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lSI [:~I.A.RCH 27, 1894] _..__.

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..- - EX-JUDGE PAL:\IER.

Tables of the Trade and Xavigation of the ernOl" of the ~orth-west Territories ,vere the Dominion of Canada, for the fiscal year end- same as those issued to the Lieutenant Go'\" ing 30th June, 1893.-(:\11'.

Wallace.)

ernors of The Lieutenant Goyernor of called our attention to the fact that in some particulars.
not Velj" material, the ordinary instructions Mr. DA'VIES (p.E.I.)

Before the Orders ,,"ere inapplicable to the Lieutenant GOY of the Da~1' are cal1ro.

I ,,·ish, pursuant to erJ.lor of the Ter~tories,from the fact of there private notice I gave the lender of the Goy- bemg no Executive Council and matters of emnlent.

to ask ,vhether the Letters Patent Ithnt kind.


and therefore the i~tructions ,,·ere have yet passed un(ler the Great Seal, grant- rec~111ed, and mnde applicable to the TelTi ing to ex-.Judge Paltner~ of Xe,,· Brunswick~ torles b.~· cbange of.

phrase.

nlerely, not by supera,nnuHtion allow'ance proYitled in cert:lin chnnge In an~r lllaterlul particnlar.

c.ases.

the Territories the provinces.

Sir .10II~ THO~IPSOX.

On receiving the hon.


gentleman's letter, I made inquir~· ~·(\s­ terda~·~ :ml1 I ,vas told they h:ld passed.

'VA.YS .-L~D )IE..:\.XS-THE B·UDejET.

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1·"osrrElt lliOyeU : SEA.LI~G 1:X BEHRING SEA.. Tha.t tlu..- Hon:;e re:;oh"c itself into ('OBlIHiUce )(eaulS for raising the to consi.ler the \YaylS ancI ~upply to he grante.i to Her )(ajcsty.

I desire I .

Sir RICH.illD CA.RT\V'ItIGHT.

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,,,ithin th...~ ,,,,ith the usual recommendations tIle hone gentlen13n to-uIOrrO\Y.

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tftsk "'hich is set before me.

INSTRUCTIONS TO LIEUTEX.

:\~·r G(t':"- i r,ast ~·ear" it I ",'ouId not" like to state frolll memor~:" !

tun to present to the House.

t,vo despntches frOID the Colonial I explain the tariff last to ask the Plillle ~Iinister if he ha.~ an\:" II!e s.nld : ~Ir.

:.spea.ker.
:.spea.ker.

I shall have to craye further information t.o communic·tte t'o the!

tne iUdulgenee of ~he House to~d:.1Y for a House 'villi respect to the subject to ,vhich I n~ore len~th~· .bearIng' th:~u usn:lI, and to : bl'~peak the klnd1s attentIon, even a more I call d ~tten on c.lt t le lc.lst 8Ittl~~.

~anlel~ ~ i eonsidera.te attention.

"'hich I could scarcel'" .

"hat _:lCti?D ba~ ~een tn.ke~ or IS ~ely ~~!

ask, tJI:ln hon.
ask, tJI:ln hon.

members have generally given ?e ta.k~ ~ regc.l;d to, the Cc.tlltllre of sealeI .. 1 Inc. o",·ing to the magnitude and length of the ill Behnn~ Sea.. 1 he hOll.

gentlenuln.

In the first d~n\sar' ha~ noticed that th: .sult~ment~ I i place, I ,villas briefi~", as plainl~· and as de lli..ule "lth .refer~ll.ce ?f th~ posSIble IDtenno.n 1 finitel), as possible, In~· before the House th(" o~ the Umted.
Stc.~te~ ~O\l e~men.t seem to j statenlent of the finances of the preceding b~Te been ID?re or l~ss c.lccuril.~e.

If the .Am- i ~·ear, remarks and obser j vations \vith respect to the current and suc- encan press IS to be :1.t all relied.

upon.

Sir JOHN "rHO~IPSON.

There ha'·e b:'cn Icepding rt~ars, and after that, "'ill proceed to one or "'ith few: 'Yhich I ua,·e been intrusted, and which I office on the subject days.
I do not in ~'hat healing they have on the hone gentle- l tend to nlake nn~· pretense of a speech in look at thenl, and ~ the statem~nts th~t I.am to place befo~e the man's questioll.

: Honse, but I deSlre to do my ,vork ill tell tll(· !shortest and lllost business-like ,Yuy po~ible.

I guye II no detailed statelnent of the prohable re\enlh~ to a.ccrue during the current year, but gay..· \,"ouid like II a gross estimate amounting t.o the sum of to c.all the attention of the Plime lIinister, $38,000,000.
revenue bas ex to a statement made in the ftre~8.

and to ask!

ceeded the estimate by $168,608, the Customs the him to inform the House ,,,,hat nre the facts 110V'errunning ,the Customs in the matter.

I notice a statement that the I preceding ~~ear b~" $452.944.

the Excise oyer instructions issued to the Lieutenant Gov- 1rnnning the Excise receipts of the preceding ernor of the NOrth-west haY'c been recalled.

i ~·(·nr b~" ~-l22.~('7.


aDd the miscellaneous re and other instructions have been issued in I ,·enlie or en nlings overrunning those of the their place, and there is aL~ the allegation I preceding year by $371.526.

the made that new instructions have been issued I excess tbrel~ to the Lieutenant Governors of the various : sources.

besides being $168,608 more than If so, I think the House should i 'V:lS estimated.
sho,,·s $1~246.73r in advance provinces.. be informed In regard to what instrnctions !of the revenue of the preceding year.

The bave been issued, what were the reasons for iprincipal itenls in which the revenue increas recalllng the instrJtctlons previously given, I ed, briefly sta ted~ are as follows:- and in what respect they vary.

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Sir JOHN THOMPSOX.

The same instruc- Cement........ .

t.lODS have been given for some years past CoPl~r, and tnanllfactul't's of .
to the Lieutenant Governors of the several Cotton .

provinces.

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a copy of them has already been placed on Flax, hemp and Jute.

aJ.ld nlauufa.ct.llrt>s of.

f th th T bi .

The Gold and silver, and lJlanllfacture~of Instructions wlll be brought down.

lnstmCtloDS given to the Lieutenant Gov- Hats, cap.

and bunnett' I am under the impression that Fancy goods t onse; I no, a copy 0 IBreadstufflS ]'Ir.

~IILLS (Bothwell).
~IILLS (Bothwell).

e Gloves and mitts........ Furs, and manufactllre~ of ,,·ill be· remelubered, g 2O,-l~}5 17,79.

12,028 .

181,-119 26.252 18:910 7,191 7,123 lO,6Sl 30,278- from these f a eo 'l.oUe The actual receipts of So that relenue ".lo.. H _ .'

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184: 16~f-58 38,6Hl ;,407 12.281 !.~9frJ [CO~Il\[O~~] I .

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Iron and stE-el, and nHulufact\ln-~of.

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!,ava.. Oils, coal, ker~ne, nod products of .

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Tobacco, and l11anufactur~:iof , \\.

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, 'rIle items of decrease ,,-ere :- ~-\l~!, lJet'f ~n~ p()rt~r AOllllal:\: h\·lug (~vri~~8 Carpets and :,quar~s.

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", 86,280 I' }'ruits and nut8 ..... , .

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, 2H,166 }'ruits (~n)" ..•.... , , . "

., 30,874 I .Jewellery !t2,138 ~Iu8ical iU8tnlmellts 164,918 P~I){·r, and manufactures of 22,025 Pnl\'isioJls, 213,826 41,169 Sugar, all kinds of.

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: butter, ch~=,e.

lard and , .

Sugar, InCJlla8S~s... , V ~etahies \Vood, luanufactul't"s of ' 10;,64.

6;,4!t3 8,45ft 9,942 17.042 .


21,071 i 1f;'113: 1 he D:O\'elllcnt In .eXCIse IS sho,,~ by ~he 25~187 II follo\YlDg comparative table of the quantIty 12,"45 taken for eonstlluption and duty accrued on 7,150 I excisable :1gainst 11,59311891-92. , .

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in 1892-93 '......... articles .

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I Duty, 18~2.

Duty, 18!t3.

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306 :'\ 265" 50:' ~, .~."

,OJ ,3,138 5;,6,t; 1,3,2 22.008 .")

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:)•• r)(),o.~2.751 I' .

1104,5~1,4H3 1114,f)fj8.~.

40.14;,200 I "2,87fJ,l00 : 10.0UO,Of;2!

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]';6 928,517 fj~,952 62~933 2.3flf;,90-l , 1 i 41).425,882 64,305 1 2,3;!.,812 _ 1,001,655 681,628 .

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think, the rCl)Ort tu ~4-:!t ••:'.!".2.

-:': _..- ._--~~----- - :lI11uuurin;: in nil in cigars, t.hnt ~ g-all~.

gall~.

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;)If; '.01 ';40 3·"~5 l.'he duties accruing in 1892-9:3 as cOlupared increase in spirits.

,,·ith 1891-92 sho,Y all in cigarettes, in tobacco, in lllalt, ,,"bole line~ :uld snuff: is.

along th(\ :tlul rrlle ller ('3pit3 Cftn~nlllption (»f thes~ articles as re '·ealed b)· the.'

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)utroller of Inland Re\"t\nl1(~ is : ; ; _ ---------:--- - - --j--- ingr up in these different indnstries.

_\\"t~·ragt· frolH IS••; .... , do 1~Hl-!t2.. ,; dll lS!

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":' cl)nsiderable and a steady incrense over th~ ~·ear preceding.

"·hich, 3.S the Hnust' lUa;r re IIH~lnber.

Inarked the high()st perio(l ,,'hi~h h:ul been attained fronl Confederation up.

:lre ,yorthy of COll Th('se f.lets.

tbis time.

~how­ sidpratioll and of note at inA" ns they do the healthy conflition of trade in Canaoa as compared.

with other countries, sho\ving the incre:lsed cOnstlluptiV'~ po\ver of the p~l)le~ sho"1ng also, if ,,:-e ,viII look into the rt~turllS.

an uugnlt.
an uugnlt.

'\llted and expanding t:)llt~rgJ- in the industrial ,vodt of the cOlllltT.,r clS 111arl~ed b~" thf\ increase in ra ".

mnterials, \vI iell in lS!

)2-93 have heen illl}lorted for work- A.nother ~'1·atjf~-ing fnct about the year 1892-9:~ is tbat g-:lIIs.

tht' nliscellnneous receipts of Canada in- 'l;J; 12'1;)2 '101 II :?
'~~H ·~.4 1 2';n-t crensM by the sum of $H71,526, showing tbat tbE;\ E;\arning pO\Yer of these investments of ~- - - ' - - the (}o\·eroment has k(\pt steady :wd gr:tdual --- -".

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)~<.·e ,vith the trade of.

the cou!1try a~d t?~ l"uere is :1 slight the :lyernge.

and over the conSUnlI)tion per .~hll):ovenl~nt of the country ill other l~- head, of the ~·f·ar 1891-B2.

The House "'ill I· p~.ts...,.

see, then~ frOlll \vhat I ha \"e st·n.ted that the I 81r ItIUHA.RD C.\Rl'" RIGHT.
remarkable fact about the year 1892-93-and ,,'nnt I her(,~bas been the E;\xtrnordinar:r t.ive po,,"('r \yhich ha~ heeJl exhibited.

; are· The details are given in (:uperath-e po\ver ,,"hieh in C:lll:le.1a hus been the l'lublic A.CCOWlts in full l10der the head of U ~liscellaneous," so that I have not troubled in marked contrast ~l·eater (,()tll!tric~~ :uld lllltl)" ~:l).~ in fnet.

,,·ith the House with them just here.

I wisb to For, state that these receipts have sbown a grati all whereas thesp.
oth~r countries have during fying increase for a nmnber of years back.

the year 1892-93 experienced exceooingly great They amounted in 1867-68 to $1,987,247, and disturbances of trade, with a falling 00: in b~- 18;:1-7-1 they had gro,,~n to $4,075,90•.

eXllOrfs find hnJlorl'l;, and n falling otf in re- or an increase of 105 per cent_ In 1878-79 ,"(~Jlue as ,,·ell ; the fact r~mains that 8S far the,- bad decreased slightly, remaining almost as trade is concerned.
as shown by tbe CU8- at 1~he figure they \vere In 1873-74.

In 1892-93 the;)" had bounded up from four mllllODB of tom House re¥enue, as far as excise is con- cerned, and as far as the ~al"lliDgs, the mis- dollars to $8,847.241, or an increase o¥cr ('ellaneolL~ re\-enue of the country are con- 1878-79 of 118 per cent.
The increase in the (·erned, thel-e was nD increase in each itenl: a earnings, or misc~llaneous receipts of 1892-!la I do not to interrupt my hone friend unneces \,"orth noting just garHy, but will he give details of that?

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incrense in Tobacco oy'er recuper:l- be got the details there?

t.he great nations of the "·orld.

,,"ith the histor.r of think it is a filet 1\11".

FOSTER.
FOSTER.

l,"l'll • .. Mr. FOSTJo:R. r)I~-\RCH :!7, 1~9-t] IS6 r :t :l \)r of tht.~ th(' felt th:l t the hu:t ~-p:lr total gootl~ :lIJlon~t :ll~o b)· t·oll 11nies cent; for little IU.)l'....

totn} capit..l p(Or iInpurtt~'(l tt.> tinblling of ('~.untri(~s \\"ithout of a!1(~th~r ~\·idellc-e of careful ('nu~unllltittll t~nn'ie~ of ~·..oar was HO':!S ;"''1'(Oa1.

,,"orhl.

Call:l,la.

pprhaps.

COluing no\y to : tu the.

c~ebr.

the SHUI of S~..H),G05.

(l~arter InillioJl dollars o,er ~ the cit~· of St..T...bn.
the extraordin:u-y expenditure for tht!

S:lult Ste.

tb(~ tn.ken from the I purpose :llllollntillg to $1 ~4tiO.OO()~ : O\'t~r tho~e of 1SHt-H:!

,,'as $3,1.;;2(;.

:l~ I ha,e : :lccolmt.

Coming to capital n.ecount.

the ~x­ ·.rhe rnte of tuxation .

penditure for this year has been in eXC~8S stuh.lo(l. or ·111[~ per ....·eut.

l1uti:lble of the e:xp~diture of last year.

mainl~· O\'Vin~ on hOlllt~ the goe(l~ ~Iarie C:lll:tl.
un home consumption dutiable and· free, it was The t'Xpl'lldittu'l' apon railronds and ~l.nal:,.

thus sho'Ying :l decrea.~e in ehietls.

of cour~e.

un canals, 17'38 per cent.

".~l..~ $2.782,-1~)O : $1.81,877; on Dominion th{~ perceDtnge raised on goods entered for.

on public ,,-orks, cOlh"'umptioD, both dutiable and free.

from l:lIHls.

$115.0::8: lunking altogether $3.0'ft.


21'21 per cent illl~8n-!tu to 11·:-lS per t."t·nt ill .-l4)lj~ us :lg&lill~t $:!~IG;:t.700 for tbese item~ If ~·ou ndd to tllis :llUOlIDt the .

~~ear ,,,hich has just pnssed.

'Vhilst.

: the ~·ear 1)1'C',-ioU8.

therefore, the othel e colonies of Great Britain : raih\·n~- subsidies.

\Yllich total $811,394, :lS hale felt vel~· acutel~· the eODlIuereial de-: comp:lred ,,-ith $]~248.

:!1;t the ~·~:tr preced pre8.~ion, the los~ of re,enue and the loss of ill~.
you ha '-e a. p..xl)enditnr~.

trade in tb~ ~·ear 1892-93; and ,vbile that has: ~Hh1itl~ SO!IJ(A f ..,y llli~l"ll:lnt.

'ou:-; itenlS~ (ar (·f: ,~"''''~~!

).f;7:~ durillg' the ~·ear jnst j):lst.

Tnkiu;; It('('J) t~X-· tnlill tbnt fo;lun the surpllL~ of $.1.

;~-''''.55H, tak tll.-' lhc; ing also frolu it $2~t)C,-)5,513 applied to sink .·.

'Inion \vorld, sho'vs un increased trade both in im- ~ iug' fund, ,vhieh.

of course.

is Inid up ngainst ports and exports and an increased re\"enue ~ the d(~ht.
t~lking :ll~o $-!O~OOO received from of one :lnd a ,,'e haye as an addition the preeeding ~-ear lSnl-9:!.

:18 ag-J.inst I stated· an nddltlOll to the debt last ~-e:l" of ~;~.

:~2,40a: the expenditure for the past ~rear.

financial s.uper :1go.. nbout the ~·e~lr ~-,1~10n and ~:ireful :l~d .pnld.

:'ut eXptlndlture_ lily estim:tttO of eXl'pnclit nre for lSU2-93 ,vas *=~(;~~.OO.OOO.

,,-hprt':ls tb\~ aetual ] he exp~nd:rnre Oil eUpltAll aecount.
has h~(\u r.rhe incoLlle \\':l~ : ll'et by tenlporary IOHns and by the iSSUt~ of expenditure ,,·as ~:-:t"S14.0.)~.

tClnpornry IOCln~ Illude for thi~ $38,168,608, so that the toL1.1 expenditlu'es on 18tod" consolidated {llid :lCColmt and the tct~ll re\"'en~e on Consoliuated !

'"'und &1c.·eount.

Isttx'k iSSlh.\ So lea,es, what bas been a pleasant and recw'- !n~ueh "·ith rt.of(·rent·p to tbe e:tpitnl expt.

'Jl ring experienct~ in the :Hlministra tion of the I<hture.
l,rt~Sellt GO"·l\J·lUIH~llt, a tid~· stu'plus of $1,- j Sir ItICIL-\.RD C.A.RT"YItIGHT.

Will m\· :{~.t.~~(;.

friend state fro~n \vhom he borrowe(] to ?e c:arrie~l to.

capital nCCoullt.

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he Increas~ In eJ\;~~endltureIn 1892-93 as (~W- the $1,460,000 ?

pnrc41 ,,·ith the prl'Cetlillg year n·:lS s-lS.1:t8.

I ~ ,... ~Iontrl·a!.

Tbnt, ho\yeyer, Is a vl'ry small increase 'Yhen I ~'OU take into account tbe increased interest 10111' took ~ rea sur,r Bills.

although they on the debt.


eb:lrges, the large quarnntine expenditur.~ to Ih:n-() been :lS~I~tl~l SOlllt.°\\"h:lt b~· otlu·r I~Hn­ ,vbich t:he countrJ' the mail and ~ (](:ll ~lOUS(\l';•.

~()lJ.~I~;; no\\- to r(·~(An~le.

:u.Id ~x­ I Blust frankl~ sU,y tn steanlshlp ndded ~o, and the increasing demands for; ~he .~oU~~!

t!l:lt I .

(~:nmot pre~:nt~ S(: fnxou.r th~ ,"arlOUS p~lllic sel'\"ices of the (~ountr.r.

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~H~t.


tl!e st~t(:nl~nt, S~I~~l In fact it is ,veIl for the House to remem- ~ ~~ It I", ••nId t X.I( tl~ .l~ It.

IS, I intend to gl\ •.

that from 188- to: I he re'-()UUt' :Ind f"xpt~ndlture UI) to the 10th ber just at this moment 111~eSt·.n~ ..year.. :l.Il(!

of la~t 1892-3 there has been alniost a stationary' ex.. p~nditure upon Consolidated }.1'UDtl account.

;) ~3r r~lM"<:tl\ 4 1).


,,~r(..lS foIl...." s .- In the )-eur 1881-88, $36,718,494: 'V:lS expend-I ed, and in 1892-93, $36,814,05~, or an increase of only $95,558, and the average of the ex- I Ilenditure for the six years from 1887-88 to I tbe expenditure ILast ~·~ar from the 10th of )Iarch to th~ 1892-93 ''''as $36.599,312, tIuring those six years being, as I have said, i 30th of J"lme, revenue accrued to the anlOUllt So that it ',-ouId not be lof $12,397,000,.
and expenditure n-;}s incnr :tbout stationary.

anything more than pardonable for me and red to the amount of $14,579.000.

If I ,vert1 for the Government, and for the party which to calculate on t.he basis of receiving as much to take note of money frQJll re,~nue from the 10th oflIarch supports the Government.

in sLx this year up to the end of it.

as "-&1S rE~ the fact, and tn eluphftsize it-that.

J"ears of Canada's gro,,·th, "ith sernces I ceiyed during the ~..nle period 13st )'enr.
over a widely extended range of country and Inaking tht· e.xpenditul·t\ constantly growing, and new ones constant- "-ny, that ly coming to the front, and in a time of pro- we should have a reY~nue of $37,493,000, gress and compP1ition, when those services and an expenditur~ of $37,212.fJOfJ.
But have to be generously met, we hUTe been able I cannot ~.xpect so large a leyenue trOI)) to meet them, and have been able to keep the the 10th of ~Iarch this year to the end of rouDtry's expenditure on .Consolidated Fund the year as ,,·e r(ac.eived last year.

'l'he year at an almost stationary :figure, and to haTe a 1892-93, as I have stated, was a remnrkably good stU1)}us e:1cb year to carry to capital steady, and, in :tact, a progressive year.
The Ren~ll11e to 10th )Iarch, Isn..... 823,at6,OOO 25,771,000 Expf'nditurl' to 10th :\Iarch, U;;.... ~,~,ooo :..2,235,000 sub\"entiollS ,,·bicb have been ;l·l ndlturn fOIlS •••).

the increased sinking fund ~ tllo~t of t h(' tiU:U1CIUl.

~genrs.

,vh!ch, :lIUOUlltiug to $1.186.4();t "'ould stand in this • fht' ~ilnk of j t~t.

:\Iar(:h ~.f.

~t~l~ ~I)e.. Ft)~1: ER.

,vas put, figures 1893.

.. thulk.

equal 18.•3.

an do do do do I 188 • I I I .. .

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ha\""e leIDnins will be )Ir.

}'OSTER.


That ,,·Ul have to be made.

'1'h·~refore it time, _ ~rr.

CHA.RLTO:'\.

\yInch the world ex- posed to pronde?

or <IrIng Influences; gil"e an estimate.

but trade or rev~nue= "\ve are!

who sits beside me.

no doubt, has· necessary cclpital ~xpenditure 'Yhich, There has been.

think, another cause, which is ' l\II.

CIL-\.RLTON.

"~at IS tile del>th .

the deepen progress, so far as the rel"enues were con-: and ,,-hat cerned.
renulined remark3.bl~p steady up to: ing and widening and other improvements :l.bout the middle of December, 1893.

From: necessa.r~" to the St. Lawrence canals nnd that time to the present the re,enues have i river, l\·hich will not cost a very large sum sho\\-n a grndunl decline.

due to two causes : ~ and ,vill not extend over a very long period.

is fortlmate that at to a general apI>rehension throughout: ()f tilne.
First, the colmtl1- that tllere was to he :1 change in !this particular ,,"c nrc nearing the tariff c.onditions, and ,,-hat follo,,'oo from; end of extrnordin.n.ry expenditure for heal-YO that,.

naturnlly nnd logicnlly.

n general prud- I public works and coming to a period ,,-hen ent restriction of expenttiture.
and ,~aiting ~ ClU· re,enlle IUllSt nlore n~arly equal our ~x­ to see \,"hat the t:lrifl "-ould be before mnk- I penditures on Consolidated :Funll :lecount, 00 ing large purehns(.l!8 or undertuking large ex- !

that we shall haye to borro\v less for the penditures.

This.

frolU been the principal cause of the tempor:u·y time to tillie.

.

.

reces.."ion of the revenues.

,,"~nt ~~pendlture l~ llowever, ~t.


La \yrenec this· Thou<Th this countn- stood remarkn..blv :deelned neCl\SSars' on the ,,-eU·the stl;SS of the hard times and the com- I cana.ls, and \vhat depth of water is it pro- IDl\rcial disturbances is a qnestion \yhich pl~rienced in 1892 and 1893, a~d seem~ to have passed tbrough them Without VISible l more particnlarly pertains to In~· hon.
frient.1 I anl not prepared t(\ (·1fect up~n our now feeling the reflex think somew'hereo of tha~ ,yorld-,,-!de delH-ession ~nd p~riod of 1 in the neighbourhood of $8.000,000 or $10, lo,v prl~es.

:md it hns had and.18 haVIng the ; 000.000 is supposed to cOlnpletely finish the In C~anada-f?r a .period short as I ,,·ork and gi,e the depth to the c3Jl:tls pro effect yet, a.nd ,,·hlCh I .belIeve Will not be o~ long.

posed for and known to the HOlh;e for se, duranon-of making people prudent In ex-!

era!
era!

venrs back.

:lnd conservative in!

penditure and cnreful their purchnses.

These reasons lead me to ~ think that the reyenues ,,-ill be considerab1r 1 )Ir.

FOSTER.

I ..ea",iug \\·ish to sa~'" less during tbe yenr 1893-9!

than the revenue; the question of expenditure, I ,,-hich accrued in 18tl2-93.

and from present!:l.


\\"ord or t\VO \"Vith reference to two or ,,·ortb~" of being noted when nppearances I do not anticipate more than 1 three facts thirty-six and a half or thirty-six and three-; considering the year just passed.

The 88X quarter million of dollars.

If the expendi- : ings of the country, as indicated by the de.

tnre frOlll the 10th of ~Inrch to the end of i posits of the people in the Government and the year should be normal.
that would leave i other savings banks, show an increase as us with a deficit -: but this Government has i usual-an increase \vhich might not have come to the conclusion-a wise conclusion, Ibeen expected, but ,vhich nevertheless took which I lSS9, we had a House.

and in \,"hieh the Government will!

balance of deposits in the Government sav have the co-operation and cordial help of the Iings banks, including the Post Office, of $42, time, as hone gentle.
House-to endea\""our to li\""e during this ~"ear j 9r.l6:357.

About within our income, and.

it our incoJne is less, Imen will remember, the rate of interest ,,·a8 to resolutely keep do,,·n the expenditure, so I lo\~ered trOlll 4 per cent to 3% per cent.

that in the end "\ve sbaU not have that un-l For that :md other reasons the deposits ran welcome tisitation which so often made its I down until,.
on the 30th June, 1891, they nppearance to m~- hone fliend who sits op-l touched June posite me-an ugly and ill-visaged deficit.

11892, they had increased only to $39,529, -\.

pntdent business man, any prud{\nt busi-!

546, but the deposits had an upward tend- ness oonf'pnl.

any private gentleman, any; ency.

On the 28th February, 1894:, those bou.~ltoldpr.

,,"ouId course of: deposits bad grown to $42,165,896, or an action: and in the national housekeeplng~ it I increase of $2,636,350.
Another evidence ot is N1llan~~ incumbent.

it seelns to me, to 101-1 the thrift and prosperity ot our co:untry dur iog the year 1892-93 Is shown by the fact \ve have corne pretty closely up to the limit Ithat whilst this increase took place In the there was also of our capital expenditure upon great ,,-orks.1 Government savings banks, it our calcula- an increase of about $7,908,418 in the sav Three Illontbs fl·om to-day.
see Canadian ings deposits in the other chartered banks ; 'ITong, will tions are not ,·esse]s passin~ throu~h tile Sault Ste.

and it we add to these the savings of the )farie Canal.
and an uninterropted channel of people as placed in the loan and building comluuni(·ation for Canadian and other ves- socleties-n6t a yery large amount, about totally ,,·it.hin Canadiun waters and I $19,000,000, and which remains fairly sta sf·ls, the total deposits of Canndian territory, from the cenu·e of thi~ tionary-we jJnd that "\Ve have the people, the total savings of the people (~ontin(\nt 01.1t ~pe-nt a hu·ge amount of money upon our their deposits in the varIous banks, Govem general canal system and upon the Sault ment and others-amounted, on the 28th to the sum of $242,645,358, Sle.
~Iarle Canal.

will be finished by tl11~ end of sum of nearly $50 per head for This last expenditure February, 18M.

the year.

or echoed by this 1 place.

On the 30th June, the ganle course_ It is fortunate that to the seaboard.

$39,400,026.

On think ,,·i11 be Fourteen feet.

take 30th that that the It),,~ a CJ ~Ir.

:FOSTER.

[~l.>\RCH :!i.

1894] 190 tl t spent If t11:1t 1 "oish.

increase that an tn lOy mind!, is :1 I)Osition \\Ohieh~ is used often (u.nd used, in my opinion, in preceding!
details of the t:lritI upon the trucle aull the population 01 the country.

When we!

,,·hich and the details with which it arrang·~s take into account the fact that in 1878 this; its fiscal and taritt le;.tislation.

The arrnnge.

total was only about $87.000,000, the fact: ment of a tariff and the principllA \",hieh is bet"oeen that; to be adopted has t\\"o aspect~-it looks to remains I)eriod.

and the present has taken place of i the re\·enue 'Yhich is required in :l l"')Untr~o, $155,096,312.
The eommen'le of the country; and it looks as ,,·ell to the general n-ade :lUll I have briefi~· noted.

As ; development of a. countr~o.

during 189:2-93, tbis tinances sho~\"ed exceedingly w'ell in that: early stage of lliJ' remnrks upon this subject.

~·ear.

as the sayings sho,,·ed an Increase of ; to sas that, so f:lr as the re,enUe aspect is ten million dollars, so the trade and; concerned, it is of infinitel)· less importau(',,~ :lbout the principle nnd tll...\ conunerce of the countr~r sho,,·ed.
not only; than the effect of ,,·ell.

compn.rati"\""ely to itself tlt' ~·ears~ but exceedingly ,yell relatively to the ~ ,·eloI>nH~nt of 3. countr~·.

I kno\\--unu hone experience of other colJ1ltries.

The _\ustrn- i gentlemen on both sides of the House "oill in their trade, ran dow'n by ~ recog'nize it us a fnct "ohen I state it-th~lt linn colonies.
thousands; British comnH:~rce: the re"\""cnne ,,·hich is raisetl under :1 tnrltr hundreds of decrensed in 1892-93, ~lS conlpar(.l(} "oith th._~ '·l'ry pr('CCding year, to the extent of $133,291.- often "orongly) either as an argument in fn :.3;-.. her exports decre:lSing to the extent of j "\""our of a tariJf principle or as an argument $41.H7S,026.

French c,ommerce declined $97.- ~ a;:ainst it.


It has not been outside of the 811.239, her ~xports declining $49,883.914: of ; experience of myself and other hone gtantle rrhe United States trade fell' ruen on this side of the House that the f:1ct that alllount.

off $133,182,229, her exports sho,,·ing :l de-: th:lt t.hirty-eight Dlillions ,yere raised and in the countrv in a. sin:!le J"'ear has crease of $68,499,5-14.
¥;ith this record of decre:lse and dee:mence in trade, it is pleas· heen debited to ~nd made the gi-ound or ing to contrast Can:ldn~s experience, "ohich :lttack upon the policJ·, and the principlt~ or sho,,·s an increase in trade of $6,269,177, the polic)· under 'Yhich that re,enue acerUt~}o and an increase in exports of home produc.ts Th:lt is 8car("el~" defensible.

The principle of the is an indication of of $6.459,344.
I)rogress relati~e to our fureign commerce, tariff has nothing to do in this year 189:~-94: "·hen "oe come to the countl·~o itself \ye find "°ith the :UllOunt of money which is reqUired for the COUlltr~·!

'S expenditure; :lnd the f:lct that more miles of r:lil',"3~o ha"\""e been oper- th:lt thirt~·-eight millions of doll.irs are raised :lS compared ,Ylth 1-1.- ated.

namely, 15,020, :-,8,;,,:,.

in the preceding year.


