"What you say about a nose is of course an aesthetic judgment and entirely subjective . But we are not talking about noses here ; it 's the idea of perfection we have in focus . Ideas are internal to the thinker and it is merely our judgment that relates to the external world . So we could have a perfect idea of a perfect being but still have faults in our judgement . Having an idea of perfection does not imply that the thinker is perfect in some way ."
"yes , and i suppose an idea of perfection can exist , in a thinker 's mind , and subjective to the thinker 's standards of perfection . i could also point out that an imperfect thinker , with no reference or standard of `` objective `` perfection , is incapable of having a perfect idea of anything . therefore the argument falls apart at the first premise , since an `` idea of perfection `` can not exist , unless the thinker himself is perfect , which would make him God by his own definition ."
"Ideas are internal to the thinker and it is merely our judgment that relates to the external world ."
"incapable of having a perfect idea of anything . therefore the argument falls apart"