"HOW OFTEN do you see people change their minds based on somebody fighting for `` gay rights `` ? I have seen it , but it 's only a handful of times . Out of HUNDREDS of people I 've talked to , it 's only a `` handful of times `` . Suppose Democrats do pick up the gay banner hard and heavy . Full gusto . What 's the effect ? I seriously expect minimal . This is going to be a battle over time . Gays got sodomy laws overturned , and the reaction was anti-gay marriage laws and amendments . The SIMPLEST thing , that should have been the most obvious to everyone , of sodomy laws overturned got a `` anti-gay marriage law/amendment `` reaction . These fights ARE BEING picked and chosen . ROFLMAO ! No . We fundamentally disagree there . How long have you been arguing the gay marriage issue . And you state that you SUPPORT equality on every issue with only the gay marriage hold-out , right ? If YOUR mind ca n't be changed in all that time , why do you think that we could win over the nation just by having Democrats come out hot and heavy . Furthermore , THINK about it . HOW LONG have we been pushing for ENDA ... And we just tried the vote , and it failed ... EVEN ON THE ISSUE THAT HAS OVERWHELMING MAJORITY SUPPORT , the anti-gays are able to stop the win . What do you think will happen on an issue we DO NOT have majority support on ?"
"Well , all I can say then is that no action is just about as bad as failed action , and IS as bad in terms of anything current . Either way you do n't have gay marriage . You have a majority in Congress right now , and you 're not demanding much change just because of fear of backlash ? Yeah , there would be backlash . Heck , the Civil War was the ultimate backlash , but that did n't stop abolitionists from demanding more than TOKEN change , and it 's a good thing they did . It 's your gig , though , so do what you want . I do n't see much point in laboring this discussion any more ; I 'm just pointing out my observations ."
"How long have you been arguing the gay marriage issue . And you state that you SUPPORT equality on every issue with only the gay marriage hold-out , right ? If YOUR mind ca n't be changed in all that time , why do you think that we could win over the nation just by having Democrats come out hot and heavy . Furthermore , THINK about it . HOW LONG have we been pushing for ENDA ... And we just tried the vote , and it failed ... EVEN ON THE ISSUE THAT HAS OVERWHELMING MAJORITY SUPPORT , the anti-gays are able to stop the win . What do you think will happen on an issue we DO NOT have majority support on ?"
"Either way you do n't have gay marriage . You have a majority in Congress right now , and you 're not demanding much change just because of fear of backlash ? Yeah , there would be backlash . Heck , the Civil War was the ultimate backlash , but that did n't stop abolitionists from demanding more than TOKEN change , and it 's a good thing they did . It 's your gig , though , so do what you want . I do n't see much point in laboring this discussion any more ; I 'm just pointing out my observations ."