selo se re tshwanetseng go ikopela legofi ka sone ka gore botshelo bo tlile go tokafala.

Re ne re beile Matona mo… MR SPEAKER: O tsholetse dinao Motlotlegi Tona, go na le se sengwe gape statement sa mokaulengwe wa gago.

Tsholetsa dinao o wetse.

DR DIKOLOTI: Tanki.


Ya dipilisi Rra Nkamo, tla ke dumalane gore ka gore ke rile fa Palamente e tswalwa, ke tlaa tla go e atolosa, ke e ala gore batlotlegi fa ba ya kwa dikgaolong, ba bo ba e tsaya e le mfago, ba ya go e bua, tla ke re ke ba utlwile, ba nkutlwile, re tlaa e atolosa go feta gore ke babalele nako.
Dipaakanyo tsa rona go ya marigeng, ke kgang e re e buang Honourable Regoeng gore re fefose gore batho ba tseye lemao la tlaleletso, re fefose gore ba ba sa ikentang, ba ikente.

E le tsela nngwe ya tse pedi tse di dirisiwang go laola manokonoko a go ka tsenwa kana go kganelwa go ka tsenwa ke mogare o. E le a pharmaceutical intervention.
Ke buile gore we have non-pharmaceutical interventions tse gompieno go neng go sena ope wa rona yo o solofelang gore re tlaabo re tsamaya re tsentse ditomo tsa Barolong kana dibipa melomo.

Gompieno re iphitlhela re le mo seemong se e leng gore ke tsela nngwe e re tshelang ka yone.

Re tshela ka sutelela koo, ka ditsela tse di farologanyeng tse o tlhapang diatla kgapetsakgapetsa kana you sanitise, e le tsela nngwe ya go laola kanamo ya mogare wa COVID-19.
Honourable Ramogapi o ne a bua ka kgang ya adverse effects.

Fa bo Speaker ba ka kgona go nna le tshono, ke dumela gore kgang ya effect or adverse event following immunisation, re tle go e atolosa le yone gore le tle le tlhaloganye Mapalamente, ka melao e lona le e fetisitseng gore le itse gore le fetise melao e e ntseng jang, e raya eng mo pabalelong ya Batswana morago ga gore ba kentiwe.
20 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT UPDATE ON COVID-19 PANDEMIC Honourable Nkawana o ne a bua ka the lessons learnt.

Ga ke itse gore a o ne o ntheeditse fa ke araba Honourable Tshere, Rre Nkawana.

Ke ne ke tlhalosa gore re na le lekalana la BoMRA le le tsetsweng ke Medicines and Related Substances Act, e le molao o o fetisitsweng ke Palamente e. Lekalana leo ke lone sefe (sieve) ya rona, ke lone le le tshwereng batlhalefi ba rona go netefatsa gore melemo e e tsenang kwano, ke ya tlhwatlhwa.
Yone melemo e gape e, fa re tshwanelwa ke gore re ka nna le mo gotweng booster jaaka re dirile, ba a lebelela, ba bo ba tlhotlha information ya teng, ba bo ba re bolelela gore mme wena Motlotlegi Nkawana fa o kentilwe ka Johnson and Johnson, morago ga dikgwedi tse tharo, booster gore masole a gago a mmele a kgone go go thusa go lwantshwa mogare o fa o ka tshokana o tsene mo go wena, o se ka wa iphitlhela o babaletswe ke manokonoko a gore o iphitlhele o le kwa sepatela.
Ga se dikgang tsa maikutlo a mongwe, ke dikgang tse di tlhotlhilweng le babatlisisi, ba bo ba netefatsa gore go ntse jalo.

Jaanong re le lefatshe, re tlisa dithulaganyo tse go sireletsa dikatlego tsa rona tse ke neng ke bua gore re mangwe a mafatshe a a palo potlana lefatshe lotlhe ka bophara, le e reng fa maina a bidiwa, go bo a kgonne go kenta, Botswana a bo a le mo teng.

Ke ka Batswana, ka pereko ya Batswana, ka tshwaragano ya rona, gore re bo re iphitlhetse re le gone fa re leng teng.
Le wena Rre Nkawana o le mo teng.

Jaanong kopo ya me ke gore tswelela o gase molaetsa oo gore kwa bofelong, Batswana ba babalesege.

Re ithutile eng go feta foo?

Ka Monday re tlaabo re ribolola, re kgaola ribbon ya kompone nngwe e e tlaabong e tla kwano, e tla go dira melemo ya COVID-19.

Go gontsintsi fela, mme mo gape go tla ka yone ketelelopele ya ga Tautona Mokgweetsi Masisi.
O ntse a tsamaya, a falala le lefatshe le lotlhe a batla babeeletsi, a batla gore jaaka a buile mo Tlhomo Ntšha, tsotlhe ditlhabatshe tse a di ipeileng pele, di diragale.

Re na le tumelo e e tletseng ya gore mo gotlhe fa go ka diragala, ruri molemo o tlaa re sala morago, lefatshe le le tlaa babalesega, re tlaa kgona gore re nne le botshelo le ledula fela le le tseneletseng.

Ke a go leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

MR MOSWAANE: Thank you Mr Speaker.


Ke ne ke re ke mmotse fela potso e khutshwane gore fa motho a lwala bolwetse jwa sukuri, mme a bo a tlhokafala ka ntata ya tlhaelo ya dipilisi, go kwalwa gotwe o bolailwe ke eng?

Thank you so much.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, ke kopa gore o arabe Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Takatokwane, he is not happy.

MR LEUWE: Yes, not at all.


Potso ya me ke gore a go na le ka fa go tlaa thusiwang ba ba tlhaelang go ithekela dipilisi ka teng kgotsa re itlhoboge, re tseye dikepu jaanong ka gore kwa kgaolong ya me, ga re kgone go ya go di ithekela le gone kwa di rekwang teng ga go yo?

Kgang ya gore we will be briefed e atololwa, I do not have any problem le yone.

A go na le plan ya go thusa ba Takatokwane ba ba senang… MR SPEAKER: You have made your point.

Thank you Honourable Member.


DR DIKOLOTI: Ke go leboge Honourable Leuwe.

Kana e rile ke re ke a di atolosa, Mr Speaker, a bo a re ke fefose dinao, ke bo ke re ka gore di dintsi, ke tlaa tla ke tla go le lekodisa go feta selekanyo.

Sengwe sa dilo tse di dirang re le Puso, ke gore re tlile go netefatsa gore lotlhe le nna le botsogo jo bo itekanetseng by 2036, mme re a itlama le mo Lekgotleng la Mafatshefatshe la Botsogo gore re tlaa dira jang go fitlhelela pitlhelelo eo.
Kwa Takatokwane go ntse go na le thulaganyo e re nang le yone fela ya go reka dipilisi kana melemo fa gongwe through our Central Medical Stores (CMS), re bo re e atolosa.

Gape o na le Coordinator, Mma Mosimanewakgosi, ke ene a okametseng kwa Molepolole, se re se dirang gompieno re le lephata, re ba neela madi.

Sengwe se ke ntseng ke bona gore ga se direge sentle, se ke tlaa se atolosang go feta ke gore ba communicate le lona, ba le bolelele gore go diragala eng, melemo e kwa kae, Batswana ba itse.
Gape le bone ka gore ba a itse gore melemo e mengwe e kwa kae, fa melemo e seyo kwa Takatokwane, e le teng kwa Letlhakeng, ba tseye melemo kwa Letlhakeng, e tle kwa Takatokwane.

Batswana ba kgone go babalesega ka gore ba a itse within their systems, they can check and tell gore melemo e kwa kae.
Go feta foo, re tlile to communicate kgang e botoka ya tomagano ya rona le Associated Fund Administrators (AFA), kana malwetse a re buang ka one a bo BP, a sukiri ke chronic illnesses tse o itseng gore motho o tshela ka tsone, mme re dira jang botoka.
Re rile re phatlalatsa go tsewa ga melemo kwa private pharmacies, mme sengwe se re a bong re se bua, ke batla gore re ye go se atolosa, ke gore batho ba itse gore mme tsone tseo di kwa kae, e bile gape re kgone to map better gore kwa Digawana, batho ba sukiri le high blood ba kae.
Go ka nna le pharmacy efe ka gore bangwe ba ba ka dirang pharmacies le bone they will see an opportunity in this, they will know gore kwa Letlhakeng le Takatokwane, go na le batho ba le kana, fa ke nna le pharmacy teng through this AFA programme 21 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT UPDATE ON COVID-19 PANDEMIC kana partnership le Ministry wa Health, ba tlaa kgona go bona dipilisi segautshwanyane.
E se mo Pusong fela, mme e ntse e le dingwe tsa ditsela tse di farologanyeng, tse re tlaa di dirang go bona gore melemo e nna teng kwa bathong.

Thulaganyo e re e atoloseditse kwa Molepolole, gape e kwa Lobatse.

Kana ga e a tshwanela go felela fela mo Molepolole.
Ke ne ke bua le mongwe wa bana ba gago kwa Kgaolong ya Takatokwane, a mpolelela gore o batla go leka go dira matlhale afe a gore e le ngwana wa Takatokwane, o netefatsa gore batsadi ba gagwe kwa kgaolong eo, ba a babalesega, ditlamelo di a ba atumela.

Jaanong baya mowa sentle fela Motlotlegi Leuwe, e tlaa re fa ke ntse ke le lekodisa beke e e tlang, ke bo ke go bolelela jaanong go feta jaaka o utlwa gompieno, nako e le teng go feta e ke e neetsweng.
lekang go se dira ke go netefatsa gore melemo e nna teng kwa bathong.

Re netefatse gore le melemo e ba ntseng ba e tlwaetse, re senke e e tshwanang le yone, mme e se ya leina leo.

Jaaka nna le Friction re le Batswana, mme Friction e le Friction ke le Edwin, rotlhe re le Batswana Omang e le sesupo tsa rona gore kwa bofelong batho ba kgone go bona melemo.

Sengwe sa dilo tse re tlaa di dirang go feta foo gape, ke go atolosa communication ya rona gore Batswana ba itse gore melemo e kwa kae.
Francistown ke lengwe la mafelo a e leng gore… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le kwala le re motho o bolailwe ke eng?

That is my question.

MR SPEAKER: Neela Minister chance a go arabe.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, o nna moleele o kare o araba Leuwe jaanong.

Honourable Moswaane, o bua dikgang tse di botlhoko, o di bua o di tlakisa.

MR SPEAKER: Please give the Minister a chance to respond to your question, please.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Do not ever, ga ke ise ke tlakise, ke motho wa sukiri, that is why I am asking.
Do not ever, o re ke a tlakisa please.

DR DIKOLOTI: Ke kopa o ntetlelele ke arabe.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ee, do not play around.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Honourable Moswaane.

DR DIKOLOTI: Ntetlelele ke arabe, ga o ka ke wa nthaya o re go kwalwe gotwe… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go tlakisa ke eng, o kare o tlile go tshamekela mo Palamenteng jaanong.