We find that there under it is neither un :lrgluuent for its sUI' bas ~en an increase in the passengers port nor an argument for its cond~nlnationo In the first place, carried; an equal thirty-eight millions of dol~:ll:S are not rnised b~" the tariff ut pre freight has been Ino\·OO-solue :unount of nvent~·-t\yO luillion tons-and ,¥e find that sent In force, and would not be raised b, :ln~· t:lri1f put in force in this countr)·.
O·f the earnings art~ larger than in the preced- the thirty·eight millions of dollars of re iug Yf\ar, ulllounting to about $52,000,000.

t,,-enty-one lllillions of dollars has The tonnage by lake and sea has been ,,"ell yenue, ~ust:lined.

The increase of imports and ex- tnriff detail.


ports has taken place as I bave stated, and:1 But the other se,enteen millions of dollars notable and gratifying ~trect in relation to are r~lised in totally different ,,-a~·s, as hone this increase is that in farmers· products- gentlemen ,,·ell know'.

So that the fact that agricultural prodUCts, animals and their pro.

a larg~ :llliount of r~\·enue is raised an.i ducts-there has been a large de,elopment.
to be used by the year 1892-93 showing a total export of Ol)po.nents?f t_he pr~sent policy either in its thes~ products of $49,235,106.

against $46.- det~Jls ~r In Its pr~neiple as an argument Its condemnation.

The 145.590 the preceding year.

first .thin~ to be settled by a country in thIs bution of the exports to the l.~nitOO States, Canada sent $6.020,992 worth in 189:J. to r:use .for its current expenses.

When once tl.g'c.linst $6.643,019 in 1892; tain, $4O.4..?O,681!'
as against $;l6,869,595 the t~at IS settled, then the question of taritr preceding year.

Now, )Ir.

Speaker, having Simply has to do ,,"ith re,enue in tbis light ,,·hether ° that re,enue can be raised under thus brielly and rapidly gone o,·er the finan--- t:~rdr or not, and then the tariff is cial exposition, as it is called (Which I think that cannot but be on the whole 2ratifrina to rele~ated to the place "ohere it properly be the House) it 'becomes my d~tr to iak: up longs.
~nd the ,·iew ,,·ith "·!tic!t it should the second branch of my labour of the da,·; pr?perl~ be canv~ssed-theprInCiple and de that is, the working out is proposed to of.

\vhlch the necessary revenue shall be the tariff changes which it So ~h:l!

in introduce.
in introduce.

\\ hlcb the tantr IS to be ~Iewed IS as to its me it I preface the recital of these changes by some general remarks upon the questiono (affect upon the ... trade .an~ development of You wU1 agree with me Mr Speaker the tarUr 'I he j)rlnClple of tbere couId not well ~ a ~ore imp;.rtant was ,,"ell d!scussed in 18?8 and several question' for a Parliament to discuss and tor years preceding.
It was dISCUSsed by the a country to decide than the principle upon ri\"~ pa~es on the platforms or the COUD- tr~" and In the House of Parliament Itself.

:is re~:ltlon IS how much money it ought I am sure the House \\ill pardon r:ll~ed.

to say something with reference "to U1IIs O.f to do with tariff principle or spent In the countr~- IS not ...-\.8 to the distri- ag-ulnst the pri!lcipal _aspect the tarIff under to Great BI·i- the country.

It and for about that that find lye 191 192 of tnx.
this ll))On tilH'·.

,Hreet ';xcist~ is tll:lt rt'h.

'gnh~l })l0,.- 10f lUOfh'Ut'd.

in- ; u(\url)· the present t:lriff can Itt' (;re:lt Britain.

tt) un (...]uiYnl(\nt ; Y:lriou~ illdustri('s.

It seems to me th:lt ill,·itlput:ll s(,h'ctetl Hst briTue.

The third luethotl :l countl·~· "ohich has :1 reY',,,J)Ul~ free trade.

under g-r(':lt eountri('s at tbill~ ,,·hich :lre prndueed; prote..·th'{'.

retroSI)~·t is ttl be takl'n i :Ire prf'tluced in the countr¥.

ill the (~ourse of events, a peri0401 !


thenl.

and St~ far &l~ any of to tl.. ,!

fuuud no plal<.'e.

nle onl~· great CulIDU'Y in Th~n the tlUestion ,,-as pt.."'Ople.

3ud the decision of the pl'Oll!e l-rj\"l~ll :-lhe ,,"odd 'Yhich h3S adoptetl the sl'Ct)nd ~l"hat decision hns bl'en r~3t1irnu~d i lurolhod is Great Britaino She has s~le~t~1 npon it.

it hap- 1 n li~t of :lrticles and placed impo~~ upon in 1~.2.

ill 188., ~Int.l in 1891.

Xo,,· th.


)~P arti("l~:"" l.ell~ th:lt. arrh"es "Oh(.\ll a :lre not.

:1114.1 ~bt" fl' the tariff in its operation.

and ,,·hen the i ~llbjt~~t tlUestion (OOU1('S again before Pnrliument as 1hus ~,;,'(\n then} l)rotection.

The protecti(.

)ll :nul ,1S Ht the: is hrought to a mininlwll ,vhen the lbt of to the I.rinl--iples of the tariff ~ :lrtieh"s is 8U (·h08E.
"ll thut the \Yhole of th~Ul....}" tl(,tails ,,·hich shall be built UI)()1l tbose prill' tll..'re nre onl~- ~ tht' 1l1ust ()f then).

nre of a class w'hich is I'ro ~il)les.

,,·hich.

or duc-pd abn)a<1 3nd ,,·hich is not producetl at three IlOs.~ible principles )llpthUtI~ h~· "ohh·h.

:l l\'hich :IH «)nn is h) h:1'o\., Silllplt.lo ,vith tll(~ ('xe~ption of Gre:lt Britnin.

ha~ adoptetl ,,-hieh ~·ou h:lye 110 CUStOll18 imposts nt all.
:lnd 11:1S in I):":lctiee, find tll:!t is the p,·ote<~thoe the re,oellue llt'('(,8~al~0 for the (·ouutr~· be- t.lx:ltioll.

ho,,"e\'er ing r:1ist~d b~· it.

s~·8tenl.

in which :l list of nrticles is selected.

_-\llothl'f is to h,l'\'e :1 t nJH!

upon which ilupost n1te~ nre p~3ced nl:l~· be distributedo re\,enU("l, tnritT 'Yhich selects n li~t of nrticho~ 1 ,yUh the design.

not onl)' of raisin~ ;1 re\'C' impost upon thos('; IHie.
but of protectin~ th(~ cotmtl"~· in it~ :lnd pI:1("t'S rate~ of :trti....les.

c:·hif-fly \\Oith a ,jf'''" to the quick€"Sf.

in its lnbour :111(1 in it.~ :11141 bl.\st method r:li~in~ the ~ ::;t"\llt~r:l1 de,-elopm('nt.

t'asiest \\"hich 'Yhieh is neceSS:llO~', but al~o with j to~d:l~- is the onl~· exnnlpleo 3S I ha,"e ~31<1.
amouut the nt't·('s~ar)O ~\"llh"llee of tariff U$ tect!un ,,-hene,o·~r :18 })ossible approachill~ to the D ....·U is a count~· ,,·hich ("onl1nellCf~ c..hu.l(\~ those ur C':ln be produced in thf-' coulltr~- itself, 1 her eareer b)· a protection ,,·hich in ~Ollle :L }wotection \,"hich is incid~nta).

hut ~·hi~h.

i (,;lS~~ :ull()Untro to absolute pruhibition.

and in :l purely re'\'enue tnriff.

is ne\·er tlesi~ll(-d. i ,,·hit·h.

for man.


'o years, pro!-Te~sffi UU,h~\l' :l The other :lnd third lllethoo i~ th~ pri)h.ctiY'e ; 'W'.

'I")" hi~h ratt': ,,~hen t:lrift'.

by \\"hich :rou select a certain list; at );lst.

b~o the unique de,oelopmelll of her 4.

'( nrticles :In<l plact' upon thenl cert:liIt rates: O""U f(}rl·...~.

lw'r o,,~ industliul po,Y(~rs a~ of hnpo~t ""ith a ,"ie,,,, to r:lising a certain i ("Hnlp:lr,"tl \\"it.h ~urronlldin~ (~ouutries.
:Hlt} the; the unique eOlnbination or ('onditioll~ outside :UlltlUnt of luone~- for '·,)Hlltry.

but rl10re espet~i:llJy ,,~ith thi~ vie,,·, t of herself which put her in a po·4tio~1 to tb:lt whilst ~-ou raise the ltmOlult of mo:!

('y : d(l!llill.fite (·onlpletel~" the industl'ie~ of tne thn r is n(:.c~~ssm'Y for the COUlit..~-.

ytlU ~haiI 1"oorld.

tl!

:lt she thre,,· her porl~ open antI stil!.lLllate til:.'
de~('lopnlent of tht~ re~our("es ~ :1]]0""00 ;tIl products to COllIe into her markets of the (~Ul1ntr~·.

you 5'hnll belp to Inake its iu- ; \\'!thout imvost~, in order that sh~· Illight.

:lnd pro- I {('I' h~r o"on interest and benetit, earr.\- th(a dustriul greS8i~e.

to lU:lllUf:lcture in the eountl~·o b,-!

pr()f.lncts of her labour.

of her Illventh·e fa~­ into ta\O"l·~O the lnbour of its people, as much as possible!

ties of what tll.~ pl.

"ople ha'\"'e to consume, and o'\'er!


4l11:lrter of tilt, that.

hUT and :lboye that~ as much as l)()s~ihh' of "ohat I ye:u" b)O ~'e:lr her cn~tolner~ lln'\'n bet')} outside countries {"an be ~ot to take of the ~ l(a:lrnin~ h(~r art~.

though the~· have not products of the l:lhoun; of the people.

So the !

Itracti~~l tht'y.

:In.1 a I in in'\"enti\"t' ~euiu8.

in Ulet°h:lllic:11 dextt.'rity.

41ifl't~rence bet,,-een n re'oenue tnriff proteeti'\'e tnrifI is not tllnt tbere may not be !
in industrial de\~~lopment~ in many ea~s are ill :l Ieqllulling- Gre:lt Britaiu.

or coming erose up in both :m in(~i<l('nt:ll protection.
but tb:lt pu~ely re,-enue ~"l.riff tllllt protection is ~inlplyIto ~er, at the same titn~ they are protecting In('~dental :md not designed : whil~t in :1 pro- tl.l(~n· own P9rts and theuo own country; and Is Ito-d:l~" ,,·:tres nnll goods ,,·hich formerly ",oere tec1h-e t~lrifI it d("~jgned to be a protection~ antI is put upon 11n:lde In Gr~:lt Britain alone, are now' made in ('~"ery quarter of the globe, anll tbe.r art" the statute-book for thnt purpose.

Xo,,·.
Xo,,·.

Sir, it ~eenlS to me that outside of these thr~ ICOInIng frotH protective countrit~S into the 1I1('fhods no others hn,·e eY'er been proposed, lnarket~ of Gre:lt Britain to compete with Take tbe IWh:lt she manufac~s, :lnd throwing out of or ha,·e ever been ncted upon.

tilst~ the simpl~· free trnde method.

There emplo~olllent.


in nHlnr the very is no country in the world to-<lllY ,,·hich pr:lC- artiz.~ns "olio are descended from generations ti~ it, or ,,·hich has adopted it ; th....re has of industriHl op€'rathO(,s been no country in the world,.

among- tho!e I Yro L ..-\.

:\'DEI{KL~o 'Vould the bon ~en­ cl:l~ed.

as great and pr~gressn:e (~untr!,e9.

tlenl:ln lea\"'e the acadeilly an.I come· Lack "'h~'o~h .has ever adopted It.

It IS sOlllethlug to Pnrllam~llt?


Whl{'h IS very well to talk about, something ""blcb in airy and fine-sounding phrases.

does to tickle the ear.

at the husting~.

of the audience that is listening" but which \\'hE'.n orought do,,·n to the cold plane of dfs('ussion in Parli:lment and in le::islaU,e hulls, has no place, and up to this date bus I bn'·e a first dut.r to perftlrlll to m)· bon.

friend to make up for something In which, possibly, he has been pre\"iou~ll"' lacking.
and to giY'e him a touch of the a(·..i demy before I come down to his compreheD to-night commencing sion.

If Canada ,,·€'re is both incid~nt:ll anti life hrond :lnd di'\'ersified.

ll}("('hanical ,,"..rId.

t..'x:uHllle: and ,,-hilst in Great Britain.

the s(~r,oi('.~s of ID-o FOSTER.

instances.

She tlhl nnd it ~('nius.

,\"us :lIul onl~o IH"r Mr. FOSTER.

193 [)I~-\RCH 27, 1~9"'] 19-1 I to be :l~k for the hiln :In,l tloDe :l h011t se:l1e.

\vhich ll:l\;ng (Onuntrie~.


"°t':llthier so gr(~at, :lny onnbt \\":l~ done llellluntl-n114.1 tlenl:ll\ might :lDtl which; of \'\"'hich sht") needed.

rl':ulin?!.

diseu~sinj: ~:lme~tl.\· and l."he cl(~finit~ an,l \\"hi(~h ,,-ould ll:l\·~ thi~ ~ur- ~ I do not ;lS indus- ll~· ohlf"r' ~h-e it gt'U- : ""ith a the :l(l\-antages ""hieh older ~Uld nlOrt~; ,,-hidl Jlrohll(otion.
h:l~ h, ...·n objl"ted :lnd just for a nlODlent If she "-t'r(~ in that position to-on:r it jection~ ,vhieh ha\e been U1:1(l ('0 l)(ll plain.

c·f in 18.8, l.ro(]u("ts 'Yhi(Oh (":lllacla hl'rst'lf nlight: sc\""er:l1 rea5011S.

to take for , de novo ~ :10,1 ,li8{'n~~ing the printOill)l' UpttU ; Parliament in the Inatter of t:lriff.

:lud to the people :u1(1 to t~n this Parli:unent ,vbi(·h she shoult.1 nrr:Hl;:e ht.
"r t.nitf \\ ith a; tell ne,,- to the de~eloprnl'utof her r{\Sources :lnd : just 'Vh:lt he pr•.

'})o~e~ us the principle, of her industries.

sh(' (ll11t:lils.

on Th(~ rounding set of cireluHstnnl"es of ""hich to take; "ohi("h he ,,"ill bcl8e hi~ ti~al Ik.lic,Y_ that l)(Aing young~ ,Yithout the ad- : t.luestion is so S('rit)u~ .1n,1 tht' C()ll~efJll~fie,~~: oogniznnce: \"'::ntA-.ges of wealth.
"°ith all the initial dls- ~ "ohich hang upon it nre that :l(h-antnges of a ne,,- country and a compara- : t he people ,,"ill t.he- hone gen just :18 ,,-ell p\e it no,,· ns tiY€-I)- undeT'elopecl coulltr~-.

so f.lI· trje~ :u"'~ (~oncenled.

surloolmtle..l l:ltf'r-thnf he gn to th..., e t)\1u t ry uetinitiou e)f his principles "ohieh :lIlt1 ern tinll:O; of ~kil1o \villI 1:\ r;!t' in,ln~trit"~ (OU111- I ,,-ill not h:,,-..\ it.

hut pf-ting for the l11a1"t8 of the ,,"orld.

and on :1.. ""hicb \\;11 .~I{Jlar.


,,-..'rbl-,,"ide "':l.s ad all l)()lic~" to tor fi(-rcely <.~mpeting for tradt' in those indus-: ,-'}-tt'(1 I noial the e.-)usuluptioll of lu"}" r ,,'ish to gl:lnee at tw'O or three of the ob ha,-..-- ]11 the l)eoplp.

set"))US to nH~ th:lt the leery 8:11Ue thing w ...,1Ic1 .

first pblce.

it hus ht~n objeet(ll(!

to lle(~:lU8e in ~ of th(' :11l~~t"(1 high rate of duty \Yhich it iUl ha\"'e 1S,S ,,-hen she first C:lllyasSC(1 this <luestioD.
t pose-; upon Ilroducts ilnport('41 into Ule conn \vhen she first came to the decisIon thnt it Itry; and th..-- attt.

"lnpt is ol:1l1e ,vitb many 'Y:1S inlp08siblc ·for her to hu\"'e the industrial.

})(llrsons.

,,-ho do not haye tbe :Hl\-antage tle,-elopment underst:lnding :1I1l1 "":18 necessnry to her pro~'1·('Ss nut!

ht"r ller- ; th('~t~ In:ltters as flo g~lltJelllen "-ho nre COD D1311ence, lmless she gtl,e to her peoplt.'

the: tinually eng:l~etl on theu).


to ~ho"" that the ,wantage ground of a llu'asure of Jlrot~tion:tariff llntl(llr the Ilroteeti,e 8)"stel11 thnt h:1S ,,-bich ""ould lllith:ate the fierce comlletition: been in t·cnoe...\ in C;lnada siul"c 1878. nnd is ab :nul skille..:l countries possesse..l against her; and ; norJnnll~- and outr:l~eously hi~ll_ llle ,,-hen she chose, 'lIU.

"8tion for a 8ingle lllonlent.

kno,,-n principle lllulerlyi~ th(, present t:l-; Is it hi;:h?

]f tIU.
]f tIU.

"l"llo is to be :l. }lrntectl'\"e In 1878 the Lib(\ral-Consen-~lth-epa~" i systel11 at all.

~\"er~°botl~- kno,,,s tllalt it Inll~t riff" cSI)Oused that prin(~iple~ that part:y h:1S eX-l be higher in its incelation tll:.tD :18 the )'e,u·s istetl on that principle up to the pre8ent 1 grr.dlL~ll~· industries b:1,c be \\"ht:'ll Il;lSS.

time~ it exists to-day upon th,lt principle.

; (-')U1U tll~t:lbli~hl.

'(l :tllel ,,,ll\.·11 theilldustrial ~Iore th:1U that.
it proposes to b~l~(, iW-e-xist- !t.le'\"elopUleut of the ,oountry ~'TO"·8 :lpuee.

.."loI\(~P for Ulan~- d:lY~ to COllle upon til:!

t prin- IIf 3. high d~gl·f\e of protl.~tiou is nl'CeSs.ll·~ is neces~l.t:\· in the inithll cipleo ()ne thing is certain.

it tlleir policy Iyears of a l)olic~· ,,,bie-II :1l10{)L~ the llrinciple tllis (-;o,"ommeut is hi~torie.

it is dt·tiuite.

it is undvi.bt~do I!


of protectioD as its basis, COlnp:lre th~ rate the '~lme c)f th.. p:u·t)· of lof hnpost upon produ(~ts cOluing into this ..~ould ~:l~- ,,-ish I hono gcntl€'nl(~n o))positeo protected Is the that the rate of inlpost .

:l~ertioD correct.

the protreti,e polic~· Is .

)Ir.

F~Srr:ER.

"~lll sonle on~ t.t"!l~ ~le ,,:~at i in Canada lmder IS the prIncIple ,,·luch th"ey.belie~c.

l~ ~ ::o~: Iabsurdly an(l outrageousl)- high?


Supp~e J"t.'Ct nl)\,"-I lu~an thtJl prlnt"lple "blch~ nt ~ Ius: we comp.~re it ,,-ith otl1er COlmtrie~ Dot l)resent time.

is in tal-our ,,-ith hone genne-I \\;th Frnllce.

,vhich is :1 11lOSt highl;" pro now, Itected cOlmtry, but ,,"ith the United States.

Inen gentleDL~n i and considlJlr tho :tetu,ll figures as to ,,·hat In Ithe imposts are in our O\'D COlmtry.

:md ~:lrly t~ ,~ho .

sits.

oppos~te 'VeIl.

the dlSC\lSS~OD.


a dlSCl1s..~!On whu:h l~ one ~~ I Sir, of tile ad the most.

unportant ,,:lid on :111 dutiable gooos thIS into this (,ollntr~· for houle COD e\"'e!

l'ntered upon, a!1d upon th~ dl'Clslon of inlportec.l to 1893, ~-ou will find ,\·hich the people will poll lURny Dlonths h~nce- 1l3~ the rate exceedt.-..l :;1 °S5 per c~nt.
:lnc] that the n'-f'r:lge of those ~·e--ars bus been 2S~ per cent.. is a refreshing and moderatin('P fact when taken If I did so, he ,,"ould knO\T' Just ns in connection~;th the a;sertion constantly friend.

much a8 I do,.

and I neT'er ,,"nnt un oppon- made by the oPP«H-1ents of the policy tha'"t UD(ler it th~ inlposts l"t'8ch 40. ;.0.

60.

70 Hn(l" (,Dt to kno,v fiS much as I know In~"self.

!

t."OUlltr~· IcolmU:iesl' and ho"" do ,,,c stnnd?

Pnrbanl':D~ halSI,-nlorem dnt)- )IE:\ffiERS.

Ha~ hn.. .
Ha~ hn.. .

theIr Yote~ not sumption frOID IS.!)

Mr. CHARLTON.

How many?

the ,,-ell- ~ discuss that th:lt 80 fur as!

at 3D)'" oppos~te ?

espeCIally is in foreo no,,-.

Mr. FOSTl!~Il.

elS her policy.

in no Y~:lr is concenu.,-d. is oue that if you' blke Some hOD.

Itl.at ";th tha t I cannot <1\ t'rage I the inT'ite other theln Tlult tiole, hone hon.

me~ tell the nl~~ Lt~t in .

Mr. CHARLTON.

Does the hon.

gentle- 100 per cent.

m:ln know ?

Some hone MR.'\IBERSo Hear, hear.

Mr. FOSTER.


I invite the hone g~Dtlenlan9 Mr. FOSTER.

True in regard to trivial ,,·bo will speak ~ the course of this debate, and indiTidual items here and· there but to be frank in.

this matter, as he h~ nev~r entirely nlis1~adlng.

as tending to jndu~' the been frank WIth the country or WIth this public to belie\"{\ that it is an Otltra200usl ' Y 7 REVISED EDITION.
195 (COMMONS] 196 I i~ for for But this ~~ritr goods borne lower in ft)r.-..e protective 311tttb~r point of that have been benefited, the one abounds everywhere, high rate.

That is a mode of argument which ~ ing at the present time 11lh pl~r cent.

or is open to hon.. gentlemen opposite, but at a shade below it.

But there is :tDother point l~ we must confess that it has not the of view to be taken, and that is that in merits of open, candid and complete truth.
Canada the National Pollcy, so far as the The rate per cent of Imports dutiable com- protective features are conoern~ has laid ing into the Uulted Stat~ hetween 1879 and no heavy hand upon the vast consuming 1S9.~ has never been ~low ~'1 per cent, and population so far as staple products of ron has gone up to 50 per cent, and the aver- sumption are concerned!, and I desire to 3g~ of those Yem'S is 45~ per cent, on the draw the attention of the House a con- moment to this point.

What are- they?
What are- they?

The !mported dutiable smnption in the United StA~tes; that i~ staples of living produced in this country Canada has in that the protective hon.

gentlemen opposite ha¥e al,,·ays de- policy has kept the market from periodical :lS being so absurdly :lnd outra~ and sectional demoralIzation, and that has nouncetl than the been its val~ and that Is the yalue of the {\usly high.

1~ ~r cent in th.~ pr,_ttective co\mtry principle of protection so far as it applies tariff bV' the shh~ of us.
th~ {7nitect States.. to the gt.C).ple products of the country.. which ,iew' which are produced in surplus..

But.

with reference tbere to these things, what is the troth of the mat for plain.

honest and complete troth must be brougbt out.

What the' people pay 3S the ter?


In lumber, In brl~ and in stone, which amount of the impost can only be fairly taken are the staples of building, this country has and fairly put if you take the total nmount a surplus, and they are not enhanced in In the lIl:ltter of fuel, of wood :md of goods that are brought in "lor home con- price.

the snmption and used by the people.


The very of coal: essence and concomitant of a national polley I second abounds in dllrerent portions of the on the protective system is that \,hile you i country in large degree; and since the year build np industries in the country, you lea ~e 1887 the onl~· remaining article of the fuel of the peopl~ in the shape of anthracite ~ has raw material which is not made in the COUD- try or grown in tile country, free.

as :l been free.
as :l been free.

So that to-day the fuel that the basis of cheap manufacturing.

and the duti- people of this country need for warmth and is free and untouchej by tlH~ able list :Iud the free list go side by 8ide f9r comfort:.

and have gone side by side under this polley; National Policy or its imposts.

If you come.. and the true Ineasur~ of the impost and ~ again.

to the st.1.ple food of the country, its so far as revenue is concerned, and so far as I vegetables, its frolfs, its grains.
Its meats, Its the people of CaD.&~da are concerned, is to find ; dairy products.

3.11 of these grow in tbis out what has been the dnty rate on the total l country to a surplus.

and the National Policy qlL'lntity of goods they have imported and: lays n. heavy hand of impost upon them.

cunsumed in this country.

Taking that as 1They are raised bere, they are raised in sur4> a Lasis, what do we find?
That in no year t plus, and, so far as the energy and power of from 1869 up to now, has there been more I the peoplo is concerned, they are hampered than 21·.

;")7 per cent dnty upon dutiable and !to no degree by the National Polley.

The non-dutiable goods on an average as an ad: tea, the coffee and the sugar of the people yworem inlpost in this country, and that the Ihave also been made tree under the National In the United IPolley-althou~rh average has been 19 per cent.
that W:lS .\ boon WhICh L<tst i could not be given by hon.

gentlemen oppo.

States less duty than ~1 isIte under their revenue pollcy-and millions two per cent; taxation.

have been remitted from all two years, since raw sugar was ~ classes of the people, especially the poorer the last the dutiable list a.nd put on the l people, on those products alone.

taken 01f The N:l free list, but, notwithst3nding that fa~~ J tlonal Policy has laid no heavy hand on the from 1879 to 1893 the.
:lverage !mpost on 1people so far as the consumption of these ar dutiable and free goods In the Umt~ States Iticles goes.

Let us come to t~.~ :o't;tHle :ir was 27~ per cen~ while in Canada it was tlcles of wear: the boots and shoes, upon !

which there is a tariff of 25 per cent, but 19 per cent.

Mr. CHARLTON.

What bas it been in the j every man knows that In Canada boots and !shoes are m~de 88 good and bought as cheaply \ 88 they are m any country in the world.

On I~ the last two,> ).~ In!


the cottons that are used by the people, the tho Umted States It has been _1-26 per Iaverage tari1'f has been about 28 per cen~ ~~ and 23·49 .per I I and cottons to-day can be bought in Canada, think the contention is fairly made and taking quality and price Into account, as is well that tariff as a whole and compare It "ith I the tari1f of protected countries, even ,8S I Some hon.

MEMBERS.

No to the dutiable list, it is 8, moderate tarllr.


on the average; and If you take in OODDOO· i Mr. FOSTER.

if yon ~e ,the cheaply as anyWhere else in tJle world.

United States during the last two years?

lower during I of there has never, it has becom,e years, b~n :i Mr. F.OSTER.

founded, cent: until that the So .

.

.

.

tlon with tbat the large tree list which goes' Into account, side by akle with the list of Imposts, tarUr 18 remarbbIy moderate, not exceed- c-~tton.
theIPl.ece8 of cotton placed befOI'E~ me, bleached Tak1ug quality antI cost I have had two I say yes.

Mr. FOSTER. "

.

19; tM.-\RCH 27.. 18941 198 that .

But sny that is unfair.

Mr. CASEY.

Xo.

Mr. }....OSTER.

t .

up t<, the .

:ueasure of the protretion wWch ...-\.ctually yes.

My bon.. : was given.

I!

it d~ not have that effect :\t all and friend may ne,er have seen the like-.

but I : w by should It e\'"er be 3doptetl have.

One of these I)i~ \,",is :l Canadian, wh:tt is the good of it?
Tht..~ fact lbat )'on cotton and the other a foreign cottoa and.

: llave a co~~- whieb is not in it~ then to look at them, they appeared equally ~; pr~n~ eoDdi~on able to compete with the but it you tore the foreign cotton.. the sl~eves ~ great industrIes and competitive power8 of of your coat would be cove-red with the ChlY the worl~ shows that it is n~ that filling with which it abounded; while.

if you· they shall have Ii vant.~cre ground upon which tore the CanadiaD cotto~ you h:ld the strong.

.
.

they may collect their fo~ upon which th(·y may deploy the industrial actlrtties.. steady fibre.

Take the woollens of the conn- try..

There ha..~ been an average impost upon ' ~pon which they may gain experIence.

and them of but 30 per cent and the woollen; In which they may get skitl ; and the object consumers of Canada have'been well supplied: of a protective ~ ~ to give that v:ulmge Eyen take ~un~.~~ in givIng It I ~~ admit ~\t with good matemd and cheap.
the iron that has been used In the rountry.

m the lDltial stages the prIce will be rtU&'<l upon which my hon.

friend opposite bas de- to a certain degree.

But I want to meet my dared undying and unrelenting warfdre, and ho~.

frien.ds opposi~e on this argument of with reference to ",·hich he bas dec1a.red that i th~ WblCh a~Un 18 not altogether trnthful that in their the moment be comes into power every' item ::\nd perfectly honest.

Th.«tt is: ()f duty goes off from iron.

The hon.

~Dtle-· speeches .


bef~re the country and in their man nods his assent to that one part_ of the l s~es.

m th~s.

House, they tax the Natiorull principle of his tariff which Is the i)nlv one t I olley WIth r:usmg the cost to the toll amolmt I have been able t; get from him.

i of the d~ty which each article be..'l.rS at pre Sir.

it may surprise my hon.. friend, ,,·ho h8~ .

sent.

Now I I probably not looked into it, to know.

that lti affirm that the only ~~~ of rise.


the ulti he will the country last year, and c.:tlculate the ad val-: ~3.ti~)nal Policy 18, the difference between orem dUty on the wbole of them.. it only f the Impost that it puts upon a certain line So that.

even with i of ~ and what would ha\'"':: ~n put upon .l.Dlounts to 22 per cent.

the outrageous iron duty that is spoken of so : that line under a revenue tanir,.

and a taritf much, when you take the high-priced.

-:\Btl I say this: the aver-; ~~ it hon.


~entlemen OppOSIte reproach the low--dutied and the free together.. age ad valorem duty last year amounted to!
National P011C~ with a ro per cent tariff upon about 22 per cent These are the four t:reat : !lanlware, w~~ ~ey put a ~7% per ~nt staples of manufactured products, and in that· Impost nPO.D It, .m perfect.. f~lrDess ~ ~e regard I hold that the National Policy has ~ cost t:hey C:ln debIt to the ~atioru\l PolIcy IS laid no heavy b3lld upon the people f ) f this; the nse between 17lh per cent and 30 p~r eountry, so far as the consumption of these t ~ent, or 12lh per cent.
it ; '~3S necessary to put a tarIff of 17¥~ per articles is concerned.

: cent upon i boots and shoes revenue Surely, you are not going; m~rely, wi~ the incident:ll protection that it I ga\e~ an.?

it the dut)· on boots nnd shoes to- da:r IS 25 per cent, do not debit the National Mr. FOSTER.

My hon.

friend wants me Pc·licy with the full 25 per cent of rise but to it.

it.

with what properly belOllens !n~melv, the 7th per cent.

Let us go further Iad valorem eqUlvalent upon all goods duti- 1dr.
LANDERKIN..

The chances are even ~ than this.

Go ~ck to 1878 and cftlcuL«tte the to ..tell him two hours in advance wha t I am debit going to do.

take the imports of iron into 'this: n~nt~ measw:e o~ nse I~ CO-.

'tt under the' for ~\enue purposes only.

to amend this very perfect taritr ?

If ~ey thought Mr. L...-\.URIER.

able .and :tree brought in to this country, Mr.. FOSTER..

They are even yet Now I and It is 14 per cent.

