"And let us not forget that its very well documented that mutations in DNA do lead to new chemical structures which are part of the body of microbes . Any contention that new `` parts `` can not be based on genes is doomed to failure on a simple empirical basis . It is without question the case that the bacterial flagella parts are specified by genes AND that changing those genes changes the corresponding parts ."
"so what if flagella parts are effected by a change of genes ? .... so are fly wings . The challenge was to present me any evidence that mutations can actually create new raw material for selection . You have to get out of the swamp somehow . I think this concept of mutations as being creators has gotten a pass for too long now ."
"mutations in DNA do lead to new chemical structures the bacterial flagella parts are specified by genes changing those genes changes the corresponding parts ."
"so what are effected by a change of genes are fly wings . have to get out of the swamp"