MR SPEAKER: Let us have order Honourable Moswaane.

DR DIKOLOTI: Tla ke go leboge Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.
Dikgang tse tsa gore o bo o tshela ka botlhoko, melemo e nna teng re go e neela, fa gongwe o bo o iphitlhela o le mo seemong se o felelang o tlamakanya gore melemo e mengwe, ka gore processes tse re ntseng re di sala morago go ntse le mathata a disruptions tsa deliveries, o dira jang wena gore melemo e felele e nna teng, ke mathata a re buileng gore a teng.

Re buile gore COVID-19 go fefoga ga yone e dirile gore bontsi jwa batho le ba ba neng ba sena malwetse ao, ba iphitlhele ba na le one.
Go raya gore go fetola le ka fa re neng re dirile our planning process ka teng.

Dikgang tse di botlhoko, ga di motlhofo mme se re MR MOSWAANE: Go straight to the point.

Thank you.

DR DIKOLOTI: Tla ke fetole Rre Moswaane jaana, Rre Moswaane, process e e leng teng mo dikgannyeng tsa botsogo, fa motho a tlhokafetse, gore o bolailwe ke eng e tla e le pego e e dirilweng ke Pathologists.
Ga gona gore ke ka go araba jang ka potso e o e mpotsang, ka gore e tla e le karabo e e supang gore mme motho yo o bolailwe ke eng, go dirilwe dipatlisiso go ya ka Pathologists.

Thank you Mr Speaker.

STATEMENT THE ONGOING 2022 POPULATION AND HOUSING CENSUS MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (MS SERAME): Thank you Mr Speaker… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Point of order.

MR SPEAKER: Nothing is out of order so far.

Honourable Minister, please present your statement.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: Okay, point of procedure.

MR SPEAKER: Please, give the Minister a chance Honourable Boko to present.

Honourable Minister, please go ahead, she is allowed by Standing Order 41.2 (a) (b) (c).

22 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT THE ONGOING 2022 POPULATION AND HOUSING CENSUS MS SERAME: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, ke kopa go baya Palamente e pele tekodiso ka palo ya batho e e tsweletseng, ke tlaa nna mokhutshwane.
Mr Speaker, ke kwadile statement sa me ka Sekgoa, I will share it le batlotlegi fa e le gore ga se ise se goroge kwa go bone, ke solofela gore se tlaa goroga mo nakong e khutshwane.

Ke kopa gore ke bue ka Setswana, gore ke soboke gangwefela.

Mr Speaker, jaaka ke ne ka tlhalosa mo nakong e e fetileng, e rile ka di 18 tsa March mo bekeng e re neng re tswa mo go yone ra simolola palo ya batho mo Botswana.
Census ya 2022 e re itseng gore e ka bo e ne e nnile ka 2021, mme ka mabaka a bolwetse ya simolola ka di 18 tsa March 2022 go fitlhelela di 31 tsa March 2022.

Mr Speaker, census ya gompieno e pharologanyo ka gore jaaka re kile ra bua mo nakong e e fetileng, re dirisa digital platforms kana maranyane, gona le dipampiri jaaka go ne go tlwaelesegile.

Ke la ntlha e dirwa ke Statistics Botswana, e ne e ntse e dirwa under lephata la Puso.
Se sengwe se se leng teng ke gore, re bona e dirwa ka nako e re sa e tlwaelang.

Mr Speaker, diphetogo tse di leng teng di raya gore le ka fa re e dirang ka teng go turunyana, mme se se botlhokwa le go feta ke gore re tlaa kgona go bona maduo a rona ka bofefo gona le jaaka go tlwaelesegile.

Go baakanyetsa palo e ya batho Mr Speaker, go ne ga thapiwa bangwe ba ba balang batho, ba tsena mo ithutuntshong go simolola ka di 1 go fitlhelela di 14 tsa ga March 2022.
E ne ya re fa ba sena go balwa, ba kgaoganngwa ka enumeration districts ka supervisors.

Fa go sena go dirwa jalo, mongwe le mongwe wa bone a lomaganngwa le maranyane a gagwe le supervisor wa gagwe.

Ke gore motho o lomaganngwa le tablet ya gagwe le supervisor ya gagwe jalojalo, go netefatsa gore fa re simolola thulaganyo eo e bo e tlhamaletse ba kgona go dira.
Mr Speaker, tekodiso e nngwe e ke batlang go e gatelela ke bolelela batlotlegi le Batswana ka kakaretso ke gore, e rile ka letsatsi la di 18 last week Friday ra kgona go simolola fela ka five districts.

Ka di 19 ra bo re simolodisa tse dingwe di le 15, tse dingwe tse 8 di bo di simolola ka di 20, tsa bofelo di ne tsa simolola ka di 21 le di 22 tsa March, this week.

Mr Speaker, nngwe ya dikgaolo tse di neng di amegile thata mo go diegeng mo e ne e le ya Kweneng East.
Ke yone nngwe ya tsa bofelo gore e simolole go bala batho kwa go yone.

Dingwe tsa dikgwetlho tse re neng re na le tsone Mr Speaker fa re simolola, e ne e le gore ka re dirisa maranyane, re tseye tablet re e lomaganye le yo o balang, re bo re lomaganya mmadi yoo le tablet ya gagwe le yo o eteletseng pele, re bo re lomaganya le kwa head office.

Se sengwe se se neng se le teng Mr Speaker, e ne e re ba ba balang batho ba sena go thapiwa ba bo ba tsena mo ithutuntshong.
Ba bo ba tsaya test go bona gore fa re ya kwa pele ga ba na go tloga ba re direla mathata fa ba tsena mo palong ya batho.

After testing them, ba bangwe ba tlaa feta, bangwe ba tlaa se ke ba fete.

Go bo go raya gore go tswa foo o tlhoka gore jaanong o boe o sekaseke dipalo tsa gago gape o bo o bona gore kwa go neng go tlhaela ke kae, o ba aba jang to cover mafelo a otlhe.

Se sengwe se se neng se le teng Mr Speaker, e ne e le transport.
Kana ba tsamaya ba tsena mo metseng, bontsi ke dikoloi, ke a itse gore go na le mafelo a a dirisang mekoro le dilo tse dingwe.

Go na le fa dikoloi di neng di sa lekana teng fa re setse re simolola, e le sengwe se se neng se diile.

Kwa dikoloi di neng di sa lekana teng Mr Speaker, kana gantsi re dirisa dikoloi tse dintsi tsa Puso, mme o ne o fitlhela tse dingwe di santse di le kwa Central Transport Organisation (CTO) di le ka fa tlase ga paakanyo e e tseneletseng.
Go na le kwa e leng gore ditsompelo tse ba di dirisang jaaka re ne re supile gore o se ka wa letlelela ope go tsena a sa apara sesupo sa gore ke wa census, delivery ya uniform le tse di tsamaelanang le tsone e ne ya nna bonya.

Tse dingwe di gorogile letsatsi pele ga go balwa, di goroga letsatsi pele ga go balwa mme di tshwanetse gore gape di tsamaye di kgaoganngwa Botswana yo otlhe, go raya gore di ya go diega gore di felele di goroga kwa mafelong a a farologanyeng.
Ke a di soboka Mr Speaker ka gore ga ke ka di tsaya district by district, Palamente e ka tswala ke ntse ke bua.

Jaanong ke a di soboka fela gore ke tle ke kope le batlotlegi gore tse di specific to your constituency re di tseye bilateral gore ke kgone go di tsaya.

Mr Speaker, e nngwe e ke neng ke batla go feta ka yone ke ya gore uniform, kwa bofelong tsotlhe di ne tsa goroga kwa di tshwanetseng go ya teng.
Kwa dikoloing sengwe se re neng ra se dira ke gore re ne ra lebelela gore e re fa re address shortage ya dikoloi re itse gore tsa ga Goromente tse dingwe di santse di diega, re bone le mo private sector gore re ka dira jang.

Re ne ra kgona go adima dikoloi mo private sector.


In addition, ra bona le gore re ka dirisa taxis, go na le kwa go neng ga dirisiwa taxis, se se botlhokwa ke gore fa motho a gologa from the taxi a bo a na le tsa itshupo gore ke tswa kwa census lekwalo la me ke le, Omang wa me ke o, a apere le uniform.

Ke raya gore ba se ka ba tla ba tsiediwa ke mongwe le mongwe a fologa from the taxi.
Sengwe se re neng ra se itemogela Mr Speaker fa re simolola e ya 23 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT THE ONGOING 2022 POPULATION AND HOUSING CENSUS taxis, bana ba rona ba Batswana, kana mo Botswana re batho ga ke itse gore ke ka re re dirilwe jang.

Go na le ba bangwe ba ba neng ba ipelaetsa go pagama taxis bone tota ba batla dikoloi tse di tshweu fela tsa Puso.

Legale kgwetlho eo Mr Speaker, e kare e wetse.


At the districts Mr Speaker, jaaka ke kile ka tlhalosa before botlhe ba ba eteletseng pele palo ya batho ke bo Molaodi.

Jalo he, ke bone ba dikgang tse tsotlhe letsatsi le letsatsi di gorogelang kwa go bone.

Ba bo ba itshwaraganya le rona re le ba Statistics Botswana le ba ministry go bona gore dikgwetlho tse di leng teng we address them.

Se sengwe ke the security.

Re a itse gore go na le dikgwetlho tsa gore bana ba rona ba ka tlhaselwa ke batho jalojalo.
Re dirisanya thata le ba Botswana Police Service (BPS) go bona gore we provide general security gore ba ba balang, ba bo ba babalesegile.

Fa o ntse o tsamaya jaana, o bona ba sepodise gore Batswana ba ikutlwe ba babalesegile.

Go bo go nna le gore, re etse tlhoko jang gore tse di dirwang di boammaaruri; go ne go na le bangwe ba ba neng ba na le matshwenyego a gore a mme batho ba tlaa balwa botlhe.

Ke dumela gore le bone gore fa ba badileng teng, go na le dipampitshana tse ba di bayang.
Mongwe o ne a re a Peggy ga a na go nna fa tlase ga setlhare a bo a kwala a re ke ne ke ile kwa jarateng ya ga Honourable Keorapetse, ke mmadile a ikwalela.

Se se diragalang ke gore, fa mmadi wa motho a tsenya information mo tablet ya gagwe, go setse go dirilwe gore le supervisor a kgone go bona.

Information e e tsenngwang e, letsatsi le letsatsi e a goroga kwa servers tsa rona tsa census.

Ke tlhalose gore go ne go na le dikgang di le mmalwa.
Tse dingwe di ne di tla kwa go nna Mr Speaker tse batho ba neng ba ipelaetsa gore a mme go balwa sentle.

Se se diretswe gore supervisor fa a bona sengwe se se mo fisang gone foo, a bue le mmadi wa motho a re, tablet ya gago e nthaya e re o kwa Phikwe mme information ya gago fa o e tsenya e nthaya e re o kwa Gaborone.