Calculate it to-~Iay ,,·1th regsrd to the lunuies.


The tax in this t and it is 17% per cent, and debit the Na <.oountry under the National Policy has not f tiona!

Pollcy with what belongs to it.

~n excessive and the rate which hag been !

namely, a rise on the total consumption of placed upon luxuries is a rate which they t ~e country cent.
~()W, nm quite able to bear, and which in any l 811", th:1t, tonn of the tariff they should bear in their I in the initial stages of a protective polley, contribution to the public service.

Anothpr I the prices of goods manufactured under it objection that has been made to the NationalIwill be enhanced; but I am here to state the cost of many manufacturedIinvests itself.

as industrial establishments Pelley and to the protective principle in It,.
another fac~ and that is, that as capital is: goods has been enbanced to the consumer multiply, as they become diversified and on account of the rates imposed.

Now, SIr.

distributed the I grant that argument at once to a certaln power of Internal competition comes In to e..~tent.

I ~ -lliat In the lnltial years of take the place of external competltlon-a a.
National Polley with a protective prln- competition In many cases more keen and it will have the e1rect of en- destructive than the foreign oompetltio~ clple In It, hancIDg the cost of goods, and that at the owing to equal coDdltlons .of production and first the cost of goods wDl be very closely equal condltfoDS of carriage and dlstrib.

I have been tmnk to admit throughout 3% per country, Yet.. .. that the for of 71 .

\ 199 be tht.· "\\":,~ the lift' ~l)-S.. ~r,-~~\l eVt'r~' !
::-,1t.1 "l'hat it at lUust l~)"'er 1\)1h.

:-~- l~"opl{l".

11lolie~- f ..ieutl to tb:lt in this }.\lnuted, ,,-llicb laf in 1878. anll t.~V("l·.r })olling.. antI l'OlIDtr.r "rhi~ is Xational ,,-hi\4h h:l~ .l)(~,~n lllultil)lit.

":ltion of tlh.

'y ttlou,I h.) ("orne i to tlli~ ~Y~h'ln h:l~ hl"taU :l hli::ht .l ~ro"'niD~ (\bjl"Ction tb:lt: bon.. ; :lronnt1 us.

~ir HI CII..\ H1.)

C.-\ UT\Y l:.H a rr.


:It' \,-ith our P~~~llt position.•nul It i~ ('ue llf thl~ Ul('~t : D,'t lU.lkt~ up ttur luintls h) livt:A :ll\va~-s :U"t-~ i eipll' lbe l~~)llle of Caunda Il:lYtl.

:liltl indu~tri,-los; try.. ~ell ~ilnl)l~- at the l'ost or.

:lntl ti(~n in the rountry.


:l~ pnttlnt fnets in th~ bi8tory of tlu~ ~.ltion~l1l a l)tlool)le 8huPb- ~iYitlg t.'ur :ltt(\nti"u to OUt' Poliey he-re, ns ill tht~ hi8H)r~- of prot~tion: khu1 of "\'·....rk.. nnd one kiutl \)nl~-: th\~~t~ in the rniteotl 8'.lt('S.. in l~t~rlnan;r.. .1u,1 in ~80Ur(~·s lllust be deYeloped; those ,"nri\~l other e-.\ulltri("s-3uU :1 fact th~lt l~lnnot be; indnstries \,-hieh bU'-tl.
ul:ull" lhta life of :\11 eontrn..U~t~l-tb~lt .. ~lltho\1~b there is at tirst· ~r~at eountri("s.. are ill,lisl)t"nssbl~ ('()UIl- ~" ht~igllt,~nillg of l\l;\.,'S.

-.lo"-D.. by thllo ptl.rw'lll and.

the \.."OU1lw'titi,.n \\'hit'h r~'~ults thl"rt"fronl, ~ ll.lltl~- })}:Ulh"'d.. ,,-~1I: lmtil tile l)rothu.

"€'rs in til(\' 1l1l·r("1~- Hying })rotit.• competing l'ireUlustnnce-s ~ln\l di~~tl\-:uUtlge~ manutaeturill~.. }llus :l tlu.
"r~' is no ,,-ay b~- ,,"bieh "'p But.. Sir, gentl~nl\aU t:lko to the XHtional is: ("·un t10 tll:lt ('thtar tb:1U by lunking tl1\a llt.~""\.

'~­ that it is ,Hl otf~priug- of ~·t"ed ,luti st"ltish: S:lr~· s:lerifiee--by obtnining for oUr'Sl'l,·eos tll~ cupidity on th~ l),lrt (~f till· :fe,,--of :l d~sir\.'
: \".lnt:l~t\ ~ronlld.. l~Yl"n th~augh ,yc hu,-c to first.. in ,)rder th:1t tlloS(~ iu amongst Sl)Jlh~ tH r,)b~ nUt.l :tu :l('tluit~~l~n~t.~ p:ly f,)r by tbe gl'(\:lt lllajorit~r in bt.\iu~ robl)t-d.. until dn~tl"ies lU:1Y be deYt.lololll"tl.. nnd ill ord~"r the l)rlX~ss is h.·~:lliZlad: :uul thl'U it b\"-; that "'t' UU1Y ~ro\\- Ull to be ~l l)r()~n'~h-~ th,' ll"~lliZt-'tl' :lDl1 ~~lf-tll"I\t~n(1l~ut (.~mt'~ S~ llly hOD.

-rht.'
-rht.'

Y\~r~- f()rl"'\~ :lIul l""t."'helu~nee ,,,t: l'rineil)h~ t:,kl"U bold of 3ud l~lnbOtli("tl in tht' I'obber~·.

an :ls..~ertion Ukl" ttl:lt di~pr,)Y~s it.

l)rin ,\ fre..~ t.'ountr)- ; thl" free 11lt.

'1l of C:luad:\ l)(.~'n trlit.'

:In int~ni~ent ))t~)pll'.. :lUt} t h\~y m:lke llll'it": ,nt'} "'h):ltl~' :l t (lo'-t'ry ill rep.~sentntive~ \uld,~..~hln,l \vb:n tbpy "',Ult ; ; ~l,-,·..:~tif.n ~'1:-\'r ~in('t.".

X,t"-.

~ir.

~\llotlh·r ~tah"­ luade "-i~h"l~' b)' h'~ll.


and their r"prl~8t'nt,1ti\"t.~s l'h:bt tluickl~- 1)\1t; Hh"_:t ~)ll tho 8t:lt\1h"-l\\~k ,vhat th~~ people ID:lkt.")..

~,"ntlt.

"nl~n Hi\I"l81h~~Ulotht"r of tlll)~t.'

uul,l them untlpr~tand the~- think ou~ht to ~o' :and )u"tlt~r:HP st:H'~lnt'ut~--i~ th:n thi~ ll\alh·y Th~rl' is thl~ str3ight.. ()n tbo Shltute--book.
:llul a ~~t :lud t"n"'~8t COlllnnmie:ltion bet" ~~ll tbe l·lU~'.· tu 4':lu",hl-·- ,uu1 It"~islntj'·e constitU~llt.·ies ,,-hi~h ar(' tbe basis ot" tht.~ h.logis};ltive l)\)\\·,~r ~ :lnd DO lon~ ~'e"rs of llill~--(l:dl~-ing.. 110 lou~ IIp:lr.

tIll.'

~'~a~ of ,llllla~·.

t:lkl" 1l1aee bet'Vt.lot.

'll l"X pres~ioll of the Ilt.

"ople"s 8t:""utiments nt t11\"\ polls .In(1 th~ ("r~-st:lllization of tbnt ~tlonti.. lueut tbt"\ St~ltutl~book8 of the eountl..\~.

A.ntl to S;l~· th~lt :l s~'st~m like this.


~lnva~s­ ed from one end of thi~ t."ountrv to the utileI"' in lS'i'S, ~for~ an intelligent Canadian ~lf'l"t­ orate-(~:ln\":l~~f"d e\-er siUl"l"'.

nnd dt....·itl~d four tiUlt.ll:-: at tb~.

polls~ nnd tlh\-tl~-s b~' the &'"lUle int~lli~ent electorate---ean be set dv,,"n as the eupit.lit~- nnll selli8hn~~s of a fe'\" t,) rob the Pt.~ollle under the ~li8ll.

of hl\'-.. i~ to luake oue of those :u~~crtious.. so extnl y... a~'Snt.

and ronseqnentl~" so h:lrluless.


tll:l t I wonder hon.

gentleluen Ol)positl~ have llut reformed th~~ir llletb~ls in t his rl~spect.. au,I come down to mUtler nllc.l Illore moderatl' tll~re ,,"as n language.

I .. str,-)n~("r rensoll for noble-r sentinlent :llltl the adoption of the Nntional Policy in lSrS than tht~ one just gh·eu.

I look upon it that tht~ X:ltion:ll Policy in 18'i'8-\Yhos~soe\-cr brain oonl~h"ro it.
,,-here,er tbe plan C:lIDe the right moment, and in from--eame at answer to a 8elltitneut th:lt "'us gr'\\\iug :lDll deT'eloping in tht~ (~)lmtry-tbe ~ntinl(\nt :, gro,,-ing knowlt"lo(}ge of C:1U springing ft:'Olll ada's resources and Canada"s greatu('SS: a sentiment of hope and aspiration.

EYer~' 3'-~:lkenin~ feeling of roln~~ peol)ll~ up ]ustit..l' m;ulbood tuok hold of tb~ idea tJlat at "-as embodietl in tbe Xational Policy.
Thlll~" said this : Here ,,-{\ are.. 011 this continent, a sluaJI people, ,,;dely ~p.

'lrated with geo graphical diftlcultles.

but with imm~nse antI almost boundless natural resources; we can.. Mt".

F()Sl'EU.

A UtI IllY hun.

frh.~lhl i~ kin,.

(,lu)u~h tn t.·ulph:lsize the 'ls.."\~rth~u \yhh..h I Jun-," Ill'l,lp.

iu bi~ usu:ll \'lllph'Hh.~ \\'3)'.

:l n~l in doing so.. to bt"ll) lllt..'" in tl1t~ :lll~\\'\'l' \\"hh~:l :\111 ~Oill~ to ~i\"~ to tbnt stat~lut."Ut.
1f I tbl· ~:ltion~l1 l~oli('~- :lnd the- prottA('tiYC S~·~­ :,ntl a curs(\ to C::lll 1\"\IU h:l~ l,(~~ll :l blight n-.l:1. it h:\~ b:l\1 a \-tlory \~14.1 \\-n~" of ~h•.~,,-iu,;: l"'ake the })t.llriOtl coyen.

"tl b:r the Xati(.ll~ll it.

Poli\~~·.. :lntl ('ontNl~t it ,Yith :lU;r otlll'r })(~rit~l in the histor~· of C',ulatln"s ~o\\-th : bn~ thl"I'l~ l"Veor be(l'll a :~ lU01'(, lleriOtl?

pr(~l)erOu~ ~ And this r(ll~ult h:l8.

bt.


""l·u nl'"hievetl-it is thl· dark spot in the prospect-notwithstanding that the National Policy has ~n the fnct dt'pr~b\ted h~- n\~:lrb' one-balf or'" Ul(l' 1't"Ollle of this (,-ountr.r~ ,,"ho belong to one poliU(':ll party, and despite the groans and sigbs :lU,l lamentations and objurgations of hon.

gtau... tlem~n opposite thnt hn~..lo been launeb~l :lgaingt if tlu.lly it.
tb~ hnd been :l:,,'e- l~n IM)lh.~~·; but tb~ troubl.... Inunl~hed a~ninst the ('o\mh"~ :\8 ,,"ell ]u in blighting tbtl.

}a"lle and :1Sl'ir:ttiou.

ge-ntlt" bUll.

llU'D.. b~" tile \-ery V~h\l.luellOO nnt!

.,bS1U'\lit)" of tbt~mst..).lT'es ,,"hat they declared the Xationnl Policy ,,-as -a blight and a curse to this countr~".
Thou... sands of people are- to-day" far distant from Cnlludian ho:ue~ in countries to "')lich th~)" \yish th~y bad neTer gone, and ,,'hich t bel' \yonld be ~lad to It~:n"e; there for "'hat r('880D : \~reatioil of dt'sl)t)nttelu.·;- thl"\St"ll tilul I InlUl(~!ll~t SltUl'ly bri~ht(!'r.

:l stronger.. Rt"'l.~\USf\ Sir, of f;udt.

",g;linst language.. havl1.

stron~r :iDtl into that \\'ould unt :tn(1 tile)· 8:1Y.
Sir, pro~~l'(l.8Shil~ is thl'\~' their tilu{\.. 1l10l"(ll that nr~l.. }){ll\~n t)ll :1 Mr.. FOSTER.

201 [MARCH 27, 1894] 202 tor the last bave years, Oh,oh.

fourteen Hear, hear.

introduced; Some hon.

MEMBERS.

SoIlle hon.MEMBERS.

the vision of whose privations country.

tbe slul and doleful pictures and prophecies of hon.

gentlemen opposite.

Mr. FOSTER.

My bon.
friends read it as some people read the Bible, to find just what they want and nothing else, but if they read it carefully and read it all through, the~' will find evidences of dh~ersifi.cation which bear out my MBertion that almost everything required in this country is to-day made by the mechanics, artisans and work people of Canada~ Our industries have not yet overtaken the home consumption of the people, but are gradually growing up to the point of meeting the consump.t;1ve demand in Look at the lists of raw ma tbe country.
teri3:-1 which have been brought in and which show the prol;reBs 'o!

nllr mannfacturing in dustries.

Let Us take some of the principal onae : happines.~ of the people have increased enor mouslyas regards themselves, and compara tiyely as regards other peoples ~ so that to-day it is a truism-no argument is required· but .

the bare statement is sufIlcient-that the pep- Mr. :n~OST:mR. Hon.

gentlemen may treat pIe of Canada, taken as a whole, are.
as pros thh; matter liF;htly and assume a careless perous and comfortable as the people in any countenance, but it shows rather a selfish other part of the world.

This makes out, I think, a strong prima facie case against the and callous heart after all when they must their lack of faith in and their assertion th~,;t the National Policy has been know thAt depreciation, of Canada have caused the ex- a blight and a curse to this country.
It has patriation of thousands of their too confiding changed the whole face of business in this countrymen, Old industries have been broad them nightly in ened and enlarged; new ones bavebeen and distress should haunt there has been a great diTem their dreams .and .daily in their thoughts.

Read the census ot But, Sir, if this National Policy was a bligUt fication of industrtes.

and a C1,ll'se to 'the ·countrY,.it has had an to· day.
odd way of showing it; for, from 1878 to the present time, the revenues of this coun try and abundant, buoyant been deficits wbich, were numerous and tbe under hon.

gentlemen opposite, .

have disap- -peared, and surpluses have taken their places.

'rhe $H.OOO,OOO minus sign has become $20, 000,000 with a plus ~gn.

Capital expendi ture, has been aided on an average of one and a half millions yt~arly or more, by tile overplus 'from Consolidated Fund revenues.
The credit of the country has steadily advanced and the interest rate on our debt steadily decres.sed.

The financial conditions of this countrY have been sound, though our peo ple have taken, during these late years, they should, every coun as it was right sel of prudence.

stress In the periods of and storm, which have recurred from time to time.
in the cycle of fourteen years, Can .ada has stood the' strain better than ever sht' did during similar periods before, and com- ' paratively with other countries hM passed them well and come out of them prosperous In those fitteen years, our record has ly.

The locomotives ot been one· of progress.

Canada to-day travel ten tbousand miles more of rails than they did in 1878.

They transport 8,000,000 more passengers and 17, 000,000 more tons of freight, and they earn $33,000,000 m9re.
They pierce every portion of the older provinces, they extend like a net work through the North-west, and reach the sea shore ot'British Columbia, and with our canal system, which has been enlarged and extended, with our steamslrl,ps plying from ports on the Pacific and the Atlantic to all points of the compass, they form great lines of, transport, developing Canada, binding to gether the dlfrerent parts of the country, turn1shing means of outgo and carriage for our surplus products, and bringing closer to gether the colonies and the mother country.
That is the record written in broa,d lines, and it does not bear out the assertion that the National Policy has been a blight and a curse to this' country.

Tbe condi~on of the people has improved..

The $87,000,000 of earnlngs, which they had saved 1n 1878, has become $243,000,000, an increase or!

180 pel' The aggregate wealth, comfort and cent.


PIg and scrap iron, which in 1878 was in troduced to the amount only of 34,000 tons, was imported in 1893 to the amount of 1'07, 000 tons, while 48,000 tons were made in this show iDlcrease and expansion in the wonderful industrial developments which has taken the regime of hon.

gentle- place.

Hides, &c RubbE>r .Jute. "

.. " LWl,I berand timber( foreign) Veneers .

Hemp.
Hemp.

.. Furs and skins Ra.w silk.~ Corkwood Broom com 862,113 380,577 877,364 80,038 1,f50,134 785,4.113 206,471 72,963 146,987 187,234 8,770 200,984 10,541 199,179 148,909 32,004 12,095 89,954 252,644,060•2,045,175 19,876,872•1,202,390 country itself.

These Wool Cottons Raw sugar 10,503,645 40,263,383 6,230,084 8,011,759 Imports.

things Under 1893.

Ibs.

Ibs.

187~.

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203 [COMMONS] 204- men opposite, most of our manufactured goods we would have imported from abroad, paying the artiBan and the workingman in .the foreign country.

Under our pollcy we Import the raw materials duty free, we make them up, and Canadian capital, Canadian brawn and Canadian brain has a chance to do this work.

My hon.
My hon.

:frtends opposite are 80 much in love with the CellSu.~ tbat I must give them some more figures from it In order to inform them upon some points which they have not found within its columns.

Cheese factories, value of produce, 1891.. do .

.

.

.

do Flour mills Sugar refineriee do .

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.

do Meat, fish, fruit and vegetable curing.

.

.

• 9,784,288 52,416,586 17,127,100 16,057,968 TotaL..... .. $95,385,942 - Iron and Steel industries.

!

1--------- 1891.

[ 1881.

I I Increase.


Establishments, - - - - - - - - - \ - - - - - 10,411\ 1,927 10,299 40,028 '12,2(Y7,864 '17,899,336 15,691,172 9,782,830 No...... .

.... Employees.

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.

.

.

Wages.. .. ....

Raw material.

'11 17'833'006127'615'8.

'36 pro- Finished duct ......... 1 4O,19'~,694 12,3.

'i8 5O,3~71 23,243,435 63,436,12:1 I Leather The wood Industries in 1881 had an output of $59,022,196, and in 1891 this output had become $80,536,737.
industries, boots and shoes, show an increase of $1,124, 478; saddlery and harness, $648,028.

Tex tU~ show an increase from $13,258,197 to $17,472,226 as between 1881 and 1891.

Oheese factories show an increase of $5,464,454; fiour mills, $10,621,671 ; sugar refineries, $7,- instruments, 230,100; musical $2,173",018 ; paper and pulp mills, $2,147,850; furriers and hatters, $1,631,980; tobacco and cigar mak The wages paid in Oanada ers, $2,682,219.
in the wood industries as between 1881 and 1891, shown an increase $6,994,223; leather industries an increase of $794,331; textiles an increase of $1,767,659; food· in dustries show· an inarease of wages of $1, instrument manufactories 864,921; musical an increase of $555,400; pa.per and pulp mills,.

$693,101.

of Sir RICHARD CARTWRIGHT.

I ask the hon.

gentleman's pardon for a moment.

In speaking of "textiles" I understand him to mean all kinds of woollens as well as cottons, and so on.

Mr. FOSTER.
Mr. FOSTER.

Yes.

Furriers and hatters show an increase in wages of $161,669.

Tak.. 1ng these and a few other industries which I have given, the total increase in wages in 1891 over 1881 is $19,580,044- Mr. OHARLTON.

Woul<\ the hon.

gentle man be kind enough to give the total amounts for 1881 and 1891, so that we may judge of the percentage of increase as well as the total ?

Mr. F08'I'ER.

I am anxious to give my hon.


friend all the information I can, but it happens that 'I have not the totals by me, and I must ask him to ,exert his investigating tlWUltLes for the informa.tion required.

Mr. CHARLTON.

I judge the hon.

gentle man might do that hlmselt.

Mr. FOSTER.

The following is Ii BUID IJiaiy of Ca.nad1a.n industries by the census retums :- 1881.

1891.

V ARlATIONS• ----_._--------- ..

Per cent.

- - - - - - - - - No.

- .- - .

- : No.

- - - - ; - ct•• ~:'-i-~-I~i-.


Increase.

I Number of establish- ments 49,923.......... 75,768...... 25,845 I "1 51 '8 Capital invested.

.

.

.

.. 165,302,628.. .. '" 35.1,836,817 188,534,194 \ 1 Number of employees..

2.'54,935.

367,865............ 112,930 WagtlS paid.

.

.. .. .... '" -... 59,429,002 .

.. .. 99,762,441.

... .. ..

Cost of raw ma.terial... 179,918,593 255,983,219.. .

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.

Va.lue of products..... 309,676,068........ 475,455,705........ !
44'431 I , 40'333' 439 1......

I 76,064,626. .

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I : I 165,769,fi37 i 1 114' 67'84) taken plaoe the tlle country in this So that my assertion that a notable change parison between 1881 and 1891, are r~llable life the.

statistics of 1891 being as reliable and bas of the even more carefully collected than those of" substantiated by the 1881.

But, 'Sir, there have been great changes .


National Policy is statistics in fonrteen years in the imposts put upon ijle best statistics at our cOmmand, Invite the attention of hon Which, .taking them as the basis of com- people, and I industrial period of in Mr. FOSTER.

~05 r~I.A.RCH 27, 1894J -- -_.-..-., ----.

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-- '- --- the this have time, Coulltr~·.

.Another been the Now, Sir, luallY chnnges !

)eople of have Since taxes ,vere vision of the tnriff, to this j an actual, positive and immediate benefit the NatioIL.~l Policy~ be equaltr iu giving us Crl-~it for the pockets of the people.

it not unnecessary_ ~Ir.

Speaker, gentlemen opposite for a moment to The history of the National Policy ~ the tax-payers of this country, a benefit ,,'ell point.
has not been ,,~ho!l~" a history of raising the ; diffused over every part of this country.

So import duties, although hone gentlemen op- ~ that, taking these things altogether-and I posite are fond of so representing it.

The ask my hone fliend's attention to this-th(' ~ational Po.licy has had attendant aggregate amount of taxation remitted sint(' two The first 188"2 on the al-ticles I features ,vWch should be noted.
enumeratetl 'while chnnges were made in the amounted to $29,500,000, or an average of is that, imposts upon dutiable goods, the free list has a.bout $2,500,000 a year.

F01· 1892-93.

I haye been constantly expanding, and to-day it is had.

the pleasure of announcing in Parliament very large.
is that burdens and ; that we had a surplus of $1,354,000, had \ve imposts have been repeatedl~" taken from; kept the taxation on these articles, taxation the backs of the people from 188t1 up to I"Yhicll ,vas imposed upon them, when the the present and that by the very!

National Policy had its inception or in its persons who supported and believed in the; first years, I should have had to add to that if ~"OU wish surplus the sum of $5,000,000, which ,,·ould National Policy.
the impost8 we put have represented so IUuch more taken from to debit us with all I have thought on under to enter frank and honest those we haye taken off-and.

the~" are upon these obSerY:Hions before coming more in the matter particulnrly to the ,york of explaining the re neither few nor triYal.

Sir, of bill stamps and ne"'spapers, :lud I have done it bf\ So far as the second is concerned cn use of the oft r~peated objections \vhich taken off.
I am not prepared to say that the change have been Illude to the principle of the tn.riff, lightened the burdens of the people, but it and because I think it ,,,,ell that they should lightened sOluebody's burdens certainly, and be brought up in Parlhnnent, nnd thDt the ar if the benefit did not go to the people gener- O'uments in reply to thenl should be stated to ally, it ,vent to that very enterprising class Now, Sir, of people in our country who disseminate in- i there since formation for us~ and V~lj7 often ~'ive us in- !
tR7S.

the Xa formation that ,,·e could get in no other wa~·.

Itional Policy fourteen years have gone b~".

,,·hen we come do\yn to other things, IChanges ha~e taken place in the hGsine~s But there can be no doubt n00'1t where the belle~t \conditions of this eount~ itself, c~h~l.U;;~s In HOD.

gentlelnen OPPOSIte, when III Ithe value of ra,v matenal and of nlaunfac went, power, taxed tea 5 and G cents per pound;; tured products changes which, so far as the under the National Polic~!'
thnt tax ,vas taken i ad valorem equivalents of duties :lre con..

They taxed coffee 2 and 3 cents a ~ cerned ha'f'e made a. very great di.ffe!.

'cnce off.

polmd; under the National Policy that tax l as to 'the nature and rates of 'imposts be ,vas done a,va~r .

"·ith.

l'L'he this country have, man)~ of tbracite coal.

,,~hlCh at the beginnIng of the!


industries of National ~olicy ~Yas ;,0 cents ~er ton, "·3S Ithem, well r.rhe taken off In 1881 ~ and anthracIte coal has Iamount of protection which they ,1eedoo be representing a less- i fore they do not need to 80 great a, tlegree been free eyer SInce, about!

to-d~Y.

and for some years an opinion has ening of duties ~hree-qu~rters of a million dollars a ~ear: 1 bee~ ~g ground among the people.
t~nt rhe duties on glass have been reduced, the I the time for a revision has come, nn opuuon duties on salt have been reduced; the duties!

,,"bleh was recognized by the Govern~nent on molasses hnve been reduced one-half; and, Iwhen they said to Parliament last year that three ~"ears ago the duty ?n i the time had come for a complete re-exam more than all, raw sugar ,vas completely taken off, remlt- 1ination of the whole matter of our tariff ar ting taxation to the Ulllount.
that had former- I rnngenlents in order the anomalies cx Ii~ting might be done a,vay with~ and that ly been collected.

i the tariff might be brought le,"el with t~e.

e..x.. Iisting circumstances n~d changed.

con~ltionS Iof business not onlv III Canada.

but In for- Those hear, no doubt With a thc~ermg Idea In h1.

'4 !changes have taken place, and those changes I ,,·ish again to state mind :that when.
we admIt on raw sugar bem~ taken ott the taxes of as forcibly as possibly that the argwnent the people w~re so mucb lightened, therefor: -not strong at all, but used largely, and tend we have 8:dmi!ted that a duty under the N~ in to deceive in some .regards, if not care tlonal PolICy IS alwa)·s a tax.
But there IS ~ considered-that the argument tis com- every difference be!weep a duty C!~ a~ar~~ Ple~IY baseless, the policy of protec which is made in this cOlUltrY,the lIke 0 ~ 1m tion dep..ends upon the per cent of impost on entering the .c~untry bas to me~t this t that shall be put upon a certain article.
Be- - post, and an artiCle not made In this coun rycb' recognizes, as all the conditions of e every cent of an import duty upon whl must come directly from the pockets Ofdthe COOfle last 11 to rear- So' the remission of three an people ".half nil1llon dollars of dutIes on sugar was fourteen years, and tba that rec::ve e'cbanged ,,1tbin s we Some hone l\IE~lBERS.

Hear, hear.

4' !ux.

on.

an- !tween those times and the present da.y.

!Iea~, eign countl~ies, at the present day.


the duty Ihave been recognized.

~Ir."FOSTER.

1\~y hon.. fne~d s~ys the Government established themselves.

inception tune of to the us ness t it I that, that fuat The the niz us en of a • :!O'i lCO~Il\IO~S] 208 : 4 t h i~ :l t tht\ hone sonle t:u"iff.

tt.t-Clcl~·~ ,yhiell is not rC'Wt~lllle la:o'tl .... gentlemen 1 '" a"\.t .. , leS Ilv .

th~.

present the C:cH"erI1Jnent l\Ir.


GILI..JIOR; IHn-e })3s~cd of fi nandal tlHlt situation ns regards l:18t ~·e=n· in Par- of to shelve tile I "we do to get ahead of the tllat Jlr FOS1'EH I think I coulu.

to nble SlU·I)lus; Oil it take thch·.

8ttlud 8qunrel~~ rl"~ll·I'allgeIUt'llt of it to I thh~ lIoll:O;~.

The hrief l'evic,," that I t·"lltlitions of husiJle~s 11lt'\\" ha~\.

"(l on' alnlorlHal ('on(1iti()u~ : allrl "we ,yere simpl)' turning the corner, I House tlla t It is not iIUpossible.
You tIle conclusion that cannot find a bit of protection in the Briti~h range the t:Jriff to 8uit tho~e ch:luged condi- J·'l~.. t'lf_\" t - .

lOllS, tlu.'!

'('fol"e t he t~Hw.."l"nllll·llt h:,,-c gone bndi upon thp principle of 1)l"4.l1eetiull.

or deuie,!

f the eurdiual prindple of tlu~ Xatjonnl })nlies· • .

iu("ou:-oequl"utiul.

anti an I JIl:.

G-lr..L~IOlt Then )Won have got to un SU'~h' rp;I:-ooJ;ing arp.

:'lllnellt \"hkll hilS IlCiUH.

'r logie or furet),.• 1 I tor 1l.


\yish t.o stah~ lJere that the t,;O,"erllment of to-I Jlr.

}~osrrER.

I haye to ackno\\"ledge that ..In:L ;llul tl.ll" purty ,,-hidl ~ll}lIl()rt8 the UoyeJ"ll- 'I in cOluill;: to &1. re\-i~ioll of the taritT.

and a IUt.

'lll of .time, tht.~rc nre t,,·o diffieultie8 that have to be ullcl firlHI~" upon the Clll\)OtlllllPllt HUtl ull..n} the IH"e~...'rYHtiou of the IU·iuciplc of protec- Tille tirst difficult~· i8 t.he depression luet.
the d~gr~c of tlutt Itrotec- prices 'Yhieh exist over a lar~e part of the tiou in the t.uitf.

Ilulllufaclnrin~ \yorld to-tlny.

and 'Yhich :U'C lion tu be accol'dillg 1'0 th~ circnnlstnnoos of the intlll:o't1·~· :lutI the :\11(1 of trntlp at the pre8(~nt tilue.

Rut, ,~heu .

othl~l· tlitticnll\w is the fact that ,,'C arc t'ace the)W do that, they ;lre not to be tnunted ,vith to f:l~e "with· n. in gOill~ lmek upon tJlcir ""tHey.

crl"n:-oia;:.

hut.
crl"n:-oia;:.

hut.

on the contra".r~ is rathl~r 'Tile a.rgu- lllt.\Ut i~ n.-.t :':0111141. :Iud (':lllllftt fair]~" he used.

fullin;!.· Tlll-8e t.,,-o l.·anses make it difficult that they ha,'c therefore repuclinted the cnr- I to-d3'" to l"t.'\yise and nrrange the tariff, Ilolie~" for I :uul "the)" nlu~t both be l:tkeu into :lceuullt dill.

:ll p.rinciple anti plank I)f theh- the.

~o tlwt the~e e]~ange~.l in the ('onsi~eratioll of tIle recoIllluendutio1l8 ~~(":ll·:o'.

a.... ::·1 ha'"l" ~:l1fJ.


h;lYlll~ Ilt.

"cn reec)gIllzed It I \yhicll the U("Wcrluucnt are to pl~lce before bl'cI.

)me~ Jle('e:--'~:lr)· 1"01' llladc c~n·r~· out its ]l]l"uge ghw""11 tht.~ the liaulenr.•l plt.

'.lge ,Yhicl1 "'as lightl~" treated luonth:--: the In·cSt-ot 0ltposite, who finnncial ~-enr.

