"Especially since your first claim was pretty outrageous . Laws will exist whether religion does or not . Religion is similar to a book of laws although that does n't mean that it existed before the laws did . Trying to even say humans would n't exist without God should n't even be brought up . The Christian God that is described in the Bible might not even exist . The Bible is flawed at the very least meaning doubt has to be placed in anything written in it that is n't provable ."
"Again , a perspective problem . I do believe that man would not be here to govern without God , so our argument goes deeper into a realm where I would have to convince you that there is a God , or you would have to convince me that there is no God . I really do n't think we are going to get anywhere from this angle . Just too many differences in beliefs ."
"The Christian God that is described in the Bible might not even exist ."
"do believe that man would not be here to govern without God , so our argument goes deeper into a realm where I would have to convince you that there is a God"