Ke eng fa tablet e nthaya e re o kwa Phikwe mme information e supa e le ya Gaborone?
Dilo tse tsotlhe tse di ne di direlwa gore re kgone gore information ya rona le fa re dirisa maranyane, e bo e babalesegile, e bile e na le boammaaruri.

Se sengwe Mr Speaker, information jaaka e tsena kwa server, re dirile tse di maleba tsa security ka yone gore e se ka ya nna mongwe le mongwe yo o nang le access to it.

Fa sengwe se diragala, re bo re itse gore re na le mabeelo a a fetang bongwefela kwa re ka bonang seo teng.
Kwa bofelong Mr Speaker, ke wetse ka gore palo ya batho e tsweletse, go ne go na le dikgwetlho, Mapalamente a a tlotlegang, Honourable Speaker le Batswana, re kopa maitshwarelo ka seo.

Ke le solofetsa gore dikgwetlho tsotlhe tse di neng di le teng, re ne ra itebaganya le tsone.

Ke le solofetsa gore go siame jaanong.

Gone jaaka re le batho, fa sengwe se ka nna teng, re tlaa tswelela re tsiboga ka nako.
Ke leboge babadi ba batho ba rona, ba ba supileng bopelotelele le gore dikgwetlho fa di le teng, ba se ka ba phuaganya.

Ke leboge thata boMolaodi ka ba eteletse pele tiro e e tonatona e, ba sepodise jaaka re thusana le bone le ba bangwe ba batsayakarolo ba ba farologanyeng mo Pusong le kwa ntle.

Ke bo ke leboge Batswana ba ba itetleletseng gore ba balwe.

Ke bo ke leboge le ba ba nnang mo Botswana ka gore go balwa Batswana le botlhe ba ba nnang mo Botswana.
Tsholofelo ya rona jaaka ke setse ke tlhalositse ke gore, palobatho e tlaa wela ka di 31.

Ba bangwe ba setse ba le very advanced, ba sale ba simolola ka di 18.

Fa ba bangwe ba fetsa, re tlaa tsaya ba ba feditseng re ya go tlatsa kwa e leng gore palobatho e ne ya simolola kwa morago.

Re tle re wetse tiro ka nako e re e beileng.

Se se botlhokwa ke gore results tsa rona e re ka May di bo di dule jaaka re solofeditse.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Minister.


This is a national occurrence, which you cannot turn a blind eye upon.

Honourable Minister, I am going to suggest that we take Honourable Members in batches of three like we did previously.

We are going to start with Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Selebi Phikwe Bophirima.

MR KEORAPETSE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Le rona Mapalamente re a leka go go thusa Tona mo tirong e e kanakana e o e tshwereng.
Le kwa dintshong just last week Saturday ke ne ke le kwa lesong at the Stance, mme nngwe ya dikitsiso tse ke neng ka di fetisa ke gore, Batswana ba dirisanye sentle le ba ba tlaabong ba bala batho.

Ke ba tsibosa gore ba tlaa ba lemoga ka tsela e e ntseng jang and they have to cooperate jang le bone.

Nngwe ya dikgang tse o kareng di a tshwenya di ka nna pedi.
Ya ntlha ke gore, re ntse re leletswa re le Mapalamente ke ba the Census Supervisors le enumerators go lebega e le gore ba re, they will be working long hours tsa bo 14 hours mme ga go tsamaelane le dikatso.

Jaanong ke ipotsa gore a ke kgang e e kileng ya goroga kwa go wena le gore le e rarabolotse ka tsela e e ntseng jang?

Ba Statistics Botswana ba ne ba ntsha mokwalo, mme fa re botsa bana ba ne ba re, it does not address matshwenyego a bone.

Ke santlha.
Ke santlha.

24 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT THE ONGOING 2022 POPULATION AND HOUSING CENSUS Sa bobedi, go na le memes which are circulating.

O ka di tsaya motlhofo mme le tsone fa gongwe di na le go itaya tsebe le go faposa mo go ka nnang ga felela go baka gore batho ba se ka ba letla gore ba balwe.
Go leka go hema seemo se, ke eng re sa dire standard questions, maybe I have missed it, tse di botswang di phatlaladiwe just so that Batswana are aware gore these are the kind of questions that will be asked.

Go tlaabo go na le a meme, e le motho wa palobatho a botsa gore go letse mang fa?

Jaanong o kare potso e, people feel gore it is uncomfortable.

E ka nna ya re fa babadi ba batho ba tla, motho a bo a itswalela mo ntlong.

Potso ke raya e le a meme.


Fa gongwe motho o tlaabo a botsa borraabo foo gore re tlaa go botsa dipotso, mme fale re letse re mmadile kwa kampeng ya sesole, ene re tlaa se ke re mo tsenye mo teng.

Kana rre fale re letse re mmadile kwa ga mmasemangmang, jaanong ene re tlaa se ke re mo tsenye mo teng, ke re tse di ka tsenya tsebetsebe.
Jaanong o ka dira gore go nne le video adds tse di supang quick questions tse di botswang kana a day pack flyer, kana jingle mo radio gore these are the standard questions tse le yang go di botswa, so, le se ka la tsenwa ke tsebetsebe.

Ke a leboga Honourable Minister.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Keorapetse, beautifully expressed.

MR LUCAS: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Ke botse Tona dipotso tse tharo from my brief experience mo Gaborone mo.

Ke ne ke le kwa Bophirima kwa tirong e tona eo.


Sa ntlha ke fitlhetse yo a balang batho a na le bothata jwa to deal le monalebogole yo o sa utlweng mo ditsebeng.

Ke dumela gore go na le banalebogole ba bangwe ba ba sa boneng fela jalo le tse dingwe.

Jaanong ke botsa gore a go na le thulaganyo epe e e faphegileng ya go leka go rutuntsha babadi ba batho ka go bereka le batho ba ba nang le bogole?
Sa bobedi, o fitlhela go na le seemo se babadi ba batho ba sa apara uniform mme ba supa gore ba neetswe e le nngwefela, go raya gore ba santse ba tlhatswitse e nngwe.

Ka nako eo, ba bala batho ba apere dikipa tsa bolo, fa gongwe tsa party fela jalo.

A mme dilo tse le di etse tlhoko batho betsho?

E nngwe ke ya dituelo e e neng e buiwa ke Honourable Keorapetse.

Go na le ngongorego Tona e e ka felelang e kgobile bana marapo.
Ba supa gore tse ba di solofeditsweng fa ba simolola, bogolo jang go neelwa letsenonyana la kwa training go diegile thata mo e leng gore ba babalelwa ke letšhono, mme fa gongwe ga ba nne tlhaga mo tirong.

A o a itse gore go na le tiego ya go duela bana ba dituelo tsa mofuta one oo motho wetsho?

Ke a leboga ka dipotso tse dikalonyana sir.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Acting Leader of the Opposition (LOO).

DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


Honourable Minister, ke ka tswa ke sa utlwa sengwe mabapi le gore sentlentle la re le dirisa dikoloi tse di tswang kae?

O tlhatswe kgang e ya gore go ka tswa go na le tsela nngwe e bangwe ba ba leng connected to the Botswana Democratic Party (BDP), ba feletseng ba fiwa tiro ya gore e nne bone ba ba ntshang dikoloi go ya go thusa mo tirong e?

A ko o e tlhatswe kgang eo Honourable Minister.

Ke a leboga.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, please respond.


I think they are three.

MS SERAME: Yes Mr Speaker, they are three.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Ke lebogele thata Honourable Keorapetse jaaka o buile.

Batlotlegi, ke a le leboga lotlhe.

Ba nna ba nteletsa ba ntekodisa Mr Speaker.

Tota ba re eme nokeng.

Ke a ba leboga.

Ke ba lebogele le boeteledipele.


Bontsi jwa rona e ne ya re fa re neng re na le dikgwetlho teng la ema ka dinao la supa gore le baeteledipele, la bua le bana ba rona ka go ne go na le bangwe ba ba neng ba batla go ba itaya tsebe, ba ba sotla.

Le ne la bua le bone le le botsadi gore bongwanaka, ntwakgolo ke ya molomo nnang fa fatshe le buisane.

Ke leboga thata.
Ke leboga thata.

Honourable Keorapetse, kgang ya working long hours ke tlaa e araba in general, but tse dingwe tse di batla re di tsaya bilateral, tse di specific.

Nako e e beilweng ya go bala batho Mr Speaker, ke yone eo ya 14 hours.

Mo 14 hours yoo go a bo go satwe o bereke 14 hours nonstop.

Go a bo go tewa gotwe within timeframe e e beilweng eo, o tlaa a bona gore o bereka mo teng.

Go na le dithulaganyo tsa bone tse ba di dirang.

I think e botoka ke e araba jalo.


Se sengwe se ke batlang go feta ka sone Honourable Keorapetse, Honourable Members le Mr Speaker, ke gone gore mo gongwe bana ba rona ba a tle ba iteege tsebe, ba ya go lebelela dilo tse dingwe tse e leng gore ga di mo tumalanong e ba nang le yone.
Fela ka bokhutshwane, dinako tse di neng di bewa, di ne di beelwa gore o itse gore yo mongwe… Fa re ka tloga ra re census e simolole ka half past seven to half past four, go ka re paledisa go bala batho mme fa re rile six, wena 25 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT THE ONGOING 2022 POPULATION AND HOUSING CENSUS fa e le gore o kgona go phakela o ya kwa go ba o ka ba fitlhelang ba ise ba ye tirong, o ka kgona go tsamaya ka six.
Ba bangwe o itse gore fa ke leng teng, ke ka ba bona ka bo five, e bo e le gore bokete jwa gago jwa go bala batho, bo ya go tsena ka bo five kana six.

Tota se ne se direlwa jalo Mr Speaker.

Mo gongwe go a tle go tlhoke fela gore re utlwane, re bo re tlhaloganyana re le Batswana.
Ya bobedi e Honourable Keorapetse a e buang; Honourable Keorapetse, e ntshwentse thata ka gore go na le memes Mr Speaker, tse e leng gore tse dingwe tota di itaya tsebe mme ke tlhalose gore there are standard questions and they were gazetted.

Ka go tlhoka lesego, kana ga se mongwe le mongwe yo o ka tswang a bone gazette ya teng.

Re di buisantse, ra bo ra dumalana le Statistics Botswana gore in addition, ba ye go boa and circulate so that Batswana ba itse gore tota mme dipotso ke eng.
They were to circulate them on all platforms tse ba ka kgonang, le jingles fa ba ka kgona ba di dire such that re ntshe bone botoutu jo e leng gore… Kana Batswana ba rata go tshameka le fa go sa tshamekegeng teng, gore botoutu jo jotlhe re bo ntshe mo teng.

Rre Lucas honourable wa me, thulaganyo ke gore re a itse gore go na le special needs jaaka… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Point of order Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Point of order, what is out of order Honourable Moswaane?