"will be sufficient to show the bY' ,,-e do not ex])cct this )Wcar" and thQught not expect next rcnr.

nllY consider ,\"ho thought ,ve only ,,,:ultetl (lUt:l.~ticHl for :lllotller ~·eal· :l1HI.
perhaps, the conu·nr~w, we expect go before the electoru te.

",;U require the elo~est eCOUOIUY hone gentlenl(~n opposite HUH ~teal their clothes in order eXltentlitur('~ ,,"ith· to k(~ep the -it indeed thpy han~ au.\" r(·\W(·lHle~ COlue "·clrth sH>:llin~" Th("h' clot Ilt~s h;l\we hecollle so I eUllsulidatC10 fund.

tnking tlle~e t\'°f) dt~pres­ ,"nrieg-at(lo(l for YC:U":o' c·r the principle of 1Government hns c.onle to it~ (,~()llclu~ions "\"lith t:lkc!
hone gentle-l reference to the tariff, and is prepared to pl"otcetiou in the t:u·itl'.

·Ulen opposite be equally frnnk ~llul 8:1,)" upon I submit to the good judgment of the tnke their stand?

House, and of tbe countl·~... Now, there are "'h:lt princil,}e tlte.r some things that I ha,\"'e not attempted to ,Yill "'I14tt he told the people of Ontuio last yea.

', 'I do, that the Government have not found it that he "would IU:lke a talit!
out of which possible to do, in the rearrangement of this e\Wer~· ,·estige of protection shall be exorcised.?

I mritr.

It llas not been possible to proceed !upon any fixed rule of uniformity, any fixed ~I' plnn of llorizontal reduction.

The tarit!

which was made in 1878 "·3S a practical tari1f, ana Ithe tariff \vhich is to be arranged during roo this ses --ion nlust also haTe that feature it trad~r In thIS I!0~.,e~ an?
he ~omes f~m I possible~ of being a practical taritJ, and ~ust ~haI ~otte c?un~ ~ ~.B.!

~ b.o ~1ns no beslta.- , take cO<7nizance ot the varving conditions or to nOll III 8:1rlug \vh·.

t .

d~es ?o~ se~k to befool or befo~ the peoille thenl, on the principle \vhicll ,,·e have stated, reason~bly due b~ stating In a rou~dabout.. way what ~he the propo~es to do.

~e IS frank enough to suy to to order that, l~ b:e were J?
po~er, ~e wO~d appl~ In aintain possihle in,ll1stl'it~ in their posi the .prInclple of ~tee tr.lde .md take eve~s ItiOll the to ad vestige of protection out of the tariff of thiS GOYel'llluent oount:ry .

laule with r~fer­ ;Let me .tell that hon.

gentleman.

Oilt that .if he .1S follo~wg the leader of the Op- ence specific position WIth the Idea th~t "when he gets into and ad ,·aloreJu duties.

Some condemn power at ~ome future.

tlme-I do not ~ow I specific duties entirely; otbers.
favour spe ~ow far distan~-he ,viiI exorcise.

every yes· cifie duties.

especially on certclin lines.

I tlge ot protection from the tarIff.

he has think the truth lies bet,,·een the two ex.

in some respect~, In ~e tremes.

pinned his faith.

to a broken reed.

the s~ond plac~, It .l~ l>ertectly ImpracticableIfrauds 01 ~aluation ; in other respects they first place, he \Yl~l !l.ot be able.
to do !t; In are absolutely necessary to guard against are llseful in iIiducing the consumption or a._ six: or .1 oscJlh's C4)a t I sioJl prices that exist and the necessit)· the reV'euue too largely, )[r. GILL:\IOR.

Yes.

rI~] J{.

FO~T:Fp o.. ~· foutle} an~· haled aud fast protection ,\"h~cJ.t fiud thel)) " lll~· hone friend tell the House to-day', industries and must mete out se'oell Ithin~ ·~lle yexed question of ))olitienl clothes I ill to-dn)'" !

not pnring off the)' (·,-,lours.


~tn~d lll~ pl,nClp!PS al·e.

\'·hil~t tht- ,viII III t1u~ co.untr,r.

"-ithin the la~t .

lere 18 one Specific duties, it practicable ,,·110 different th'~ that Ilnt.

anrl nnposslbl€' -Seithel" hus Illanr our ne\~~s.~ua).

:lecount, ont ri \":11 cuunll·)·.

ones thenl hoth fila t. ,V'ill this into into ll!tOll the ,,·e ....: th~ to ill is ill ·h I. t f • 1\11"0 F08TEn.

Jt __ • 209 l ~I.A.RCH :!

;, 1~94] ~lO r 1 it it ~f If }i-HUI.

rafe 1l1«Hle l:lrg-f'.


rt-~ I :lllll l-'OS~"EU" to Hllse th?

good artIe]..s. \Voollell goods.

the (ll1l~" HI,oll gallc)ll~ and )"et I thl"r('fore I aclol.h......l the .cost.

of <hstrluntltHl In specl~c duties; ~Ir.

I-"'OSTERo I pl·efer upon the eheaper!

s..~lf.

Two flH· c:IH,'UI.C'uiug' Sir ItICHARD C.A.HT\YltIGIIT.

the h~n.

gentleUl:Ul h:l111ls of :\Ir.

)III...LS (Botlnvell).

?It: SI)(\C~ftC duties IS \vhpl"" !he~- !

\\·ns :!
\\·ns :!

eellts Iter I t~ '_itj;j itelll~ of tlut.iahh' goods have Ihad Itrt't.t)· tired, six o'cloek might no,,", be IYH nee.

h011.

gentleuulll sllggestioll, 80111e\yhnt (OaIled, nnd the hone gentleluan might ~nnle after recess.

h~~lthiel" a~d better ~rade o~1 ill yelT wide consumption which the manu hig!t.er and ~veI~.custom~-~ouse ?tticer, OIl fneturer plnces on the sbelf of the sl\lh~r for article.

tl}(~)· i 1::4. tOpnts Iter ll:u..·k:lge~ :luc.I it.
neyer realizt'~ c~urse, delights ~OlllPol~X:t and the 1I.nportprs of th.~; 1("88 thnn 5 cents per package.

Coal oil "'"~lS :11 t a not (~?untrJ· find It easr to n~n~e their c:llcula-: !

'oltl at Pet'.·olia.

for 9 cent:; }lela gallon, aDtI hons und~r theln.. ~he eh~~l ~I'g-nln(\ut to ht.'!

the cost of carr~·ing it to n. certHin to\vn u~ed ag:11118t \vn~ :~~.~ ~l)~l~ed tt?

:l "·Ille range of .useful :truelt's I sold iu that ~O'Yll at 25 ('t'uts .and 27 .cents.
Ilullunlerablp lll~tanee~ "au he fOlUltl of large "\ ..11 ~ In~ 111 puce.

I increase of ~~o~t on g0o?~ frolu the t~me the~ tJiP'· O'et 1(\:lye the faetor,· until Into thl."

:illti tl~lt has mili- tIl.. enilSUUlt\l".

tlunks that IS one article, ,ye "·111 sa.

}· woollen.

t:1 ted and ha:"O })(>(,Il t.o militate nn ¥?(.Jd~.

An~.

"'here the spec-Hie dutit·s act I jnstl)· ngninst the polic)" anti the factory it ~o :l:s _-\11 I ask is.

thnt in lookiu;.!
thnt in lookiu;.!

at the ulti •.hO~lgll thu~ tlisel'iulillating: ll!ate cost of the 'goods to the consuiner.

th..o :tg:llIlst a elns8 of e~H18lll11ers in t.1l.., (·oUlltr~·.llll(lIiUfH<:Ulrf.. ~hoult~ be looked at apa ri.

from In a ~ase of.

th:~t the argulucnt for ad i (he distributing: agene~- ; the t·.

)~t a t the t·atotor~· the arglunellt for I should be consideretl by itself and the cost of ,·aIO!·~lll du.tle~.

IS ~tl·nllg: ~JH,'cltie dU~H_'~ 18 PCll1:l.lIy ~tI'oug ill ot h('1" re:o;-!
distrihutiun should hp.

cOIl8i<ler~Il(.l a~ "-t-~ll.

for 11f~~.tSo ; Yel"'" often it has been found.

and it ,,,,ill be the i fCiUild in the COUI"8e of :111)· inYestig~tion, ,yill perluit me to lllal~e a Ithat although the factory lll..ade the goods is that as lIe appears to be!

ehl\:ll.l~· auci ~oltl t.hel~l n.t a. ver)· ~lnall ad \\·as large, the ultl1natc~ cost to the consumer was been \Y:1Y~ have the ("ost of Koods, to 'proceed.
as I \ ullt~ hy IO\\·....I·ill~ ra \\" luate d~sire to close a certnin part of IUy state-!

1"i:ll~ anel hy tr:lnsf,~rrill~ ra\'" lllateria-ls from Inent before six o'clock.

One main object ItlH~ dutiahle to the fret' It ha~ been ha~ bpl.

'u to SiUIJ)lify the t,u'iff an lu:tke it i found in the t~our=--e of ,,·nrk that "'e cle~, l".

tlh·i:o\ion of h(~(·ll.

as tJlt~ HOU~t~ ,,"ill see.

"el"J" (~ollsider-I the sulJjet:t already, nnt!


in this conn Thrt't~ ~(·Il(~dult·s ha,-e been I try :\lIn08t nIl the greclt staple~ for In:unrlac Hhl~· t·olldt\n~t~.l.

nl~lde ; one for dutiable goods, one for free II tut'iog ,vert' already on the 'fl'ee list, in goods and one for prohibited.

goods.
goods.

The)· to the schedule I Sltuth, "'here tbe.\· are to-d:1)· fightin~ over ha,·e been 'lrranged in the first th~ I thp vexed question as to "'lH~ther or not ""001, uu(ler and 1:1 grf\at staple for ~l large industry in that othpr .and an article of enorlllOUS COll the .Linl hilS beeIl to ha,·e them harmonize, anll ",,,,here there ~lllnption.

shall bear a tax.

of 11 or 12 cents ,vere grades of goods of different kinds, but ll)er pound or be placed on the free list.
In ~"et ,vhich blended with each other, so ns to Il~n3.

$121,000,000 ,,·orth of goods ll:erl' en Dluke it difficult for the appraisers and Cl1S- I tered for home consumption; of this amOlult tom-house officers to tell the differelh'e be-!

$52,OOO~(x)() represented free ~oods, the large tW'l,~n thelll~ to l)la("e them untler eqUivalent I prcportion being ra\y l11aterinls for manufac duties and thus avoid the inconvenience, the I tures.
The duties which have been placed vexation nnd the confusion that arose from f Oil different articles have been regulated ac the I cording to the vigour and the development conflicting claims as to the quality of article and the Item under which it came.
Iof the industl-y itself, according to the C011 As far as it could possibly be done, special iditiolls of conlpetition outside, acc~rd ng to the list, I the advantages that home production 113S exemptions lla\"t~ been stru('k fronl although as they have existed frOJll the first I for various reasons in our Olyn ularket, and and industries have grown upon them.
it I ~tcc()rdillg to Inethods uf busiuess III sOllle has been found impossible in all cases to c.ases as ,vt'~llo \Yhell H11)" person un<1er strike them out, and in some cases the ne- takes to look at the effect of the duty which ce~slties of the situation seem to deluand is placed in the revised tariff upon s. partieu their continuance.

The prime object in viE.
'W lIar nrtiele in which he is interested, he should has been to cheapen th~ cost of manUlac- not simply look upon the iJnpost placed upon that article, but he shonld look as well at turee in this COtmtry, to cheapen the cost at the list to which free goods have been trans which the goods issue from the factory it- selt; from the dutiable list.. and to the dll1i~tble list ,,~here articles which are raw people think too little and which Is not clearly trented even by those ,,"ho do know material have been reduced so far as import it, and that is, that the cost to the conswner duty was concerned.
'Whilst endeavouring the goods as the~" Issue to sacrifice no industry which· can reasonably and the cost of from the manufacturer are· two very di1rer- hope to maintain itself in this country, so I have in vie,," to·da}· nn article far as it can be done by the imposition of a ent things.

el:lsses in :ll!

)hubetiC:lll)·, schedule shlll)}~· alphabeti(..all~·.

,,·ht'l·e litems eOlltlicted,', C(..Ulltry , ther(~ is another fact of to our neighbl}un;; (lftutI':l-distillctioll ,,,hieh ferred.
,,·ell exploit('(l li~t.

th(' that tha t and for [CO)I}ION~J I its tbe future, namely: the foundation of its progress and the ho})~ of agricultural think classes.

With reference to those, I may say truthfull~· that thp, C..o,ernment in preptning its tariff has acted 8~·mpatheti­ This class of the people, distributed cally.
as tbey are over every part of the Dominion, ,vorl,ing their fields and farms, producing that which is the basis of all supplies, be coming ultimately the consumers of a large proportion of what is nlade in this countr~.., and ,vhat is imported into tids country, hav ing to sUouggle "Yith '\-arious ditficulties-ditti clllties often of low prices, dIfficulties of COlli petition in the great markets of the ,,"olold---I sa)' that this class demands at the hands of the GoYernn-lent, us I propose it shall receive.
a synlpathetic and fu¥our"able consideration.

That is not sa~·ing that, in my opinion, tbe agricultural interests of the country have not been the ohject of solicitude by the Govern I think th~" ha've been.

and I think luent.

the Liberal-Consel';'ati,e Government since 1878 has pursued a course of constant and un,"nr~·ing care for the interests of the far m~rs of this country.

Some hon.

)IE:lIBERS.

Henr, hear.
reasonable du~· which will give it sufticient yunmge grolwdto -1riaintain itself here~ em ploying labour and paying wage~ into the hands of labour, to be used again in b~"ing the products of the farmers, ,ye have en deavoured to take tbese matters into ac count, and b~Y a reasonable protection to re tnin all those industries ,,,,hich are in the count~.. which employ labour, and which work up the raw material of the cOWltry or use imported raw material and ,vhich in (lustries are consequently benefiting the COlm try.
But I wish to say this as well ; although we have been accused often of seeing none but the selfish interests, a~ they are ~'l11ed, of those who are engaged in these industries nnd who want protection, the Go,Yernment has had many opportunities of making tbem sel,es ,,·ell acquainted with the view~ nnd requirements of the consumers as ,veIl, and whilst trying to make e\·er~Y reasonable pro yision for industries thflt exist.
so far as I filll -concerned I bave felt it to be my dllt~.. to represent the interests of the consuolillg population of this country, as well as the ordf~r inh~rests not get that the benefit the industry ~han be kept as ,,'ell; fot- it "'ould be of little ayaU in this country that an oper ath"e should be able to buy his goods at ft cent a pound, or a cent a yard less thaD at present, if he did that under a condition of things -\\yhich ,vould keep him from earning the wage 'lith "'hich it was necessar~· to get the "pherewit;hal to pa)Y for that which It is very well to have in this he bought.
country consumers who can get what they wnnt 3S cheapl;y as possible, but it Is '",ell also to have cOlJSumers who, by nrtlle of iI1 vested ~'l.pital, and b~· industries in the coun try, haye a place where they can find their daily work, from which they C<lll draw their d8il~" ,vage and hale the money to pay for that which they consume.
Now, Mr. Speaker, I have travelled over the most of the ground that, intervened between the com mencement of my remarks, -to whieh the House has most kindly listened, and the ex planation of the ditIerent.

'tariff items.

industries, consumer ,,:hich accrues, but in shull that of only think, the its I ){1".

F"OSTER.

Our friends in Opposition have had much s~·mpath~r and many fair ,Yords for the farnlers.
Of courSet tuey have not for the last fourteen years ba.d a cbance to accomplish ,ery much so far as deeds are concerned.

But the record of the five years during which they occupied office, from 1873 to 1878, indicates no special considera.tiun I may sa~... and no special care for tbat class.
with reference to the agricultural classes of that the Government and the lib CaDnda, eral-Conservative party have shown their sympathy with the farmers in wbat the~r have done-first", in the protection that they have given to the products of the farmer, the protection whicb, as I said in a former part of my address, was not so much ,vith the the prices of steady them and prevent ing 1:he market ing sectional and periodical inroads upon them, with the result of lowering the fail market value of what they produce.
I wish to adduce some figures to show what has been done for the agricultural interests of this country.
the people of this cOUlltry consumed, of imported agricultural ,vhen the- Pfc'ducts, animals and their products: frOID House rose at sl'"(; o'elock I was saying tbat Great Britain, $00,588 -,worth; from the in the tariff revision it has been the aim' of Unit~l States, $16,066,963 worth ; from other the \rl)vernment, while seemg that industries coun1iles, $7,798 worth,' making a total of arE' reasonabl)p protected.

in this country, to $16,131,349.


for' n1so see that the rights of the consumers are hoine amounted "to $15, c.uretoIly look~ after, and that, all c1aBses 050,930, and in 1879 to $10,420,344.

The and all condltiolL'J of the people shall have National Policy did its work, and the result fair consideration in the arrangement of the was tbat the importation of these produ~ts If there has been any exception at fell to $4,240,8491n 1891, to $3,092,452 in 1892, tariff.
all with reference to any class,· -it has been and to $2,141,733 in 18930 In other words, in the view that has been taken with loefer~ in the three years, 1877, 1878 and 1879, there ence to tlie incidence of taxation upon that was aD) average amiual· import of these pro· large and worthy class of lJOOple in Canada, ducts for C-OD8umption of $13,867,541, wherea8 It being Six o·clock; the Speaker left the their products, for After Recess.

abnormall)· .as of 1\fr.

FOSTEI{.

lIr.


Speaker, consumption In 1877, In 1878 imports raising object Chair.

these of - _ )11".

FO!o;TER.

.

213 [)lARCH 2;, 18941 214- a t() produce in this country.

those products the products that in 1877, ° the linited States.

the ° result of which hn~ bet-'n :IS : farmer.

,,"Wch should be renson~lh1v ,yell Britain-until including pease, which come entirely 01 $46,145,5SIO.

in the last three years there was an average; 527,267 yearly.
Coming to 1892 and 1893~ tIle annual report of the same materials for home: exports to Great Blitain in 1892 reacbed the consumption of only $3,358,344.

it we tum i sum of $36,869,595 and the eXllort:; to tllt.. again to the imports of flour an(1 grain of all : United States the sum of $6\OU:I;;.o»H, a tot.-d III 1892-93 the)" "-ere to $-10.

kinds, from the United States, we find that the 1m- : 420,681 to Great Bri~~n aud ~G_020.Un:!

t c• tot..'11 of 84:!)

~3'j.l()().


ports tor home consumption were: $13,855,819 ; in 1878, $13,452,460 ; but in 1892 : Taking the ayerage of these tlVO Jenrs.

these importations had fallen to '1,315,294, : the average exports 01 these products to But, as an in- .

Great Britnin ,,-a.s $38,500,000; the average and in 1893 to $1,339,429.
to the United States amounted to stance of tbe special protection accorded to : export certain products of the furuler in 188n-00, I i $6.333.000; and the total averaged S-t7.,o;fM O t._ will read the results as I bu~e collectoo them.

; 000.

That shows that the farmer has bene time the hn- i fited in t,vo ways.
He has gnine<l the con It is ,yell known that at th:tt ,,,hich is properl~· his ports of bacon, hams, shoulders, beef, nnIt-: trol of the market, ton, pork and lard were ",cry large,\ ,Usplnc- I own, He hns displaced, ing by that much the salue prooucts of the; through the aid thnt proh~~tion hcl~ ~"h't:ll Canadian f:ll'mer, and affecting hhu in t'vo: him, fornl(~l'l.r c.arue In in the first plnce, (h~ltrivillg hhn of: frorD the United States.
and in conseqlH'llce ,yass: part of the market w'hicb legitimately be-; of the better position thus acquired, he bas longed to him; and in the next place, taking; gone into the cultivation of these products awa~" from him his desire and encourage-!

more largely and sent the surplus to Great for a; Britain and the United States-not:lbl~-Grp:lt ment last year the export reached market assured to him.

Well, Sir.

the protf~(~lj()llon : the ,"ery large sum of $49}235,OOO.
In this these products to the farmer \YUS Increas~d :respect the National Policy b:IS benefited the It has pro It bas done more.

in 1889-00, 10110,,"s :-In 1888-89 tbe ilnports or t]u..'SQ ° vided expenmenrol farms, at a ,·cr~- generou~ articles amounted.

to 31,131,746 pouncl~, and: cost, from the TreaStllj-.

Expt.

'rinH'llts have in 1889-90 to 33,112,701 pounds.

'1"1u.

'11 ea)ll;~ : been made, issued.

('olJlIH·ho'llt.

the legislation, and in the succe'~tlill~" yenr.


: teachers have gone throughout the countrs 1890-91, the imports fell to 17,400,504: pounds: giving the results of their oper:ltions and teaching the people the ele in 1891-92 to 13,486,880 pounds, and in 1S9~- !

experiments, is, in i.~-9t) j mentary principles and the latest results or 93 to 6,999,051 pounds.
this country afforded :l m~rket fell: tllese pro- ; science and the best business methods in the duts from the United States to t.he "V':tlue (if ~ ra.islng of their yarious products.

Further, $1,;34,225; but in 1892, under the incr~3St~cl i at a great cost, this policy has, for thp hlst protection, that had been reduced to a market ; fourteen years, provided transport for the 'fha.t sho,~s inr !
farmers' products going out and for the for disputably that the farmers have been given' articles they consumed coming in-n, tl-ans and port system which goes into every c.orller of' control of the country, and which, for excellence and that they have risen to the height of the de- is not surpassed by that of any mands for consumption in this COuntl·Y.

and: cheapness, have been able to avail Is not that a their legitimate market by means of the pre" !
great advantage to the agriculturists, scatter They hp,ye i ed throughout the country and depending on tect10n given to these products.

had just that much more market for th~m.

1 these means for the easy access of their But another consequence is to be noted : the Igoods to market, and benefiting by the better prodnctioD of those articles has been sdJuu- j result from the sale of their goods, through lated.
The fact that the farmer findg a horne Ithe cheapness of transport thus afforded: mark~t ready for what he produce~, ~:i,f~S IThese are two or three considerations which, him the basis.

of a stock-in-trade on which to II think, make my contention good, that the interests have not been neglected ~ work; and then he looks to the foreign market for by the Government beretofore, and support the disposal 0 h18 'surplus product.

the I'.!
the I'.!

187i the tarUr, his interests will again be found not has been the effect of that?

farmers of this country sent, ~f ;tgrtculttu-n.1!

to have been neglected.

Now, after· h:lyin~ products and animals and then· pl"otluet3, to made these observations generally and spool· Geat Britain $13,437,762 worth, antI to tbfl ally with reference to the tnritr, I corne to the items.

themselves.

° The first item in the United States $10,198,297 worth.
or a total of In 1878 that total wa~ in(,l·.~:lsed schedule of dutiable goods is that of liquors $25,123,396.

In tobaccos we have luade no to $27;644,636 worth, dlstribnied--$17.3tJ8.793 and tobacco.

to Great Britain and $8,984,025 to the ITnltt'd change whatever.

In spirltuous liquors we States; and in 1879 increased ~o $2fJ,81:-I,771, have made no change whatever.

With re- terence to malt liquors, we have made one dlstrlbuted $14;),8G9,275 to theUnlted Stat~~.. two 'rlle:1 ,.t?J"- change.

age.
age.

exports of those three years :unountt.~ to or three years ago, when I undertook, in the $16,145,520 to G~eat Britain and $10.017.1t~ face of a fairly buoyant re','eDue, to reduce to the United Stat~ a to~al cxpo:.

"t or $21,-1 that revenue by $3,500,000 or more, I had thelDselvcs (.f tbis ; other country in the world.

he works on that and enlarges it, Ifarmers' 17,690,006 to Great Britain :Intl It will be remembered that "'''hat my assertion that, the market of Cnnada, only $452.812 worth.
in the revlslon of bulletins 'l'llat 21;-) a • • • • __ • _ .

.. • __ ._ • .

.

• • _ • • •• •• [C():\I)1() X~] .

- '.

-- .. - , • ._-'.

_ -- ------ - - , ..__ .--~'.

- ._._--_._-_.. :?16 .

--_.~ .. 4- :1 ,:1:' ,\ t' Itt.-r for '~-ill ,,-it h In:Hl~.

IlOlllltI.

h:1Ye C·Pllt~.

)tounel.

salted.

eOlllp:lr(~1 It !gone.

:!

L"(-nt~ I..i'e 110gS, l~(" ""Ill. ;:et ,vhich ,yere fnrllH.."rl~· '\\"hieh ''':18 2 cent8 IIPr to that (·l:lSS.
bt"ell :\1... F(.-.S'l~ER--'Yhi("h l~OIUl(l. ~Ieats, n_e.s.. the lualt: due upon that item.

to be :1 Yer~· l:lrge increase.

I did so!

,,-hit·h "-Pl"(' forlnerlr-- :l('erptlon of Iupon thnt a dut~· of to some speedy method of recouping!

:ltljune.t )1.._ J.,AXDERI(IS.

Dead.

.

The re,cnue has since come ,,-bich \Y:lS :~ eents :lnd a half instead of one c.ent, ~ "'e had t\yo schedules_ })f."(-:lllSP.

Huder the prc}(lu("tioll deert\fisp.d to t lit.'


llIUlllA~I' of l'it..O(·("S t!ttl t shonhl he ill limitL"\t.l period at ihu~ ,\"()rk...~t ~u "-ell :lllt I h.·"'"11 ~o '-:llU:l hlp :111 ~UIlIC (:haJlg.\~~.

h~)"-­ .-\llllll:ll~ hYIng, to h:l Ve recourse, le:1St.

the great drelp in the rcyenue C:1Usec.l by the I t·,-.~r.

rt~nction of the sugar ~'lxation.


h~· l)utting a larger dut~·-althouhgh SIl1:l11 hin 1 degree-upon tobaccos; by heig tening t e: .,,·ere fO~·luerl~· ~::t to :~ snulll extent on sphituou~ liqn~rs~ I' (lut)· '''lth the exception uf hye hogs both excIse and cu~tonlS; by belghtt\nUlg per epnt.

:llSt) the excise on mults.


lU:lking the eXf'ise, i ba,e been reduced to 20 per cent, ,,~hich is ,,-hieh hud ahYuys been in this country, "'ith i the percentnge placed upon live animals in :lud th(~ lUll n~ t.."lllCluntillg tht~ exception of :l Yer.r short space of time, I tho "·Uson Bill That IfrOtH the Sell:ltt~ COJlunittee 80 far :18 it ha~ ] e,'nt a POHI141.

,,,us felt :!

oper:lted in this "·3~· : Tbe malt, and con- cents per pound, have been nlad~ 25 per fresh or Sl"C}tlt.

"lltly the beer dnt~·.


in this COlmtry hl."

cent.

When ,ve come to beef.

th:lt (",lint· Fresh mutton~ ("()llt~ in Gre:lt Britnin :lnd 3 8-10 cents in the rate has been retained.

rnited Stutes.

iI:l~ h,-.

'u pt.-'r 'up l:u·gel~· to the expectations formed.

The chnnged to 35 per cent.

in lhat ',":18 Illude has been filled, 3nd.

i eluding cnnned l11eats.


poultry and gn~e, ~;j ehnSlll the Goyenuuent Iper cent ad valorem_ under these circumst:1nces, One explanation 18 ha~ det(\rluined to take off frolll It is tllis: The HOUSl~ .luties one-half cent per pound, leaYing it at ~ ,,-ill retnember that~ with ref('rence to pork.

(tne eent Ooe ,yas intended \\-hkh hus Itt'PH the Ji;;"tUop =,illn.~ Couf"tlt-I':l- ito include what ,,·as CLilled the henvr or mes~ 'Yith t!le.· ('x'~'eptiou elf (tUe or t.\\"o :n':lr~_ !
pork, and upon that a dut~· of a cent and :t tie ..n. 'rile los~ "'hi("h ,,-ill a(·(~rne to [ht~ re'-t"une!

half p(\r pound was placed.

The other wns in the lleighhollrh?od of Iintended to include the lighter pork~ ~nd ~r(',nl .

that \\·:~8 pl;l.·('11.

~ltllle ~20u.uf)u. :lI11ount!

The only Wtly ,ye had of distingtllshlng be trolH the la..g(~r ltl·,.

]):lhl)- re,·t"nlh' the 2 cellt It.,,·een the henyY and the light pork was by InuIt of Illatl...,.

(lut)~ on Ill:llt.
(lut)~ on Ill:llt.

the :lIul sl1gclr cllltl other ~ub- I h:lrrel.

hnt a ,eery little (~XJleriellec ,\"as suf :L cert;lin 4"xtellt.

~tnnce8 ,,-pre u~'(l ,,-hic.·h.

,,-as elltirel~· to ~ho\v th:it.

"-:lS inlp()s~ibl.~ to nItt.

"ll nlld :lrtit~I('.

1 lea ,.... inferior ] t .fl'iend~ OI'I,o~itt'" ("-'~I·~· hurrel the UUOl her tn jUt l;.:p.

;o~Si- t~Hlt ,.

"'~~~e p~e(~es:.

~ :ln~ ,:'~-e~ It "ns IHnctIc,.~l)le fo) dt...llcr.

I hIe.
I hIe.

t·ut Iup the hog in such a way that there should requisite number of niet'es, e,·en Ithough it were a light pork, and then, after '''as introduced into t!Ie cOlmn:r, to re: p;u:k ~h(lJ pOI·k.

!hus 11.. '·lllg the ~ight pork conle In at 1th Instead of 3 cents.

That o\"'er- enough to acknowledge my moments of: come, and the simplest and easiest way has I have seen Ibeen found to put a uniform duty of 25 per ,,·eakness.

SODle bon.
SODle bon.

gentlemen get yery irritable when icent on both kinds~ This will have the th~e moments of weukness ,,",ere brought to i effect of raising the duty somewbat on the Iheary pork, and of reducing it a shade on their attention.

.Sir RICHARD CARTWRIGHT.

Will you the lig~t pork.

On the wh~le, it will make tell us ,,-hat the Prohibition Conuuissiolll1:1S an eqwtable arrangement, give an adeq~te protection.

and tnke away a ver)' to say about it ?


ser)(~us evil and vexation, not only In the carrymg I have not had the pleas- out of the tariff, but one of ,,·hich the tarrn w'e of meetin~ the prohibition delegation.

and ers themselves rightly complain, inasmuch 1 as ,vhere they supposed the.r were getting a the commission has not yet come next to the item of agricultural.

pro- protection of 3 cents per pound, the pork ,,·as the SChedule.

actually coming In at 1% cents per pound.


ducts, From .the remarks which I have made, It ~Ieats,~ fresh, n.e.s., which had been placed will be seen that it is not the polley of the at 3 cents per pound, are left as before.

Government to decrease in any.

IDaterial de- Poultry and gUIDe are kept at 20 per cent.

gree the protection at present afforded to the same as before.

Extracts of meat, fluid the agricultural interests of the country.
The beef, not medicated, and soups, 25 per cent, effect upon their Interests has been what 1 the same as before.

Lard and cottolene are bave pointed out, and with those effects changed from 3 cents per pound, and 20 per to an ad the Government did not feel fully in view, itself justified-as Indeed it did not feel dis· 'fallow, stearic ''''bleh forlnerl~" were 1 posed-in dinlinisbing the prnt<'Ction ,,·hich :lcid and steurin(\.

your o'\"n opinion?

.

nl~·self in that respect.


('ent ad' yatorem respectivel)· ,·aloreln du t).

of 25 per (,~nt.

I do, but am always frank IdifficulQ·, :\11'.

LA~DJ~nliI~.

'You take lUOluellts of II it it.

i~ ~lid.

Ilulke :Ill I Heit'nt tll:l t hOll.

I in~Hl("ln:l t(\~ IinSI){lf~t Sil' RICH.-\RD CAltT\\·RIGHT.

