"Ok , so you are admitting that the unborn fetus , is in fact , a child ? I have to believe that is what you mean from your statement above . That being the case , do you condone the killing of a child that is born but will likely live in poverty the rest of his or her life ? Do you condone the killing of a handicapped child that is born ? If not , then you ca n't condone abortion . Also , who gives you the right to decide what is best for a child by killing him or her ? That should not be your choice ( this is another problem with humanism , because there is no moral authority to stop people from doing whatever they want to do , hence the adage that humanism is a philosophy that has both feet planted firmly in mid-air ) . I am sure the child would n't agree to that choice if given a voice to do so ."
"Of course I believe an unborn fetus is simply an unborn child . The only difference is that the unborn has no means of survival without the mother and is not recognized as being a living person . I do n't wish that this child should be killed , but as I said before it can be for the best . And if you really do believe in heaven , then the child is going there anyways . Why would you wish a life of suffering on it instead of being able to skip all that and go straight to heaven ? This is the type of logic that works against those who believe in a soul since it really does n't make much sense to live on Earth when heaven is a million billion times better . Just to answer your question with a question , how do you know a child would choose life over death when it has never lived ? People commit suicide everyday but I 'm sure they would also choose life over death if they had been in a better situation . Perhaps this is being too extreme . A person would likely choose to live when faced with death , but whether it logically make sense is another question . People will try to live through starvation , sickness , and misery because it is what their mind tells them to do . Is it really best that they are alive ?"
"do you condone the killing of a child that is born of a handicapped child"
"it can be for the best . And if you really do believe in heaven , then the child is going there anyways"