MR MOSWAANE: Point of order.


Mr Speaker, ke tsaya gore it is out of order gore e re re bua le Batswana mo ntlheng e e botlhokwatlhokwa, re bo re dirisa Tswan-lish ya gore re di jingle and circulate, Batswana ba sa utlwe gore gatwe eng mme e le bone batho ba ba amogelang.

A ko go dirisiwe Setswana se se phepa gore Batswana ba utlwe Mr Speaker.

I am sorry to say that.

Thank you.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Moswaane.

Honourable Minister, o mo utlule malomaago.

MS SERAME: Thank you Mr Speaker.


Dumela Honourable Moswaane, I missed you too.

Ke a go utlwa Honourable Moswaane, ke tlaa bua Setswana nkgonne, o intshwarele fa leleme le relela ke bua Serolong.

Se ke neng ke leka go se bua ka bokhutshwane e ne e le gore re tlaa boa re phatlalatsa gape dipotso tseo mo maranyaneng ka go farologana ga one gore Batswana ba itse gore tota mme dipotso tse di bodiwang ke dife.
Re tlaa dira le tsone dipapatso ka diromamowa, dipuisanyo le metshameko jaaka re a tle re dire gore Batswana ba itse dipotso tse di bodiwang, ba se ka ba itewa tsebe ke tse gotweng re go bala la bo five.

Ke ne ke setse ke re Honourable Lucas o ne a boditse ka gore mo gongwe go na le dikgwetlho.

Se se tshwanetseng gore se diragale, ke gakgamalela gore mmadi yoo o a bo a sa itse ka go reng.
Kwa ba tsenang teng go na le nngwe kgwetlho kana any special needs, ba tshwanetse gore ene le supervisor ya gagwe, ba itshwaraganye le ofisi ya ga Molaodi ka gore go na le thulaganyo ya gore ba thusiwa jang fa ba na le dikgwetlho tseo.

Tse dingwe kana ke puo ya gore mo gongwe motho a sa e tlhaloganyeng.

Go na le thulaganyo ya gore ba batlelwa yo o buang puo ya foo, kana fa e le ba sign language, thulaganyo ya gore ba batlelwa wa sign language gore ba tle ba ba thuse.
Le nthuse go phatlalatsa molaetsa o batlotlegi gore kwa go nang le dikgwetlho teng, ba bue le supervisors le ba Molaodi.

Le ene Molaodi fa go na le dikgwetlho, o itshwaraganya le Lephata la Statistics Botswana go bona gore re ba thusa jang.

E nngwe ke ya delays in payments.

Re lekile thata gore re thusane le ba ga Molaodi re dirisa dibanka tse di farologaneng gore bana ba duelwe ka nako mme ke e tsaya mofago motlotlegi wa me.
Re tlaa tswelela re ntse re thusana le ba ofisi ya ga Molaodi gore bana ba rona tota ba se ka ba tloga ba tlhoka le madi a go reka molora o o tlhapang.

Ya bofelo Honourable Gobotswang o ne a botsa gore gatwe ke bangwe who are linked to Domkrag.

Tota nako e nngwe le rata go bua di sele.

Dikoloi tse di leng teng which are hired Honourable Gobotswang, kana nako e nngwe batho ba ipuela fela.

Dikoloi tse di teng were hired kwa dikomponeng tse di hirisang dikoloi gale, bo Avis le tse dingwe tse di leng teng.
Ga ke itse ope legale, e gotweng dingwe di ne di tsewa kwa bathong ka gore ba tswa kwa phathing kana ba amana ka tsela nngwe le phathi e e busang.

Re ne re itebagantse le bone ba e leng gore gale ba adimisana dikoloi mme ke ne ke sa tswa go tlhalosa le gore Mr Speaker, re ne ra bo ra boa re bona gore le tsone taxis re ka di dirisa fa go kgonagalang teng, tse ke tsayang gore ke tsa Batswana, ga se tsa maDomkrag.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


HONOURABLE MEMBER: Tona, ke ne ke re e ya ba bangwe ba apere tsa Rollers, ba bangwe tsa… MS SERAME: Ya uniform Mr Speaker, fa e le gore go na le mongwe yo o filweng sekipara se le sengwefela, e tlaabo e le phoso kgotsa e ne e tsalwa ke gone gore 26 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT THE ONGOING 2022 POPULATION AND HOUSING CENSUS tse dingwe jaaka ke ne ke tlhalosa, di ne tsa diega go goroga.
Ka tshwanelo, ba tshwanetse gore ba bo ba na le tse e ka reng kamoso a fetola; ga e a tshwanela go nna nngwefela Mr Speaker.

Ke dumela gore re tlaa boa re tlhola gape gore mme jaanong seemo se boetse mo taolong.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR BROOKS: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke tsaya gore bontsi jwa tsone bo honourable ba di boditse.

E ke neng ke re ke tlhaloganye fela mo go yone mmaetsho le fa ke utlule o kare wa e tlhatswa, kana re bua ka dikgaolo tse e leng gore are far apart from each other.
Jaanong Kgalagadi South ka kwano, kana go simolotse moragorago, I think sentlentle fela go simolotswe beke e re leng mo go yone e. Jaanong ke ka go reng gongwe dikgaolo tse di kgakala tse le lemogang gore ga le ka ke la fitlhelela go thusa ka ba ba tswang kwa dikgaolong di sele, ke eng le sa oketse malatsi ao?

A malatsi ao a ka fa molaong gore ga re ka ke ra feta a re a beileng, in case go ka diragala gore go se ka ga fitlhelelwa palo ya batho?
Gape a go na le gore gongwe go ka dirwa jaaka ka kwa ditlhophong, go nne le mo go ka tweng supplementary registration that can take place after this one?

Ke tsone tse ke neng ke re ke go di botse.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you sir.

Honourable Member for Mahalapye East.

MR BOKO: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Tla ke go leboge Tona.


Tota dipotso tsa me o kare di setse di boditswe mme tse pedi, tse tharo ke tse ke ka di botsang Tona, mme e le kgakololo gore fa re simolola dikgang tse, go ne ga nna madubedube a bone ba ba yang go bala batho.

Ba ne ba leletsa Batlotlegi Mapalamente, re ne ra kopana le bone, bangwe ra ba emela ka fa semolaong ra kwala dikwalo re di kwalela kwa Statistics, le fa re filwe dikarabo tse di neng e se tsone.
Tona, ka le ne le ntse le bona gore bana ba na le dingongorego, le tsere nako e telele go ka tsibogela dilelo tsa bone.

Ga ke gakologelwe sentle gore a ke bangwe ba ba neng ba le kwa Travel Lodge kana kae, you intimidated them ka mapodise, la ba pateletsa go kwala tests ba santse ba na le dingongorego tsa gore ga re itumelele dikatso tse le batlang go re di neela.
Gongwe Tona o ka tswa o sa itse gore they were intimidated by the police, ke na le videos le sengwe le sengwe sa gore ba ne ba tshosediwa mme mo nakong e e tlang Tona, le dire go le botoka.

Number two ke gore ke bua le bone jaana ke bala.

Ba bangwe are expressing gore ga gona police visibility kwa ba leng teng, so ga ba a sireletsega mo go kalokalo.

One of them is saying on the ground police visibility is non-existent and enumerators are on their own.

Ke nngwe ya dilelo tse ba nang natso.


Number three e nna sone selelo sa tlala sa gore ga gona sepe that has been provided for lunch kana breakfast.

Le one madi ga ba a neelwa.

Gongwe o e tsibogela gore fa e le gore ba bua boammaaruri Tona, o thuse ka kgang e e ntseng jalo.

Ya boraro Tona, ke tshwenngwa ke mafoko a a reng motho o itlhophela gore o ka theogela nako mang mo 14 hours yoo, it cannot be.

Motho ga e ka ke ya re a filwe 14 hours, a bo a re ke tlaa theogela ka half past six kana seven.
Le tlaa itse jang gore mang o theogetse nako mang, jang jang?

It has to be standard, we should all agree gore re simolola ka half six, go tšhaisiwa ka half eight, e seng gotwe ene o na le discretion ya go bona gore o ka theogela ka nako mang.

Ga gona golo mo go ka nnang jalo Tona.

Ke ne ke re gongwe yone e le e baakanye ka gore bana ga ba ka ke ba theogela dinako tse di telele mme ga ba fiwe madi a overtime.
Ya bofelo Tona e se selelo, ga ke itse, ke raya gore le wena o ye go e lebelela because ke a bala gone fa.

Ba re bolelela Tona foo gore dikoloi di a tlhaela.

O tlhole foo Tona, ke a go balela.

Go raya gore fa dikoloi di tlhaela Tona, o e emele ka dinao kgang ya teng.

Other than that, bana ba ga ba itumela, so next time le dire dilo botoka go gaisa jaaka le di dirile mo nakong ya gompieno.

MR SPEAKER: Short and precise questions.

MR BOKO: We are not supposed to be seen exploiting bana ba Tona.
This is the service that we need and you have to give them enough money a a lekanang le tiro e ba e dirang, ba tsamaya mo letsatsing ba bala batho mo mafelong a mangwe a e leng gore they are not safe.

Ke a leboga Tona.

MR LEUWE: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke a leboga Tona, ke lebogela tlhaloso ya gago ka gore tse dingwe you have covered, tse bana ba neng ba ngongorega mo go rona ka tsone.

Ya 14 hours o e amile sentle ka botlalo, ke e tlhalogantse.
E ke santseng ke le bete se molangwana kay one ke kgang ya meputsonyana ya bone ka gore kana ba tswa mo seterateng, ba ntse ba sa bereke gotlhelelelele, ga go na sepe fela se a ka itshimololelang go reka phaletšhe le fa e le sone stove ka sone.

O kare go bonyanyana gore madi ao a goroge kwa go bone, o tsibogele selo seo Tona.

27 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT THE ONGOING 2022 POPULATION AND HOUSING CENSUS E nngwe Tona ke gore ke badilwe kwa lelwapeng la me ka Monday.
Fa ke tsile go balwa, ke ne ka lemoga gore go tsena mo lelwapeng le le lengwefela, motho wa teng o tsaya nako e ntsi thata, ga ke itse gore nako ya piloting le ne la bona a tsaya nako e kana ka eng?

Jaanong fa ke tsaya dipalo tsa batho ba ba balang mo motseng ke bo ke tsaya nako e e tserweng foo fa ke balwa, ke bona o kare two weeks wa teng o tsile go pala ka gore dipotso tsa teng di dintsi, tse dingwe di kgona go go palela.
Di sa go palele ka gore ga o di itse, e le gore o tshwanetse gore o botse motho mongwe sengwe golo gongwe, and ga se rotlhe ba o tlaa fitlhelang re na le megala ya gore Mma Leuwe fa a ne a tsoga a ntlogela foo ke ka kgona go mo leletsa ke mo raya ke re... Ke re gongwe le sekaseke le dinako tse le di fileng bana ba gore a mme re tlaa bala tota re ya go tsaya dipalo tse di tshwanetseng ka gore nna ke bone a tsaya 30 minutes mme ke tsaya gore ke araba ka bonako tota.
O ka ipotsa ka mogolo yo re tsayang gore o tshwanelwa ke gore a ikgakolole gore mmaagwe o sule jang jaaka ke ne ke lebetse gore mme o sule leng.