,,-eakness occasionally, though.

I am not a practical man I be the second class of Others are not.

~Ir.

FOSTER.

)Ir_ FOSTER.

)Ir.

FOSTER.

is Iof therefore, reported.


:uld 1ille.l to l!t.

'· \Yhut CPI.lt~ ll&~d that the tt..":-;t. be to if ::; h ~ 1\11'.

FOSTER.

217 [lI..-\RCH ~7~ 1894] ~18 • :It l~,f?

:lIul 'Yill :;i\~"\ 1)(~(~1l :-;ctIlH', take ()f Cl t111l1~r (~pilt~ Soap.

fonnerl)· I tllink it.

ne:1rl~· tlu: all~- eOtUlt.r~- :.

;1 1 (IitkH!S.

fl'UU} C:lll:lda.

th... uncle:IIl...l riee.

or Jln.lcly.

:!O ]tpr i fl.our.

h.':lr .lnt~- of :~ c('nts per i it h~il1g :Irrang-ed P:u·nffin('.

ltaicl IM'r1ililH~.
ltaicl IM'r1ililH~.

insh':ul l."he enUllllon oi- ptlo.. lfrce of duty fro III I:HllH.h·~· :1 1~/~ CCllt~ p.'l"; ripe applt'!'.

t"'u!

S:Hne clntH'~, or :1t 50 ~..nt_~.

pt;r h:lrl·~L ~ ~lr.

FOSTER.

if the duty "·ere reU10V4."1.

Sir lUClf.A.R.])

CAlfI'\VHIGlIT_ ,,·Wcb bore :1 ~pecitlc dutv : pcl the t~uh·al(~ut ad Y:l~nrenl dl1t~.. ?

~Ir.

~IILJ..S (BotlnYl""\llt What is tIle objt'(.t ('use-t.he 1l1ix(ocl: a~:lill hnek\,-Iu.

'at, buek,,·ht.

':lt 111'-':11. ry('.. rl"\luain~ :It ,,-al': hefortl-=!
t"..-uts per pnnn(i. l~)J·e 1(\(}uct.~1 i of le:lyinO' O:lts out?

nd Y.l]orcm of unt)· of!

it up.

B~,s\\"nx~.

lUI yiug been I~ity to any COllntr~· tlla t t~hoO$~ tc) :~.

(·..uts })l'r pound, cent to :til ]"t"duc..-d :.~ ~t~nt.

.a I ,,,Ilich "fl'-I" .

h~lS htaen dut) .

of _0 per C"llt, "·.IX and t~;111- I to 10 I)er cent.

TIle object of ll-'n,~ing oats ,,"hicIl dU~s.


:~ I I"P~)Jeeti\"el~· c~nts and 5 cents, hu,"e been reduced re-: nut of lhut lH·nJ..O~:ll 'YHS to retain ))roh..~~tiun spectiYely to 2 cents 3l1d 4 cents.

_-\11 candles; to that prouuct of t.he f:lrlner in C:lll:..1:1. a ,,·hich fonnerl~· bore v:nious (luti(loS hu'\"e be~n : '"(-\r,r ]:u'ge IHuc.lu~~t.

and one ,,'hidl.

in ~Ollll' reduced to u COlllmon ditty of 25 pl~r cent 3el Il.ortion~ of l':Hlntl:l. Illight be ach·er~L'])- :lff4.
'et t'ertaiu ·tilne~ and uuder eertain con ':lIOreul.

in two cases and a mix~l specific alu.l Theu Y:llnrPIlI duty in 3nuther r~-f' be:1l18~ pens.

h:l~"~ pot:lt()l"~..grt.....:n :1114.1 dnt)O heill~ 10 et:'llts p..~r pOluu.l untl cent and the ~l.

(\(..itit~ :Iud yt."'getables.

:ire lett ,,-nil the :lS tlu.')'

h:lye pOlmd.

~iwl}(:'(lul~s.

~(.:lp.

~ h:l41 uncl.lor the old t:n;ff,:ultl it i:, euaeh.
'ci thnt tlnt'" of 1: tloneh of t11l' above 1.roduct~ shall he :lcl1uittetl Dut ,,·hieh ~IU· t.~ent pound.

and those soaps ,,·hich bore a Juixed ; I.H~l'~ no (lnt~· OIl the like product ,,'ht'Jl lJU ,,"ill par a: !»..-rrecl 'fill' duty on uannen) sppcific and ad Y:tloreln flut.y, uniforUl r:\t.e of :~3 pl'l" ('("\ut_ C:l~tile soap.

: IS plaet....l I t·c)tne the dUll" :It: IHn,· to the qu~~tIon nf rlc(,.

,,,Inch ha~ heen fnottled or ,",·hite.


I cli~en~se.l on sever:tl o('e:lSiOll~ ill thp I-I0 U:-;P. ,,·hich it ; Forllh..·rl~· ,,"as 17~.

'~ p~r cent, :lud thc CleanE:"(1 enn YOU; (luti:lhle at.

!rice· :It.

1 7.1 ~enl:-; per .llouncl.

Two luetbolls !

uf (h':lhn~ "-Ith tllt.·~e ltl'ln~ ,vere ean,"n~$(ltl.

\yollld b.~ nbout lOne 'l"as to reduce the duty on thl"\ nlleh..':lll('(1 ~Ir, l~'OS'l'En.

~5 or 30 per cent.

t..-;h1(~ :Hltl luucilage-glue II n.·ce.


:Iud to c()rrl~I)OIHlingl~" reduce tl,lt~ cllll Y, ,,":\s fomqerl:r dutiable in t,,·o "".lys-liquid un the cle:lIu~1 rice; but.

on the otl}(~r hand.

is necc..'-~llT to look to the contingeneies :\t.

30 per cent.

and olller at pc.)und.

and muci1nge "·:18 ;~o p~r et."\nt.

These I of reY('U1H', Ric:-e is :1I1 art iele ,vhieh.

a] have been put into· one selw'clnle.

and reduced Ithough it is used largel)".

in ~ln:lll :lny one f:lluil~·.


:lIul the IH;Ct"\ to 25 per el~nt.

sizing (':re:llll.

&c., are :lll put 6\.

enn:~id('ra, ble clut)y <::111 :1nd chur~e<1 10 per cent ad \'":110- pasily be got froln it.

rhe t:1X heillg diffused schedule.

This!

o,·er the ,,-hole countr)y. and not being felt r~rn.

instenrl of 1 cent per pouncl.

is because these llluteri:lls are used in pro- l:l~ uny consid~rahle burden.

there to r:li~e SOlue S30.

()fJO cess~ of manuf:lctnre.

Fen then:.

,,·hicb ,vere I fore.


been decide..l in thr~:.e C:ltegOri~8.

ar~ no,,- pl:1Ce<1 in t,,"o. Ibnsing cnlcnlatioll UP011 tllt.\ ilnportation of \vhich ,vere foriuerly i I:L';t )"~ar-in addition to the reyenue :llr(.lndy Imdres.

'ied fe:tthers.

dutiable at 15 and 25 per cent.

being put I)-·iplc1ed frolu rice_ a~n20 p~r cent.

~nd others.

form~rlY 35 per Ct. lU:lIDS as llefore.

at 4 cents per pound, and cheese, as before.

nt 3 cents per pound.

Con- The total revenue, I think.


Thnt, ho,,- schedules.

one s\Y~ten~d, dutiable at 114 c,·er, is not at the expense of rtllC COIlS111Uer.

cents per pound and a5 per cent.

and the IThe dut)" upon cleaned rice :1 t present is :\5 per cent, hn¥e 11~4 cents per potmd.

1.

'he :lITnngemel 1t of other, uns\"eetened, at been joined in one c13ss cont:tining condens- duties that bas been made is this: to pI:lce ed milk.

condensed coffee.
condensed coffee.

condensed coffee i four-tenths of one dnt~" upon the with Inilk, milk f()()(ls, and nIl simiL~r pre- i ull(']eaned ar~ iu)on the potmd re pnrations.

including preserved ginger.

dutiable at 30 per cent ad v31orem.

When eoup of we come to the grai~ats have been kept!

about $30,000.

Rice flour apd sago flour, at 10 cents per bushel, and cornmeal at 40 ~ ,vbich bore ~l.

duty of 2 cents per pound.

two schedules have t have been placed at 25 per cent.

Wheat cents per barrel.


but been formed with other grains, and two and wheat :flour a're kept at the same rates Th~ fiS betore-15 cents per bushel on tbe formflr or first scbedule contains com and barley.

The and 75 cents per barrel on the latter, Bis duties on tbese are kept as they were .before.

cu~t~ formerly bore duties of 25 per cent for but there Is added.

this clause, "Provided that, unsweetened, and 35 per cent for sweetened.
barley and Indian corn shall be free of dUty A tmiform dUty of 25 per cent is no\f' place<i llacaroni and vermicelli.

for when imported ,Into Canada from the country l'pOll of prodnction, if such country, whence either merly 2 cents per pOlmd" are now placed at Starch, Including or both are Imported, admits both these pro- 25 per cent ad valorem.

ducts free· of duty, when imported tbence farina ~md com starch.
formerly bore a That is an offer of reclpro- duty of 4 cents per PolUld for sweetened, from Canada.

Butter re- be "our tot~ll re enue )n this itenl 'j , British ~unl.

pr dextrine.

I qU:lntitie~ h)' Sir IllCIIAIID C.\.R'l"YRIGHT_ 'Vhat 'Yill rice.

cleaned lice.

reyenne to three oth~r agricultural products.

.t.

helng no" 30 per cent, .)

)lr.

FOS'l'ER.

one II of it i~ not high.

per it will ext.ent 1 c(-\nt :In.l the is USt...l It has.

".
".

densed luilk, which "":18 divided into two I,,,ould be $55~O()() or $HO,000.

under them.

eent and the '"' " c. t 219 [C()}I~IONS] 220 i Is that 1amount to?

in the i 1 and 2 cents a pound for ullSweetened, no l categories under which these were found, change having been made since the reduction Isoma ad valorem and some specific, have The sweetened and I been grouped under an ad valorem duty or of the duty on sugar.

unsweetened have been united in one uni- I20 per cent.
form duty of llh cents 3 pound.

~[r. CASEY.

What change does that ,.er~· Sir RICHARD CART\Y·RIGHT.

expected~ to make any difference revenue .

~Ir.

FOSTE~.

~ ing of the duty.

I do not ~ because of lli.

FOSTER.

On some, that is a lower- It is most difficult to tell, little.

the difficulty of getting their think that there ,,-ill be- :tny great import- i ",aIuation.

their Take gooseberry bushes, ation into the country.

; ",aluation, even of the same class, may be Sir RICHARD CARTWRIGHT.
Perhaps I i'videly ~itfere~t in two or.. ~~ ..dn.~"rs and is ~?Oseber­ did not quite understand.

bon ,rentleman stated that one was four i rl(~s.

r3spb~n:les.

stra,,·bernes, cherrIes, and cents ~ pound and the other two cents, and: currants, which had a duty of three ~.ents ow proposed to make them one and!

a pound, and one cent a quart, respectively, that h ~ have been put into one schedule of t\VO cents h lfe n t all cen s i a pound a a ~Ir.

FOSTER.

Yes.

Sir RICH.UlD C.-\RT""RIGHT.


I Sir RICHARD CART'VRIGHT.

When 'Yell, it you say t,,"o cents per pound, what about the i l~ncertaln Black~lrles, tbousht al~ays.

und ro I .

and upon under duties from that there must; a of gallon.

111'.

FOSTER.

fractions the "idelv distended Sir RICIfA.RD CARTWRIGHT.

he reduces them to one and a half cents the packages ?

from m·o an~ four respectively, be more or less loss.

~Ir.

FOSTER.

The paclmge is included ; in the ,,·eight for duty.
Cranberries, plums I think" if m~· hOD.

friend and quinces, which were thirty cents a bushel, will look up the returns he 'Yill find that Dot have been put under an ad valorem duty cr much slveetened starch product came in at 25 per cent.. Apples, forty cents per barrel, four cents duU".

S,veet potatoes and :rams, as.

before.. Those I have spoken of: .


Apples, ten cents a bushel, ,vith a reduction in behalf dried, desIccated, or evaporated, raISInS, c~r­ of the consumer in part and a reduction rants, dates, figs, prunes, and other drIed also ,vith reference to the Island of Ber- or evaporated fruits, have been all made an muda, ,,·hich imposes a very slight duty upon even 25 per cent instead of an ad valorem Canadian products going in there, and wbich, duty of 10 per cent and one cent per pound.
by letter or other,,"ise, has brought to the How attention of the Go¥ernment the high duty about the French treaty in respect to those Island.

P~ckles dried fruits?

upon products dif- ,,~ere ferent categories :lS to duties; and there Mr. FOSTER.
The French treaty, ,,"hen gal- ,,,,ere it comes into operation, will affect these by Ion as ~ ,yell as upon The the ",ery fact of its coming into operation, to the extent of the proportionate reduction three schedules of pickles, Sauces and cat.. sups hale been tln·o,,,,n into one, and a which treaty.

uniform duty of 35 per cent instead of the Grapes, two cents per pound, as at present.
specific and specific and ad valorem duties Oranges, lemons, and limes have been kept the same duty, a reduction from combined, has been placed upon them.

Gar- at about den seeds remnin the same as before, ~O pel" $1.00 a thousand to $1.50 a thousand upon cent when in bulk, and 25 per cent when in the bulk.

Peaches, one cent per pound, 3S package.

Ground mustn.rd, 25 per cent, as before.

Fruits, in air tight cans ar~ reduced before.


Mustard cake reduced five per cent, and made fifteen instead of twenty.

Malt, fifteen cents per bushel as before.

Extract of mnlt, no change.

made in the duty on bops, six cents per eluded?

pound.

Compressed yeast, and yeast cakes Mr. FOSTER.

Packages are included have been reduced from four a~d eight where I do not mention otherwise.
Fruits cents to three and six cents per pound, and preserved in brandy are kept at the brandy the three schedules have been thrown into dUty, $1.90 per Imperial gallon; that Is for two.

Trees, such as apple, cherry, peacb, fear that more brandy will .be brought In pear, plum, quince, of all kinds, have been than fruits.

jams, and preserves, made a uniform duty of three cents each.

which are now five cents per pound, are re The specific duty has been retained, as It duced to three cents per pound.
Honey In the comb is kept at the old rate of duty.

Is almost impossible to follow these in point of valuation ; that is not much change from three cents.

Coffee, green, when not lm~ the present duty.

Grape vines, gooseberry ported direct, 10 per cent; when It Is roasted two bushes, and rose bushes, ,and all trolt p~ts not else.

cents a pound and 10 per cent.


Coffee where specl1led, shade, lawn, and ornamental roasted or ground, which was three cent~ the halt dozen ja pound In the old tarUr) becomes two cents trees, sbrubs, and plants, I take It No cbange has bep.D that in all these cases the packages are In· raspberry bushes, currant bushes, or ground, and not ImPQ~ direct, from three cents a pound to two cents.

Sir RICHARD CARTWRIGHT.

provided in the JeUles, for is Mr. FOSTER.

.


be the that nlight thought "~hen it togetber character, )fr.

FOSTER.

luore lightl~· put a more : ing current If I understand 1 cov:rs 01" : an ad vnlorem.

At first sight ftl·(~ [books by means ot agents Mr. FOSTER.

It must be imported direct is imported (would bear more heavily on .

: tlfic) phIlosophical, 3·nd educ.ational distribution of per pound.
Extract of coffee, or substitutes: subscription sale and the through the therefor, formerly five cents per pound, reduced to three.

Chicol1·, which was three: towns, villnges, and rur:l1 portions of the .

and four cents a pound, whether green or t country.

The book duty heretofore has been dry, becomes three cents per pound.

Tea, a!

an ad '·alorem duty, and that has been CQIU imported; plained of on the ground of principle.

.After duty of 10 per cent "'hen not direct.


Cocoa paste and chocolate, whicb ~ considering the matter carefully, tbe <t~ bore a duty of five cents per pound when!

cision has been arrived to change the duty, s,,·eetened, have been placed in.the same list, ~ and to make it a pound duty rather than th:lt might and made four cents per pound.

Sir RICHARD C..-\RT'VRIGHT.

Do I un-.

se-:m to deteat th~ object ?f those ,"no s~k derstand that there is llO\V a dutv on colfee i r~bet fo~ the r~adlng publIc '\"b?
take scIen- t all sorts ?

l\'orks, ~ because those books are not printed in this o .

There is a duty of ten!

country and ronnot be printed bere~ and system cents on coffee when it is green, when it is; it not imported direct.

that class direct, there is no dut~· upon it.

The saIne 1 and more lightly on the class of book.

;; ,,·ith reference to tea.

Cocoa nuts remain of ephemeral includ literature, put up in pap~r a t the same duty as before.

Mr. ~IILLS (Bothwell.)

tllun the hon.


gentleman~ coffee that will be Im-; books.

of the other class.

But the test ~ho.ws ported from Florida ,vill come in free if it: that.. )s not so.. ~~ you take a., S~bSC~P!10n "'as grown in FlorIda; but if the coffee was: b~k, bound.

"hlc.b ~ells at $3\ Its .

"eIght imported trom Cuba to the United States it : '~Ill probably be f~ur polmds.

Under fin ud ; valorelJl duty of la ~r cent, as .ut pr~nt, ,viU pay ten per cent?

,,,,ould be 4i) cents.


It 18 proposed I the duQ· to mako the duty a pound dllty, G cents per from growth and production.

Desic.cated pound.

The duty on such a book ~·ould l)e cocoa nut~ which.

"'hen s"'eetened, bore eight 24: cents, instead of 45 cents.

If you come cents per pound, has been redUced to four ido\\-n .

~o cUITent.

find light large cents per pound.

...-\ little chnnge has been quantItIes o!

WhICh are sent Into this conD try,.

and "'hleh b3ve not expensive bindings.


made in ginger and spices of all kinds form- erly they were 121;2 per cent, and no~ the)" and _,,·hos.e price is abnost !lODlinnl, such a have been made fifteen per cent; but when: book commg here would ~velgh half a pound ground, the same duty of 25 per cent has lor.

three:-quarters of a pound.

and t]H' iu been retained.

Nutmegs and mace remain; VOIce pnce would be but 3. fe\¥ cents per at the same duty.

That disposes of the; pou~d.


The ad valorem dut)T is almost the p0u.nd d~ty will be considel' agricultural class of products, treated under nothing; I now come to the third class able.

.A.Dother pOInt arises, and that is this the taritr.

in th~ whicb consists of books and papers.

On thi~ that leaving aside for a m~; country the .post office.
is largely availed 01, question ot books, ment that ot papers, there has been a gO()(l 1an~ gr~t ddficulty anses from .ad valorem deal of writing, a good deal of speaking, and iduties In the post offi~e c.ustoms distribution.

a great many demands haT"e been formulated i It involves the apPl"3.lSement of each book at from different from the readin o ; the place where it is delivered.
The pOUll(l the reading' duty is much e~ier; the officer has simp1r public, public which may be called the studying to put the book In the scale and ,,"eigh it.

public,.

who w~t scie.ntific, philosophic ~d Sir RICHARD CARTWRIGHT.

Will educational works which are not prlnt~ ID be made tractionnl-3 cents for this country, and which, for evident rea/)ons, pound?

cannot at the present time be economically .

produced in the country.


Colleges and libraries have also made a strong plea dur ing several years for the admission of books their libraries free of duty, and also for courses the admission ot books for ot classes.

study the Then, again, printers of the country towards the book pUblishing interest to be considered.

The book pUblishing interest in Canada does not occupy the position that it did many real'S ago.
The large book bouses which were then scattered In almost every considerable city, doing business In their special way, bave largely gone out of 1he b118lD.ess, and it bas taken other· channels of distribution, most widely among which is that of the ~Ir.

FOSTER.

Yes.

Broadly stated, tbe question of principle I think is this, that the the pound duty does not spirit, taXes the paper, binding, and the articles enter ing into its production.
It is a better pro tective duty to those articles and to the printer as regards tbat class of book which is possible to produce here.

The duty· it Will be 6 cents per pound tor books, !Dstead of an ad' valorem duty of 15 per cent.

Brit ish copyright, reprints ot, will bave In ad dition to 6 cents per pound, a dUty or 12% per cent, which is the amount we collect in payment of the copyright and transmit in there is the aspect of interests from that portion of in the distribution of books Is this ad valorem?
tax the genius, It the balf in tbe book; Mr. EDGAR.

the thoUeoilt li.tcl'ature, different the for it 224 llre 2~3 [CO:lI)IOXS] ----,._- --- .--- -_.._---------- - ..--.- ----~._----- _... _--._-_ .. _-_.

.... _0, _ _ _ 0-.

'-, __ .

_ _ ._ • .

)Ir.

l-"(-STElt.

Yt·~.

But thf're i~ :l (·lau8'~.

)Ir.

};'()STER.

·.fh('y :uop kt.·pt ;l~ at .

a...; .. ,.

i~ It to ~.

tlOll.

:uul ('(.llect UIlt.·ll:ln~t1(l.

tht.'

ret"(oipt50 .

!

laas ht~'n l,:"'ft ~.lr.

FOSTER.

:lntl I SllOuld sa)".


:lI· FO~l"ER B k :lOtl h:lYe the luattt"'r' :!7th March, 1895, nnd; the saIne rute; )linistr~· b)· the Opposition.

IHints, aDd engravings I ~.

Sir RICl1.Al1D C.-\RT\VRIGHT.

Does the: :llltl p:lilltS, 1~ )·ou take the rl'nlrnS O~l :In 3d i l~xcise dnt~· !tu·ger :U14.l tbt."

hke hn"e b\.~n kept dutl:lhle nt: htOen soh·eil bS k~l)iug tlu\ Yint.~g;lr :It )[r. FOSTEIL lt i~ Yl"r)" tliffieult to calen- !l:("Yelln~, ;lIul it being tJu~ intt.
'lltion of to continue to tTl" ~)() -s for rill' dt"~~f.

\lnnlb~ cents tbe GOY-: ~n~l s;hl,u.ld :lr~ :~l~lutted fr~.

.A.

frlf\ntl ~u~­ this;' ~.esu; tn.lt thIs IS .

:1 COUct.

'SSlon to the C-llIK)Sl- a unch('(t "'hieh is ;IS t"olh),,·s: Tills dut~" : st.\nt.

shnll continue until ther~nfh'r the r:tte $b:lll be t; p~r:.

- I.

}lOunt.1.

\.rnUlt.Ut n\)t :llUount.

but 3tljU$tl'll b:," d1nt tiine in a better and lllore ~ Sir RICII.ARD C_\.Rrr'YRlt;Hrr.

~:ltisf:letnr.y ',":1:'".


:lUtl all th:lt clns~ of Illnth"}".

ntI yalort.·nl dut~- ,.f 20 pe-r (.·~nt nUt} G C~llts : tlen13.n.

]"or P''''lIUI.

are rf~t:linetl :It of duty.

This it(\lll i~ :l l;lr~e reYenu~ pru- ; : thJ(0er.

i u~£d them.

Conling next :1 _-\d,"erti~ing.

p:unphlets .

c?n~ssion.

Mr. Sptl':lker, got by the Opposi ,,"hlt.oll bad :In .

tion frol11 the prroeces.~r of the bon.

g~n­ 'Yl'IUg out of the ('h:lnge f,-olu ad l":llorem to specific make 3ny : tile ~anle :lS before.
,liffl~"l'lh.

(' ill I hope the Opposition lt~lYe to ebcluicnl~.

oils ·.fhc Tineg:lr dut~" ha~ bL'(~n kept r.rh~r," i~ :tn ("x(:"ise upon ~ tb.'

Inauuf:lcture of ,inee,-rar in tilt.. Coulltr,·.

1nIl of ,,-hich is c:u·liro on und..r tl1\..' Inland is proposed to Inakp the it to get nn :HI,lit ionnl 1:1 te lh:lt. yalttrcolu hnsl~ yon ll:ll"e not tbe ,yelght but ; J'e\~\~nue of SOUle thouS;Ul(Is of dollurs there ~itnpJy the ynll1~ : but testiu¥ .lifIerent pr!ces 1f"OIH.
The protection upon Yineg:uo is a of books as ""e h:lye .doue~ It Dl:lY be .fall·I.~" ~ l:u·g(\ protection.

but it is ahn\t~t ilupos:-oible ~ls~\une(l rll:lt "'hat IS lost on one SIde.

IS ; ~o Illak~ it otll(~r than it is nn<1 kelo}, T'inegar g.llnro on the other.

anti th:lt the reductIon t frnlll helll;!

Ill:Hl(~ ,,-holesa}u frOIH tlt'l"ti(~ :lcit.l on the ',,!l()le "'ill not :Ullount to a Yer~· large 1:lut.l otJler ill~'T("(1ients of :l d("}l-t("t'intl$ antI ~lnn" Bnn~ not('~.

bonds.
bonds.

hills of ....~("hnllge.

; 'U)lll~:l1thy kind.

So that that probleu1 bas ;Hul the :t.-; Iter el"nt: la h,-~l~ 1::.

c.(\nts per pound ,uul 1C'1<i duty.

~u1d by raising an ,lddition:ll 3.IHount llcr C(ollt.

thi~ itelll b~illg also a lnrge i of re,·enue frotH the Dlanuf':letnre of it in the 2:; reyelllU.'

}lrodn(',~r.

)[aps nntl ~harts are ~) ~ s}ulpe of excise.

per c~nt.

P:unting, l"eluain :lS before.

~o per (Oellt.

'Yill h ... t. (~~lltS per l'aek; printed lun8it~ ]0 i flo\\' "-:111 I )Ir.
Fl)STER.

The additionnl incolut.° \,"111 t:'eut50 per POlUl(l. paper hns he\~n 'H.oetie alltl specific dl~ties nud imposing an ad T4110rem i p~roligIll'OUS of ,w~· 8!rength for the PtU-l.o~e duty of ~.. per C"t'ot all tluty of 25 nnd ha~.

\\"hieh ,,"("'re :~:i lll~r (·("nt.

h:tvt.· belOU 1\?t'nts per g:lllon and 20 p~r eenL &"l..~ been )[ill-hoard relu:lins th~ I rf·'t1nceil to 25 per cent.

nlnd~ 2~.

pf'r (~nt.

_-\cic.1.


luurintic antI ~r:lr red pH"""r I nitric has been reduce\l from 25 per Ct"nt sanlt" :18 heftlre.

10 l*~r e(~nt.

"-ill h\~ 20 pt'-r ("~'nt.

i to 20 per cent.

Sulphuric nci<l ,\"hich bore a. ,,'ill he the dnty un!

tlut~- of til"t"-tenths of tl cent l)er pOl~nd has I ~leen retluero to four:tent.

!ls ; sulphurIC ether !

IS the &lme dnt)·, T'IZ.. il e.ent", pt..-'r pound.

the 8:11ne ~ ...-\.citl phogphnte has bet~n reduced front 3 ~h.. FOSTEU.
It I cents .to 2 5~nt8 per pO~Ind.

Liquorice pH8te duty as at preSt"'nt.

i~ desirable I tllink to statl" in.

this comlec- ,I.and }tqUorlCe root.. ""Well h,lS n. duty of 2 ~Uld 't.l cents :1 poun<L baxe been nUlul' ad tion ,,"ith respect to books on the free list- and I ~un stating it brietl~" anti from memory I '''.3Iorem .20 p~r.

cent,.

a eon~iderable rt"tlllc -that instead of mediCInes haye been kept at the snDle rnte : prayer-books.
be-big chargetl 5 pel: cent: books tor uni- 150 per cent f~)r liql~ds an~ 25 pe!

cent for ,('rsity~ college, nnd librnries of that kind.

otbers.

Cod liyer 011. medicated, IS kept at books for public and incorporated luecbnuies' I the old rate, 20 per cent.

Essential oilsl' libraries nre :11so Illade free to the extent of Ila.rgell" ~sed .in manufacturing soaps of the t,,"O copies to each institution.

Books found I' better kInd, ill fact all perfumed soaps!'

re in the regular curricuhllu of colleges!'


11Ul.

duced froDl 20 per cent to 10 ppr cent.

Pel Yersities, aud 3c.&ldemies!'

being 01 a kind I ~ades.

nre ~ept at tIle &~e r:lte.

Perfumel-Y.. replinted in Cnn~lda.. are Including tOIlet preparations, hu '·e been kept not printed or Books a!

the same rate, namely, 30 per cent.

V:l allo,yed free for printed in an~r r!ous representations have ~n made in Par country, looking to French and English, are admitted free.
and the reduc~lon of duty upon illuminating oil.

some other concessions are luade, which, ~fter !18Ylng.carefully thought o,er tbe sub Je(ot ",th a Yle,," to do what~~el· ,vas reaSOD- though important, ha.,e escaped nlY ID81nory.

:tble tOle the general consuming IlubUc.

and :Mr.•SOM~R'·ILLE.

How about nlontbl~' ,,"inl a ,er~· 8troll~ unwilliugness to destt·oy ,,·hieh hus existed from Con- psalm-books.

Itlon.

;.all medicInal preparations and patent rhl~·in~-(·;lrds!
Jr ~I: 6) tI JH_-\.RD C...illT"·I:IG111.

I ~ is in nny lnnguage e~eept hament a~d out of Parliament, ~lr.

:ED~}AR.

ordinar,- pUller'!

.. dro})piIi~ the I ht' prnb:thl)' 4lhout $:~O.tll'4)' Inanufnctures ,,"llJ(·h hore :1 rOluul.

Paper 8;\(·ks : of these include Bibles.

foreign to this The question of tlntl bYlun-books.

those plU·poseS.

:In In(lustr~.. 2;:) per cent.

magaztnes • relll,lillS nt settlet.l by langunge llunl€'l)".

"·hnt ,t cb .

.Aeil1.

that 1t ... .

1 • :Mr. FOSTER.


225 .. - .. - # .

.

- • ~ a :\ it is largo Illoney.

is ,yorke(}.

nmouut of Yl~r)· con~hh_~r:lble is ~in:: distributed no,,,, lisve tluoted~!

oil in bulk for manufacturing pnrpos€'s fE-deration up.. antl existed :1l"-:l~·8 lUlder th~ 1h:.~ bt.~n redUl.--ed hl ~ eents.
gl'\"'ln~ in that protection of t11(~ Goyerwnent: :In industl~· 1n1etlu:)(1 of bringing in the oil by h;\lTt-h< a. ,,-hich is locfll I n.hnit.. but \\"hich is peculinr I redu{·tion of ~ cents on eaeh b:lrrel.

lu ill its nnture in th:lt. in the loc:l1ity ill wbi~h !

enl,le oils and gus oil :uul fuel Qil.. for fn.

'l is ,,-idel,r distributed an:) he- j :1Ilt1 m:111uf:lcturing purpnses.

U rt~tlu(·t hlll it exists .·(rilles :l living, ench ""ell.. to the fnmi1~-.
the i h:lS been IDude of on~h:\I1' of tlH..l. prest-I'1lt SlUall holder that o"·ns the l:l.llll upon ,,-Well Iduty, nnd in lubricatin~ oil tbe limit Ulton ..:\.

~-{\ar or nlOrl.~ :lgo, \ ,,·ltit~h that duty is pl~l("etl h:l~ been reJncl-d the ""ell very Luge priees ,,-ere paid for oil, \vhether f trOll} 30 t~-ll.nt~ pl·r gnllon h) 25 cent~ per they were Canadian oils C.\1" American oils.l g:lllon : :lll~l :111 aboye ~ .....(~nts p~r ~llh'H ill That was not the fault of the produet.

"'r at!
"'r at!

