"i think its finally settled that physical ( testable or tangible ) evidence of God can never be found . this is not only because of its elusive nature to science , but also because of religious requirements . from a scientic perspective , nothing ever occurs outside of the realm of phyical law . that is , physical laws are constant and unbreakable , and there is nothing new or unpredictable or inexplicable about them . because the laws of physics completely govern ever aspect of the universe , there is nothing left for a supernatural being to do , at least where the phsical realm is concerned . there is no supernatural phenomenon , and no occurance that natural physical laws do not affect from a religious perspective , knowledge of God can only come through faith . we already know that faith is certainty in the absence of rational evidence , in other word believing without evidence . Hebrews 11:6 says `` And without faith it is impossible to please him . For whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him. `` faith is the key to religion , and only through faith can religion be established . therefore , if some physical observation could verify God 's existence , then it would contradict what religion says about God . this is a real catch 22. you search for evidence to solidify your faith , but if evidence comes you dont need faith , and without faith you can not relate to God in all , as far as i 'm concrned , it is totally futile to seek rational proof of God 's existence . even if it was found , it wouldnt be found . i remember saying that it is possible to prove that God exists ; that is , in the event that God showed up and said `` hey , it 's Me ! '' . but even this can never happen , because such a scenario would contradict the bible , and thus not prove God exists as far as the bible is concerned . and when all is said and done , it still doesnt answer the question `` does God exist ? ``"
"But then it also does n't answer the question `` does anything exist `` , nor does it answer an infinite number of `` existence `` questions . Do `` trolls `` exist , follows the same reasoning . If you find one , they are no longer a fairy tale/imaginary creature , they are some organic life form that can be measured , tested , and quantified .. i.e . no longer an imaginary creature . So they can no more be found than god . So replace god/troll with an infinite number of other imaginary things and you 'll see why the question `` Does god exist ? '' , has no real importance in the physical universe . ( does the tooth fairy exist , does a unicorn exist , do flying pigs exist , etc . ) In fact , I like that statement . The existence of god is not imporant ... Rather - the FAITH in god ( s , etc . ) is what is `` important `` , and the thoughts most certainly exist in the physical world and have a measureable impact . I think that 's why I do n't mind so much `` religion `` per se , it 's the human condition that brings suffering , and uncertainty , into our lives and for some people , the feelings brought about by their faith seems to treat the condition . ( the human condition also brings joy , love , etc. , but I 'd like that without the pain personally ) I only mind it when things in the physical universe are `` attacked `` with the premise of belief in god ( s ) , which is a waste of human energy ... we have a limited time , do n't spend it using fallacy to undermine those who are actually trying to build on the foundation of human knowledge . And any belief in something without evidence scares me if it becomes a driving force behind decisions . ... she 's a witch because she MADE the crops die ... she must be burned . ... he broke `` god 's `` law and therefore must be guilty .. ... this is `` god 's `` war .. Yeah , that still scares me . That 's why I think , at least in the US , the seperation of church and state is so ridiculously important , and accepted . While there are fundamentalists that rail against it ... it 's hopefully obvious that with ~80 % of the US believing in an imaginary `` god `` , but also having a separation of church and state and the most generally advanced scienctific community in the world , then the two can obviously co-exist , and I 'd go so far as to say thrive as long as the line is drawn and not crossed . I learned something in responding , thanks for the spark . -Mach"
"i think its finally settled that physical ( testable or tangible ) evidence of God can never be found ."
"But then it also does n't answer the question `` does anything exist `` , nor does it answer an infinite number of `` existence `` questions ."