Ke dikgang tse ke bonang o kare di batla gore di elwe tlhoko thata gore re tle re tle ka dipalo tse e leng tsone tsa nnete tota.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke a leboga Tona.

MR SPEAKER: Gakere they are three?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, di pedi.

MR SPEAKER: Please go ahead and respond Honourable Minister, then we will go to the last three.
MS SERAME: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ee rra, tse dingwe di a tsamaelana.

Ke utlwile batlotlegi ka dituelo tsa bana tse di saletseng kwa morago.

Jaaka ke buisana le lona jaana, le bone ba Statistics Botswana ba reeditse.

Gape ke solofetse Mr Speaker gore almost on a daily basis, re nna re lekolana gore go tsamaya jang kwa ba leng teng, dikgwetlho tse di leng teng le go bona gore re ka thusana le bo Molaodi ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
E ya gore bana go a diega, re tlaa boa re boela kwa go yone ka gore re ne re tsaya gore kwa tshimologong e ne e ntse jalo re e baakantse.

Fa e le gore go santse go ntse jalo, re tlaa boa re bona gore re ka thusa jang.

Mma ke tlhatswe gape ya dikoloi le bodiredinyana jaaka ke ne ke tlhalositse gore go na le mafelo a a neng a simolola palo ka di 18 jaaka re ne re beile, mme a setse a le very advanced, a tsamaetse kwa pele thata, ba tloga ba fetsa.
Thulaganyo ke gore ba ba tlaa fetsang pele ga ba bangwe… kana le itse gore ga go lekanwe, kwa mafelong a mangwe gongwe o bala toropo fela e nnyennyane mme fa gongwe ke motse o monnyennyane.

Ba ba tlaa fetsang pele ga ba bangwe, ke gone mo re tlaabong re kgona go tsaya dikoloi tse di leng koo le babadi ba ba leng koo re bona gore re ka kgona go ba isa gongwe go ya go tlatsa ba ba leng teng go fefosa tiro gore re leke gore re wetse ka nako e re e beileng.
Gape ke tlhalose se, we have gazetted malatsi a go bala batho, mme letsatsi le letsatsi re nna fa fatshe re sekaseka gore re tsamaya jang, dikgwetlho di fa kae.

Le letsatsi la gompieno pele ga le phirima, ke tlaabo ke ntse fa fatshe le bone ke lekodisiwa gore re tsamaya fa kae.

Re tlaabo re lebeletse seemo Mr Speaker.


Fa go ka diragala sengwe se se ka patikang, tota mme ga ke batle re oketsa, mme fa go ka diragala sengwe se se ka patikang gore go okediwe re ka boa ra oketsa ka gore se se botlhokwa ke gore batho ba balwe, ba balwe botlhe re tle ka dipalo tse di boammaaruri.

E bile gape ke tlhalose gore nako e e beilweng lelwapa le lengwe go bala motho ke 30 minutes.

Re a itse gore dipotso di dintsi, re solofela gore ba tseye 30 minutes.
Fa motho a ka tsaya 50 minutes go ya go bala batho ba lelwapa leo, re tlaa nna le pelaelonyana, unless e le motho a le mongwefela mo teng ga lelwapa la teng, mme re beetswe 30 minutes.

Honourable Boko, ke di tshotse dikgwetlho tse o di buang.

Tse dingwe o ne o supa gore ga o dumalane le nna, le gone ke amogela gore ga o dumalane le nna.

Tse dingwe ke gore dikgwetlho di santse di le teng, re boe re tsenye leitlho gape tekodiso e re e lekodisiwang.
Mo gongwe re supervise le rona gore a mme fa go tilwe dikoloi di isitswe, a di isitswe le supervisors jalojalo.

Le yone ya gore mapodise ga a visible, tse tsotlhe Mr Speaker ke di tshotse re tlaa di buisana, re tlaa ya go buisana le batsayakarolo ra bona gore re ka thusa jang.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR GREEFF: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Ke ne ke re ke tsibose Tona kana ke mmotse gore is she aware gore kana go na le mafelo a mangwe, dipolase tse di nang le batho mo teng mme ga go tsenwe motlhofo?
Ba dirile thulaganyo e e ntseng jang gore ba kgone gore ba tsene mo teng ga dipolase tse jaaka tse di kwa Tuli Block le Ghanzi tse di nang le batho mo teng?

Ba dirile thulaganyo e e ntseng jang gore dipolase tsa go nna jalo ba letlelelwe gore ba tsene mo teng ba kgone go bala batho?

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

MR BALOPI: Mma ke go dumedise, ke dumedise Batswana, go setse go dumedisitswe, ke dumedise Tona.
Tota Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, 28 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT THE ONGOING 2022 POPULATION AND HOUSING CENSUS bontsi jwa dipotso le dikakgelo tse ke neng ke na le tsone, bakaulengwe ba setse ba di buile.

Mme ke ne ke batla gore ke iteele kobo moroko ke re go na le nako Tona e e leng gore gongwe re tshwanetse gore re e ele tlhoko le dipotso.
Gongwe sa ntlha ke bue gore go tshwanetse gore go tlhalosiwe gore fa go balwa batho, Batswana fela botlhe ba tlhaloganye ka gore fela jaaka Motlotlegi Rre Keorapetse a ne a bua, ke setse ke nnile le diphuthego di ka nna tharo mo dibekeng tse pedi tse di fetileng.
Batho ba ba neng ba kaya gore ke batho ba Gaborone ba tlhaloganya botoka gore dilo di a diragala, information e ntsi fa tlase ga bone, mme ba le bantsi ba ne ba botsa dipotso tse o neng o kgona go bona gore gongwe go tshwanetse gore go dirwe go le gontsi gore go tle go kgone go fitlhelelwa kwa go bone.

Kgang e nngwe ke dipotso tse di bodiwang.

Ba itse gore ga go badiwe fela motho jaaka o ka tsena mo jarateng o bo o re o bidiwa gotwe mang; 1, 2, 3, 4 ba bo ba emelela.
Ke eng dipotso tse di ntse jaaka di ntse?

Di batla gore di go thuse jang mo go reng o tle o kgone gore o ba tlhabolole le gore le fa o itse gore ba kae o itse gore ba na le ditumelo tse di ntseng jang, ba ka baakanyediwa jang, a ke balemibarui, a ga se balemi-barui jalojalo jaaka go ntse mo dipotsong?

Nna ke le nosi ke tsere 35 minutes, ke ntse ke le nosi fela, ke setse ke badilwe.

My son ka gore o ne a le teng, le ene o tsere about 30 minutes.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ao Mr Speaker, jaanong o lesa motho a address Palamente o ntse o re o short questions?

MR BALOPI: O fodile gakere jaanong, o kgona go botsa dipotso, go siame.

Mr Speaker, jaanong nna ke ne ke ... HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ngwana monna… kana ga o sa tlhole o le ngwana.

MR BALOPI: Gobotswang, o motona, a ko o nne o ithuta maitseo a mogolo.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O batla go ntlhokela maitseo Motlotlegi Balopi.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Fa o le ngwana o ngwana.


Ke a itse gore o mo mathateng.

Rre Makgophe o a go atumela, o a bo o tlile go re tlhomola pelo gone fa.

MR SPEAKER: Jeso yo o bonolo!

MR BALOPI: O ya go dira jang gore o tlhalosetse Batswana gore e re kwa bofelelong ba itse gore go diragala eng?
Potso ya bofelo ke gore nako e, e ke neng ke bua ka yone, o ya go dira jang gore e fokodiwe ka gore mmadi fa a sena go nna a go botsa potso, o kgona go go raya a re, “Rre Balopi, o tlaa intshwarela, e ke e botsa fela mme tota ke tlhaloganya gore ke e boditse ka tsela e e farologanyeng?” Sekai, “o tsene sekole go fitlhelela fa kae?” Fa a sena go go botsa jalo a bo a go botsa gore a o itse go kwala le go bala?

I am just giving an example Tona gore dilo tse le a go di tsibogela jang go ya kwa pele?
Ba diagelo ba tlaa siama, tanki.

MR TSHERE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.

Tona ke ne ke re ke go botse fa gore letsatsi after go simolodisiwa go bala batho, e ne ya re maphakela re bo re bona motho ka kwa masimong a rona ka kwa a tswa ka mantlheng a bo Kainawe, ke masimo le meraka gone kwa, a kaya e le gore o ne a ile go bala batho gone koo.

Re ne re kgona go lemoga gore ke motho yo o balang batho ka gore o ne a tshwere dipampiri tsa teng.
O ne a lebega a letse mo nageng ka fa a neng a bua ka teng, re ne ra felela re mo isa kwa police.

Jaanong potso ya me ke gore a le tsamaisa motho a le one go ya go botsolotsa jaaka o bua?

A le bona go siame gore batho ba tsamaye one-one, e seng fela ko sekgweng, le mo malwapeng fela jaana gore ba tsamaye one-one?

Ga o akanye gore go tshwanetse go tsamaye two-two gore ba tle ba kgone go utlwa, kana ditsebe fa gongwe ga di utlwile gongwe, gongwe ba utlwe ba le babedi go ne go ka tswa go le botoka?
That is the first question.

Second question, a le ba provide ka transport ka gore yo o ne a tsamaya ka dinao mme e bile a kaya a ne a tsamaya mo masimong le meraka a bala batho?

Jaanong a le ba fa transport batho ba mofuta oo kana go diragala eng gone foo?

Sa bofelo ke gore Tona a ko o tlhalosetse Batswana fela ka Setswana gore tota wena o solofetse eng mo go rona jaaka nna ke ise ke balwe jaana ke batla go balwa?
A ke nne ke go emela mo lelwapeng hoping gore o tlaa tla o mpala kana ke tswelele le ditiro tsa me fela as if ga ke itse gore o ya go tla leng, kana go diragala eng, ke ye go bolotsa, e tlaare fa ke tswa go bolotsa o bo o mpona o tla o mpala kana go diragala jang fela gore ke netefatse gore ke a go thusa gore ke kgone go balwa?

Ke a leboga.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Tshere.


Honourable Minister, ke kopa re tseye le mokaulengwe wa gago, ke ene wa bofelo, Motlotlegi Mothusa Tona wa Thuto go tswa kwa Moding, Honourable Makwinja.

29 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT THE ONGOING 2022 POPULATION AND HOUSING CENSUS HONOURABLE MEMBER: Government asks itself questions?