'-:tlue g~s into the cla~ for luhri('atin~ nil:-:.

the Y~ry titue the Canadinu i ,,-hich bears :1 eOUUllon duty of 25 llt~r \-~nt.

Petrolia.

At oils ""ere selling frOtH ~5 cents to 45 cents i Lin~l oil or finxset.

'<1 oil.. ,,·hich h{\:lr~ :l chny per gallon in Can:l<1n.

the~" ,,"ere being sold I of l~/.l eents p(lr pound and W11i4.."h is tlH~ rft ,,' in bulk at Petrolia for 9 3ud 11 ...~ents per: materinl for a great T:lri~t~- of illdustrip~.
It "·as pointed out to the vrodu(.~rs i b:1S been lowel"~l.. and inst~~ltl of that duty gallon.

last ~·e:l.r that it ,,"as nect·s....~:lry for them to!

,,·bieb I haye luentione..l.. an ntl yalOreUl duty tnke nlensures b~· whiell oil should be re-: of ::'0 PPl" \"(·nt h:18 bl"'ell placed upon !t.

dUl.~~l in pricQ to the con~unling pUblic..

I ,,-hie}.- r~ductiHU.

and \yith an expenditure of eOlumend:lble!

Lard oil.

ll(~:lt"s-foot oils.. and s€-s:une S(~l ener~·~ and an exp\~nditure, I am sure..
I oils remain at the same r:lte of 20 l)e~" Cl~nt.

they b:l\-l~!

Oli,e oil preparl~ for salad pUrp08l.~~.

h:l~ of 'Ybieh to-dn~-, I ht'en incrensro fl'ODl 20 to 00 per cent.

Oliy(' perfected arrnngemt·nts b:r instt~ad of tho price~ '''hich I llas from Cnl· i been placed on the free list.

used~ as it is oil gar~· to C:llle Breton, nnd sold at no plnce I COOling' to be no,,-, ¥e~" Inrgel.~ in the lllanu at a {Oust gn.~lter t.han ~5 cents per g:l1lon.. !
facture of the bett(\r kintl~ of SO:lP :lutl in an.1 ("Olning do"wn t9 :1 cost of 10 and 1~~ I '·:lrit~us other article~.. nntI in tht"\ prepnra cl·nts I\\~r g:l1lon.

The ,lut~· of 7' 1-5 cents p~r 1tion of snrtliues anti the putting up c)f ft~­ ~:ll]Qn is n lnrge duty,.

but it is :1 dut~· \yhich !

V:t~e1ine i~ to lln,e a dut~.. elf 3;1 per cent St~l·l inst~ntl of the old (lut~· of 6 c...~nt~ :1~d 4 i~ not aY:liled of by the producers antI from ~ cents per IlOUn(}.
Bl:lcking.. shoe :\nd 8ho~'­ lers of the, oil.

On the other hnDf.l.. those ,,-ho use Aluericnn oil tea r~~enue, sOlue $400,OOO~ is receil"'etl ,,·bich it ~ 25 per cent.

Ink for writing hu~ be~n re to sncritice I <1Ut~~d fron1 ~5 to 2\.}

~r ~nt.

Blueln~ h:l~ is difficult for the Go,ernment r)r~­ 'Yithout replacing it The alnoullt of oil aU41 fumlly is not surprisingl~- lar;:l~ in qU:llltity, 1zinc ,,-llit(lo.
5 per cent : ochres~ raw Si(\Jlna~ 1:lnd the Y:lrious fOlUldations tor paintS oo,·e and is not SUrpriSillgl.., gl·t"'nt l been roouC€'(l to 2U.

!ler Slr RICIL-\RD CARTWRIGH~.

""11.lt do: cent.

Oxides, ochres and oC\brey earth, rd ".

you compute the tot;U eonstuuptlon :l t both i siennas antI colours, haye b~n rednce~l frODl home and imported.

Paints an.l Mr. FOS"fER..

The tlh·ision is about t,,-o-!


colours which bore :l 30 per eent dnt)-.. and thinls to one-third; one-thirtl of the IllHrket ~ in another C}:lRlO;.. 5 cents a. pound nnd 25 per is supplletl by the' United States il~Ull1inat~ngIcent duty: _hflTe been redl~ced aU rounJ to oil and hYo-thirds of the lllurket IS Stlilphed !

au eyen 2'.)

per cent.

P:unt~ and colours..

I will ~ive yon the!

Jrro~d.in ~pirit~,.. are kept at the s:une duty by' the hOlne product.

figures later OD.
figures later OD.

TInder thest~ circulllst:lllCt"'~,I \,"Inch IS the splnt duty of $1 n gallon.. but the Govern..."nput llns C(tlue to.

the conclusiun!

seal"cely anything is done in thnt line.. no not to lower the dut'- upon illuluinatill;: oils!

iClportntion now takiUf: plnc~- Turp~lltine Some cball~e~·hn'-(10 bt~n lll.\tt~,!

which is n basis tor different mannfncturing this yen\".
however with reference ttl the distribution, i processes has been reduced from ]0 p~r cent antI ar~ngements ,,'"ill 'l'arnisbes.. laequt~r~.. j,lpnn~ land Rcyenue b~" ,,"hich this oil eRn hp de-I and th!

like which bore a duty of 20 cents livered and stored in tanks in :1n~" cit~· or in and 2a pe.l' cent, have been roouce:1 to 20 nn~" ,-illn~e, and b~· which it enn ?e rli~t..i- 'I (~.n!s a ~llon and 2(l p~.. cent.

Pari~ ~re-en i~ ke-pt at the same dUty, nnrnel.

''', 10 per cent.
''', 10 per cent.

buted without many of the yexCltions antI addition!

; to the expenses ".hicb e-xi~t.

Putt)· has been reduced frOIU 25 to 15 per Mr. MILLS (~thwel1).

.Are ~e llle.1DS of I"·:ll"e.. !

{~llt.

Coming to the <.-lass of earths, earthen- :,:lasswRTe and stoneware: brick fOt building remains at 20 per cent.

There were two ~cbedules, one of Chintl and porce"aJn Mr. FOSTER.

Do ~"O\l mean in trnusport warp, and one of eartbeln,"are.
The Iluty on china and poreel:lin was less than the dutJ.. 011 ealrth~nware.

and there ;\·el'~ Ot"C.ftsions for The In"" in t)lat r(.\spect disputes arising at custom·houses.

The two .1 nty ]~nrrll{!1­ jugs, wlll remain the same as it is to-da).... How- are thrown into one~ and ·i:.he (~tlnl1DOfl ever, browtht ~u Is at present 44) cent~.

ftDd th:lt Mr. IDLLS (Bothwell).

Or by w& ter.

Yr. FOSTER.

is of 00 per cent Is put upon th..~nl.

and stoneware, in SOUle other wny.!


been redu\-'t'(l from 30 tC) ink is reducea frolU ao per cent ht.~ nl:lde b~· the In- f to ;) per ('('nt.

,,-hi..."b is uS(·cl hy flo:lch: ,vllite :111,1 the duty .\:..n barrels in which oil carriage to be Interfered with .

:!5 p.~·r cent.

luiluaral :l ,e~- large [nulk(l.l-S' irolll 30 per cent _ .

to 20 per cent.

100 per cent lood.. ornng~.

(lemijt)hus "I" in its Y:l1np.

by mil?

,,"are retl ,~ a .. .

8 REVISED EDITION.


228 · ("'l1"(\fully gonl~ o\-~.. :HI ,ttl )Ir.

:lOtI ,Hul t.o :..~ eO,"·_·l~ ll"\.ltht'r~)itl \":1I.or\"lolu..

It"1" (Ol~Ut.

c:llf.. bear ~killS not ~ t}ut~- of :!".

!~~ :llltl S-:llue ft'''' F()S1.'El~.

That ~) }ll"1" othl'r\\-i~' ('('ut.

IH·,-)Yitlt~l clol"los tll:1t eO\'l~r ?

l}t"r C(qlt_ Skins f,ar is rl"(hl('t~l fron1 :!r~ ~.:-.

}l\\l' tht' ennnUt)1l ('h,ss bt~:lrin~ ~~) })l'r; ,lntl fr"'I11 6 to -l cen.s Ilet· ~qual"~ font.

the ,lnty hdu~ .
the ,lnty hdu~ .

()~nl.

; et~nt.

fl'OIH ;~ cents; gl~ntlt.

'nll"loll ,,'ben th\~~' eOllle h' lll~u.lntors, of ,lll kintl~ ~ WIU.

'D t~\nned.

belting lent11l)or.

the onl)· eb~ul~e in th," f.;t:-nf'rnl ; 1))acet.1.

at 30 Ilt~r eent.

:1 redUt-'uon nn the "'htlh', Sir RICIL-\UD CAUrr,VH H.~ liT_ ..',lout.

h,l\-t"; the ~llne as heft)rt.\ 10 Ill\l" ,-','ut.

tluty t.\f "'h:lt 1 Il\ather.

_t~lnlh."lo(l.

but n,)t ,tured.

1..) }l~r '--"'eDt.

: before,.

at 10 l~r C'-~llt.

tIle Ill~Xl l-')as,s.


tlutl~"lo~ h~lye not b(~n lutt'''rh'r\~tl ~ l~q}t~ .

:lS ,It prl'sent.

ll)o:lther, lUC,UUlt'St\t-"ut : riJlllt"'r sheep l~lub.

tlut;r of 1:.

pl1ol"' (....\ut.. ~)le Ientilet'.. (-'hurll~ or erut-.ks ur~ rt.~hlCt.l(} to ~ Ct'uts no ~nllt\ll of holtling e:lllucit.y.

l)r~lin: tariff.

pipes :uHl tilt~s .

:u·p k\~pt at the oltl .rntl1o_.

on: forul ~l:\~.

tht.~ "-lth 111 the nl,un.

("loX~'t.

'I)t th:\t.

~IHnll \"urt'S of ; nlld tile like.. 25 p~r t't~llt.
;!lass.

SIlH,n hot tIt.

's :Hld the likl'.

,,-hil~h horl~; I.

(":ltht)or-bo:lrtl :) el'nt~ :1 tlOZ('U antI :,n l)~r lOl'nt.

hayt.'

,,11 bl'l"ll ~ ,m<1 Sh(~'-l""')Unters.

1)1:1....l....1 in tht"\ ~t:'n('r:'l (.

't'ut :llul )a nlp~.

lllt-hulnl~ artO l:Ull"~, hUll}) ('hilnIH'~-$.

shl('-li~hts ,H1t} Ih':ul- th:lt kilUl of li~bt~.

~h:ult.

's_ ~lobt·~.

:U1'.1 all :lrtj(·l\'s.. "-hit\h hort" :.

L~"lltS a .1nzt\u :lIltl ;;U ; tiOll.

I)t.~r (·pnt.

lk~'ll }l1'H.

"l~1 undl"': l~"r ('t"nt.


fr~llu,", tlu.

'ir l.t.

"ather, IllallUfntotnres ot\ nlltl l"llbb~r ()I\ fnr ~liin$.

15 Ju'r On fur Cnl)~ h,\t~ :lS nt pre:,ent.

hoot ,lUti l.t)o:lth:·r for.

s,)h~ h.\:lther, inclu..lin~ dong,)}", C'o:·<1t)~:l!l.

unifornl nnd a ~l'his is a "li~ilt r.~'duc­ rough nr un,il·c~",~~al.

is ')n j:ll):lU :;0 ,lU\().

pntent or {'n:unelll~ h."ttht.\r.

a unifornl lU01"'\~·\·t.'


fnrtht'l' manufac- GIt)¥e Ientlh.\I"S :,r~, a~ .-\.11 lU~Ulu":lctllr~"los of :lll kintl~ of ~ l(\:lther, not ~lse,,-ht-'re ~I'l~itil'd.

~ll"e h\ft nt ,~lt'Ctric tixture,,; :1ud :111 kinds of bUll})S. ~itll'- ; ~5 per ('ent.

Bt"lting of It\ather .

)1' otlH.~r l ter ct.'nt.

light~, sbnd('s and glnbl~s.

\\"h~~t)~t.

't for oil.

; lll:lterinl.

,'ll"Ctric light or ga8.


Ontside far whn~ I l)a~e : lI:lrnes.~ :lilltl S:H.ldll~r~- of t.'\"t"~· deserii\tiuu i~ "whi}\5', "'hicb '"el'(~ IUtloution(\(1.. ~i,\ss lInt)- has heen to !

"'~dn~_'e th._~ dut~- ~Olnt" : r.o C(\uts ller dt)zen :1n(l 30 per t~(\llt :u1 "":11 \"h:lt on plate glns.,;;;.

\yhieh comes iu panes of ; orcIn.

ha\"c l~t'n put at 3.-.

\"~ll- Roots :nul shoes nrt~ kt"'l't nt ~:a 1)"'1' Jhlt le~ th,Ul 1~ ft"t.'t squa :e!'
,,'ith Illdhl-rubht)ol" boots :lud shOt\s.. l"\'(luC't~1 "rhe du~- on the other glns~es rp!naill~ ut the: tops or 1lll}ll"loIOS '-If cloth 01' uf lllatel"ial othL~r S:lllle figurtl>.. thnt ~('h('(\ule ha'-ing lh"~u \-..-lY : th:ln rUbber, ,,-hieh bO"t~ ::'-.

per ("f'Ut.

,trp IHlt Indin-rubb~l" boots nnd ~ho~~s t,,'o 0)1" tnl-t~ )·~~n"S a~o : :1.t 30 per (X\ut.

~er~- sntisf:\~t.)rtly.


; think,; :lDt} Inanltf:lct11rl~s of Illdin-nlbber keep the nlld arrangf'tl both 10 tlle il11I)Orh1or nnd to tlh~ r.~\·t\un~.~.

Int.li:l-ruhht\r ~1)t"'<.

't:H'l~s anti ~~-t"\-gbls8es t}u"lo ,in~y is.

:~,) pt"lor .

l'l>lothing.

~urf:U:~t"\(l nlltl other\Yise.

,,-hich t411A'e ('ent.

as before.. nnd ullon the fr:l1l1e8 ot' parts :1 eon1poluul (lllt~·.

is put :It 35 l)er cent.

Hub tln~r~~)f. ~) per cent.

,,"hh.-'ll ,1 tnixl'(l dnt)· of $2 ,-"a<,11 :111\1 3:) Th'r (·,'ut.
bore n eOlupountl thlt~- of 5 ('eat~ ])t"\r I)Ound :-ta l'~~r )h~gic : :uul 1:l laer cput, is put :It 3~~ p~r t~ent nd h~l\e lx'eu l\}n.eed ,It l~lDter1l8 nnd ~Ude8 tlH.

'refor~ l)hil')~')l)hi(~ll.

~ ,,~lloreill.

I no,,- COlne tH the ("las~ of nl~l:\ls l)hot~phic.

luathelu:ltiC':ll and uutie:li il1-; :uu1 m:lllufactures of, including.. as tbe article \yhich nUl' of prhue importance.

iron.

UllOll this n gr(,~lt ~tnlluent8.

25 ~r cent.

thro\l~h file 8cllt"\(lules.

h~lS hPl"loll p1~h~"tl in .


,Ip,tl of nttention nnd cnrl'ful cOllsitler_Hioll ()n~.

anti tht.~ nnifonn duty of -in l~tlonts h~lS.

het'n bt~t()"·\"lo(l. tll" I)lnster of P:H·i~.

in the ,l\ltle~ upon ll"t.)n h:l\""e been nud ure relatiYely h:lrrf\l ()n the otl1er h~lnd, tllb.1:-e is the patent rou~h :ultl bl"lo:l~ 15 IlPr lml€'$8 tlH:~re be n snftieil)out intlnce the rough' Ul~ut III tile ,,"n~- of lwotectiou or bOUllt~· giycn ti,€'l~·_ j.'la~ston("lo$.

~rnnihlo :uul ~tones ~eneralh-.


ll:l,-e an ~l{l ,alorelu t.luh- of it ,,-ill be tll :liul the finisbed nrtielp 30' per.

possible in this c~tlntry~ :lS it bns b('t"ll founl1 .20 J)l\r' el\Ul, ~ent.

:\I:lrbll~ in the rough.

tllat is.

snwu in ; inll)(k~ible in nIl t.ther "'onntl"i~s!, e\""er h~ ri8e ra\y o~.

,,·bl:..h sl:lbs, hut not other\\"ise lll:lnufacturoo.

ha~ n : fronl dnt)" of 20 Jlt~r <,ent.

nntl thp finished nrtiele!

abound in this (·o\mtr~-.


to tile inde}lenll(lont bears n clUb- of 00 per cent.

Sl:ltl\ :ultltn.nnu- : nnd .self-l"ontnil~ed mnnufn('turl~ of the lal"g...'l" factur~lo~ of slntt'--roofing slates.

slnt('-}lencils~ : I~orhon of the trOll n~{\tl for the ("0118\1111!)

thl"lo latter nf "'hich : tlon of the colUltr~-_ That problem hns been school or ",.iting slat("lo8, in part before b~- the fixing of n bore :l complex.

aUtl nllSul,(U~" high dut~·.


b,l\"c ; ~(,lYe<l ~n 1l1:1<'e<1 at the ulliforul :Ultl '~grnding the duties on puddled and bar c~nt, thllo pre~ellt dul,' being !

iron in proportion, :-...

.

:Sl!rl~l)·.

Ilothin~ i $13 per ton, upon which to buill· up the Inlfl~ll1a.cture of iron in the COlllltr.\".

S~r..p, ~.

FOSTER.

The stOl~· is told thnt nt!


~Yl\lCh IS a l·U'V mnt~rhl1~ out of ,,-Ilich b,lr one tiDle slate ,,-as ch~ at so much; Iron is made, "'US, buwever, when these per square foot, and the w~:r adopted to gt.

"lot Iduties were arrgnged in 1881. left a't the hu at the dll~" on slate-pencils ,yas to find.

out Iport duty o!

$-- ~b€' consetlUence of that ,,·ould I ~ns been slmpl~· this:.
Instead of the bar the ulunber of slate-pencils calcu1-' Iron of the country beIng lllsde from })ud and lie ate the aR10unt of the dut~· from tb.lt.

the product from pig iron, nnd the latter from the Iron ores of the coun- stat€' r try, no bar iron is at prt·sent Illude iIi the Show-("a~,t.":;..

\\"hid} bore .

ht~r helting.

llos~.

l'ncking uud lllat$.. \yh..-"ll ~nlcinC'(1 or lunuuf 'c'tur(~d~ : high.

.Int" of 2\l p(or i tlut~.. of $-I per ":ls ..bsu~ In the Natlou.\l 1 '.)1.".'~-.

:-.

.
:-.

.

:\~r, )nIAl:~ (Bot~l,,:eln.

for the Innnufncture of iron.

that bv ,,-ay of inforoUltion to the hon.

· Mr. OSTER.

F ('t~nt and 20 pet· ceU\ ton upon pig iron.

the prO{l\~ction of ()n!

~~une d\lt~· of (.

)11 the one haJ\d.

-1 II died bars, llut upon it.

l)er ~nt.

felet t!lat that to Cellh'llt, square :',·s})e..,,- ('.'nt.

foot Jlt.~r in :!

:i a :?30 r 4-\11 \\"\\ th:tt into l~\l-S, luust it Sh,lll h:l\"'{' is t"'On(~"l"1H~l.

\Y:lS in st~l.
\Y:lS in st~l.

fr01H l)\l.ldlt~l frOll) ~13 i,) ~10, is ~ ton" r~lucill~ it " ..(~ luu~t ht"':ll" in lUintl R,\th hounth"'s in pi~ ir\lu It "-as at 111:1t : \lppnlUou of Inakill~ it'-))l.. ~htit ~f~l':ll), eSlhl~r t}1\-' ru\th'l~!

lluction \yill i~ not to t~\kt·· to b~" nl~- 11\)11, fril'ntl~ oppositl~ to- ~ lli~ iroll~ ~o thn t It .-\ rl~ ('\")uutr.r bt.~ 1l1~Hle ~lso in pu,ltlll~l bar lU~Hh- i~ Illndl~ frolll ·rh~lt h:lS its ~ffi..~t !

t'l'-HU $t) h) ~.

bl'illg :l rt~hH.


"th~n l)f $4 l)t~r ~t"l':l}) or illll)()rh~l ~(·r:lp, iroll.

but it~ lUost !

ton.. :uu.1 iron nnd stel~l \\"ill btl.

trt"':lh-..l aU upon tilt" 'lu:llity t)f tilt· the i tll.rou~b.

011 :Ul equalit~· :18 rl"Sllt...·ts thl~ilu­ ~t"rinu~ l·tl"t"\~t i~ h\ l"~t:n'l ill "':l~· ,1l'Yt'lc.IllUt"ut" $0 lUlU.

'1l d ..~ir,~1.

uf the ir\lu ill- ; post8.

aUtl UP()ll th,"'~e lo\\-~'rt~l dutit.

"'~ on sh"l~l S,'nu~ Int"tlh~l.

tht"l',-t\al'''.. b:Hl to be Inn~l i~'On !lle !


'-'\(luetiuus hn,""l~ b\~\n lU:Hh'" in dU8tr,r, r\"'tllO\-l\ that tli~Hl\-:l1lt- f the :lrti,-"lt"$ ,,'hil-h arp lU:Hnlf,lt"tUn:~l fl"\\lll in ol'h.

"'r h. :ltloph"\tl tlh~ intl"'uthHl of dle G,,)Y-!

thl~~e f\)rIU8 ,)1' h,\)u, But in ur\h."'''

to stiluu It n~t~, \\'hi,-h has befllU!

l~ne thl' pr()(l\l..~thln of pUdtlh"tl hal' fl\")lll til" tlh~ lith' \'ruult\ut thp PNN'~ ,.f th~Y\"'l')Pllh\ut :lss,\Uh'tl to dl'stro~·: Illny l\\H ~top ~H tl1\' ll.
)int nf pi~ il"\)ll" it i~ lli~ht_ is uot our iUh-lltiHll l~Y,\r:,' Yl~~tige ()f pr\)tl"'("th)ll, ~\) f:lr as the iroll 1)1"oP(~~(~l to gh-t~ a bount~- of $:!
l>l-'l' tou UP")ll bllo~lr in pU(}(lll"{} l~lr, :lud \\'hat eOl'l'\'~P')lld$ to that ~eht~l\llt.~ and luiu..l that in 1~~7 th,\ tir~t 1',-,ll :lttl~lUllt 1natl,- to gi\ge h...)u :lllY 1""''11 l)rotection in this I pUtldl(l(l bar to run th-,~ y\~al~ ff\)U1 the lla~' th,lt a)- : of this t'U,h'tnlPllt .. ,Hul ~\I~H \\-itIl thi~ proYi~ot 4"ountr~-, thou~h the Xntional I\)lh-~· 4.1nh"s fr0111 18.& !
th:lt it in 1\\".. y\-nr~ 1'1'''IH thi~" f'Ot" in~tnUt"llo tht"'rt'\ "-as notbill~ but :1 rt'\Yt~IHle tnriff upon::1 hl:l~t fnrn:\l~~\ ~t,l1"(~ ~lnd ~,'\t~ tlh~ tht'" iron ft')!

}l 18,S up tn 1S.~', pt~riot1.

and on)~- six ~-t'\:n~ :1;:0. th:1t P:lrli:t- : lW'Ut'\t1t of tlh\ houutit~.. on th(" ~tr,~ngth of UH'Ut :l~("'llh~l to :1 St'lh~Uh.

'\ \\'hit~h }1:\(1 for its !

,,-hi("h it tU:hlt' tilt" in\"esttUt~nt, for rh't\ \'t"\:l~ ohjt~~t the dt."'\"t~l\)pnH.
"'nt t)f the iron industry: fronl tht~ tillh~ it t~'_)lnnH~Ih"·t~\l to lU:lkt~ tll, hy :1 S~'ShloIU of protpct.i,,)\l ~llul bt--.unty, "'h~; pi~ iron or )Hul,Ut....l ll:l~, pl\)hlpl~l "-hich t"\)~lfl"()ntNl the (;o\,prlUUl'ut j \\-~,~ tlu~: In t1u~ ti~st pl:\~'t~, llO,t th\.~ tlu.~ ~,"(,"()nrl pos.."'ihh~ to tho~e \\'1\\) Inakl~ up :111 (.f :ll"ti("lt~S frOllt the iron of ~ll~Uner\~~tJ"lt is,,; ~h~ ])u(lll1t~l bnr.. ~lr th.\'\ bnr !r\\~l, ln~ he-t\\-N'll tht~ t.1oYt'\nnu~ut thi~ :\s thl""ir po1ic~-, fulln\\-~: ('ustoln~ t1ut~- ~llltl I\rpspnt:-tllt.~ duty ll\"'lUg ~-l I)~-r h)U, hount'" ~2 ller tOll, " -EDG ,n l' ...",-~\o.. to :ll1opt; it i~ :lS.
to kt.~lo]l UJh.\U llig iron thl~ s:un~ hOUllt~· in th,,~ ~U1H'" \\':l~', lh", (,IIA]~I.·rl)X, H\\\\' .In ~h"'t.~r- : e:lse of ')lh~ ~t:lrtingo four tlh"Stlo t\YO confllct.lng llltt\rpsts.
; d'\h~ ~ , ~h, lIr, }"'OSTER, Ytlos: tbe nl~t ton is ~lh'-:l~-S ; thl~ iU\'l"'Shlh.\ut : X,)t Till' ~ tlhJt\{.-t of ~1 h,)uut~-" iu ,"'\"\-ry e:lSt'.. is tu induel" (.1" ":\l"itn) into tlh~ tnakin~ of into tht, pi~ or pUtltllt~1 g\·llt·i~ll iUh"'rt~t~ dlat It is i iroll, tlh\ ·rhl' i t.lh\$e intlustries ~h:lll be distributed in t1ift\~l'­ ,,-hieh has occurrt""d fro1n : ,~nt.
p:1rts of th(\ l'O\111t 1':", sn :l~ to Oyel"l'OIU(', tht"" h,-:)\"y l'O~t of tUstri the b:1r iron of the l~untry i hutiou.. C01l8Pt]Ut'llt on our ~(~)gl"lphit.

"'ll ex UlllltlorstOOtl pig iron ~l prOh"'l"tit.\ll of $6 1\\..·" tou, prOl'k)St.~l to tlist.urb thnt (lu~', nut tlitticulty!, llo\\-(~\·er.. the introduction of SCI':ll)!'
untl lllakillg of nIl froll1 Sl"I~lp.. llnd to b(\ lUt'\~ nnd the proposal, h"\ut, t\( _the GO'-t~rlun~nt t~l~tl~"'S~~f!,-')~n ~ t~""(,fl~-~,~Ul~tU t..h~lo ~t,U" ~~ In~t~~l(l of "'-- ,llul _lIter the l~t of=f\)r til-e ~we:lrs, "Tnllunr'-.. l~a_ $-I per tOll" l'ht' hon, gentl\.." t'\utl ~ of,.

tht~ i l,n:ul proP08t.~S to tie the h:nl(l~ of P,lrlhuut"\llt ~rr, l·..\TI·~R~()~ (Bl"nnU, "'ill tht' ~)ld (~\ll­ :\11", PATEHSO~ {lll"~lnn, tlH.

othPl"S : to d{'st~y I \~prU$ goo ,)U fnr t1\-,'\ '\"(,:11~' ?
That giYe~ to i irt)u frolH the 01'\· it ht~ in tlh' \\'ill :"P~ll"S frolH this tIle prnctical : to :1 hlr~~ ~xtt.

'nt" is ~o Inakt~ t1H.~ ~rn}) ~ ~Ir.

mLLS (Both,,-elH, to gh-e a~ 1Ul\t·h l"t~lipf ,lS I (~onchl(hll(l nriet1~- stntetl.

lt \\-ill h:\\'\~ till" ti\·~ ;yt~~r~ (HU" U',)ll ltulu~tr~-: In ~' .

~Ir, F08TI-:I:, Thpy ~'l \)ll th',' Yt":lrs frnnl ,nul tht'.

Ct'rn, but n.\t killtl~ i thi~ thUll., ~'ln\{.~ l;nnnt~· :l' l,lt 1.. on tit.

nt.
nt.

t tleY\'ltll)llU-nt of in our dutit~S_ ~(l", FO$·rJ-:.l~, Th:lt 4)l\t\ 1~~t.

)8"1'}-:H, 'I'} ,'~ ,\th\-r~, i~ ill ll)ne(\.. h:l\-~ ton, \'Oll- th,' ~lr, t,lll~ 1" :It It .

.. ~ Sir i~IOI-L-\RD C...illl"VRlG·H-r, luucb l-e'·t.~nue 4.10 ,-on expect frOlU tb:1t -: :\Ir, 1"~OSl'ER" As :ln~· hnY ,tit"\S !1u.~ b:uu18 !

o..f Pnrbanll~nt.

,,-!lu,-h IS eU:lcte4.1 ,la \\" I th.


'~ thl~ llnlhls of Pnrh:unt~nt to that exte-nt, tit~~ th~ h~\n\ls of is 8UpPOSM i l):lrlimn~nt just ns much ~Ultl no more tb:ln ...-\ll~- :\(1".

FOS·l"I-~R..

It is hnpos..~ible to lll,lke :ln~- i 'l'he P~l"ut Bouut)- .-\.ct (-stiul'lte.

Under thnt tl~at not.

a Yery grent (ll"nl _of f?~i~~ .. scr:~p i the one no,,' prop\')sed \yill (10, "-Ill be lluportl'\l, Our.

ObJl""Ct the lllanufncture of bnr Iron from tIle Iron of I th 1 ,'" the (.
(nmtr\"-frolu tIle Illlddled klrs.

IS to ,lndut;(~ l Sir RIClL-\..l~D C :\.P·!

'\VRIClPr f S e ,oss 0 reoy\.

nu~ ~-ou ~xp~t for th~eo pro- 'Vb- t ,1 dtlt~- it ~ ~ • - ~ \ i I lItH" i .. l I cl~d1ng8.

bonnt)W luclUtll'tl ?

I M~, ~STF..R: .

.. .. lIr.. FOSTER.

Pecot tbfl.t dntv to be probibltit"e ?

Sir lUCHARD O.-\RT\YRIGII·.r, You ex- 1 : - .


, lU:1Y lueu.bon thnt nl- thoUgh In the til~t '''ears of U1C bolmt'" no It "ill largely act as a· very great progress ,vns Innde~ thl"rc· hns deterrent to the importation of foreign SCl-np_ t been in the last thn""e ~-ears grent prog~ss in the manufacture of iron.

and last :)-ear It Is proposetl the manufacture of pig iron in tlns oolmtry.

upon pig iron" nf merchantable iron to the country, a re- upon ,,"hich the honno- wns pntt), :uuounted to ~OOO tons..
This year, up to March, the dUCtiOD will be made in bar iron of $3 per to keep tbe duty nnd bount~..

In orde-r to reduce the cost I 81... i " TI· • (l it .

).

(tf tlu"' , ( ,,-ill l·rol and 1 HOI steel \Yhich.

~.

( 8 ( 3U10Ullt So that lIe ou.

::ht in- pound.

:\.... ·11;~t·11 '0 ilnplenlents.

i~ calelllatctl.

:18 at IH·esellt.

'k fOl'merl T ~ ,vhen cut to ~ha}le frolll i tiV(~ p'r c 'nt h' I b r.rhe dutr on ; iron or In a th.'

'Ya~ -12.4)4JO ton~.


I'''O~TEl{ ~-l·"·"· tl Ie t )~~ on Sir RIC·I-IAltD C.\.UT\VRI(;lIT.

·~Ir.

EI)G·AR.

::\lr.

FOSTEH.

tleppn,ls upon tIH} (}(,yelopnH'nt.

then is.

i shapes anti.

~pecHl1 sections, .

.

