"I described materialism embracing new forces and phenomena which have withstood the rigors of the scientific method ."
"* * You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue , but that wo n't make change the reality of the case . What materialism has done , under a long series of name changes , [ the last being 'naturalism ' , if I 'm not mistaken ] , has been to desperately rationalize the evidence of actual reality in the form of 'forces ' and other phenomena antithetical to its principles and assumptions by pretending that what it says is n't what it means . For example that its denial of all things immaterial and incorporeal and insubstantial does n't apply to forces , mass , energy , and so on . All very darwinian SOP ."
"I described materialism embracing new forces and phenomena which have withstood the rigors of the scientific method ."
"You can 'describe ' materialism in ways that are untrue , but that wo n't make change the reality of the case ."