"Again , you are the affirmative , you must support your claims . Please support the claim that we are using an atheist presupposition . I think we are using more an agnostic presupposition , which is a neutral one ."
"Neutral ? One of the main standards and reference points for science and evolution on the internet is talkorigins.org . It 's promoted as an educational site - a place with answers to criticisms of the evolutionary theory . It 's every bit as biased as AnswersinGenesis , yet in many cases it 's difficult for ID proponents to target . Part of the broad definition of evolution is microevolution , about the only segment of the broad term that is provable . They can masterfully employ that to make an ID proponent appear uninformed or irrational if he questions happenstance orignis , or other unproven evolutionary assumptions . They make their atheism clear in many ways however . They devote a page to comment about the `` International Flat Earth Society `` , pretending they believe it to be a legitimate site . Almost any rational adult can see that it 's phony . ( Wikopedia calls it a hoax ) There 's nothing neutral , or even agnostic , about that site , and it appears to represent the anti-ID-in-schools mindset to a T. If there 's actually a more neutral , agnostic , scientific website that opposes ID being taught in schools , I 'd like to see it ."
"are the affirmative , you must support your claims . Please support the claim that we are using an atheist presupposition ."
"Almost any rational adult can see that it 's phony . ( Wikopedia calls it a hoax ) There 's nothing neutral , or even agnostic , about that site , and it appears to represent the anti-ID-in-schools mindset to a T. If there 's actually a more neutral , agnostic , scientific website that opposes ID being taught in schools , I 'd like to see it"