'I'hat l~, on the t\yo.

()n the t,,·o.

,,-hieh IS the only ,,·a~·.

I suppose, Ill) \Y:l\-~" nud'" tr~lul~'·~l\·~ .. of :l~':\ fOl:nl ).[.

1. t· 11.

.1 e( ~ O\\"illg to tl1c reduction prOI)Osed in duties.
i «v •~ '·11' \\TOlprht ser:t1) iron and s('rnp steel HS I IUlye stntp(} it.. and the duty upon pig ,tha~ t,Yent~·-fl\-e pounds per lInen] iron is ~4 per ton.

obser,(.~ tll:lt illthuation of the los~ of rf.\YCllUe, pursuant!

like.

on tJle rl'fluction~ he proposes to nl:1kl~ill Ibuilders.

the one C:lse of $;~ per ton :lud in the other j brid~e builders for 8-1: per tOll.

lJ~fore hhn.

l'ol1t~f1 :llllOUllt there is CVt'ry possibility that the current shp(,ts of steel.

but nut uloulded, pun<:hetl.

~(.


(a pig' iron llHl(lt~ in thi~ (·oltutr~· polished.

or other,vise luanufactured, and he year ,,·ill to the ('xtent of :'0.000 tOllS.

The houllty illg- of a ~"1'cater ,:llue ihall fom' cents Itt.')"

upHn pllelflh,a hal"~ ,,,ero forlnerly charged at the rn,t' cr(~lse that nnlonnt h.\· ahout one-half, so that of 12Y2 per cent.

This is a qualit)· of stet"\l :uHI the duty ha~ for the upxt.

lhr.

'e or four ~·e:lrs-thp bounty not Ill:lfll\ in this country, heing $:!

pt'!"
pt'!"

tOll-the :U110unt paid ,,-ill rUll : been rl'c1~lt'ed to the nomi~al rate of .

;j .pl~r froll} sno.ooo np prolJa hly to $120.000, or.

eent, ,,"Inch, of course, 'YIII be.

a dlstlnt.

't to the.

manufacturers of Implem~nt8 $1;';0.000.

Of ('our:.;;('.

all ;!aill in nnd other artIcles Iuade frolu tb~s~ nlaterlals.

l·:Lpidit~· :Ind ..x.t('lll ,,,hICh ,,,ere 1~2 the IH'otluet ion I t1' this kind (tf iron.

: I·...org"ings of iron and steel, .


Cl"nts per poun(l. but not less thau ;{;j per : cent, huye been tixed at ;~a per ~ent.

Rolk"<.l :~ngles~ ?hannels•.

st.ruct~l ..al '''C:Ighlng n.ass ~·:lrfl.

Ol}(~·h:llf ; '''Inch ,vere forIuerly charged :11. !

cent per pound and 10 per cent nd ,·aIOl"l'lU.

I did not I have been placed at :~5 per cent.

Rolled iroJI the bon.

g'('llth)IlWIl ga,·e nnr i ()It steel angles, channels, he:ul1s.
and the \Yllich ,vere hll'gely lISPfl hy bridge b~' ,,,hen iJllllorted th(~ purpose of bridgf~ to l1:n·e those 11gurt~s !building, cnme in at 12112 per cent, hu.,c be(~]) Iplnced nt 12th per cent.

the cOI~dition bei!l;: far as can be ealcu-; taken oft, so that the~·.

1113J· be Importe~ for ·lud lUUllufactures Iuse bJ· an~· one :it thiS rate.

Iron brJ(lgl"s I , 'an<1 !

':tructural • gee to .


bout S3~O.OOO basing the 1 1 /4- cents per pound, but not less than thrrty- t \\1 Itl~t IIron '~ld ~t~l ~::ih'~ {~3·~~-Ol~ railsP;~r Cl:~}: cnleulatioll upon the inlportatiolls of PUDc1~ed yt\:lY, '''bleh :rou e:lll Blake aD eStilllate.

But the I . '

.

hon.

gelltlpulan ,,-ill ~pe that to estiInate ,vitIl I ()~ no~.

pnnc~e.d.

fo~~rl~ .~ut~..tble ~t $6 ver :UIJ' degree of aecuracy 'Yill DC iInpossilJle, I tOIl.
"Ill be tLxed her~afteI ..1t •.~O per cent.

,,-ill he thtl I he('ause \Y(~ do not ~(lIO\V ,vhat .·pffects of l~ar iron and stcel~ as I ha vc stated.

al'e i reducPf} to $10 a tOil.

frOlll $l:~ a ton.

Iron I or :-;heared, hoop~.

and skelp 1tie plates, formerly charged $12 per tOll, "·ill .

SHillS.

iron or stepl, sheare(} or rollt.

a in groo,es, i be 30 per cent.

There is a qualiQ" of iron ,vidths not thinner!


\vhicb comes into the countr~" and is lal'g~l¥ and iron or steel of all It has bOI'n~ than nUlnber se,·enteell gange, n.c.s., ,,·ill be : used, known as S,vedish iron.

iron or I a dut~T of 20 per cent, being of high value, 810 per ton.

Plates or sheets of steel o,er thirty inches ,,,ide, and not less!

:Ind necessary for certain processes of lnanu than one·quarter of all inch in thickness,!

f3cture.

nnd fillill.


:; a plaCe which could not commonly denolninated boiler plate.

and llnf-l be filled by our o,,·u rolled iron.

'l'he duty versal mill or been If, nlade (>xceeding thirty inches ..:\..-xles, car springs, and springs of 12~~ per cent.

A. large reduction is Dlade in!

iron or steel, or parts thereof, formerl.r $30 iron or steel sheets, hoops, bands, and strlI>~, i per ton, and not less than 35 per cent, ha,·e or other iron or steel of all widths.
sheet iron, Ibeen plnced at 35 per eent.

lfalleable iron "~er(' eommon or black, smooth, polished, coated I castings or galvanized and Canada plates.

Dumber Ifor.mer1~" $25 per ton.

and not less than ~~o the change per cent.

This dutJ· has been fixed at 25 sp,enteen gauge, and thinner, bein~ frOID 12112 per cent~ and, in some cases, I per cent.

Cast iron vessels, plates, stove as high as 00 per cent, to 5 per cent.
These plates and irons~ sad irons, hatters' irons, irons, and cnstings of iron not eise.

are ma.t(\rials "'hich at present are not made tailors' in Canada, and ,,,hich are largely used, ana ,,·here specified, are reduced from $1(; per ton the duty is put at a nominal rate so as to and not to 27th per iron pipe of eve~" descleiptioll, encourage those industries ,,,hich use these cent.

Cast lli:l.terials.
Cast lli:l.terials.

formerly $12 per ton, and not less than 35 ~rr CHARLTON "~hat was the dUty on per cent, has been reduced to $10 per tOD.

than 35 p~ cent.

Boiler and DOt tubes of a kind not made in this countr\.

cent i~ or 12th per cent.

Plough plates, mould boards.

7% per cent, and to these have been addod land sides, and other plates for agricultural corrugated tubes, or tines for marine boile;s. this "'ouId appl~' tf) sheared or un-j electric rnil,yays.
Raihvay fish plat~8 anc"r It was either $13 pel· ton have been reduced from 15 per th('se c.lutH.

'S fl'OIl1 Jear to ye:u·.!

electric rail,,·ays ~ :\Ir.

SO~IERV'IIALE.

Does this apply to rolled edge stef"l plat(ls.

not I upon 01 er l\fr.

FOSTER.

b ...·1 .

plate?

.

less than 30 per cent :\fr.

FOSTER.

Yes, ,,-ill be!

per cent.

steel plates or Inaterial has 1, ed t 30 and steel in ,,-idth.

castings, r. bal' r ,; sheets, bands, n.e.S.. less this ... .

.... .. -, .

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_ (} • ~ Mr. ~"'OSTER.

[~I~\I{CH 2; ~ 189-t] 234 ..._-----_._--- - - - - - is at p~r to' no,,· cent This steel) pound rem:lin :lO PCI' cent.

5 ~ai18 anll the Icorrect and all uthel' illlnlelll~nts not per reduction, "'pikp8.

cent.

Steel (Jut exceeding 1(; threaded and coupled or e.ot, l~eJjt.

cOlnbined.
cOlnbined.

Shovels nnti spades, All other fh"e-tenths of a cent less than 35 torluerly ~~O per cent 3d valorenl "'Ire nn tIs, cut nails and spikes SteaTIl engines, boilers, '.rubes not welded or more there "oas 35 per cent before.

This is a distinct advantage to an industry of iron and steel, and halnmers or sledges which is largely prosecuted in this countr)".

are -on 30 Lap-,,'elded iron tUbing fOl' artesian wells tho whole, a the duties com and petroleum ,yells.
etc., remain, as before, ing dow'n fronl about 35 per cent.

On this A-~es of at 20 per cent thall 11k inches in diameter, rolled steel, are all kinds, scythes, hay knives, la,VD mo,v.. also unchanged at 15 per cent, and wrought ers, pruugL-'(l forl~s, ral\.cs, :llul hoes, not else· ,,·h~ri) spe('ifil'd~ nnd (.ther agricultural tools iron tubing, ejse,,·bel~e specified, 3;:) O\'er two inches in diutneter.

ben.r the S3111C or ll(af Cf\nt ad valoreul.

These ,yere.

some of duts as before--15 per cent.


tbenl, $~ per dozen :lnd 40 per cent: sonIa iron tubes, ,vrought Chains of tll(~nl $:!.-lO :1 dozen nnfl :Hl valorelu duties per and (iron or ,,"hich had the litnit hal' been l'educ,~'tl 81 I.er dozen and 25 ppr ('cut, ha\·e been except that tn th"(l-sixteel,ths of nlude 3:-) p(~r cpnt.

Files :ulli rasps, 35 per from nine-sixteenths an inch in di:ullcter.

n(\ecl1es~ 80 per cent.

Surgical gnh-:lllizetl ur not.


Iand dental instrunlents arc reduced frolll 20 ""fought and pressed.

horse-shoe nails, \vrou;!ht I to 1:; per cent.

S:lfes and the likc are r~ iron, steel, and other nail~.

H.e.s.. :Ind hOJ'se, duced frolll 3:) to 30 per ("l'\llt.

Fire engines.

ulltle and ox shoes have been changed from 35 pel' cent.

I ..OCODlotives for raih,·ays 'vere 1~.

'~ cents pel: pound, and not ,,-hen not per .

~ent, to.

30 per cent ad valorelU.

COlll-lless than ~2~OOO each.


The lind ting chiuse posItion naIls and spikes~ and sheathing has been stricken out, and lOCOlllotives for I in undl~rstandin~ :rou that the totul the reduc )11'.

FOS1."ER.

According to the best cal culation that can be luade, but it is a cal culation ,,·hich has no pretention to nccur acy.

n~i1s have been9".reduc~d fronl 2~ per ceu.t toIraihvays have been placed at :J:) per Ct~nt.

1,) I!er cent.

llHlchinerr, and the of Iron or steel no,,- bearing a dutl" of Ilh llike.
ha.ve been reduced fl'0111 30 l.er cent less than 35 per Ito 27~/~ per cent.

cents per pound, but not cent, have been rednc~d to three-quarten3 taelis, brads.

or of H cent per pounu.

ounc~~s sprigs, not thousand, were formerl)- 2 cents per t hou- sand, but this duty has been reduced to 1 tions Illude?

cent per thonsand.

The saUle class of goods, exc(~eding sixteen ounces to the thousand, forlnerl.r charged.

2 cents per pound, :.re rednced to 1]/~ cents per pound.
Scre,,~s, ,vhich for cOlunlonly called ,,·ood scre\\"s, BIerly had cents, 8 6 respec- cents, tively.

cents, pound, but (; l\Ir.

FOS1.'l~R.

r.rhe different kinds of for- not 'rhis is Coming to the a reduction (tf a bout one-half on the pre- niture are not included.

sent dUQ".

Other scre"·s of iron!

steel or question of ngricultural the bras~.

or other metal, not ot.her,vise pro~ Goverllll1ent ~as found that a ,"ex~ _one.

to The duty ,vhleh.
to The duty ,vhleh.

hns bee~ heret~fore 35 per videdfor, are reduced frOD} 35 per cent 30 per cent.

Wrought iron or steel nuts and cent upon lUO\YIUg machInes, binders, har '\vitb or Yesters, and the like of that, has been greatly ,vashers, ,,·ithout threads nut and bolt bla.nks '1' and Ireduced.

.A.
.A.

very strong demand has been ,vWch forluerly bore d~ties of 0 Illade by the fa.nnin~ int~rest all oyer the strap hinges, about 1 cent per pound and 25 per cent, counn·)· for a reductIon ill.that d~tl" A have been reduced to 1 cent per pound and great lllany have been, I think, a lIttle un the duty 20 per cent.

re pair and 30 per cent ad valorem are reduced should be taken off altogether; otllers, to 10 cents per pnir and 30 Per ccnt ad pres~ntinglarge sec~i?ns of the faruling c6~n­ valorem.
Clotl1es ,,·ringers, formerl.r $1 each luumty, the dutIes and 30 per cent are reduced to 25 C.ellts eaCJl should be materlalll~ reduced.

These rua and 20 per cent: Cutlery, not other'Yise pro- chines.

aioe ma~e at the present titne alnlost ,ided for, remains, as before, at 25 per cent.
exc~uslvely ?t Iron, .the percent::lge o~ ,,·ood Celluloid is not changed, the dutr being 10 which goes Into their constructI?n beIng ~e­ ller cent ad valorem, this duty involving noIupon iron ~ill, to the exte~t that it is used.

I(nife blades and blanks are 10 markably small; and the reduction of dutIes per cent.

:\Ir.

EDG.AR.
:\Ir.

EDG.AR.

These things the hone gell.. tleluan has lately ~"'ivell us are included in that estimate: Skates, formerly 20 cents per rensollable, and have asked that 3. and 11 cents have to be less than ::~;-, per cent.

loss ,vill only he $350,000 on all Sir RICIL.-\RD CARTWHIGHT'.

iron or steel rivets, bolts, change.


House furnishing hardware, build- be in ers' Imple.. .After considering the ma.tter in all which schedules have· been thrown Into one sche- its phases the Governnlent bas come to the dule.

The fOI'mer duties were 30 and 35 conclusion to reduce these from 35 per cent to 20 per cent, a reduction of 15 per cent per cent.

A common dutv has been fixed at 32~ per cent.


Adzes, hatchets, picks, mat- on the whole, and a reduction '\vhich it will ,vedges, and crow-bars tax the manufacturers of these implements tooks, the mnnufacture 01 these different per pound, to 3 reduced per different JIlents.

cabinet-makers' Il.etltIoned that protection of reductIon of track tools, iIllplements, hardware formerly occupied In the and 8 cents, cents have been co~t two and etc.

felt A.lll 235 [CO~l:\lONS] • ~ • \ ~, .


_ .. _ that • ~ '\ 111011)(,'l1t the ~O\eIU~lent:for nye ,-ears.

:1[.

L...-\.LRI.E~ ..

I!~'V ,'as it a ~ ~I~.

CH...-\.HLIO~ .. Ha:s I )Ir.

FOSTER.

All I can say to nl~- lIon.

to Ineet and keep tbe fipld in ,,"hich their 1 conlpetitioll is at present eyen quite heav:r. ; friend is tha.t.

"'e ha\'~ t?

legislate.

l1n~lel· especially in the Korth-"'est: but a re<luc-!

present condItIons.
present condItIons.

ThIS IS the legislatIon tion w'iih \vhich dIe Govcrlllllent beli(l\·es i ,vhieh "'0 propose under present condition_ that they cnn prosecute their indust:J.·~,., \vbile, i • .

at the sanlO titne, it '''ill have the eff~t of j greatl~· cheapening one of the largest Itell1S ; :l~O about reclploclQ .

of expenditure to 'Yhich the fnrlller has I been subjected, e8peeiall~· in ;;rnin gro,,-ing; districts.

)lr.

I·08IER.

Ho,," has.

It ~eer; for the- !last reclpl:oclt~,... H<;)Jl.


.gentlenlen have been preaclllng reC1I)rOclty l'0 one more than nlV' bon.

~?n..sldered ~e.

qu(\~....tl?n o~ ~'~~l~~lng r:cl~ro: ; friend.

,,:ho has just spoken, hailed ,vlth df' CIU to the '(.

nl~ed 8t4.1te~ In ,1,.,'11CUI\~1:1..\~ 1!1l ,,·ith exuberant jor the result of p!e?1ents undel tnriff.!

the late election in the United States, und ~lvlng free.

adlllission ~ t?

ou~:.


a~lcultura.~ : the cOluing into pO""er of the DenlOc.rutic Impl~~ents Into t~le Lillte<l ~t..ltes on tIl(: party, because he believed there "·ouid be a condItIon that t~en"S ~re ndulltted here on free and open road to free trade ill the the same terms .

,vha.t has happened?

is tl\ynre Thnt although that part)- has an over\vhehu in the ing Innjority in the House of Ilepre8ellta in tho COlluuittee's Draft Bill that linitcd States Senate.
ngricultural illlple-; tiYes nnd a clenr majorit~· in the Senate.

Ulents have been Illuue free to the people; after a year and a halt of arduous struggle.

count1'~·.

So far as tbe luunufac-!

they have succeeded in getting us far 3S of in the Ithe report stage of 3.

Bill 'Yhich is protee.

turers and buyers of United States art~ concerned, to tlle other.

an(I ,,-bethel' i 'Yhich expressly abolishes ~,·err reciproeit:-· duty upon agricultural iInpleluellts, Canada reduces her dut)~ in "'hole or in pnrt.
; treaty that has been euterf'd into ,vith the there Is no i tive from one end of it lIr.

FOSTER.

The GovernUlent ~h~ tClffiS of thel~ 1.7nited States.

But file sears about i light and.

irnplelnents Sir RICllAUD C.-\.RT\'~RIGH1.'.

I would i'['nited Stn tes.

tbe bOll.

gentleman ,vhat i iIuplenlents.

:\Ir.

)Ic~IILLA,X.

I :\11".

IJ.-\.lJUIER.

The hOll.

gentlenluu was like to kno,v ft'Olll It is ex- !


fiskt~d, \yhat he ,,?ould do about rel'iprocitv he calls nglicultural tremely inlporttlllt that that should be clearl~" j in agricultutal ilnplements; find his lU~S\,"(:r ; 'YfiS that he had to legi~late accor(lin~ to understood.

,yould ask the hon.!

I)l·(·~:t~nt conditions.

That is to 8U~·, thnt the the l)nih~'d States bus not j hone gentl~nlnn canllot do so ,,·llt.

'n ,ye tin Hot gt)utlenu1n if 'Yith re~p(.


'Ct to n~"'1'icul- : kno,v "That "ill be done by the ljnitefl adopted a I.rovh.ioll theIn ; St:lt~S.

But a Inoment fi~O the hOll.

g-entle tural inlplclllellts that the~" 'Yill aUo,,' to come into their ('ountry free from any' nlal~ submitt~d U l'eciprocit~,.

clause ,,,,ith res ,vithout kIlO,vill;; any other countr)' that a1Io""S .\.Iuerican :lgricul- pect to other articles.

turnl inlplpllH'uts to eOlue in free: legislation '1'1 1 lOll.
gen enul.U ,,"on be perfe~tly correct if he h:id asked whether a COlllllllttee had not but Ilothin~ has ~'et 1!1Y.

h0!l' friend.

has saul huutntlon.

ThIS clause takes machines, 1131'1'0''"8,. cu~tivators, horse vesters ments, reapt~rs.

sulk~- nnd ,valking ploughs, i s:une ,vay_ all of "?hich ure placed at 20 per cent.

I see no in(.-onsi~tencr in tIle le:lst.

"~e are legislating 1'Ol' \Ye - are stating IS true.
'Vlth t~at nc.,v in this legislation what under certain to certain ar tic-Ies '\ve are prepared to do ,vith the Unitoo 'Ve are h'gislating ill =re=--pect of th(· in th,-~ III 11lO""lng cc:rditions and with respect seed drills, binding atulch- \ ("lanses under discussioll, self-bInding har,·ester~, luu'- I StUtl'S.

ld '\V'ould h3 than in the present ease.

\Vhat ~ ourselves in both respects.

recolllluended that, I that, not the IUnite<l States rakes.

''''ithou t l.lee~ adopted: )11".

FOSTER.


JllOre what F,)l.:·1:'l"'[' • '- ~ ~~.

hinders, l'xaetl~" .

Ie ' I t·l Ie.

..Ll i .

.

f 'I')' coun~li~s not if h'!1llorte<l frou~ _ I Sir RICILUtD OART"~RIGHT.

There ,,-ill liS IS a matter?

con i be some loss of revenue.

Can the hon.

Miu- The Se~ate ~Inance; ister state ho,," much?

- 1\1- CHA,RLTON' ."

1.

... .

sldera1?le llnportunce.

CODlmlttee'g draft on the TurltI BIll pro- I I do not know that there "'ides that ngMcultnral ilnplelnents shall be!
free of I ,,-jll be loss of re\Tenue.

Portable machin('s admitted into the l..Tnited Stutes threshers and se})a~ dutr posing d!ltIes upon agrlcnltur:il IIUplemellts 'I raters, now bearing 35 per cent, wI] be: of AmerIcan manufacture ~xported to thn t conntr~".

That.

undoubtedl~-.

,vill be a ques- I tion tllUt the Hovernllient "'ill he called upon \ ~Ir.

~{cMULLEN.

Before the hon.

gentle to meet.


Xo doubt that provision in the i man leaY'es the question of agricultural hn ,,~ill be retained if the ,,:rilson Bill Iplements I desire to ask, whether the Go\" tariff passes: :lnd if that provision is made I pre-II ernment will claim the right to re-value tho~e­ ~~me the people ot Canada "!
'ould like to instrnments at the port where they arc en know, now that the tariff is under considera- the tion, ,,"hat course the Government of Canada II invoice of the cost where the~~ are manu· would be likel~" to tnke in the prelnises.

)11'.

FOSTER.

iIll- iporL'l.ble steam engines, charged 30 per cent.

tered, or will they be bound to uccept factured ?

.

)Jr. }~OS1'AR.
.

)Jr. }~OS1'AR.

237 [~I4-\.ItCH 27, 1894] 238 and I spokes, the better lithographing to 10 per cent; :=:=::-:========------------- re\"enue is obtained.

--- --------- -----_.

------- --'--- - Bookbinders' presses - ~rr.

FOST;;' -~~e Wi~l-~:~I~ t~~ -- ~I:eIgl'lll- ~atc~-c.~s~~.

remains the sa~~.-10 P:'~ _._- _.

-- ---------------------- - - - - 'rype for printing will cent, importattons.lnuUl and nickel tion in raising the duty still thought conrse ,vith respect to those machines as we l.-ent at!
yalOrelll ; Britannia luetnl and lit'r f~llo"l' "'Pith regard to other silver, n1flDufactures of, Se,ving machines~ "'hich were $a each until rcuulin the same, 25 per c.ent.

)lanuf:l~­ 20 per cent~ h!1ve been ~ade .30 p~r cent.

\ hIres o~ gold und.

silyer je,veller)" huve to 2;) Pumps of all kInds and WIUd-lDllls ""Ill have been rUlsed from :!O per cent ltt-·t ,,"ould hu.v"e bad no hesitn a duty of 30 })('l" cent.
remain as before, 20 per cent; tJ"pe metal I luore if the effect or it would htlxe hatl ,,"ill bo 10 per cent.

tools, and: bringing in additional re,enue, but ,vhen ~·ou and printing remain at 10 per 1go beyond a certain limit of duty no &lthli.. printing machines "'ill cent.

Plates engraved on w'ood and on steel I tional Sterling' ~ih·(·r ,,"ill be 20 per cent.

Stereotypes, electro-!


table ",·are and plated ,,"are, 30 per cent, t.~·pes and celluloids, for ahnanacs and sueh pIa ted cutlery, 35 per cent, precious stollt'S, like, will reulain at 2 cents per square inch: !10 per cent; clocks, 25 per ("ellt instead of those of books ,,-ill be free, because it ha~ 130; ,,,atches reulain as before, 25 per <"l\ut.

the duty upon them has!

.Te,vellery and "'atch C:lses have been brought been found that tbo8e Iin undel- a COlllnlOll dut~" vf 35 l'l\r Cl\Jlt.
in no sense uffected for brnnches of the printing trade in this COUll- ICOIning to ruineruls, fe,," clJangeS have bt'('1l t.ry.

1.

'he dutJ," upon the stereot~"pes and!

Ill:Hle.

Phlulhago hns been l'(.

'(luce<l frolll 15 electros has, howeyer.

a different effect on i per cent llulllllfactlu'ps" ..-f book publishing, and the fact that these will!

llltlluoogo frOID 30 IK'1' cent to 25 per CPJlt.

be mafie free.

,vhile it will not in an~" respect i CHile or rattan, split, "'ill be 121h per et.'llt.
the!

to 10 per cent; nlanufacture~ of ])lUlubago injnre the printing business, will assist publishing and pap(\r interest~.

Bird cnges!

frolu 30 per cent to 25 per eent.

)lanufnc ,,"ill be 35 per cent; barb ,,'ire fencing ,,-ill!

tun~ of cnne or ratclIl "ill be 15 per cent.

be reduced to ~4 of :t cent per pound, buck-!

I.Juluber and t.hllber manufactures, further thorn :md strip fencing of iron \",ill be lh cent I than roug-h s:l.\vn or hewn, 20 per cent; }){'r pound.
~Iachine (~ard clothing will be 1hubs, ,,,,het.·Is to 10 25 per cent.

:llul ,,"ire ("loth of h1'n8~, copper!

hu '''C been reduced from 15 per cent Hnd tin will be kept at rt'clneed per cent.

duced from 15 to 10 per cent.

As a con-!

cession to the manufacturers of wire fen-; cing and wire nalls, on ,,,hOlll the cOlllpeti-l un the dut)9 on a ,Yngon !

tion will fall "';th Yel')" great torce~ and "Yho: I ,,"ill come to that present ~Ianu:factures of ,,"ood and brushes.
25 under the reduced duties ""ill tind it :l hard h·.

struggle to keep up their end of the cornpe- per cent; umbrella and parasol stick8~ :.

'0 titio~ we have given thenl a little relief hy per cent; yeneers of wood reduced frol11 10 reducing tbe ,,,,ire used for those purpose~, pel- cent to ;j per cent.

Picture aull I,hotu frotn No.

11 to No" 14 gauge, from 25 per!

graph frn.tnes have been reduced fro III 35 !per cent to 30 per cent; nlouldings of "'ood c~nt to 15 per cent.

\Vbat 1s!

from 25 per.


ce~t to 20 per cent;.

fishing S· RICHARD CART\VRIGHT.

the 8ame I-ate of .

?

iron ) our estImate of the loss of Iel enue .

think there ,,"ill not be!

or other nL'lterinl reduced frOID :'{5 per cent I -Wire rope of iron or: to 30 per cent; coffins :In<1 caskets ha\"e bern tne same i-ate.

20 Iper cent; pnils.

'Vire of br:iss nnd copper is re- i frOl11 25 per cent to 20 per cent.

1 l'(tds are Illumt:uned at i dut~.., 30 per cent; furniture uf wood.

any loss of revenue.


steel will be 25 per cent; manufactures.

ar.. ' reduced frolU 35 per c{\nt to 25 per cent.

ticles or wares not specially enumerated nre reduced from 30 per cent to 27th per cent.

}1'ireanns ,,-ill pay 20 per cent.

)11'.

FOS1.'ER.

That will be some relief Corset clasps, spoon clasps or busks and other :11"- to t.he hon.

gentlelnan opposite.

Billiard cles of that class ,,·Ul be 5 cents per ponnd _ulbles, ,,,,hich had a series of dutie8, ~I.

(·eitie and 20 per cent.


Gas, coal oil and electric: nnd ad valorem according to theil' gr:lde~ light, fixtures ,vill pay 27th per cent.

Gas i and value, have all been put in one list at 35 meters ,vill pa~9 35 per cent.

Bells of any!

per cent.

t,vo divi description, 25 per cent.

Brass and COPPllf; sions have been made.

CarrIages ~:ld a nails will also pa~" 25 per cent; zinc, manu-1 complex duty and were graded accordlug to factures of, 25 per cent; babbit metn.1, 10 I their value.
It hus been decided to m:lke per cent; phosphor bronze, 10 per cent; i 8-11 farln anfl freight 'VUg'OllS~ carts~ <1r:l~"s ,vhen in bars I:.nd shnilale v-ehieles 25 per cent; and to l{\ad, 60 cents per 100 pounds, or blocks; old lead, 40 cents per 100 pounds; Imak~ <ill otl1(~r carriages and buggic:,;!

inelud- .

ntanufactures of lead, 30 per cent; cans and!


ing cbildren's carriages, at a uniforul rntc of_ packages made of tin or other material, 11,2 125 per cent cents per quart; st:tmped tinware, japanned I ~Ir.

ware, 25 per cent, enamelled iron or steel Ibicycles come in ?

ware, 30 per cent.

Telephones or telegraphic i Instnunents will be 25 per cent.

Compo- I Mr. FOSTER.

Brcycles and tricycles come sltion metal for the manufacture of 1llled lin next at 30 per cent.

)11'.

~IILLS (Both\vell).


Bless the dead.

__ • )11.

L.-\..i..'J)ERIGN.

In respect to carriages, Is ~th(\r~ an) <:h.lnee felloes and parts of P"A.TERSO~ lIre }1"OSTER.

::\11'.

FOSTER.

tubs, churns, ,.

T " (Brant).

"Yhere ete.~ _. do lr • .

ere .

, ~ 239 lC()~flIONS] 240 I • • • If a \\rhat So that ~IULOCI(.

~ the market.

)Ir.

FOSTER.

to 25 per cent.

Lead!

cent per pound ?

the lo,,'er!

Sir RICHARD C.A.R1.'WRIGHT.

the I close to 6-10, practically the ~"ftIlle.


and Sixty-four one hundredths.

That is ...-\nd on Fibre,\'are is reduced llllolasses-did he sa;r it ,,'ould be 5-10 of :l reduction ,vouId j and more of them bad, ,,~hich are tbro'Vll into Mr. that be on carriages ?

the arrangeluent of lIre f~OSTER.

You can figure it out in Ithe wording bas been mude as strict us it less than!

poss.ib~~ could be upon molasses, aB.d a third this ,vny: If a farm wagon cost $5O--sa~.

it cost $30-tbe dutJ,.


as at present II class ~s made of syrups of all kinds, the ,,·ould be $10 and 20 per cent, \vhich is $6; prodnets of the sugar cane or beet root.

\vhich!

Sir RICHARD CART'VRIGHT.

Do I the two dllti(~ ,,·ould be $16 on $30, ,vagon I understand the hone gentleman correctly that \vould be oyer 50 per cent.

cost $20 the rate per - cent, ad valorem i from this tinle out the sugnr duties ,vill be \\yould be still greater.

The pre- )6-10 of a cent per pound, nIl o\·er No.


1(; eqUivalent, sent arnwgement of duties, besides lo\vering IDutch standard ?

the ad valorem upon the farmers' wagons I nnd all that class of ,vagoDS, does away I ,vith the discrimination against "alued ,Yugons.

R"lillvay cars like are 30 per cent.

from 30 per cent pencils a:re ~e<lu:ced ~6m 30 per ce~t to 25j ~Ir.

FOSTER.

No; on molasses Ilk cents ~Iuslcal.

Inst.~ments, ,vhich ha?!

per gallon of a cel1:ain test, and "'ben it goes per cent.
n set of do~ble duties, al e reduc~ to a UDI- ~ far belo\v that test, my hope is that it \vill not form duty .. orguns .~_O per cent, l}l~e organs Ibe able to COllle in at all.