MR MOTAOSANE: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ga se Mma Makwinja, ke dirisa gadget ya gagwe mongwame.
Ke utlwa gore Honourable Leuwe o buile ka tse dingwe, mme ke botse gore a o re solofetsa gore bone kwa go a bong go sa simololwa sentle teng mo, a ga e nke e re ba felelwa ke nako, e bo go tloga gotwe ga ba okelediwe?

individual household ka bongwe ka bongwe, ba tsena ka dinao, mme fela ga re solofele gore jaaka re utlwa o re motho o ne a tswa ka motseng o mongwe a tsamaya ka dinao a ya kwa go o mongwe ka dinao.

Fa e le gore go na le seemo se se ntseng jalo, e tlaabo e ne e le mathata.
Ke diphoso tse tsalwang ke motho, mme ke a rapela batlotlegi, buisang le bana ba rona, supervisors le bo Molaodi, ba ele tlhoko bana ba rona le diemo tse di ntseng jalo, ga se tse di re isang kwa pele.
Sa bobedi, ke ntse ke utlwa a bua ka kgang ya gore bana ba bangwe fa ba fetsa kwa ba fetsang teng, ba ka isiwa golo ba ya go thusa teng, a a fa sekai ka metse e mebotlana, a mme ga gona go tsosa kgotlhang ya gore fa jaaka ba tswa koo, ba bo ba tshwanelwa ke gore ba duelwe madi a a extra a bo transport le accommodation?
Maabane jaana, bana ba ne ba lela ka gore o fitlhela motho a tswa fa Gabane, go bo gotwe o tswa kwa ntle, o rutuntshiwa kwa Mogoditshane, yo mongwe o tswa mo Mogoditshane Block 1, o palama taxi fela jaaka ene, ba palama the same thing.

O a bona?

Jaanong a go nke go tloge go tsose dikgotlhang gore o tseye batho kwa motsaneng o mongwe o ba ise kwa go o mongwe?

Ke a leboga Tona.

MS SERAME: Thank you Mr Speaker.

Ke leboge thata batlotlegi.


Honourable Greeff, kwa dipolaseng re ya fela jaaka kwa mafelong a mangwe e bo e re fa e le gore go na le bothata re bo re kopa thuso kwa go bo Molaodi kgotsa mo gongwe e le ba semolao.

Jaaka gompieno re digela beke re ntse re bala, ga re ise re nne le epe pego kana report ya gore go na le golo gongwe kwa batho ba ileng teng ba se ka ba kgona go bala.
Ke rotloetse babadi ba rona ba batho gore ope yo o ka nnang le kgwetlho ya go nna jalo, a a bolelele ba bolaodi ka gore ke bone ba leng foo go thusa gore re bone gore re ka thusa jang.

Census e go na le molao o o re fang dithata tsa gore re kgone go ya go tsena, mme tota Batswana re batho ba re dumelang mo puisanong.

Tota ke solofela ga ke tle go nna le bothata.

Honourable Balopi o ne a gatelela tse dingwe tse di builweng.
Honourable Balopi, jaaka ke ne ke tlhalosa, re tlaa boa gape re phatlalatsa gore dipotso di ntse jang le go tswelela re ntse re buisana le batho thata, kgotsa re oketse mo di radio stations le kae, re nna re e fa Batswana ka bonya ka bonya gore ba tshware gore tota re batla eng, e bile re boletsa go ya kae.

Honourable Tshere, mo a go buang ke ga difilimi.

Honourable Tshere, fa batho ba ya kwa motseng, ba a tsewa ba bewa foo, ba tsamaya ka koloi.
Go tsena mo Le gone motho ga a tshwanela go tswa a le mongwefela kwa motseng a ya kwa go o mongwe.

Ba tshwanetse go tsamaya ka setlhophanyana ka gore supervisor o tsamaya le bone ba le mmalwa, ba bo ba phatlalala ba tsena mo dijarateng tse di farologaneng.

Ka jalo, ga re solofele gore go nne jalo, mme ga go ntse jalo ke kopa maitshwarelo Batswana betsho, ke diphoso tse di tsalwang ke motho mme re tshwanetse re tle re di baakanye.
Ya bofelo ya ga Honourable Motaosane, kgangkgolo ke go buisana Honourable Motaosane.

E tlaa re fa re goroga koo, ke dumela gore re tlaa buisana, mme ga nna le ditumalano tse di siameng.

Ke dumela gore ga ba ka ke ba tsewa fela kwa motseng oo ba isiwa ko go o mongwe, go bo go sa fetoge sepe.

Go tshwanetse go nne le tumalano ya gore re a le tsaya mo motseng o re le isa kwa motseng ole, transport e ya go bereka jang, le tlaabo le tsewa le phakela kana go tlaabo go ntse jang.
Ke dipuisano tse ba tshwanetseng gore ba di buisane ka nako yone eo.

Mr Speaker, kwa bofelong ke leboge ke bo ke re batlotlegi, re lebeletse seemo.

Fa go nang le sepe se se tlaa patikang gore re oketse, re tlaa oketsa mme tsholofelo ya me ke gore e tlaa dira bojotlhe jwa rona gore tota re ye go goroga kwa re tshwanetseng go ya teng.

Go ne go bodiwa gotwe ke tshwanetse ke reng, a ke tshwanetse ke ba emele?

Nnyaa Honourable Tshere, tswelela fela le botshelo jwa gago.
Ke sone se o bonang re dira up to bo 8 p.m. gore fa e le gore wena o tsena mo lelwapeng ka six, ba go fitlhele mme gape fa ba ne ba tla, ba bo ba tla ba sa go fitlhele, o ya go fitlhela go na le sticker se se go bolelelang gore re ne re le fa, re tlaa boa re tla gape.

Le wena o bo o ka kgona go itshwaraganya le bone gore ba tle ka nako e e convenient to you ka gore tota ga re a tshwanela gore le wena re tsene ditiro tsa gago tsa letsatsi le letsatsi, re di tshwenye Mr Speaker.
Ka mafoko a a kalo, ke a leboga thata Mr Speaker.

Ke lebogile batlotlegi.

30 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022STATEMENT THE ONGOING 2022 POPULATION AND HOUSING CENSUS HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ya gore a ba bereka ba le babedi kana one-one?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Maranyane naare ga a ntshupe ka koo Mr Speaker ke sale ke tsholeditse?

MR SPEAKER: E tšhaile, Motlotlegi Mmaetsho o tsamaile.

Le gone re ka bolawa ke batho.

Thank you Honourable Minister.

Thank you.


MOTION FOR THE ADJOURNMENT-DEFINITE MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE Government Procurement or Tenders Funded by 2022/2023 Budget Motion (Resumed Debate) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

Honourable Members, the debate on this Motion is resuming and when the House adjourned on Friday last week, I had just ordered a division.

We are therefore resuming with a division to conclude on the Motion.

Tswelelang bongwanaka jaaka maloba le ne le tsweletse.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: You start afresh.

MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa Honourable Kapinga.

Ga re ka ke ra start afresh, re batla go dira Motions tse dingwe nnaka.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke raya voting.

MR SPEAKER: Kana maloba re ne re setse re tsweletse ka voting.

Ke dumela ba ne ba eme fa go Honourable Morwaeng, re simolola fa go ene.

Ke batla re wetse re tshware Motions tse pedi tse tharo re ise re tšhaise.

Tswelelang bongwanaka.
CLERK: MEMBER’S NAME Honourable Morwaeng Honourable Moswaane Honourable Motaosane Honourable Motsamai Honourable Mthimkhulu Honourable Mzwinila Honourable Nkawana Honourable Pule Honourable Rakgare Honourable Ramogapi Honourable Reatile Honourable Regoeng Honourable Saleshando Honourable Segokgo Honourable Serame Honourable Shamukuni Honourable Thiite AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ √ 31 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022MOTION FOR THE ADJOURNMENT-DEFINITE MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANC Honourable Dr Tshabang Honourable Tshere His Honour Tsogwane √ √ √ HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, ga re a tlhopha.
HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke ba ba neng ba seo last week.

MR SPEAKER: Re go biditse o seo.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, ntsha maduo, ga re ka ke ra boela kwa bathong ba ba neng ba seo.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Re neele tshono ya go tlhopha.

MR SPEAKER: Fa re bala o seo, o jelwe.

Order!

Order!

Here are the results of your voting: Absent 20, Abstain 0, the Noes 13, the Ayes 30.

That means the ‘Ayes’ have it.

Question put and agreed to.


GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion (Resumed Debate) MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order!

The debate on this Motion is resuming.

When the House adjourned last week Friday 11th March 2022, Honourable Keorapetse was on the floor debating, and he is left with five minutes 25 seconds.

MR KEORAPETSE (SELEBI PHIKWE WEST): Ke a go leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.
Ke ne ke eme e le gore ke ema nokeng Tshutiso e ya ga mokaulengwe Dr Kesitegile Gobotswang, Mopalamente wa Sefhare-Ramokgonami.

Ke lebeletse mabaka a ke setseng ke a buile gore e tlaabo e se tlholo ntšha gore go ka nna molao o o tshwananng le wa Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) o e leng gore go nna le a mandatory fee e e leng gore e tshwanetse gore e duelwe.
Ke file sekai ka gore fa o lebelela gompieno the rules in Section 135 on India’s Companies Act, e dira golo foo go le mandatory gore a certain turnover and profitability mo dikomponeng, go dirisiwe (spend) 2 per cent of the average net profit mo CSR.
Gompiemo kwa lefatsheng la Ghana, ba Chamber of Mines ba na le policy ya gore mo dikomponeng tsone tse di epang mekoti, go seegelwe ka fa thoko madi a a kanang ka US$1 out of every earning per ounce of gold le 1 per cent wa the net profit gore madi a a bo a lebagane le the communities tse ba leng mo go tsone.

Ke sone se Honourable Gobotswang a se buang.

Ga ke itse gore re tsiediwa ke eng ka molao o le o buang, o o sa tsamaelaneng le se Honourable Gobotswang a se buang.
Molao o le o buang o le reng ke wa Economic Inclusion ke gore la re go na le a clause ya CSR mo teng, ke go leka go latlha setšhaba ka gore gone fa santlha ga go na le fa e le targets tse o di buang gore go ka dirwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang.
Ke ne ke tlhalosa gore lefatshe la India e rile ka 1st April 2014 la tla ka molao one wa CSR o e leng gore it mandates the companies gore ba lebelele dikgang tsa bo environmental responsibility, ethical responsibility, philanthropic responsibility le economic responsibility.
Jaanong Honourable Gobotswang ene o bua gore a go nne a proportion of profits before tax tse e leng gore dikompone tse di epang ditswammung mo lefatsheng la Botswana, ba kgone gore ba thuse the communities tse e leng gore ba mo go tsone.

Sone se, ga go na le fa e le ka tsela epe e e leng gore se tlhalosiwa ke clause e bo Tona ba e buang ba re e mo molaong wa Economic Inclusion.
32 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion (Resumed Debate) Gape e bile Honourable Gobotswang ga se ene a nang le kakanyo e fela a le nosi.

