"This fine upstanding pillar of the shooter community had a ccw permit ."
"So ? Last time I checked , MASS MURDER was against the law . Did n't care too much for following that one , did he ? This is like pointing out that the man who drove through a retirement community killing 3 elderly people and 2 grandchildren in a drunk driving accident was a liquor store owner . According to your logic , this would mean he was a drunk driver because he was a liquor store owner , therefore , all liquor store owners are drunk drivers . But according to my logic , instead of focusing on a mere `` feel good `` bit of information , I would look at the actual drunk driving records of liquor store owners . What if I found out that this was the only incident of a liquor store owner killing someone in the past 50 years ? Which is closer to the truth : Your assertion that liquor store owners are all dangerous because of this one incident , or mine that they are n't because of the actual facts ? The state of Virginia has no requirement for a CCW permit . CCW permits are available for request for those citizens who desire documentation in order to carry in other states . There have been over 225,000 permits issued in Virginia . This means : HOW MANY PEOPLE CARRY HAVING NOT REQUESTED A PERMIT ? ( We know at least 225,000 are carrying there because they have requested one ) ..... let 's be conservative and say that half of them have done so . This means that over 50 % of gun carriers enjoy paperwork . My guess would be less than half desire documentation , but hey , I 'm gon na be conservative . So , over 500,000 people carrying CCW in Virginia everyday and one of them goes nuts . This means that CCW holders account for less than 1/10th of 1 percent of shootings in Virginia . ( It looks like this - < .01 % ) What 's the murder rate for the general population in Virginia , Penfold ? By stating that this one shooter had a CCW , are you trying to point out to us that the crime rate for CCW holders in Virginia is 20 times better than the general population , or 50 times better ? Maybe you 're trying to point out that it 's 75 times better ? Even if it 's only 10 times better ...... .... it is still better ( in multiples ) than NON CCW holders ! WHAT DO YOU FAIL TO GRASP ABOUT CCW HOLDERS COMMITTING SUBSTANTIALLY FAR FEWER CRIMES THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD ? ( BTW : This is just CCW holders in Virginia . Now go through the entire nation ! ...... and you point out that one has committed a murder ! Wow ! That 's a real crime wave ! One out of millions and millions ! Whew ! Maybe if another CCW holder commits another murder in a few more years IT WILL BE A TREND ! )"
"This fine upstanding pillar of the shooter community had a ccw permit"
"So ? Last time I checked , MASS MURDER was against the law ."