Belo\\" that test it de and sets 01: P:t rts -a per cen~.

Pianofor.tes \generates rapid1~", and becolues ultimately bad also a senes o~ mIxed duties, accordmg i \"hat is knO\Yll in the 1Iaritime Provinces as to the value of the Inst~ments, and a round !

U blackstrap."
U blackstrap."

but it is not used, I think, there duty of ~5 per c~nt halS b~ell pl~ed upo~!

except for the purpose of making blacking.

~a~ts of pIanos ~.omll~g ~ as befor e !I come next to textiles, and the first is cotton.

th~~.

~t 25 pel cent, rand muslc~~l wstIu~ents at I Hon.

gentleJllen ,,"ill the _0 per ~ent... " e come ne_ ..t to the l.tems of ; cotton schedule or items l'nn ov-er :i consider sugars tlnd s~ rups.
The pres~nt duties UpO.ll , able space and combine a very large number sugars, as hOD.

gentlemen ~vI11 re~ollect, IS Iof differe~t specifications.

An attempt has 8-10 of a cent uponTre~ed sugnl's, ..Uld upon j been made, and I think successfully, to very all sugars ab?ve No.

14 ..Dutc~ standard.

Igreatl)· arises :\IoI3.sses has Its d~ty of 11;2 cent:s per gallon, !
therefrom by making the schedulps de- ~rading up or gradmg do\vn, as the molasses I fi it · ) b becomes better or as it becomes pOO1-er The t n e an IS pIC.- decision of the (}~V'ernnlent with ref~rence l posed ~ t.o ha"'e the follo,v~g(7duties UpOil to suga r is this: to raise the colour standnrd IC?tto~:s. cot~on batts, batt~!'

and sh~e~­ or not, nhlcb formell,' from 14 to 16, so that hereafter all SUg'clrs i \\:Hldlng, ineluding No.
16 Dutch Ihad a co~pound duty, have an ad valorelll not over, standard.

Cotton warps an?

,vUl give ingress to a very valuable!

cotton yarns~ dyed or undyed,.

which had" "l. That class of sugars fit for the table and culinary 1 ~ouble or mixed duty, have been pl~ced :l.t uses, which ,vill be brought in largely from!

_5 per cent.

Cotton unblea~hed, whIch W"l~ the West Indies.

At the same time the pro- !


formerly 1 cent a square Sam, and 15 pel tective duty for refined sugars, which is now i cent ad va~orem, has been made 22% per ~hit~ or bleached cott?D.

_fabncs.

8-10 of a cent per pound, is to be reduced 20 i c:nt.

per cent and the duty ,vill be 64-100 of a I "hich ",ere ~ cents per square ~atd, and 15 I per cent, have been reduced to 25 per cent, c en t ' " i nnd cotton fabrics, printed, dyed or coloured, lir.

CHARLTON.

Looking to 'Vashington.

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\vhich came in largely at 321h per cent duty, That }Ir.

FOSTER.

No; on ra,v sugar.

That the COlllmittee ar- i takes In the cotton schedule, being some five rnnged it; but what ,,-ill be done, simple and plain, and avoiding all Iconfusion in importation and appraisement.

knows.

include cofton Does !

duck ?

the)" will put a duty Ihave been reduced to 30 per cent.

is, tha.t \vill COllle in free; all ra,,~ sugnrs.

!duty of.

--% per cent.

The)· have only 3-10 of!


Mr. FLINT.

the contusion that e~er In num ere a cent protection.

Mr. CHARLTON.

llO one I items, remember d f'.. lessen I t ' - dSed that that is.

- • Yes, Glucose, into give goes ,viII 4-10 sugar, in clear grape the United: duck.

-Mr. FOSTER.

No ; the present schedule, i 1\Ir.

FOSTER.

Everything that pro-l finds Us place in one or other ot 1%; schedules.

that Includes cotton etfect it is made of cotton if a States, these or tectlon.
Sugar candy, in which all I Mr MULOOK.

Has any estimate been .

· have an Interest, which was 1%, cents, and I cenQJ per pound.

25 per cent before, Is reduced to 35 per cent.

at~e~pted as to the reduction or revenue III The molasses clause has been made more Ithl~ · strict In order, if possible, ~Ir.

FOSTER.

No; if I made any estimate ,vhat f~ re:llly ~ood molasses, and to exclude lIt would slI!lply be a guess, and would not be from that category of a low rate of duty, !

,vorth discussing.
,vorth discussing.

I cannot tell_ We have ,,-btlt is not good molasses and syrups of dif- lone item after this : that of cotton and lineD.

ferent kinds and of all qualities, SOUle good !

xylonlte, collars and eu1fs, and shIrts of all to Include in it l Mr. FOSTER.

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thest' tennis for in The lo,l' and cent; [:\IARCH ·27~ 1894J Cuffs of cotton, these :lrticles at plices of: BlOCks to\ycls, uutl are 25 per lawn damask, ships --------_._-_.- .

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:In exceedingly for boats condi- I hemp are 20 per cent.

It is an indllstr)" \vhlch is very wldel;r I' at 25 per cent.

241 -_._._---------- ..- kinds, \vhich is a rather diffic~lt one to deal f cottons, on spools or in balls, has i)i.

'("ll kept \\"ith.
'("ll kept \\"ith.

It ,vas considered that 10 disseminated, ,vhich has grown 1:0 very large I per cent ,,,,us sufficient for the opel'ati~n of proportions, and which has one most e..xcellent I spooling; a little more revenue ,,·ill a.ccrue·.

feature about it, especially in the province or !\vhile the price ,viii not be ra.is(.~ tll the cuu trlbuted amongst the fnrillers' homes m the Ikinds, 2a per cent.

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'f all Q~ebec, in that, the ,york is very lurge!y dis- : s~lmer.
_ Twine and cotton cordag..~ Cordage not chkaWher,.a vicinity of these factories, where the wages specified, 30 per cent.

Twine for harvest nrepaid and where the effect of this dis-I binders, ,,'hich was reduced last ~·enr to 1:!~/~ tribution of the money is felt and seen In the i per cent, has been kept at thnt rate.

It is general improvement and betterment of the Ireally a lo'v rate, and has not in it no W :l In tbese collars and cuffs and!

very large element of protection, community.


llu\V t1L~lt shirts there is also a V'er,r strong competition, !

the difIerent governments have ullderUlk...-u not onl)· frolu the United States of America; to manufacture binder twine_in the l)risolls.

but more especiall~· frotH the old country: Boot and shoe laces are 30 per cent.

HtUll and from Gernulny.

;';1) labour on the continent enables them to put per sails together cent.
cheap rate, and Diakes it almost impossible, Bags or sacks of hemp, linen, cotton or jute.

makes it entirely ilOpossible, in Dl;r opinion, \vhich had half a dozen diJrerent kinds of the I duty, some of them compound, have been without a strong vantage ground, manufacturers of tWs!

lumped together under a uniform rnte of 20 nrticles The duties 1 per cent.

Bags or sacks of hemp, linell~ cot cOUlltry to hold their O\\"ll.

shirts have been Iton or jute.


and all manufactures of flax and upon collars, anti arrnuged ,vith reference Jute cloth, d~·ed or to tion of outside competition and to the feature; bleached or cnlenderL'(l, 10 Jl(·r cent.

The of the general distribution of the work in; silk duties have been kept as they were.

Silk Upon collars of cotton, !

velvets and all manufactures of silk and rib our own country.

linen.

xylonite or celluloid, the duty, which: bOllS are at the same rate of 30 per Cent.
was before 24 cents a dozen and 30 per cent, "Then ,ve come to ,,"oollens, the ditticulty of has been reducoo to 24 cents a dozen and 25 arranging the tariff ,vas ~pparent froDl tht~ 'The \,",oollen industry is exceedingl~" per cent.

been reduced.

from 4 cents a pair and 30 per diversified ill the grades and qualities of its cent to 4 cents a pair and 25 per cent.

Shirts, productions.

The present duties are specIfic of aU kinds, costing $3 or less per dozen, have: nnd ad valorem together.
On the lo\\"est been .placed at a uniform duty of 25 per cent!

class of goods, or shoddies, they range t.o :l ad valorem, a low duQ·.

wWc'h ,vill, I sup- ver~" high ad valorem equivalent.

nnt!

it b:l8 pose, have the effect of sacrificing that part: been found ilnpossible:o even \vith the b(~st of the industry to the foreign producer; but .

intentions, to do :lll that ,vas desired for HHl t It has been fc)U~ld shirts costing more than $3 per dozen, by the better class, have a specific duty of.
impossible to afford ndequate protection tu $1 per dozen and 25 per cent, instead of $1 n : that class of goods, ,,'weh at the salne time dozen and 30 per cent.

That, I believe, ,,-ill: ,Yould be l'easonable rot· straight ,voollell keep the; larger part of the industry; and; goods.

The Government bas therefore come certainly there is no complaint in the countr~· ~ to the decision to make t,vo single itpnl:-, of that these goods are not as well made and I the whole ,,,,()()lIen business.
Ynrlls, ,,-(,olleu as cheapl~" sold in Canada as they are In other: and worsted, which bore 10 cents a pound Cotton clothing and all other' and 20 per cent ad valorem, have h~~n ruad...~ countries.

to bear nn nd YaloreIu dut)- of :!7 1,f!

per ('put.

manufactures of cotton, which were 35 per cent before, will be 32~~.

Crapes.

black, :lO and all fubrics and manufactures.

tlf "'001 plush· have been put at the rate of 30 per cent.

per cent.
per cent.

Velvets, velveteens fabrics are increased from 20 per cent to 30 .

Women·s and children's <tress goods.

\ybkh per cent for revenue.

Webbing is put at 20 1are iDlported in the rough, to be .1)"::..1 nnd Jeans and coutils: finished In this country, conie in at ~2~ ller per cent, have been imported by corset-makers under a cent, under regulations ns to their dyeing nnd special schedule at 25 per cent.

and some· finishing.

·Kinds.

1'i Ih would come under the new 30 per cent rate.

; per cent.
; per cent.

Hosiery and knitted goods, ,~hieh It has been thought best to keep a special : have borne a dOUble duty of 10 cents a pound schedule for these at 25 per cent.

Laces, brnids Iand 20 per cent, are put Into one schedule fringes.

embroideries and the like are reduced f and will pay 35 per cent.

The carpet sch€d from 35 to 30 per cent, not because It was 1 ule, which ran over five or sL~ :tems.

has to particularly cheapen these i been· reduced to one, and carpets, mats.
and thought well goods, as they are in the nature of luxurIes.

j rugs are put at 30 per cent.

This ,,,ill be a but because It was thoug~t that 30 per cent: slight Increase on Brussels carpet, which be would bring a greater revenue than 35.

Cot- I tore paid 25 per cent ; but those ,,·ho buy ton sewing thre~ In hanks or on tubes.

IBrussels carpet can afford to pay a, little black, bleached or unbleached.
which W88 I more for the purpose of uniformity in the 12th per 'cent has been Increased to 15 per ',' schedule.

Carpettlng.

mats and matting of cent, whUe cotton sewing thread and cro<,bet cocoa, hemp or jute, the same :L'J before.

25 I ,,·oro ~ part of the ,voollen trade.

linen, etc., have outset.

F'elt, pressed.

of all instead of 25. and - [C():\I ~I()XS] 244 that, nl:ule ~IiniJlg Innchine.

'Y, (·omes In ~ and 81ueltiug Did you say )Ir.

FOSTER.

In passing over Fer-I three years.

l~h"(~\Yorks.


25 per .cent.

lIre PA.TERSON (Brant).

That ,vas only what could "riudo,y shades, 35 per cent.

lis concerned.

lunbrella$ Clud pnr:lsols~ 30 per cent.

Sur- imported ~...., p~r C(~llt !o t.~O 'p~r c~~t.

prior to the 16th :\Ia\", 1896, which is at the tinl~ .

llUIl.

!ng: d of its importation of ~l dnss or kind not mallufac.

is to assist, as far as po~sible, Photogr:lphic dl~·-plah~ nre ::«) per· in holding out inducements for the establish P:' C{'~t.
- ;l~~r- ~ilCIOth, which before had Iconce;;sion to the.

whole of the westeln P!lrt :l nlixed dut~l'~ bus been put in one item, at lof this country, In so far as manutncturlng 30 per cent.

GloY~s :lUt!

~itts, 35 per cent.

R~ady made clothlng~ 3:!1/2 PPl" cent.

Hats, e~~ps and 0011- an~·thing about bituminous coal?

IH..'t8.

r Brace~ :uul $U8p~11l1ers, :~ per cent.

In 1 ~~id the~: ,vere kept a.s before..

But there gicnl belts :l1ul :lllpliallcffi.

25 per cent.
25 per cent.

tlo,vers are i IS ~lle Ite~ the class of sundries.

nrtiticial free, ~hlCh de~er"'~8 the sanlc as before~ :!5 ))er cent.

Buttons of II S})f'CI:l1 luelltlon.

and the object of ,vluch IS hoof rubber.

vnlcanite or cOlupositiou, \"hich to afford a healthy amusement, at a cheap \v~r~ b(~fore' 5 cents per gross and 20 peril.

rate, to a large find deserving class of our eent, bnve been pnt at 4 Cf."nts.

per gross and popUlation.

Curling stones of granite have 20 per cent.


Buttons of l}(~url, vegetable bpen made free.

Dogs .have been added.

to h·or\· or horn \yhich \yere 10 cents per gross/t other fo'Yls that come m free for breedmg and·20 per ce~t.

ba,"'e befall Illude 8 cents per purpose~.

Globes, geographical, topographi Buttons of papier Ical and astronomical, have been put on the ~r08S and 20 per cent.

,,·hich ,yel"e 25 ifree iist.


lUning machinery, it "'ill be re I"Huche and all other, H.e.s., per cent, are reduced to 20 per cent.

COlubs, I collected, \YHS put upon the free list tor ~-m per cent.. ~Ir.

EDG...-\.R.

tilizers, COllIpounded, \vhich bore 20 per cent, have been reduced.

t.o.

10 per cent, and ~1l1 not be made in this country.

uncoinp01Ultled fertilIZIng Illa tter free.

and can be iInpo11ed b~· :lll~· person aud I )Ir.

FOSTER.

That has been re-enncted luixed an.d cOlllllonnded by the.
faruler ~lhn- I ,Yitb annddition which will make it rend as self for IllS 0"'11 W3utS.

Gun, l1tle ~l11(.l pIStol I follo,,-s :- cnrtridges, car~~~dge-e:lses find .t~le like are I r~uced fl't~ln Nitro-glycerine.

dU:lhn~ bIast!ug.

gun~,vder and .other explOSIves, which 1J?re tUl'cd in Canada., speCIfic or speCIfic .Hul ad Y:tlorem dutIes, llay~ been placed in one sclled ule at 25 pel- I The object cent.

cent.

Tobacco pipes, eig':ll" autl cigarette- ment of new smelting furnaces.

the saIne as befor~.


holtlers, 35 p~r cent, Trunks find ,aUses, ao l)er cent.

tile same ns before.

by reading the ,vhole of the free lIst throu~h_ ores ~lS "ell.

as tbe mIlling of ores · include just ,,-hnt I will place that.

of course, upon the Table, nnd it ,,·ill be printed in due course.

There is understood under smelting machinery.

I I wish am not sufficiently versed in mining antI nre to smelting machinery to know just how far specially it will go.

but tlu.'

Cuntroller of CustOlU~ :Ul(!


I bale explnmed that pr~t~.. fully.

books, the Minister of Justice will take care that I Dlay say, that all aCl<}s, drugs, t"}enerally, dye stuffs-everything \\"hich is nec~s&1.r~· for it does not go too far.

Shoe buttons, papier tanning in the manufacturing process and ma~be; metal glo'·L~f.'8tt.'ners.

e~·('let.~.

hooks the like-have been taken from the dutiable and eyelets for boots and shoes, and hlCing Sugar, not above No.
16 list respect, pretty nearly all, the Dutch standard in colour, sugar drainlngs tanning and or pumplngs drained in transit, melado or elements that go into dyeing, In atltlition Iconcentrated' melado, the lilH\ h:1VP bet~ll Ill.Hle fret'.

and tank to the books made free are those prInted by sugar conCl-et(l. are also free.
'Vith reference nny goy'(.\rUJllent or a~sot~i:ltioll fOI· logs Hud round uUlumUlfactureli not specially enumerated or provided Dlotion of science and letters, and issued in timber for In this act; firewood, handle bolts, rail the course of tbe proceedlnecrs of such aS8o- the· road ties, ship timber and ship-planking not elation, to its members, and not purpose of &"lle or trade.

Also books,· not specially provided.


for in tWs act, and other being plint('(} or reprinted in Cuu:ulu, "l\"hieh woods as mentioned in the schedule, are are included in the curriculum of any unI- This is a special concession, nnd I versity or incorporated college in Oanada; hope will prove a useful one in Manitoba books specially imported for the bona fide and the North-west.

There was no one feature of our examination into the con use of .
Brass scrap and brass In sheets or dltlon of things in that part of the country, etc.

plates.

Brass in bars and bolts, druwn, platn which impressed.

itself so forcibly on my and fancy tubing, a~d other brasses, as will mind, as the combine which existed for.

the be seen by reference to the nst, are made distribution and sale of Everr town was parcelled out.

One or two men free.

which was dutiable heretofo~, .has been were selected, to whom was given the monu placed on the tree llst.
The prices Mr. FOSTER_ :\Ir.

I do not propose to troub!~ the House nlac~e~ as IS reql1l!

'~ for the ~ashmg of This will be a large poly of selling in each place.

just one or two· things tl1a t In the article of minerals, find placed on the free list.

In that books are free, incorporated mechanics' .

Inc u e. sue 'Vith reference lIr.

FOSTER.

if not all, 1· RA.SE~.

Institutes, to "'cuds.

the pro- bottoms "·11 '':1 lumber.

notice.

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h t t a It ,,-ill coke, .

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, free.


for I d ..... to h f 245 [~I.-\R.CH 27, 1894] 246 ' , I' if " .

k Id h The A.lueric:ul I , · bi - to f:lce "pith the fncts: .

e88entiall~" necess3r~· in the making of barns Il~~ exceeds our expectatIons or "ohether their prlvllege compared with former terms.

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::-:---:---::~:--=-----.-~ ~~--'- were fixed, and if they sold a fraction of a be short in rc¥enue for a year or t"oo us It is our duty~ cent under the fixed prices, was taken awa~" and given to somebody in making this reduction nnd incurring that else.

r.rhat monopoly bore heavily on the shortage, to keep the expenses of the coun people in that country, ""here lumber is so tr~· ,veIl ,vitbin our re,"en~1(~.
"°bether it sligh~~ It I ''''ish to stA'lte and houses, and I came to the conclusion does not fully c~nle up to thenl.

this one thi!lg in ad~i~ion : .Uter all tha t h:~s Jl()~~ihle Ilt:.

'll) should he gi ,"en b~" tlla t putting lumber upon the free list.

and that Iteen done In the UnIted.

State~, .after ~elr has been done.

But there is a codicil, which eiection, run upon the baSIS of tarItY reV'lSlon, will, I kno,v, plea8e my hon.

friends oppos- and aft~r the question hus.


been thorou¥hly fought out in the l-Iouse of Representntlve~, ite.

These articles are free but it is pro- there is a net result, if the "~ilson Bill is vided that :- carried as :It present.

of an average protec- If any countt·y shall iInposc R. duty upon the tion on dutinble ilnports of :lO·C16 per cent.
is :l. little o\'"er the a\'"erage upon the articles in this schedule enUlnel'atctl, or any of That tbo pr(~.. thein, when imported into such countr'y froni dutiable imports in Canada uU(ler representati\'"e8 Can'l.lla, it shall he la.wfni for the Go\perllor ill sent tariff, Council, frOlH titne to titne, hy proclama.tion pub- caIne fa(~(~ t hpir lished .in the Call(ula, (;a..:eftp, to c.leclare that the theories had to be put to the test of n prac follOWing export duties, or any.
of them, shall be tical solution and the lenders, in tile prepar ehar~eahle llpon logs exportctl Illto such country atioll of the' Bill, nnd in the House itscIr frolll Cllnada.

I ,,"ere obliged frankl~· to ac ·now e ge' tat Ithe~" could not make a free trade mensurc The articles enumerated are us follows :- find tllat the\"' bad to embod~" in the Bill the Pine, ])onglas ,til', ~~' hahmm, cCflar iuul hemlock ,'PrinCiPle of "protection.

That principle hns logs not exceeding.


~l per thousand feet board been embodi(.~ in it frolu the first.

Hut, In case ?t the export of any of th~ a.bove Iafter all the agitation that has taken place, lneasure, eillunerated logs 111 shorter l~ng~.hs ~ha.n ... feet, i their average ad ,alorem duty, calculated on t~len a. r~te pel' cord ~)ut.Y, be le\ led 111 the sanic the basis of their imports.
,,-ill be a little than our average ad ,·aloreln duty \\ay, equivalent to the aho\e, enumerated rate per higher ·ft Under the IO --ducD.d thousand feet, boar<l Dleasule.

And export t.lutv I tl nnc er le presen arl.

hI"· I ' , } III ' t u'V'en our ud ,"ulor.

0h' "h I h t IC pu lea· )C C lalgell e a.CCo~( lug y, a .er S}a. a\'"e JUS e 1 tum of such procIanmtlon: Pro,oltled that Ie.

,vIll be on the aver:l4.y e about 28 -, .

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• bovernol' Uelleralill Counellinay by proclamation published in lik~ InaUller 'Ybleh IS a large.

retluctl\:~n, an~ ' I ' much belo"'" that .of ~he U~lted States as It move and rein1pose such e~port fluty, IS carried as proposed.
"·000 pulp, mechunic:llly grotmd, and chelDi-1 I want to say, in conclusioll, just one lllore enl wood pulp, bleached or unbleached, are word \yith reference to tbe principle of reo 'Ve hnve been charged with not added to the free list.

hansted the patience of the House, and your Idealing ,vith the United States in a fair nnd patience, ~Ir.

Speaker.

the \Ve lfkno,V I this fact, tha~ the :lIcI":lnler Bill In 1893.

(tl~e 1 last ;rear of Its operation If the ne,v Bin ~s therefore "·ill.
C?nclude Ical·ried) chnrged nn ad ,yaloreul dut~' equI- this long series of remarks by gl\"lng the i "~llent to an a,·erage.

on the table of ilUllorts, the informn!i0n ,vWch I!

of 49% per cent, ,Yhile our L'lritI, as regurds hon.

gentlemap.

have at hand.

The toull reductIon of revenue: dutiable ilnports for hOllle consuluption, ,,"e.nt rf·sulting from the changes, taking as a basis ~ do"-n to nn :l\"er:lge of :-lO·2S per cent.

Ef'er the imports of lnst year, will be about $1,- .
~illee the:r ha"e hnd n protcctiV'e sl·stem their 500,000 or $1,600,000.

This takes into ac-: duties have beeu, on the uYerage, from 15 to count the additions to the revenue 'Yhich ,ve i:!O per cent higher t.lUlll ours, and, in some may fairly calculate upon, as in the case of cases, their dnties hn\'"e been donble ,,·hat Take cotton "\\l'arps and rice.

is ~·al'ns-their average dut~" in 1890 was ~ per cent ; in 1891 they ,,"ere 40 per c~ent ; I?

1802 they were 49 per cent; and In 1S9.3 .

~Ir.

FOSTER.
~Ir.

FOSTER.

That ~s the net loss.

tIley the Slt- ha\'"e had an even 50 per cent; on cotton IS a rather bold reduction to make, I have cloth from 46 to 48 per cent: knitted goods, .It present, but \L.«ttiOll being as every hope that ".fhe totnl in 1892, an :l¥ernge of 68 per CPllt.
the depression in the Ie- venue will be short lived, and that in a few cotton manufactures ha\'"e borne a duty of the country will 55 per cent, and so on through the whole months recover their buoyancy wi~h recovering bnsi- list.

It cannot be argued that, in the mat ter of arrangement of dUty we have not ness on' the other side of the line, in Great treated them fairly.

They have been able Britain, and, I hope, the world over.
How- to get over our wall, but it has been almost think that what ever that may turn out, I in nearly every line of we have to face, as a prudent people, ana impossible for us, to face cheerfully, Is the fact that we may manufactured goods, to get oyer the wall \Yhat I,,·hole line of the Cu~~,?ms t:ll~tI.. em <Itlh " ,.}

froln titne to titue re- per cent,.

Tll~t they were OO·2.~ per cent.

On carpets, is the totnl effect of this on the revenue?

Sir RICHARD CART'VRIGHT.


That Sir RICH...\RD C...-\RT'VRIGHT.

think I have ex- I ciprocit~.., ,,·ill be if the BIll the ra es " .

spirit.

We must the revenues of ours have been.

Mr. FOSTER.

tho net loss.

reciprocal ronslder . '

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, The Act, CIlRp~I":J3, Re\-j~d St.\tutes, jnt~,ttlled: they hal'e built around their country.

thank )·ou, ~Ir.

Speaker, and the members "All Act respecting the duties of Customs.'
of the House for the attention ,,"ith which vou havo listened to me.

• ~Ir.

D ..-\'\-TIES (p.E.I.)

t!eman allol'" me a questIon?

~e has men- t10netl Is grass seed in the same category: 50-51 '~ictoda.

Chapter 39, intituled: ".-\11 Act to aDIent!

the .

:\ct respecting theduti~s of Cust01ns.

,~ .. , ..~n .-\ct t?

the bono gen amend the Acts respectIng the duhe~ of Custonls.
53 ,rictoria, Chapter 21, intituletl: " All Act to I,; A~l Act til :~!nend the Acts r~spectillg th~ duties that garden seeds rema In as before.

alneutl the .A.ct of the IJresent session, intituletl : y .

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5:-J \~ictoria, Chapter ~O, intitule?

: 55·[lt) Victoria, Chal)ter 21, il1titulecl: ~Ir FOSTF~ Yes· It relnains; ns bef.)re.

of LUSt{)UIS.· .

54-55 'Victoria, Chapter 4... intituled: ".An Act I .. ,rr.

CEL\RL1'ON.

If the hon.


gentlcul:m I to iunclld the .lets respecting t.he ..luties of eus.

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,,"ill permit me I desire to ask a que&tioD.

I understand the hOll.

gentlelIDln,.

buar~~, I H Au Act deals, etc., are plncetl upon the free lIst, 'Ylth I further to aluelld the ..-\cts respecting the tlutie~ of a provision that IL1.tions that do not recipro- I Custolll~.

~, cate shall have an export duty placed upon I •.

An Act logs and some other articles.


A contln.~ency I further to iunend the Acts l'especting the ..lutie~ of nlal· nrise with regard to which r 'Yish to j!

CllstOJllM."

Inquire.

The AmeriC:ln Congress has now a tariff bill under consideration, which bill I!

following be suhstitute..l in lieu thereof:- places these articles upon the tree list.

Con- tll:!t bill DlUl· nvt he COlll-!

sidemtion of I.

That unless the context other·wise recluirc~- (a) Tlw initials U D.e.s.
~~ represent and Iw,,-e })leted and final action taken as early as I the meaniug of the words ., not elsewhere ~pe· Cb) The initials •.

J).ooP:~ ,-epresent awl ha,"e t~e nlea!l~~lg of th~ words ... not ()thc..wi~e pro· .\ud to pro\'ide otherwise by enacting that t hl" rlt) \?ictoria, Chapter 16, intituled: citie<l ~~ ; .. finM rension upon this bill.

Under the pro- ; just explained b~~ the I v;slons of the tariff ,,:e are I l~on.
gentleman, 3S I \md~rs~lnd it, liable to hal"'e export duties Imposed III interhn be~ween the time _this hill i~ paSSl.\(ll and the tIme the AmerIcan bill upon.

If that were the case, it ,,·ould have.

an irritating effect and might vel"" seriously I gallon: compromise our chances of getting free atl- lumber lnission for our States.

into the United I i 'V'ouId such a continO'ellcv arise?

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18 ... e the I Vlt.letl for .'

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'· I·eprc~ent a.n~~ ha\"t~~ the meauJllg of the words" free on boar,l : (d) The expression "gallon " Uleans an Ilnpcl'ii~1 (e) The c~l)J"essi?n" ton .. rne.U1S two thousand pounds ayolrdupols ; (l) The expression" proof'~or" proof ~pirits~~~ I when applied to wines or wine spirits of any kind, lueans spirits of a strength equu,l to that of pu.oe eth,yl alcohol COUlpouluietl with distilled wat~l· ill such proportions th~t the resultant Illixtur~ shall at a t~nl~~rat~~r~ of sl~ty d~gr~esFahrenl~~ltha~'c a SP~CI~C gra~ It) ~~ n 9198 ,as conlparetl \\ Ith that of chstllletl "atel .,..t ~~e sanl~~telJ)per~tur~.
(g) The expression gatlg~, when l"pphe,~ to rnetal sheets or plates or to Wire, lueans the thick· ness as determined by Stubbs' St<..ndnrtl Gauge: .
(h) The exp~ession" in diameter,;' ,,'he.n ~p- Illsule to tulnug, p!led (hanleter meaSUl'elnent ; Illeans (i) The ex})ression "sheet,'~ when applietl to 'Deaus a s}Jeet or plate not exceeding Inetals, three-sixteenths of an inch ill thickness: actual the (j) The expression h plate," when appliel1 to luetals, nleans a plate or sheet rnore than three· sixteenths of an inch in thickness ; ~Ir.

P ...:\.TERSOY (Brant).

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FOSTER.

~o; It IS not the IntentIon thnt any contingency of thnt kind shall arise.
I suppose the!

ilit~~ntion of the hone ~Iinister in the re~o_lo lutIons he has placed befor~ us is to rt~peal t the present prol"'isions of tariff enactments i I aDd to consolidate the law?

I Mr. FOSTER.

Yes.

Mr. PATERSO~ (Brant).

I As the hon'l ~Iinister proceeded I did not observe that he ad I referred to some articles which had I to lllJ m ,and he has f?rgotten to tell us ,,,hat rate ~e intends to Impose on unenu- merated artIcles.

occurr ind 7' • Mr. FOSTER.

The same as before, 20 per I I I .


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Mr. SOMERYILLE..

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That the expressions mentioned in section two 'Y0u1d ~Ike to ask of" The Customs Act," as alnenlled by section two the Finance Mlnister If it IS the mtentlon to of "The Cl1&toms Amendment Act, ]888," when allow.

stereot.rPe plates for .newspapers to ever they occur herein, or in any Act relating to come In free.

the Customs, unless the context otherwise re<luire'J, Mr. FOSTER.
There Is no change in that Iha"e t.he m~niDg assigned to thenl respecth-ely by respect; stereotypes for books come in free.

the saId sechons twO} and a!1Y power conferrecl self and the members of the House for the IAct· I have already, Mr. Speaker, thanked your- I uPOI!, the Governor _10 Coullcd by U T~e Cuslonls to transfer dut.lable goods to the bst of ~oods me.

The following are the resolutions:- Iabrogated or ImpaIred.

attention With which you have listened to which may he.
im~rte(l free of duty is not hereby 3.

That the w~ole or part of the duties hereh)' 1.

~esohred, That It IS expedient to re'·I8e and imposed upon fish and other products of the cODsoli~ate the Ac~ and parts of Acts now in for~e fisheries ma)~ be remitted as r-espects either the respectIng the duties of Customs, and that for thiS United States or the Islan..t of N~wfoundland, or purpose it is expedient to repeal.
the following Acts both, upon the proclamation of the Governor in Council, which Illay be issued whene\"er it appear~ or parts thereof not heretofore repealed, '9iz.

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