Fa o lebelela mo Page 5 ya Order Paper ya letsatsileno, Motion Number 16 ke wa ga Honourable Mangwegape-Healy, Member for Gaborone Central.
A re “That this Honourable House resolves to enact a Corporate Social Responsibility legislation, to ensure companies interests are not only limited to its shareholders, customers and employees, but also to their local community and environment in which they operate.” Ke Order Paper ya letsatsi leno.

Mo Domkrag yo e leng ene tota yo o mo Palamenteng ya gompieno ya bo 12, fa go tla one Motion wa ga Honourable Healy, nnyaa ga a ka ke a nna le mathata a gore o ka feta.
The objectives tsa Motion o e ntse ke tsa wa ga Honourable Gobotswang, mme one ke o o specific ka gore the mainstay of this economy has been for many years extraction industry.

Extraction industry e, the communities tse dintsintsi tse go nang le meepo, a o ya kwa Lerala kwa go neng go epiwa diteemane o ye go bona matlhotlhapelo a lehuma.
A o ya kwa mafelong a mabapi a a dikologileng Orapa, kwa dikgaolong tsa bo Mothusa Tautona, go santse go nowa metsi a a nkgang sebodu, kwa dikgaolong tsa bo Honourable Lelatisitswe.

Fa o re o lebelela matshelo a batho gore a ntse jang gone koo.

Fa o re o ya kwa Jwaneng-Mabutsane, dikgaolo tseo tse go nang le one of the most precious mines in the world, o bo o re o lebelela lehuma la nta ya tlhogo mo dikgaolong tseo.
Honourable Gobotswang ga a re ditswammung tsa lefatshe la Botswana di benefit batho ba di tswang kwa go bone fela.

Ga a rialo, e bile ntlha e o e tlhalositse, ka bo ka e latedisa ka clarification.

A re a ba go epiwang ditswammung mo go bone, ba ungwelwe ka lenaneo lone la Corporate Social Responsibility le bontlha bongwe jwa dipoelo, bo tlaa tsenang mo go bone le jone bo ba godisa.
Jaanong fa o re bolelela ka bo targeted citizens gore gatwe molao wa Economic Inclusion o bua ka bone, molao o le maDomkrag a mangwe ba neng ba le clear gore this law is very vague.

O vague mo e leng gore ga re itse gore mme gatwe o ya go simolodisiwa (implemented) ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

E bile Honourable Letsholo o ne a santse e tlisitse Motion gone fa o o lekang gore go ye go simolodisiwa, o patagane le Public Procurement Act.
Jaanong rona ra re come up with a specific law on Corporate Social Responsibility o o yang to address communities which extraction industries ba epang ditswammung mo go bone ka gore ba sala ka mahuti, ditlamorago tsa tikologo e kgotlelesegang.

Fa o re o ya go lebelela matlhotlhapelo a a kwa toropong ya Selebi Phikwe a a dirilweng ke moepo wa BCL, o re o lebelela dimela tse di mo tikologong eo, batho ba ba setseng ka mokowa a e leng gore were exacerbated by the sulphur dioxide e neng e tswa koo.
O re o lebelela ditlamorago tsa meepo ka go farologana fela, e e dirwang mo lefatsheng la Botswana, o bo o lebelela communities tseo.

Fa o re o a lebelela gompieno, kana kompone ya De Beers e ka kgona go dira a dual carriage e e tswang mo Gaborone e ya go tsena kwa Jwaneng le go feta kana mo Trans Kalahari, but they will rather donate madi kwa South Africa, a a fetang bo one billion, jaaka ba dirile mo the Solidarity Fund ya COVID.
Ba donate one billion, mme e le gore mo diteemaneng di le pedi mo go tse tharo, di tswa mo lefatsheng la Botswana di le mo value chain ya De Beers, mme e bile ba ka mpa ba donate kwa South Africa.

Jaanong ke ne ke re Corporate Social Responsibility, a e patikiwe ka molao jaaka re bone ba bangwe kwa mafatsheng a sele ba dira.

Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, mme e bile ke ema nokeng Honourable Dr Kesitegile Gobotswang.

MR LUCAS (BOBONONG): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente.
Ke batla go leboga thata Honourable Dr Gobotswang gore a bo a tlile ka mogopolo wa gore go nne le lekgetho le ba le bitsang Corporate Social Responsibility Law gore mafelo a go epiwang ditswammung mo go one, a kgone go ungwelwa, ka gore ditswammung di epiwa mo go one.
Rre Gobotswang, ga go na meepo kwa Sefhare- Ramokgonami, mme e bile le fa go ntse jalo, ga go a go kganela gore o kgone go buelela dikgaolo tse go nang le meepo mo go tsone, tse di tshwanang le tsa bo Orapa, Letlhakane, Rakops, Sese le Mabutsane.

Gone moo, ke gone go supa boeteledipele rraetsho, gore ga o re ke buelela Kgaolo ya Sefhare-Ramokgonami, o lemoga ka fa meepo e e direlang batho ba ba tshelang fa e epiwang teng, mathata ka teng.
Wa re ka go rialo, batho bao le bone ba tshwanetse go ja sengwe mo meepong yone eo.

Fa o lebelela mafelo a mantsi a go epiwang diteemane kana kopore mo go one, o fitlhela e le gore batho ba ba gaufi le mafelo ao, lehuma la bone le kwa godimo fela thata.
Fa o tsaya mafelo a tshwana le bo Letlhakane, o fitlhela e le gore fa o tshwantshanya lehuma la Letlhakane le la Orapa, o fitlhela e le gore le bone ba gompieno jaana e leng baeteledipele ba rona, ba setse ba bifela le gone go nna kwa bo Letlhakane le Rakops, jaanong ba nna gone kwa Orapa, ka gore ene o tlhabologile go gaisa bo Letlhakane.
Fa o tsaya mafelo a tshwana le bo Selebi Phikwe, o tlaa fitlhela e le gore le gone go na 33 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion (Resumed Debate) le bothata fela jo bo gakgamatsang.

One moepo oo, o feletse o amile batho jaaka Honourable Dithapelo a ne a bua ka yone sulphur dioxide e e neng ya ama le dimela tse di mo tikologong.
E seng gone foo fela, leswe le le tswang mo moepong yone e, le ne la kgona go tsena mo nokeng ya Motloutse, la tsamaya le yone, fa go setse go tlhatlhobiwa metsi mo Motloutse kwa mafelong a tshwana le bo Bobonong, o fitlhela e le gore metsi ao a amilwe ke leswe le le tswang mo moepong o. Golo fa go tshwanetse go elwa tlhoko thata gore batho ba ba amilweng ka ditsela tsone tseo, ka tsela nngwe fela ba ja sengwe mo meepong e re buang ka yone.
Fa o re o a lebelela gape mo mafelong a tshwana le bo Letlhakane le Sese ka fa side ya Jwaneng, o fitlhela e le gore go na le population explosion.

O fitlhela e le gore batho ka ba ne ba latela meepo eo, go na le kgolo ya batho e e kwa godimo fela thata.

Puso yone e sa kgone go itepatepanya le go isa ditlamelo kwa mafelong a a tshwanang le one eo.
Fa o tsaya lefelo le tshwana le Letlhakane, o fitlhela e le gore le yone sewage tota, ke ne ke bua le bangwe ba kwa Letlhakane ba re ga ba itse gore ba latlhele kae sewage, bogolo jang ba madirelo a a ikemetseng ba dibara, ba eng.

E le gore go ntse jalo, ba bapile le matshebetshebe a madi a a tswang mo mafelong a a tshwanang le bo Orapa.

Golo mo go tshwanetse gore go elwe tlhoko.


Le ene Rre Lelatisitswe, o e tle a bue gore gone kwa bo Letlhakane, population ya teng e gola ka sepiti, mme go sena thulaganyo ya gore batho ba abelwe ditsha, go tsamaelana le kgolo eo ya population.

Fela jalo le kwa bo Sese, ke tsaya gore go ntse jalo.

Fa go ne go na le Corporate Social Responsibility Law, mangwe a madi a a ne a ka dirisiwa to service ditsha mo mafelong one a a over populated ka gore batho ba ne ba latile meepo yone eo.
E le gore gantsi fa gongwe le gone go bona ditiro koo ga ba di bone.

Re tshwanetse go dumalana le Honourable Gobotswang gore go nne le molao o o tlhamaletseng, o itebagantse fela thata le mafelo a a dikologilweng ke mafelo a meepo.

Jaanong go na le kgang e e buegang e e tlileng ka Rre Molebatsi, o lebelela molao wa Economic Inclusion, a tsaya some very vague laws mo teng a re golo mo re setse re go dira re le Puso.
Nnyaa, ga le go dire le le Puso, Rre Gobotswang is very specific a re re tshwanetse go itebaganya le mafelo a a dikologilweng ke meepo ka gore a na le mathata a a sa tshwaneng le mafelo a mangwe.

Ga o ka ke wa address mathata a teng ka a general Clause e e bonwang mo molaong wa Economic Inclusion.

Re tshwanetse ra itebaganya thata le molao o tota o lebaganyeng le mafelo a ke ntseng ke bua ka one.

Le bone ba ba tswang kwa mafelong ao go a gakgamatsa.
Go a gakgamatsa gore bo Rre Lelatisitswe le Mothusa Tautona, ba bo ba sa tlolele molao one o, ba supa gore tota ke one o ka thusang mafelo a tshwana le bo Khwee, Letlhakane, Rakops le Mopipi.

Ba ne ba tshwanetse gore e nne bone ba ntlha mo line ka gore bone ba amega go gaisa mongwe le mongwe.

Jaanong ba itshwarelela ka molao o e seng wa sepe, o le maloba le bone maDomkrag tota, bo Honourable Healy, ba ne ba sa dumalane le one.
Honourable Gobotswang o bua ka a specific law e e itebagantseng le mafelo a a amegileng a tshwana le bo Mmadinare.

Lefelo le tshwana Mmadinare, le ne le tshwanetse gore le ka bo le ne le na le go ungwelwa mo go tseneletseng ka gore go tla ga moepo mo Selebi Phikwe, go ne ga ama batho ba Mmadinare, ga ba tseela masimo.

Batho ba bangwe ba sala go sena fa ba lemang teng, gompieno le tlala e tsene ka one mabaka ao.
Go a gakgamatsa gore batho ba tshwana le Honourable Molebatsi, o tla ka molao wa Economic Inclusion o rotlhe re itseng gore ga o ka ke wa itebaganya le dikgang tse di tlang ka Dr Gobotswang, tse a reng a re itebaganyeng le mafelo a a dikologileng fa go epiwang teng.

Bona mafelo a mangwe a tshwana le bo Mahalapye, ka motlhaba fela, o a epiwa koo, fa o re o lebelela noka ya Mahalapye, o fitlhela e kete e rathilwe ke tladi, ga e sa tlhole e na le motlhaba gotlhelele.
Fa o re o lebelela gone kwa ke tswang teng kwa Bobirwa, baepi ba motlhaba, noka ya rona ya Motloutse e setse e simolola go mela ditlhare fa gare ka gore go epiwa motlhaba ka lebelo le le kwa godimo.

Bone batho ba ba tswang mo kgaolong yone e ya Bobirwa, o fitlhela ba sa bone maduo ape a a itebagantseng le bone, ba e leng gore motlhaba o o epiwa mo go bone.
Seemo se re tshwanetse ra se ela tlhoko, e bile ra dumalana le mogopolo o. Ke laletsa ba ba tswang mo dikgaolong tse di a amegang di tshwanang Letlhakane, Rraetsho Lelatisitswe le Vice President (VP) Slumber Tsogwane gore, a re dumalaneng le mogopolo o gore batho ba dikgaolo tse le tswang kwa go tsone, le bone ba kgone go ungwelwa ke gore meepo e fa go bone.
Kana jaanong fa o re o a lebelela mo dikgaolong tsele, fa o batla go bona dipharologano tse ditona mo gare ga bahumi le bahumanegi, o bo o ya mo dikgaolong tsele.

O tlaa fitlhela bahumi ba batona ba kwa Orapa, bahumanegi ba ba kwa tengteng ba kwa Letlhakane.
Gone moo go bo go go supegetsa gore inequality e re buang ka yone, e re re lelang ka yone nako le nako re re dipharologanyo tsa bahumi le 34 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion (Resumed Debate) bahumanegi di kwa godimo.

Lengwe la mafelo a e leng sekai sa dipharologanyo tseo ke Boteti, kwa go nang le Orapa fale, madi a a dirwa, mme go bo go nna le mafelo a metseselegae a tlala le lehuma di kwa godimo.
Ke gore setshwantsho sa dipharologanyo tsa bahumi le bahumanegi, se ne se ka fokodiwa ke molao o tshwana o.

Re gakgamatswa ke gore ba ba a amegang tota, o kare ba saletse kwa morago.

Dr Gobotswang o bua gore, go tshwanetse ga nna le seelo se se bewang, sa gore go kgethisiwe bokae jwa profits tsa dikompone tseo tsa meepo.

Molao o go buiwang ka one o wa Economic Inclusion Act, gotlhelele o didimetse fela, o tsididi fela.
O a bona gore ke molao o o neng o dirwa ka go latlhelelwa, ka go baya batho bobi mo matlhong, gore go tshwaiwe box gore re na le molao o o itebagantseng le dikgang tsa go nna jalo.

Batho betsho, lona ba le amegang, ee ke a utlwa ba bangwe kwa go senang meepo teng gongwe ga le tlhaloganye bothata.

Ba go nang le meepo kwa go bone, ba tshwanetse ba tlhaloganye bothata jo.

E re fa re tsaya podi motlhala gompieno, re bo re lebile thata Honourable Lelatisitswe le His Honour the VP.
Re ba lebe thata re utlwe gore, a mme ba re ba ya go bua kgang e e reng lekgetho leo ga le tlhokafale le le ka tlhabololang batho ba ba amilweng ke meepo jalo.

Batho ba ba tswang mo dikgaolong tse di amegileng, re solofela gore gompieno re tlaa beela sephathi kwa thoko, re bo re lebagana fela le gore mogopolo o o montle thata o o tsisitsweng ke Honourable Gobotswang, a sa dire lefufa la gore ka kwa Tswapong le Sefhare-Ramokgonami ga gona moepo.
A dira lerato mo Batswaneng la gore, o a lemoga gore kwa meepo e leng teng batho bao ba tlhoka thuso e e feteletseng, gongwe e bile e e fetang ya batho ba go se nang meepo kwa go bone.

Ke a le laletsa lona ba le amegang gore fa re ya go tlhopha, re tlhophe mmogo, batho ba tlaabo ba le reeditse kwa bo Boteti.
Morago fa re sena go phatlalala maloba ka Labotlhano yo o fetileng, ke ne ke leletswa ke batho ba le kwa Letlhakane, ba letsa ba le kwa bo Rakops ba re naare kante jaanong ke eng ba ba tswang kwano ba lebega e le bone ba ba sa rotloetseng mogopolo o, ka gore mogopolo o o tlhamaletse.

Rre Gobotswang, batho ba ratile mogopolo o thata mo lefatsheng la Botswana, bogolo jang ba ba bapileng le mafelo a meepo.

Mogopolo o ke o atla go menagane gantsintsi, e bile ke solofela kemonokeng ya ba bangwe mo go one.
Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo.

MR TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente mo tshokologong eno.

Le nna ke emelelela gore ke eme nokeng mogopolo o wa ga Honourable Gobotswanag, gore go tlame ka fa tlase ga molao gore Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) e dirwe, bogolo jang mo meepong jaaka Honourable Lucas a bua mo Mahalapye re amiwa ke dikgang tsa mining thata.
Se ke se lebogelang ke gore, e tlaa fa seelo sa gore CSR e dirwe jang, jaaka a bua gore e tshwanetse e tswe mo percentage ya profits tse o di dirileng.

Go raya gore molao o ka tswa o tla o tlhalosa gore, fa gotwe o dirile CSR go tewa o ntshitse bokae ka tsela e e ntseng jang.

Gompieno fa ke botsa ba bangwe mo Mahalapye ba ba dirang mining, ke ba botsa gore a le atle le dire CSR, ba diteraka tse di tletseng fa tse di tsenang fa.
Mongwe wa bone o ne a mpolelela ngwaga o o fetileng a ntlhaya a re, “ee re dira CSR.” Ke a mmotsa gore o dirile eng?
O nthaya a re, “nnyaa re diretse mongwe wa monni wa Mahalapye garden ya merogo.” Le mo diretse garden ya merogo, “ee, re mo lemetse jalo re bo re mo rekela JoJo gore a gelele metsi a bo a tshela vegetable garden.” Ke a mmotsa gore, “a o raya gore motlhaba o le o tsayang ka bokete jo bo kana mo Mahalapye, CSR ya lona e ka nna go dira vegetable garden, e bo e le gone jaaka e le gore jaanong le thusitse batho ba ba nnang mo kgaolong eo.” Ke leka go tlhalosa gore o kgona go bona gore CSR, we need a law e e ka re fang tsela ya gore re dire jang.
Fa e seng jalo, mongwe le mongwe CSR mo go bone go raya a different thing.

Ke rata mogopolo o thata ka gore, it addresses kgang ya rehabilitation.

Ka madi a re a tsayang a, re tle re kgone to mitigate, re kgone go baakanya dikgang tse ba di dirileng.
Tla ke go fe sekai mo Mahalapye mo; kwa ntle fela ga noka ya Mahalapye gompieno jaana e Motion wa teng o santseng o le mo tseleng, o etla mo Ntlong e ya Palamente e, o ka ya go bona gore kana ga se motlhaba fela o o epiwang mo motseng wa Mahalapye, ba epa le concrete le gravel, gravel e e epiwang mo letshitshing la noka.

Fa e epiwa jalo, kana e oketsa noka.

Noka ya Mahalapye jaana e a oketsega, e latla batho, e ya fa dijarateng tsa batho.
Noka ya Mahalapye e tletse ditlhare, mo e leng gore fa noka e ka tlala ka mokgwa o e teng e tlale ka teng, re ka nna ra bona noka e simolola go tsamaya mo lefelong le e neng e sa tsamaye mo go yone.

O ka itse gore noka ya Mahalapye, batho ba Mahalapye ba nna fa tlase ga yone thata.

Jaanong re tsaya gore fa mogopolo o o ka atlega, e kare ba ba dirang metlhaba e bo ba kgona gore ba lefisiwe sengwe se e leng lekgetho la CSR.
Re tle go dira ditena mo letshitshing la noka re age ridges tse di ka se ke tsa expander Mr Speaker, mo 35 Hansard No 205Friday 25th March, 2022GOVERNMENT TO INTRODUCE A MANDATORY CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW (CSR) Motion (Resumed Debate) Jaanong beke e e tlang Mr Speaker, ke tlaabo ke le mo laeneng.

Mma ke kope jaaka o kopile Mr Speaker gore Ntlo e, e tle e tswale gone fa batlotlegi ba ye go ikhutsa.
BoHikuama ba ye go tlhaelela mo Rakops ka gore kwa dikgaolong tsa bone go kgakala, ga ba ka ke ba goroga.

Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Question put and agreed to.

The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 12:33 p.m. until Monday 28th March, 2022 at 2:00 p.m. go tlhokang madi a mantsi gore re kgone go tshegetsa gore go se ka ga nna le soil erosion e ntsintsi fa pula e ntse e na.

Gompieno re na le letamo ka fa Parwe kafa, le le saleng le dirwa bogologolo.
Le dirilwe ka nako ya tsela ya Shoshong e dirwa, ba ne ba tsaya gravel gone foo, ba ne ba le tlogela gone foo.

Ga gona le fa e le rehabilitation e e kileng ya dirwa.

Jaanong letamo leo le dira mathata mo motseng wa Mahalapye, ke lone le e reng fa le tlala kwa, ka gore metsi a a tswang kwa godimo kwa a tsena mo go lone, le gogola motse wa Mahalapye ka tsela e ntseng jalo.
Jaanong madi a Honourable Dr Gobotswang a buang ka one, a tlaa re thusa mo kgannyeng e. A tlaa re thusa gape le kwa Fowler, go na le lefelo le bitswa Fowler mo Mahalapye.

O tlaa itse gore ke kompone e e neng e dira A1, over 30 to 40 years ago.

Mosima wa teng o santse o ntse o le teng mo Mahalapye.

Re lekile go o katela mo dingwageng tse di fetileng, go tsaya lebaka go dira rehabilitation ya mofuta o fa go setse go epilwe jaana.

O ne o le diphatsa bogologolo fa re santse re gola.
Batho ba tlhokafaletse mo go one, ka gore o fa gare ga motse.

E ne e le gravel ya kompone ya Fowler.

Jaanong mokoti wa bone gone fa le one o bitswa Fowler, ka gore re ne re tlhola re bona dikoloi tsa Fowler di tla go tsaya gone fa.

Ke ema nokeng mogopolo o thata gore, go nne le makgetho a mo dikomponeng tse di epang gore re kgone re tle re je sengwe rona, go kgone to be rehabilitated.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

Order, Honourable Tshere!

MR TSHERE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.


MR SPEAKER: E tlaa re o eletsa go ja sengwe jalo, o se tshware fela selo se.

Next Friday ke tlaa go letlelela o se ja.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Members, I wish all of you a trouble free weekend, including my beloved and dearest Member of Parliament (MP) Honourable Hikuama.

I shall now call upon His Honour the Vice President to move a Motion of adjournment.
MOTION ADJOURNMENT LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

Mr Speaker, ke tsaya gore o bona letsogo la me.

Ke tlaabo ke tla ke tswelela ke araba magatwegatwe a a buiwang kwa kgaolong ya rona.
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